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Yesterday my 6515 stopped cooperate with me! Totally!
- I didn't dropped him or physically damaged,
- The battery was charged in 85% just before it was switched off itself
- Back cover closed with no gaps between cover and body
- Was fully functional when suddenly switched off
- I didn't upgraded anythihng before.
Symptoms:
- Ipaq is not reacting on start button
- Not reacting on reset
- Not reacting on hard reset
- The left diode blinking red during charging via usb cradle when I’m pressing power up button
- The same happens with regular charger
- During charging with regular charger when I’m opening the back panel the diode stop blink and become flash continuously in red.
I have already tried almost everything to start it up:
Changed the battery,
Open, close the back battery panel
With and without SD card
Appreciate any HELP!
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Ok I have made some progress..
Now I can see the bootloader screen and that's it.
What to do next ???
Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
cluurk said:
Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
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Thanks for reply
Indeed! When I opened back cover the led become flash continuously!
I have tried to apply the rom update from HP unfortunately all of the updates have to be done through Active sync!
It is impossible in current situation because of pressing Power+Joystick+Reset the ootloader screen appear but then nothing This is happens only when PDA is charging with regular charger. Using USB charge or battery power I can't even start the bootloader screen.
From where can I download the SD bootable image or how to make it?
And again small step ahead:
Hi
And again small step ahead:
In craddle there is another input for power so I managed to power it up and connect.
I had to switch of firewall (otherwise i have error 601 - unable to connect the device or something simmillar) and reinstall Active sync back to 3.8
Got bootloader screen USB and hp logo and v 021
by running romupdate utility downloaded from hp site ( whatever the version is ) I finally recognized my model version: it is 6515c
Next
Found valid version from HP site for 6515c ( i think 1.21) and successfully upgraded. No breaks, no other issues just successfully uploadede into finish.
Then hard reset and......
The system starts, screen flashes up, system start loading and the screen fading out. ... and again ..... and again ...... and again and the nothing!
I have tried again to pull out back cover, remove batery, put it back after some time, place back the cover and again.
Nothin' Nada Null %$#@%!$#ing piece of junk.
BTW it is happening only where PDA it is connected to AC power. On battery system is not booting, no booloader nothing!
Any suggestions? Pleeeeeeeease!
After you upgraded the firmware and it started up, was this done with the pda on AC or battery power? If its on battery and it starts fading, your battery is probably screwed. Did you also know there are 2 batteries in the IPaq?
Oh and if its a battery problem, you will need to leave the battery+pda connected to the AC for a while before it can startup and probably into booloader. Run your firmware upgrade again and power it on with the AC connected! If it boots up fine, then monitor the battery status bars in the Power settings and see if both the LiIon and NiMh batteries are holding charge. Hopefully from here you can find a dead battery.
Another thing you could try is to reset the battery when in bootloader mode once you are certain its the battery
http://blogs.unbolt.net/index.php/brinley/2006/08/02/howto_reset_discharged_battery_for_ipaq_6515
Battery reset? Could might be the issue?
Hi
I really appreciate your response.
The whole upgrade and the other stuff have been done with inserted battery and AC connected.
I plugged the PDA into the cradle which was connected to PC via USB and I plugged also AC into the cradle AC input.
It is fading just after reboot only when the iPAQ is connected to AC power (of course battery is inserted otherwise it will not startup anyway.)
On pure battery power it doesn’t giving any signs of living whatever button has been pressed.
The link you provided might contain very valuable directions to me. The man is learning within whole life and dying still being stupid.
I thought that I read the info from the site you suggested but I probably missed the meaning of the post regarding battery reset. That might be this. I will check and update you very soon.
I did the steps from above link. The iPAQ rebooted, started to load the os and again faded out….
Question to everybody:
During bootloader screen appear should I have any diode flashing blinking or whatever
I’m asking because of mine is blind!
Nothing is flashing, blinking, beaming or shining. Just two, completely dead diodes.
Hi, I've just found out what flashing red means
"green blinking means GSM coverage, yellow blinking - missed reminder or alarm clock signal, permanent yellow - recharging, green - the battery is full, red blinking means greatly discharged battery, pale blue blinking - Bluetooth is on"
I think one of your batteries is dead, and if you have already replaced to LiIon battery then you'll probably have to try to replace the NiMh one inside. I cant think of anything else to try
Battery????
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
If I recall correctly, the charging led does not light up in bootloader mode. I maybe wrong though. I think you should try to check the voltage in the LiIon battery to determine if they are being charged.
Also you never mentioned checking the backup NiMh battery. I believe that the NiMh battery is required to power up of the ipaq as well so it may be the cause of your ipaq dying after starting up.
NiMh backup battery
Fortunately I know someone who can charge the battery for me. There will be no problem with that.
From the other side I'm worry about the phone charging....
Why I can't charge the battery using iPAQ?
Next you mentioned about "NiMh battery". I'm sorry for my ignorance but what is that?
Is it secondary battery ?????
Is there any way to charge or replace it? Is it pluggable battery? Where is located?
Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
cluurk said:
Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
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You don't need to touch that one, this battery is designed for save your data when you exchange the main battery.
commanddos said:
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
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Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
watchsat said:
Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
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Well Well Well ..... it is getting wormer. Many thanks to everyone who are still trying to help me out. Thanks again.
Is that mean the secondary battery is located under the keyboard? I saw the photos from unassembled 6515 and it looks like the secondary battery. To replace it you have to first remove 3 screws, unplug the LCD and remove whole main board.
Is that means that the charging circuit has been built in the keyboard plate?
Thank You all. Patient died......
I would like to thank everyone for help. I think we can close this thread over here.
My beetle just went out into the "digital heaven".
The HP support specialist ensured me (without any tips or hints from my side) that mainly there is a problem with passing the power from the charger to the battery which means no more no less like ".... dude your motherboard is screwed. You have to get the new one or whatever...!"
So now it is a time for selling the rest of the parts on auctions......
R.I.P (Rust In Peace)
if the red light blinks
1 your battery has problem
or
2 your battery cover has problem. The plastic part on the back of your battery cover may have broken which touchs the microswith on the mainboard.
if that microswitch is not triggered , the hw65xx,hw69xx will not turn on.
I got this phone 2 months ago brand new from ebay.
It had mostly working fine until today.
Battery was around 25%, so I plugged it in for charging. The charging connection kept disconnecting and reconnecting every second. I thought it could be a loose cable, but I checked everything. Eventually it connected, but the phone wasn't charging. I opened the settings and checked under battery, it said something like "connected, but not charging". I tried changing the charger, used 2 different charges but same result.
At this point it was clear the phone wasn't charging no matter what. I checked the USB port for dust, etc and also reset the phone. I also noticed the phone become very very laggy, not registering touch etc. Restarting the phone temporarily fixed lag and touch issues, but the problems came back quickly.
I also connected it to PC, but nothing happened.
Finally the battery has drained, and the phone has been plugged in for a few hours now, but still no charge. It's dead.
What could be the issue? Any suggestions? Seems like a hardware failure?
It's a 2 month old phone and I could be out $300+.
First time I bought a Xiaomi phone, this is a very scary and disappointing experience. I didn't drop the phone, no damage. As I said the phone was 100% fine before.
i just experiencing this issue exactly a week ago, at that point my battery were 7% down to 5% while trying "the fail" and when i plug the charge it says "plugged in, can't charge right now" but after 3 hours or so charging in while the phone was on, it bounce back to 7% and still displaying that message.
after trying to charge while the phone was off for more than 12 hours with no results, i gave up and place silica gel around the charging port for approx. 3 hours or so. and then i do this step.
i don't know what the pin point of the causing factor is and i don't know what step is unnecessary but this is what i do. i place silica gel around the port incase the port detecting moisture and preventing charge from happening, after 3 hour i try charging again using 18w quick charge brick while the phone is fastboot and turning it on. just like that the battery was charging.
after my battery were full i update the software to pie incase this is because of the software update (just like pixel 2 did), give this tutorial video a try*https://youtu.be/F9XNIbpC1yA some ppl able to do it in the first try, some 3x, some 6x, me? i finally achieve that on my 11x. just give it a shot and patience, no need root, ubl, etc etc
the fail. i tried using my friend charger (we have same phone) didn't work. tried using computer usb didn't work. tried using that quick charger brick without that silica gel part, didn't work. tried charging when the phone is off (i waited more than 12+hours) still didn't work.
based on that my conclusion were either there is moisture in the port and the sensor detect it and prevent the battery from charging up or the V9.6.17.0.ODIMIFE november update causing this problem.
again, this is what i do
-place/cover the charging port with silica gel
-wait approx. 3hour or more
-put the phone in fastboot mode
-charge the phone with 18w fast charger while in fastboot mode
-try to turn on the phone
the only post about this issue other than this was some guy in moto x4 thread on reddit, i don't know why there is so little info about this issue.
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Seems like a hardware failure? idk, i'm still able to transfer data and listen to music through the dongle while this problem happening, so i assume it was software thing
It's a 2 month old phone and I could be out $300+.
First time I bought a Xiaomi phone, this is a very scary and disappointing experience. I didn't drop the phone, no damage. As I said the phone was 100% fine before.
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same...
please post an update so there's more information available regarding this problem and good luck
dimasaqiel said:
i just experiencing this issue exactly a week ago, at that point my battery were 7% down to 5% while trying "the fail" and when i plug the charge it says "plugged in, can't charge right now" but after 3 hours or so charging in while the phone was on, it bounce back to 7% and still displaying that message.
after trying to charge while the phone was off for more than 12 hours with no results, i gave up and place silica gel around the charging port for approx. 3 hours or so. and then i do this step.
i don't know what the pin point of the causing factor is and i don't know what step is unnecessary but this is what i do. i place silica gel around the port incase the port detecting moisture and preventing charge from happening, after 3 hour i try charging again using 18w quick charge brick while the phone is fastboot and turning it on. just like that the battery was charging.
after my battery were full i update the software to pie incase this is because of the software update (just like pixel 2 did), give this tutorial video a try*https://youtu.be/F9XNIbpC1yA some ppl able to do it in the first try, some 3x, some 6x, me? i finally achieve that on my 11x. just give it a shot and patience, no need root, ubl, etc etc
the fail. i tried using my friend charger (we have same phone) didn't work. tried using computer usb didn't work. tried using that quick charger brick without that silica gel part, didn't work. tried charging when the phone is off (i waited more than 12+hours) still didn't work.
based on that my conclusion were either there is moisture in the port and the sensor detect it and prevent the battery from charging up or the V9.6.17.0.ODIMIFE november update causing this problem.
again, this is what i do
-place/cover the charging port with silica gel
-wait approx. 3hour or more
-put the phone in fastboot mode
-charge the phone with 18w fast charger while in fastboot mode
-try to turn on the phone
the only post about this issue other than this was some guy in moto x4 thread on reddit, i don't know why there is so little info about this issue.
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Seems like a hardware failure? idk, i'm still able to transfer data and listen to music through the dongle while this problem happening, so i assume it was software thing
same...
please post an update so there's more information available regarding this problem and good luck
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Thanks for the response. I don't have silica gel but I placed the phone in rice for a few hours and then tried charging, it still won't work.
I can't get into fastboot either because the battery has drained completely by now.
Might have to take it to a mobile repair shop?
Might have to take it to a mobile repair shop?
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seems like that's the best idea and the only option left, goodluck
dimasaqiel said:
seems like that's the best idea and the only option left, goodluck
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can you post the link to the reddit thread where you found information about a similar issue with the Moto x4?
thanks.
can you post the link to the reddit thread where you found information about a similar issue with the Moto x4?
thanks.
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here, https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX4/comments/8xpm5s/plugged_in_cant_charge_right_now/
spoiler alert, that guy got his replacement phone while we (i assume you too) didn't even have access to official xiaomi service center ?
oh god, i just had it again, second time 10days later after the first one, on the latest pie update.
i'm legit scared ?, pray for my phones ?
but thanks god, the "plug in the charger while the phone on fastboot mode and turning it on"
still works, just like last time. even without the 18w fast charger.
I have the same problem. Battery drain could be the fingerpint sensor issue. The thing is the battery got really depleted and now, it seems the charger program/circuitry is consuming more power than it can charge. I tried several chargers, several usb-c cables, but nothing. Some hours ago the notification light blinked for some seconds and then it appeared as if it was indeed charging, it even showed the charging battery image ( the one without %, the one that appears when you have a really low battery charge ). But it has been hours trying and it doesn't do that anymore and there seems to be no way of making it charge and boot.
This is an appalling situation.
Similar problem, I purchase a Xiaomi Mi A2 by ebay, and passing 30 days (warranty expired) phone dead and never came to turn on, just flashing a white led, but nothing else, somebody has experimenting this problem and steps to revive the phone:crying:
same ****, guys.
I've tried several cables, couple of hard resets and etc. But now I have a pretty brick
I don't know if related but I had similar behavior after I dropped my a2 in the WC, after drying and figuring what prevented it to power on I discovered the USB plug at it's logic board internal connector as the parts preventing it to turn on, some cleaning an drying and my phone comeback.
Then today I observed it didn't charge, and the body warmed, It showed 50% charge, I rebooted and then it didn't turn on again, since I was doing some workout I figured the usb again got wet, I opened cleaned , dried assembly again and then it turned on w/o issue, but then the battery was showing 90% charge not 50% as before rebooting.
Maybe this your situation guys, it you think your phone somehow got wet, and you have no way to claim warranty (or too far from service center) try cleaning and drying the internal USB port connections. (Doit at your own risk).
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A2 using XDA Labs
My beloved Moto Z died in the same manner. I dropped it to the WC and finally died a few hours later. I'm happy now wirh my A2 but i miss the AMOLED screen [emoji24]
AcostaJA said:
I don't know if related but I had similar behavior after I dropped my a2 in the WC, after drying and figuring what prevented it to power on I discovered the USB plug at it's logic board internal connector as the parts preventing it to turn on, some cleaning an drying and my phone comeback.
Then today I observed it didn't charge, and the body warmed, It showed 50% charge, I rebooted and then it didn't turn on again, since I was doing some workout I figured the usb again got wet, I opened cleaned , dried assembly again and then it turned on w/o issue, but then the battery was showing 90% charge not 50% as before rebooting.
Maybe this your situation guys, it you think your phone somehow got wet, and you have no way to claim warranty (or too far from service center) try cleaning and drying the internal USB port connections. (Doit at your own risk).
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A2 using XDA Labs
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I just had the same issue. The phone just randomly cant charge anymore and when I plugged it the battery charge indicator just keep going on and off but without charging. I tried to reset the phone in factory mode but no result, I tried with differents cables but no result. When the phone was plugged it was very very laggy but as soon as I unplugged it everything was coming back to normal.
Now I have run out of battery and my hopes to get my phone back to life are pretty low considering what I read on this topic. If anyone has a solution please tell us!
I would add that I always took care of my Xiaomi Mi A2 (no fall, no water spilled on it, no overheating) and everything was going well until a few hours ago. I didn't installed any new app since like a week ago (from the PlayStore) and I updated to 8.1 maybe a month ago. I thought waiting so long for Android Pie was annoying but this is way worse. If the situation doesn't evolve I will never buy a Xiaomi phone again. Very disappointed
Mi A2 stopped charging
After 2 month of use and Android pie update this stupid device refuses charging. I'm so very disappointed. I can't believe i fell to this Chinese trap. This is the last time I'm purchasing a Xiaomi phone! "Android One phone".... Yeah right!
Gabizone said:
After 2 month of use and Android pie update this stupid device refuses charging. I'm so very disappointed. I can't believe i fell to this Chinese trap. This is the last time I'm purchasing a Xiaomi phone! "Android One phone".... Yeah right!
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In my case, after 4 months of use, just after Android pie update, I have stumbled on my MI A2 lite showing problems with USB connection and charging. The phone is not able to stablish a stable connection to the charger or the computer, it just keeps connecting and reconecting, begin charging and stopping charging.... If I leave the phone charging all night, it seems to finally fully charge. I can't figure how this problem may be related to Android Pie update, so I think it is just coincidence, and the usb connector is faulty, though I don't know the cause.... I think I will try to have it replaced
so did you fix the problem OP? i just started expiriencing what i think is the same problem.
ledman3 said:
so did you fix the problem OP? i just started expiriencing what i think is the same problem.
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if you go to the battery setting and it's says "plugged in, can't charge right now" then you should try plug in the charger while the phone on fastboot mode and turning it on
(read my previous comment) i experience this issue 2times and it's been running smoothly ever after
dimasaqiel said:
i just experiencing this issue exactly a week ago, at that point my battery were 7% down to 5% while trying "the fail" and when i plug the charge it says "plugged in, can't charge right now" but after 3 hours or so charging in while the phone was on, it bounce back to 7% and still displaying that message.
after trying to charge while the phone was off for more than 12 hours with no results, i gave up and place silica gel around the charging port for approx. 3 hours or so. and then i do this step.
i don't know what the pin point of the causing factor is and i don't know what step is unnecessary but this is what i do. i place silica gel around the port incase the port detecting moisture and preventing charge from happening, after 3 hour i try charging again using 18w quick charge brick while the phone is fastboot and turning it on. just like that the battery was charging.
after my battery were full i update the software to pie incase this is because of the software update (just like pixel 2 did), give this tutorial video a try*https://youtu.be/F9XNIbpC1yA some ppl able to do it in the first try, some 3x, some 6x, me? i finally achieve that on my 11x. just give it a shot and patience, no need root, ubl, etc etc
the fail. i tried using my friend charger (we have same phone) didn't work. tried using computer usb didn't work. tried using that quick charger brick without that silica gel part, didn't work. tried charging when the phone is off (i waited more than 12+hours) still didn't work.
based on that my conclusion were either there is moisture in the port and the sensor detect it and prevent the battery from charging up or the V9.6.17.0.ODIMIFE november update causing this problem.
again, this is what i do
-place/cover the charging port with silica gel
-wait approx. 3hour or more
-put the phone in fastboot mode
-charge the phone with 18w fast charger while in fastboot mode
-try to turn on the phone
the only post about this issue other than this was some guy in moto x4 thread on reddit, i don't know why there is so little info about this issue.
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Seems like a hardware failure? idk, i'm still able to transfer data and listen to music through the dongle while this problem happening, so i assume it was software thing
same...
please post an update so there's more information available regarding this problem and good luck
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Hello,
I have something similar, I'm in Switzerland and running the Pie Rom from Nederland. I don't think it's link to Pie, maybe from a security patch because it didn't come at the same time for me, but this is what I got:
-When I plug my phone to a fast charger, I get "charging for a few second, then not charging"
-If I plug my fast charger and reboot the phone, the phone will charge (I need to double check but I guess slowly)
-I have a Audio-Adapter (USB-C, 3.5mm, USB Type C), so if plug the charger to this Adapter, and them plug the phone, the phone is charging fine (slowly).
So to me it looks like an issue with the fast charging...
Max
ledman3 said:
so did you fix the problem OP? i just started expiriencing what i think is the same problem.
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No I was not able to fix it. I am talking with my credit card coverage and see what they can do.
I got a different phone in the meantime.
I also got rid of all my other Xiaomi products, never going to give this company a cent in the future. They are cheap for a reason !! Limited support and shady parts used in their devices. They can't be using quality internal components with such cheap prices.
Their mibox also randomly die.
Quantity over quality seems to be their mantra
Guys, it happened to me too,
I've flashed from android one Pie rom, to pixel experience.
Pixel Experience is great rom, was working brilliant for couple of days.
Then it stopped to charge. Now phone has discharged to 0% and I can't do anything.
My assumption is that getting new battery in exchange might help me fix the issue.
I've read that once you move to Pixel Experience Pie version form Android One 9.0 you need to flash kernel to. I did not do that.
Now waiting for the battery to arrive and will see what I can do with it.
Hello, I took a photo yesterday and during the second photo, the mobile phone suddenly turned off. So I thought the battery ran out, so I put it on the charger. However, the mobile phone cannot be charged and is in the bootloop with this battery logo, see. video I can't turn it on, I can't get into fasboot or TWRP. I had a custom room EvolutionX there, which I have had there for about a year, and everything worked until then. I didn't make any changes. Could someone please advise? Thank you
same problem on my mi 9 t pro since few weeks, i think it is a not working charging port, i change him in next week and post result
OloWons said:
same problem on my mi 9 t pro since few weeks, i think it is a not working charging port, i change him in next week and post result
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I found out there is an unfinished port inside the phone battery
I buing same batery and.
sorry for not answering
i opened phone and disconected charging panel
then i installed new one but it look like have some missing components like smd resistors or capacitors
it not work
then i installed old panel and it work since now so i might have connection problem inside phone