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With all this hate around OnePlus 5 (jelly-gate (mine has none altough jelly-boys say I am scrolling it wrong ->here's my video -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdmDZm-8K8E&t=1s), wifi drops, faked benchmarks, iphone clone, no ois..) I wanted to post my own thoughts and findings regarding OnePlus 5 and why I find it currently to be best phone for the money. I have been a “phone-whore”* ever since Galaxy S6 and I have finally found the one I like the most, taking into account that every phone, OS has its flaws and there’s no perfect phone.
I certainly qualify as a phone whore since in last 3-4 years I’ve had 8 different phones – Nexus 6P, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S6, Xiaomi Mi5, Iphone 7 plus, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, Galaxy S8 (2-3 week testing period, therefore I don’t count it as part of “8”) and now OnePlus 5. Here's the list of things I find to be the most crucial for me when deciding on a new phone/ or whether I should stay on the one I have -> 1. Fluid performance, which includes bloatware free OS with actually useful features like Gestures, which the OOS has), 2. Lightweight with screen size of ~5.5", 3. DT2W, 4. Dedicated Capacitive buttons (back and recents), 5. Above avg battery life, 6. Support.
So here are my main takeaways considering its price and place in the market:
1. Cheapest Snapdragon 835 equipped phone in the market;
2. Decent camera which has its flaws but is still very capable of taking awesome shots;
3. Equipped with probably lightest android based OS – OOS, which is full of neat features such as DT2W, DT2S, gestures, button customizations and so on;
4. Great support with timely updates – I haven’t had a android phone which is updated almost as fast as google based phones (Pixel, Nexus);
5. Dash charging is best in the market;
6. Great fluid performance throughout with no lag;
7. Very comfortable for 5.5" phone (only flaw that its super-slippery!) and although the back cover is copy-pasted iPhone 7 plus, I find it much more comfortable to hold and operate in one hand. iPhone 7 plus is a bulky as hell and impossible to operate in one hand even if you have MKBHD type of hands;
8. Lightest 5.5 inch phone in the market at just 153gramms <- this one is actually very crucial for me, since I wear a suit 5/7 days a week and larger phones like iPhone 7 plus, because of its bulk and weight, changes the complexion of the suit jacket and how it sits on you, so to say .. it might sound funny, but its true With OP5 I don’t feel like I am carrying ½ ipad in my jackets pocket;
9. Great battery life for 5.5” screen (~5-6hours of SOT on stock kernel in mixed usage (whatsapp, youtube, chrome, Spotify, bt and sync always ON and location ON with waze), mainly because they are sticking to 1080p, which is more than enough for such screen size.
10. True Premium feel - its a rare feature. I would say that of all phone I have had only few that actually had premium feel - problably all iphones, xperia z3 and none of the galaxies which all feel plastic to me.
With all that said, in my honest opinion, I find OP5 to be the best phone to spend 499 EUR – 559 EUR on, but it ain't perfect.
Agreed with most of it, but not sure of 'smooth' performance. While it seems smooth in almost all tasks, turning on GPU profiling from Developer options do show lots of frame drops all over. Check my other thread on this issue.
The Xiaomi Mi6 is probably the cheapest Snapdragon 835 phone on the market. For the rest I agree with you
1. Cheapest Snapdragon 835 equipped phone in the market; Mi 6 for example say hi, aside others but with offers.
6. Great fluid performance throughout with no lag:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/frame-drops-hell-t3631942
Good to see that, at least, there are some happy customers .
John Woot said:
1. Cheapest Snapdragon 835 equipped phone in the market; Mi 6 for example say hi, aside others but with offers.
6. Great fluid performance throughout with no lag:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/frame-drops-hell-t3631942
Good to see that, at least, there are some happy customers .
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For me, its the cheapest sd 835 based phone, since I cant get mi6 for the retail price because of local VAT being added when imported into LV + custom tax is being applied. Cant comment on the gpu/frame drop issue..
Addded one more point that I find crucial..
10. True Premium feel - its a rare feature. I would say that of all phones I have had only few actually had premium feel - problably all iphones (especially before No 6), xperia z3, 6P and none of the galaxies which all feel plastic to me.
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For me, its the cheapest sd 835 based phone, since I cant get mi6 for the retail price because of local VAT being added when imported into LV + custom tax is being applied. Cant comment on the gpu/frame drop issue..
Addded one more takeaway that I find crucial..
10. True Premium feel - its a rare feature. I would say that of all phones I have had only few actually had premium feel - problably all iphones (especially before No 6), xperia z3, 6P and none of the galaxies which all feel plastic to me.
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Hi, if you are from Latvia you can find stock of Mi 6 in Europe without customs, the VAT being inside Europe doesn't matter. Look at https://www.kimovil.com Search for Mi 6, 418 € 64 Gb, 487 € 128 Gb continental stock. For example the unlocked S8 dual sim now cost 570 € in Europe continental stock in global central, etc.
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Hi, if you are from Latvia you can find stock of Mi 6 in Europe without customs, the VAT being inside Europe doesn't matter. Look at https://www.kimovil.com Search for Mi 6, 418 € 64 Gb, 487 € 128 Gb continental stock. For example the unlocked S8 dual sim now cost 570 € in Europe continental stock in global central, etc.
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To be honest I am ever going to buy xiaomi phone. When I bought mi5 (with all taxes and shipping I paid about 500eur for it) I was quitte dissapointed when I actually got it - i felt a bit cheated since the build quality was one of the worse I have expierienced (maybe the ceramic one was better) - very plastic and easy to get scratches all over the place. Actually I thought this would be my last true china phone, but oneplus 3 made me a believer again - i was stunned actually that a phone (op3) so cheap felt so premium in hand build quality wise and OP5 continues in the same direction and although its super-slippery I have decided to use it without a case just because I love how it feels in hand and I dont want to hide this beast in a case. IMO, they shaved, if i can say so, OP3T design and made it rounder/slimmer although in mm the difference is not that huge.
And so what if its an iphone clone..iphone is in a league of its own in respect of design and if someone like OP takes their design and improves on it (takes away the bulk, the weight and makes it (5.5" size phone) very usable in one hand) I say take my money my chinese brothaaas
The oneplus 5 is my 24th or 25th phone in the past 3 years and I have to agree with the OP on this one. All things considered bang for buck. It doesn't get any better on this side of the pond. ?
Only thing i didn't like is that I can't use any 3d party camera app to take raw pictures as they all comes back with a pink tint.
Other then this, I'm pretty happy with the phone.
what i was feeling to share about 1+5 is beautifully shared by you my friend...i purchased first one plus mobile just waiting for dual camera launch by one plus earlier i was fan of Mi product whatever launched in INDIA but recently they decided for mid and lower price launch in indian market so i said bye to them but still i am fan of MIUI interface....
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The oneplus 5 is my 24th or 25th phone in the past 3 years and I have to agree with the OP on this one. All things considered bang for buck. It doesn't get any better on this side of the pond. ?
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really? how is that possible?!
and I though I was the ultimate-phone-whore chaning switching to a different phone every 3 months..OP3T was the first one to pass 6month trial
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really? how is that possible?!
and I though I was the ultimate-phone-whore chaning switching to a different phone every 3 months..OP3T was the first one to pass 6month trial
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Lol. I usually have 2 phones simultaneously and I have a phew repeats. The s7 edge (thanks to the note 7) the pixel and pixel xl, the iPhone 6s/plus, 7 /+, the note 5 {32gb/64gb) the note 7 while we're at it. My iron man is my 2nd s7 edge for four months and my minute man is the LG G6 which lasted two days. Coming up next are the essential, the note 8,the iPhone 8 and the Pixel 2. Yeah man I'm a phone junky for real. ?
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Lol. I usually have 2 phones simultaneously and I have a phew repeats. The s7 edge (thanks to the note 7) the pixel and pixel xl, the iPhone 6s/plus, 7 /+, the note 5 {32gb/64gb) the note 7 while we're at it. My iron man is my 2nd s7 edge for four months and my minute man is the LG G6 which lasted two days. Coming up next are the essential, the note 8,the iPhone 8 and the Pixel 2. Yeah man I'm a phone junky for real.
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Same here. I am always eager to test out new phones, so if I stick with something its gotta be close to perfect and it started with OP3T (the "max 3 month and the get a newever one" spell was broken . :laugh. I don't think I'll ever go back to an iphone though unless its something uber-revolutionary, since no matter what they do I find iOS to be very limiting and only good on iPads where all you do is watch movies and browse mail/internet. I need those dedicated capacitive buttons for recents and back, I need that freedom with customisation, attachments, transfers and so on, and that one button thing no matter the overall somewhat smooth operation seems like a slowed down expierence no matter how used to it I eventually get. I quite easily ditched my iPhone 7 plus because of its weight and bulk..
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Same here. I am always eager to test out new phones, so if I stick with something its gotta be close to perfect and it started with OP3T (the "max 3 month and the get a newever one" spell was broken . :laugh. I don't think I'll ever go back to an iphone though unless its something uber-revolutionary, since no matter what they do I find iOS to be very limiting and only good on iPads where all you do is watch movies and browse mail/internet. I need those dedicated capacitive buttons for recents and back, I need that freedom with customisation, attachments, transfers and so on, and that one button thing no matter the overall somewhat smooth operation seems like a slowed down expierence no matter how used to it I eventually get. I quite easily ditched my iPhone 7 plus because of its weight and bulk..
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You're preaching to the quire brother. My longest stint with the iPhone since I left iOS and my iPhone 4 behind, was 10 days with the iPhone 7 plus and shortest was 2 days with the iPhone 7, the LG G6 beat it out by like half a day. Lol. I just buy whatever is new and premium regardless of iOS and Android. I don't particularly like iOS but I'm not one to talk out the side of my mouth so I have to be able to tell the fan boys/girls at work why their iPhone sucks ??
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To stay on topic though, I love the one plus. It made me notice the subtle lag in my s8 plus as I go back and forth. Oneplus 5 is my week phone paired with my Huawei watch and I rock my s8+ and gear s3 on the weekend. When I take more pictures. Which is just about the only thing that the s8 has got on the OP5.
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Same here. I am always eager to test out new phones, so if I stick with something its gotta be close to perfect and it started with OP3T (the "max 3 month and the get a newever one" spell was broken . :laugh. I don't think I'll ever go back to an iphone though unless its something uber-revolutionary, since no matter what they do I find iOS to be very limiting and only good on iPads where all you do is watch movies and browse mail/internet. I need those dedicated capacitive buttons for recents and back, I need that freedom with customisation, attachments, transfers and so on, and that one button thing no matter the overall somewhat smooth operation seems like a slowed down expierence no matter how used to it I eventually get. I quite easily ditched my iPhone 7 plus because of its weight and bulk..
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I think you guys are rich :laugh:..how do you manager buying phones every 3 months? Do you sell them on Swappa after 3 months?
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I think you guys are rich :laugh:..how do you manager buying phones every 3 months? Do you sell them on Swappa after 3 months?
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You keep your phone pristine, and you save some money & so when your sell your phone & your 200 saved and your upgrading. You can save 200 in 6 months right?
Ok, so after a couple of weeks of using OP5 not much has changed. I stand by the points I have made and have grown accustomed using this phone even without a case. I simply like its design and premium feel too much for it to be cased although my back-ordered Karbon protective case came 1 week after I got the phone. I will cope with the consequences if it do falls, but as I said already – IMO, the copy paste design (back) is made so awesomely (thinner and lighter) that it simply must be displayed around Although sometimes camera shots need to be retaken to get that perfect shot, I find portrait mode to be at better state than it was on my iPhone 7 plus at the launch. There's room to improve but I already like what I get out of the camera a lot.
My OP5 has been running great on FreedomOS 1.X [7.1.1][OOS][[STABLE][SAFETYNET ✓] with default kernel (avg. SOT 6h-8h more hours is in those sessions where there’s a lot of youtube playback..usage pattern -> chrome, whatsapp, gmail, bt audio (spotify through bt to bt headphones), waze with Sync, BT Always ON and Location only when using Waze)). I find FreedomOS to be the best custom rom as it’s the closest to stock, but then again it (1) allows you debloat as much as you wish, (2) it has built in Viper4Arise and (3) AdAway. Must have for me is also [v4.1] Ozone - A substratum module for OOS for center clock and other neat visual details.
I purchased a OnePlus 5 on swappa. Almost didn't because of what some were saying about it. Glad I did. But still have a Galaxy S8. Have to sell one, but can't decide which one. The op5 has better Bluetooth, WiFi, and cellular, signal. But I work outside, and the S8 gets brighter, and has water resistant. Didn't expect the decision to be so hard. There are things that I really like about both. Maybe list them both, and see which sells 1st. ?
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Ok, so after a couple of weeks of using OP5 not much has changed. I stand by the points I have made and have grown accustomed using this phone even without a case. I simply like its design and premium feel too much for it to be cased although my back-ordered Karbon protective case came 1 week after I got the phone. I will cope with the consequences if it do falls, but as I said already – IMO, the copy paste design (back) is made so awesomely (thinner and lighter) that it simply must be displayed around Although sometimes camera shots need to be retaken to get that perfect shot, I find portrait mode to be at better state than it was on my iPhone 7 plus at the launch. There's room to improve but I already like what I get out of the camera a lot.
My OP5 has been running great on FreedomOS 1.X [7.1.1][OOS][[STABLE][SAFETYNET ✓] with default kernel (avg. SOT 6h-8h more hours is in those sessions where there’s a lot of youtube playback..usage pattern -> chrome, whatsapp, gmail, bt audio (spotify through bt to bt headphones), waze with Sync, BT Always ON and Location only when using Waze)). I find FreedomOS to be the best custom rom as it’s the closest to stock, but then again it (1) allows you debloat as much as you wish, (2) it has built in Viper4Arise and (3) AdAway. Must have for me is also [v4.1] Ozone - A substratum module for OOS for center clock and other neat visual details.
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Not to degrade Freedom OS in anyway...but you may want to try xXx also..wonderful ROM and Dev just like Freedom OS
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taking into account that every phone, OS has its flaws and there’s no perfect phone
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Complex devices with multiple feature sets (phone, camera, computer, GPS, physical, low cost, etc.) necessarily have inherent compromises. Add to that the diverse set of needs and priorities from a potentially massive customer base. The result is a product that can't possibly be perfect for all users and all uses, no matter the price point. I'm quite happy with the choices, tradeoffs and compromises that OnePlus made.
About the only feature I miss on the OP5 is the rubbery back surface on the Nexus 5 that it's replacing. The OP5's back, while it may look nice, is almost as slippery as an eel. If I believed in conspiracy theories I'd speculate that they did it intentionally to maximize the number of new OP5 phones they can sell to replace dropped ones
So need to replace my razer phone and not sure what to get. I like the fact that oneplus 6 is faster and already on pie but also like the spen. Can anyone who has either come from oneplus 6 or have both phones please comment especially on performance differences between the 2 please thanks.
If you want speed stay on op6... If you want other stuff.. get the note 9
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If you want speed stay on op6... If you want other stuff.. get the note 9
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Generally true. But if you reduce the animation speeds on N9 the percieved difference on normal tasks is much less.
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marvi0 said:
So need to replace my razer phone and not sure what to get. I like the fact that oneplus 6 is faster and already on pie but also like the spen. Can anyone who has either come from oneplus 6 or have both phones please comment especially on performance differences between the 2 please thanks.
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Any particular reason you want to move away from the RazerPhone or, not upgrade to the RazerPhone2?
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Generally true. But if you reduce the animation speeds on N9 the percieved difference on normal tasks is much less.
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You could do the same on your OP6 which makes te difference the same again...
@marvi0:
I switched from an OP6 and haven't regretted it since. Yes, the OP6 is absolutely awesome and the UI is quite a lot faster than the Note 9(exynos) running Samsung Experience.
But the Note 9 still is impressively fast and of course full of features. It's a 'no concession' phone packed with everything you can think of, hard- and softwarewise. It's the feature packed OS and top quality hardware that do it for me. The speakers are awesome in contrast to the OP6's tinny speaker and the battery lasts all day everyday. Also the camera's are among the best the market has to offer, it takes stunning pictures.
But in terms of speed and stability it just can't compete with the OnePlus 6 running Oxygen OS. That thing is just insanely fast(especially unlocking it with fingerprint or face) and quite stable actually. When you're in an app there's no detectable difference, but any action that involves Oxygen OS just happens instantly. So if that's your thing and you don't care about (sometimes gimmicky) features too much, I'd stick with the OP6.
Also you should not expect the same 'power to the users' attitude from Samsung. They do listen to the community, but kind of do it on their own terms and only when they feel like it.
I have both, the note is international version, seriously day to day use I feel no real difference but differently the op6 is snappier. And oneplus is the newer phone in my hand, I just loved the red color and got it as a second phone BUT, U get what u pay for in this case, note 9 has a much better screen, longer battery life, huge difference in speakers and noeird software issues (for example I can't download pubg from the play store on my op6) plus of course the Samsung extras ip68 spen dex bla bla bla
If u need an advice go for the note, it's selling as the same price as op6t on eBay which is just crazy stupid since the OP suppose to be half the price
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You could do the same on your OP6 which makes te difference the same again...
@marvi0:
I switched from an OP6 and haven't regretted it since. Yes, the OP6 is absolutely awesome and the UI is quite a lot faster than the Note 9(exynos) running Samsung Experience.
But the Note 9 still is impressively fast and of course full of features. It's a 'no concession' phone packed with everything you can think of, hard- and softwarewise. It's the feature packed OS and top quality hardware that do it for me. The speakers are awesome in contrast to the OP6's tinny speaker and the battery lasts all day everyday. Also the camera's are among the best the market has to offer, it takes stunning pictures.
But in terms of speed and stability it just can't compete with the OnePlus 6 running Oxygen OS. That thing is just insanely fast(especially unlocking it with fingerprint or face) and quite stable actually. When you're in an app there's no detectable difference, but any action that involves Oxygen OS just happens instantly. So if that's your thing and you don't care about (sometimes gimmicky) features too much, I'd stick with the OP6.
Also you should not expect the same 'power to the users' attitude from Samsung. They do listen to the community, but kind of do it on their own terms and only when they feel like it.
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Hmm many thanks for your detailed reply. The note 9 you moved to is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?. I will be getting the 6gb variant and just like you I feel the extra features on Samsung do help overall,without even mentioning the ? spen. I think am definitely leaning towards a note 9 thanks.
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I have both, the note is international version, seriously day to day use I feel no real difference but differently the op6 is snappier. And oneplus is the newer phone in my hand, I just loved the red color and got it as a second phone BUT, U get what u pay for in this case, note 9 has a much better screen, longer battery life, huge difference in speakers and noeird software issues (for example I can't download pubg from the play store on my op6) plus of course the Samsung extras ip68 spen dex bla bla bla
If u need an advice go for the note, it's selling as the same price as op6t on eBay which is just crazy stupid since the OP suppose to be half the price
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Hi thanks. The note 9 you have is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?
I have both OP6(8,128) and Note 9(6,128).
For me, I use Note 9 to watch videos, becsuse it has a wonderful screen and powerful speakers.
I use OP6 to browse news, play games and communicate with others.IT IS SUPER FAST AND SMOOTH.
btw, I bring Note 9 to work. It is a nice tool,while OP6 is more likely a toy.
Get the Samsung note 9 it's almost as fast as the one us 6 or 6t lacked with more features
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Hmm many thanks for your detailed reply. The note 9 you moved to is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?. I will be getting the 6gb variant and just like you I feel the extra features on Samsung do help overall,without even mentioning the ? spen. I think am definitely leaning towards a note 9 thanks.
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I moved from the 128/8GB OP6 to the 512/8GB Note 9. I do feel like the extra 2GB is a bit useless though. I rarely fill more than 6 GB's of RAM.
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Hi thanks. The note 9 you have is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?
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6gb my friend.
As said, note 9 is a great multifunctional tool, op6 it's a wonderful toy
I bought One plus 6 256 GB Storage 8 GB ram and using it 2 months then switch to Note 9 Exynos 6GB.
What I don't like
1. USB port sucks. only able to charge and transfer data. Can't connect with external devices.
2. If you root you get Widevine L3
3. Battery level sucks. almost not survive 1 day.
4. Only one speaker.
6. no wireless charge.
What I love.
1. It's extremely fast.
2. It's brick free. you can unbrick it by yourself.
3. Android Pie Stable ROM come very fast.
4. lack of bloatware.
5. Even you root your device. warranty won't void.
6. Dash charge is extremely fast.
7. OxygenOS is clean and stable.
The reason I change to Note 9 because mine was defect unit and I got a refund.
Mine was Widevine L3 no matter how I or Remote support guys were trying to fix it. It need to be sent to service center to fix it and it has none in Thailand.
If I can choose again I will choose one plus 6 and keep my extra money for something else.
Phew so based on you lovely guys views the note 9 has all the bells and whistles but it lacks the power and speed of the oneplus 6. That worries me though as speed does matter.
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Phew so based on you lovely guys views the note 9 has all the bells and whistles but it lacks the power and speed of the oneplus 6. That worries me though as speed does matter.
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I have both the OP6T & Note 9.
The performance is comparable,any speed difference is negligible in daily use (unless you spend your days doing side-by-side comparisons,LOL).
If I had to choose,it's no contest,the Note 9 for the win.
If you value the S-Pen & Dex,the Note 9.
If not,save some $$$ & get the OnePlus,even going back to last year's OP5 or 5T.
I'm not picky on cameras,as long as the phone is quick to snap a relatively clear/sharp pic,it's all good to me.
If cameras are your thing,perhaps some Googling/YouTube search is in order for comparison.
Coming from someone who had the 6t and switched to the note 9 (paid $50 for restocking fee) I think the note 9 is a much better device. Hardware is better the battery is better, display is better and all those extra features are just the icing on the cake. Trust me.
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Phew so based on you lovely guys views the note 9 has all the bells and whistles but it lacks the power and speed of the oneplus 6. That worries me though as speed does matter.
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The Note 9 does not lack speed. It's like the comparison between a BMW M5 and a Ferrari. The BMW does not lack speed at all, but the Ferrari remains quite a bit faster. The BMW however does do/have a ton of other practical things that a Ferrari can't.
And like I said, you'll only notice the difference in speed in UI actions and not when running apps. In terms of power the two devices are basically capable of doing the same thing because of their SOC's. However, you might want to go for a Note 9 if you're a gamer or use some heavy apps as it has liquid cooling. My OP6 did warm up quite a bit when running CAD apps or games like Asphalt 9, the Note 9 stays noticeably cooler.
Having owned both phones it's hard to say because both are really good phones and you can't go wrong with either or.
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just received an update with 1 november security update, battery so far is way better on standby (exynos version here) which was my main complain about this beast.
i disagree that both can do the same things, no other phone can do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ox9XzePkk
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just received an update with 1 november security update, battery so far is way better on standby (exynos version here) which was my main complain about this beast.
i disagree that both can do the same things, no other phone can do this:
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Very true, no other phone handles multitasking as well as Samsung flagships and especially the Note series! What I meant with capability of doing the same things was the performance of the SOC's.
I have had every iPhone since the 3g, except the 7 and XS max.
I’m finally over it.
I am considering either a Oneplus 7 pro or the Note 10, depending if the note lives up to its hype.
I do a lot of productivity stuff on my phone.
Anyone have a suggestion? I really enjoy the look and feel of oxygenOS, but I’m wondering if s pen could be helpful enough to help me get things done.
S4boost said:
I have had every iPhone since the 3g, except the 7 and XS max.
I’m finally over it.
I am considering either a Oneplus 7 pro or the Note 10, depending if the note lives up to its hype.
I do a lot of productivity stuff on my phone.
Anyone have a suggestion? I really enjoy the look and feel of oxygenOS, but I’m wondering if s pen could be helpful enough to help me get things done.
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Hello there. So I have made the jump from iOS to Android a few times, and come back to iOS, so I have plenty of experience to share. Last Android phone was the Note 9. If I were you I would go Note 9 or Note 10, no reason to get a OnePlus other than budget. And with the eventual deals on all android phones, you would probably regret getting a OnePlus later. The Stylus, to me anyway, is THE main reason I had a hard time going back to iPhone. I really miss that stylus and would not consider any other android phone but the Note. I used it a lot when typing texts, emails, etc. Super fast with google or swipe keyboards. I tried the DeX feature a few times, and it worked quite well, but I did not rely on it, but could see its value. The Samsung software has gotten much better over the years. I found it quite fast and fluid, and especially liked the Samsung Browser (as it is the only full featured browser that you could use an ad-blocker with) on Android. This was important to me as I read a lot of articles on my iPhone and Note, and on iPhone Safari its easy with apps like Purify. Can't block ads with Chrome and the other browsers just seemed too basic compared to Samsung's. Another thing about the Note versus other Androids is Samsung Pay. Used it quite a lot due to fact it supports old credit card terminals as well as the NFC stuff. Anyway good luck let me know if I can help with anything. Cheers!
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Hello there. So I have made the jump from iOS to Android a few times, and come back to iOS, so I have plenty of experience to share. Last Android phone was the Note 9. If I were you I would go Note 9 or Note 10, no reason to get a OnePlus other than budget. And with the eventual deals on all android phones, you would probably regret getting a OnePlus later. The Stylus, to me anyway, is THE main reason I had a hard time going back to iPhone. I really miss that stylus and would not consider any other android phone but the Note. I used it a lot when typing texts, emails, etc. Super fast with google or swipe keyboards. I tried the DeX feature a few times, and it worked quite well, but I did not rely on it, but could see its value. The Samsung software has gotten much better over the years. I found it quite fast and fluid, and especially liked the Samsung Browser (as it is the only full featured browser that you could use an ad-blocker with) on Android. This was important to me as I read a lot of articles on my iPhone and Note, and on iPhone Safari its easy with apps like Purify. Can't block ads with Chrome and the other browsers just seemed too basic compared to Samsung's. Another thing about the Note versus other Androids is Samsung Pay. Used it quite a lot due to fact it supports old credit card terminals as well as the NFC stuff. Anyway good luck let me know if I can help with anything. Cheers!
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Thanks for responding! The big thing for me with the oneplus is the snappiness and the UI. I really appreciatre this incite. My biggest concern about the Galaxy phones is the value seems to drop like a rock. My almost 2 year old iphone x 64gb is listed for 600 and I think Ill get 550 for it.
The OnePlus 7 Pro is a excellent device with a lot of development on XDA!
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If I were you, I'd choose Oneplus. Screen resolution and camera are higher there
I'm sure this topic will stir up a lot. I've mostly been an Android user. Reasons I preferred it was to root them for ad blockers. Since I've been using my S21 Ultra, I haven't rooted it. I use DNS66 to block ads, and it's worked just fine.
I'm considering switching to an iPhone, since my entire family uses them.
I'm just looking for any pros and cons about switching.
Lol, might as well.
Both Android (scoped storage, forced encryption) and Samsung Flagships (no SD card slot, no 3.5mm jack with huge price tags) seem to think they are Apple.
I for one however do not welcome our new Apple overlords
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I'm sure this topic will stir up a lot. I've mostly been an Android user. Reasons I preferred it was to root them for ad blockers. Since I've been using my S22 Ultra, I haven't rooted it. I use DNS66 to block ads, and it's worked just fine.
I'm considering switching to an iPhone, since my entire family uses them.
I'm just looking for any pros and cons about switching.
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How did you manage to get S22 Ultra?
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How did you manage to get S22 Ultra?
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Sorry... Fixed.
I think I'll change to iPhone 14 Pro max when it comes out given the S22 Ultra is really a note
I switched for a bit but every time there is something that annoys me to the point that I end up coming back. Consistant phones that are good for basic stuff, but once you try to do anything they don't "allow" is it frustrating.
For the first time since the Samsung S7 Edge, when i switched away from my iPhone 6S+ i am seriously looking back at Apple.
Android 12 on my Exynos S21U has ruined it -- the battery life is way worse, the OS feels laggy and buggy -- having to reboot more often and some apps just plain drive me insane as despite doing a factory restore when i got the S21 in the first place they just don't work as they should.
Samsung OneUI is still too bloaty and their insistance of having Google app clones is ridiculous and i think would be better to abandon.
I just don't see a viable Android alternative anymore - MIUI12 is a buggy mess on Xioami. The whole OnePlus Android 12 upgrade debacle has been nightmare and my wife's 9Pro is average at best for taking pics.
Sony is lovely hardware but Android doesn't like their aspect ratio and i had several apps on my 1II that just wouldn't go close to full screen
Will want the Exynos 2200 to be at least everybit as good as a 8Gen1 if not better in which case i might continue my upgrade programme --- but if it's not then i'll probably look closely at iPhone 14 when it arrives
Over the past year I went from a 1+ 7 Pro, to an 11Pro Max, to Pixel 5, to an iPhone 12 Pro Max, to a Pixel 6 Pro, and now to the S21 Ultra.
The Ultra is the first phone that Sparks joy in a long time.
I am the type to change phones often and find myself switching between Android and iPhone.
iPhone is nice if you have family and friends that use it and you're a US user. Their pretty stable and the integration withing the OS makes most day to day tasks seamless.
But over time I'd get bored with them and switch back to Android because I missed the customization (which can be done with iPhones now to an extent) and apps like YouTube Vanced.
Everyones use case is different but I always appreciate the freedom of Android. Sometimes a factory reset and undoing all your tweaks can give it a fresh feel again.
Won't judge you either way because truthfully it's hard to go wrong with both options.
If you already have the accessories and ecosystem IOS a home run.
But personally I won't be switching for a while. The S21 Ultra even in stock form has so many granular tweaks and it's so snappy I can't see a reason to switch.
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Over the past year I went from a 1+ 7 Pro, to an 11Pro Max, to Pixel 5, to an iPhone 12 Pro Max, to a Pixel 6 Pro, and now to the S21 Ultra.
The Ultra is the first phone that Sparks joy in a long time.
I am the type to change phones often and find myself switching between Android and iPhone.
iPhone is nice if you have family and friends that use it and you're a US user. Their pretty stable and the integration withing the OS makes most day to day tasks seamless.
But over time I'd get bored with them and switch back to Android because I missed the customization (which can be done with iPhones now to an extent) and apps like YouTube Vanced.
Everyones use case is different but I always appreciate the freedom of Android. Sometimes a factory reset and undoing all your tweaks can give it a fresh feel again.
Won't judge you either way because truthfully it's hard to go wrong with both options.
If you already have the accessories and ecosystem IOS a home run.
But personally I won't be switching for
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I couldn't agree more with this and that is exactly how I feel. This is the first phone in a long time that ticks all the boxes for my usage case and that I am entirely happy with. I can't see myself switching anytime soon, which is not something I've really felt for ages now. This phone is perfect for me.
I'll switch to an iPhone in 2023.
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Over the past year I went from a 1+ 7 Pro, to an 11Pro Max, to Pixel 5, to an iPhone 12 Pro Max, to a Pixel 6 Pro, and now to the S21 Ultra.
The Ultra is the first phone that Sparks joy in a long time.
I am the type to change phones often and find myself switching between Android and iPhone.
iPhone is nice if you have family and friends that use it and you're a US user. Their pretty stable and the integration withing the OS makes most day to day tasks seamless.
But over time I'd get bored with them and switch back to Android because I missed the customization (which can be done with iPhones now to an extent) and apps like YouTube Vanced.
Everyones use case is different but I always appreciate the freedom of Android. Sometimes a factory reset and undoing all your tweaks can give it a fresh feel again.
Won't judge you either way because truthfully it's hard to go wrong with both options.
If you already have the accessories and ecosystem IOS a home run.
But personally I won't be switching for a while. The S21 Ultra even in stock form has so many granular tweaks and it's so snappy I can't see a reason to switch.
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Excellent reply.
While I don't have this level of experience with modern devices, I can say the s21 Ultra sparks joy too and has moved into a reliable partnership with me.
My whole family and 75% of my friends are on iphone. I hate iphones. Every time I have to help one of them with their phones I feel like I have to temporarily lower my intelligence to work it. I have to dumb myself down. And maybe there are more tweak options with them now, but I haven't spent the time to find them. I know this is an old argument, but I will never settle for the one button thing.
I make the time to tweak, hack, turbocharge, and sometimes burn & butcher every piece of hardware I own - from cars to computers to vintage receivers to vacuums. I love pushing hardware to the max and optimizing performance. Sticking someone like with this OCD obsession to an iphone is like putting them in a straightjacket.
Now that I can take comparable pictures I won't be having a pang of envy until I see something new & worthwhile from them. Oh yeah, and I hate the company as well.
I've tried both iPhones and Macs, and I couldn't conceive the notion of being stuck with something so walled off from what I can get from another option. You can praise all the merits and advantages of Apple software and hardware, but at the end of the day it's all about what you're willing to forego.
There is something very limiting with iPhones. I have an iPhone 11 as my other daily driver and I've always preferred using my S21U. The amount of ads on iPhone is so much, I get frustrated. I don't feel like I get as much ads on Samsung or Android for that matter.
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I'm sure this topic will stir up a lot. I've mostly been an Android user. Reasons I preferred it was to root them for ad blockers. Since I've been using my S21 Ultra, I haven't rooted it. I use DNS66 to block ads, and it's worked just fine.
I'm considering switching to an iPhone, since my entire family uses them.
I'm just looking for any pros and cons about switching.
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If you haven't ever used an iPhone. i would recommend asking someone you may know that has maybe an extra one to test drive it. Pop in your sim and get ready to be disappointed . Android isn't perfect but when it's compared to an iPhone. It's like night and day.
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Excellent reply.
While I don't have this level of experience with modern devices, I can say the s21 Ultra sparks joy too and has moved into a reliable partnership with me.
My whole family and 75% of my friends are on iphone. I hate iphones. Every time I have to help one of them with their phones I feel like I have to temporarily lower my intelligence to work it. I have to dumb myself down. And maybe there are more tweak options with them now, but I haven't spent the time to find them. I know this is an old argument, but I will never settle for the one button thing.
I make the time to tweak, hack, turbocharge, and sometimes burn & butcher every piece of hardware I own - from cars to computers to vintage receivers to vacuums. I love pushing hardware to the max and optimizing performance. Sticking someone like with this OCD obsession to an iphone is like putting them in a straightjacket.
Now that I can take comparable pictures I won't be having a pang of envy until I see something new & worthwhile from them. Oh yeah, and I hate the company as well.
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That was so well articulated. I had a similar experience when I went from my Samsung Note 3 to the iPhone 6S. I was sick and tired of TouchWiz and just wanted to escape to iOS.
At first everything was nice, probably because I also got a MacBook Pro along with the phone. The device and software integration was a pleasant surprise. I actually liked the experience for about a year - it was a simple, uncomplicated life.
But over time I started to realise how limited I was in terms of what I was "allowed" to do on "my" device. Hated the absence of a proper file system on my phone. iTunes was a pain to use and I had to do mental gymnastics to accomplish the most basic tasks we take for granted on Android devices. After a year, I started absolutely detesting the way Apple did things. I couldn't understand how a company could push a software update that could result in the phone refusing to accept a 3rd party lightning charging cable that had been working perfectly for 6 months. The phone refused to even bloody CHARGE itself, forget file transfer! Unsupported accessory, it said! I remember I was driving somewhere interstate, in unfamiliar territory, and phone battery was low. I absolutely needed the navigation and connectivity, and i still remember the horror that the freaking phone wanted another cable just to accept charge. This happened right after a software update which apparently updated the MFI codebase for manufacturers participating in the program. Allegedly my cable manufacturer did not pay apple licensing fee - so no charging for me. Not for safety or performance reasons, just because apple could do stuff like that via software. Many such experiences over the next year made me realise I don't like this 'overlord' approach to devices, where the manufacturer still owns your device even after you pay full price for it.
I jumped to the OnePlus 6 the day it was available and realised how bad iOS had suffocated me intellectually over the past 2 years. And I also realised that my anger was over TouchWiz, not Android itself. For the first time in 2 years I could do everything on a phone that I could on a PC. That also made me realise how bad MacOS was if you wanted to tinker outside of apple made software and their approved usage. Over time, I just full time bootcamped to Windows 10 on the Mac and haven't even seen MacOS in 2 years. No doubt the hardware is top notch though -I still have the MacBook Pro running well after 7 years.
But an iPhone is not just an iPhone. It's a portal into apple's way of doing things. If you are okay with it, it's great. But if the word 'tinkerer' even remotely describes you, it's a bad choice.
At least that's my experience - YMMV.
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I'm sure this topic will stir up a lot. I've mostly been an Android user. Reasons I preferred it was to root them for ad blockers. Since I've been using my S21 Ultra, I haven't rooted it. I use DNS66 to block ads, and it's worked just fine.
I'm considering switching to an iPhone, since my entire family uses them.
I'm just looking for any pros and cons about switching.
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u own a s21 ultra and want to shift? F
No.
iPhone is janky, stiff, and makes it difficult to do basic things. The only thing that it has going for it is good hardware, (good screens, great cameras, and best speakers) but garbage software can spoil just about anything. Also, iOS doesn't even support fundamental protocols like RCS.
I feel like apple thinks I'm a baby that needs to be micromanaged in every way. When you see the lengths people are going to in order to have custom icons (shortcuts for every single app), or to add empty spaces on their homescreens, it is obvious even their own users want some basic customization and freedom.
Yes, goodbye.
Had the pixel 7 for 4 days now and not that impressed with it
Actually thinking about going back to my OnePlus 7 Pro
The charging is poor on it and generally scrolling on webpages menu etc its no better than my oneplus
Dont know maybe I will persevere with it and it will get better
Got the pixel 7 on a killer deal with 5g coming from 4g with EE - I literally got the phone for free but not feeling it
Anyone else not buying into the hype?
So I've had the phone for the better part of a month and my takeaway from owning the device is that whilst is not the best or does it have any killer features that stand out above any other phone I've used. It does everything that it does really very well
The auto brightness is basically perfect.
The camera is reliable, it's not the best. The video is a bit lacking, but everything else about it is very good.
Is probably not the fastest at navigating between apps and multitasking but when I use the device it's reliably smooth in operation.
The battery isn't as good as my previous device, Poco F3, however, it gets me through the day and it's reliable in battery drain.
Notifications work unlike MIUI
Signal is much better compared to my 7T Pro
I can use speaker phone in my car and the other side can hear me clearly, couldn't do this on the 7T or F3
The screen is accurate and well balanced
I could go on
The phone doesn't have anything amazing that will make you want to go out and buy it or talk about how amazing it is, but once you just use it day in day out as the tool phones are now, it becomes the best phone I've used as a package.
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So I've had the phone for the better part of a month and my takeaway from owning the device is that whilst is not the best or does it have any killer features that stand out above any other phone I've used. It does everything that it does really very well
The auto brightness is basically perfect.
The camera is reliable, it's not the best. The video is a bit lacking, but everything else about it is very good.
Is probably not the fastest at navigating between apps and multitasking but when I use the device it's reliably smooth in operation.
The battery isn't as good as my previous device, Poco F3, however, it gets me through the day and it's reliable in battery drain.
Notifications work unlike MIUI
Signal is much better compared to my 7T Pro
I can use speaker phone in my car and the other side can hear me clearly, couldn't do this on the 7T or F3
The screen is accurate and well balanced
I could go on
The phone doesn't have anything amazing that will make you want to go out and buy it or talk about how amazing it is, but once you just use it day in day out as the tool phones are now, it becomes the best phone I've used as a package.
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Thing is my oneplus is a better phone than the pixel
I am not trying to downplay the pixel its just for a new phone/upgrade its not what I thought it would be
If it works for you great and I genuinely mean that
Going to give it a few more days but I can honestly see myself switching back I miss the fluidity and charging speed of my oneplus
I only got the P7 because the carrier I'm with would only give me a better deal if I got a new phone. It's been nearly 3 months and still haven't used it other than to take pictures and see how it runs lol. It's a quirky thing.
I do have plans for it down the road, once it's rooted with a custom ROM, but won't be using it as a primary device. 128 GB without an SD card slot was what killed it for me. I know most phones don't have the slot these days, but with specs similar enough to my S10 with 512 GB and the card slot, I've just stuck with using that. I know the P7 has a better battery and charges faster, but the extra storage is more important for what I need. Not bad as a back-up device though.
I have a pixel 7 after almost 3 years with the OnePlus 7pro and I was the same... OxigenOS have a lot more stuff than pixel except for the exclusive stuff. I was missing my OnePlus a lot and hold this P7 for a month or more... After that I went back to the OnePlus and noticed the quality of the phone. OnePlus felt so cheap in my hand and idk, it was not the same. So yes I understand your feeling about OP7pro it was a hell of a phone but , I think pixel 7 is just more premium feeling and a "mature OS" nut fun but mature.
Oneplus have a great deal on the 11 at the moment I can get £180.00 trade in on the 7 pro plus - free buds plus if I link my device and a 5% student beans I have got the price down £400 very tempting
I went from the OnePlus 6t to the pixel 6 and I kinda felt the same way. I knew it was a better phone in theory with higher specs and all, but the 6t had a better screen to me and seemed faster in charging and smoothness at first. However, the camera on the pixel was waaaay better and I was happy with that trade off. Fast forward a year and I got a good trade in deal from the pixel 6 to the 7 and it is a way better screen than my 6. Not much else other than slightly lighter in the hand with better weight distribution (6 was top heavy). It is a much better overall experience though and I love a couple of features I've only found on pixels like the ability to copy text from your recent apps slider, amazing speech to text, and I will say the scrolling speed/smoothness has gotten way better with time. I think the software needs a bit of time to smooth out.
I came from the OP8. I did like the phone, but got really tired of the hit or mostly miss camera. I know there are better camera phones than the P7, but I'm not buying a phone I can't root plus I really like the smaller size. The OP11, IDK, like another said, my P7 does everything I want and does it really well. Also there's the whole Chinese and Spyware thing.
I get what everyone is saying!! I came from a Pixel 3XL. The 7 didn't blow me away, but works very efficiently. At least I can unlock my bootloader now.
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That depends on if you use your phone as a phone, once you get used to not receiving spam calls and having call screening there is no going back.
Also the speech recognition is faster and more accurate than any device on the market.
Thing is phone's have been fast enough for years and you won't notice a huge difference between modern devices.
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Had the pixel 7 for 4 days now and not that impressed with it
Actually thinking about going back to my OnePlus 7 Pro
The charging is poor on it and generally scrolling on webpages menu etc its no better than my oneplus
Dont know maybe I will persevere with it and it will get better
Got the pixel 7 on a killer deal with 5g coming from 4g with EE - I literally got the phone for free but not feeling it
Anyone else not buying into the hype?
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I was in the same situation, upgraded from my oneplus 7 pro. I agree that the screen was better on the oneplus and looking at a spec sheet it is obvious that it is the better screen. Other than that and charging speed everything is better on the pixel 7. The NFC is more reliable, better sound quality, better networking, camera and so on. I think it is worth the upgrade if you do not mind the screen. I rarely ever used the dash charge and mostly stuck to slower charging for over night so I do not have issues with the charging and the battery lasts me the whole day anywaay.
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Had the pixel 7 for 4 days now and not that impressed with it
Actually thinking about going back to my OnePlus 7 Pro
The charging is poor on it and generally scrolling on webpages menu etc its no better than my oneplus
Dont know maybe I will persevere with it and it will get better
Got the pixel 7 on a killer deal with 5g coming from 4g with EE - I literally got the phone for free but not feeling it
Anyone else not buying into the hype?
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I've had my pixel 7 since late November, and I'll never buy another. I regret trading in my Galaxy S20fe for this turd of a phone. Google has locked down so much of the stock OS it's ridiculous. Very Apple -like. If I want that garbage I'll just buy an iphone.
But by far the most miserable part is the awful--and I mean TRULY, epically horrifically bad--fingerprint sensor. It's hands down the worst I have ever seen on any phone.
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I've had my pixel 7 since late November, and I'll never buy another. I regret trading in my Galaxy S20fe for this turd of a phone. Google has locked down so much of the stock OS it's ridiculous. Very Apple -like. If I want that garbage I'll just buy an iphone.
But by far the most miserable part is the awful--and I mean TRULY, epically horrifically bad--fingerprint sensor. It's hands down the worst I have ever seen on any phone.
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I can't comment on the OS because I just got the phone and rooted it right out of the box, but Samsung phones are fairly limited themselves IMO not to mention with tons of bloat. I went from an Honor View 10 to an S10(because ATT blocked my V10 from service last year) and the s10 is crap in comparison and has very restrictive OS.
Do you have a screen protector? Did you rescan your fingerprints after? Lots of issues have been reported for those who haven't rescanned after a screen protector install, even changing brands I would recommend it.
GL
I bought this in December after accidentally destroying the screen of my OnePlus 7 Pro. It's everything I loved about that phone, with the bonus of NOT having a curved screen. Best phone ever? Nah. But a damn good and reliable phone? Absolutely.
You need to give Pixels some time, as the software is supposed to be intuitive and adapt to your usage. Also, I think some people coming from a different OEM don't realize Pixels are pure android with no frills, so they don't always "wow" you right out of the box. Pixels aren't for everybody, but those of us who love our Pixels tend to be happy with them and enjoy special features that others may not get due to carrier software manipulation, etc.
At the end of the day, all devices are subjective and it just depends on what you're looking for. Don't like the Pixel? Cool. There are thousands of other options out there. Go find your happy place.
Pixels can run grapheOS, others phones can't. That's me reason to keep pixel phones.
I regret trading in my P3 for this phone
The OS is cleaner and it has some nice functionality, but even my Xiaomi mi 10 that I traded from feels like a better phone. And the battery life, which was the only reason I gave up the mi 10 (which had dropped to 60% battery), is **** on the pixel 7.
cannot talk about the OS, i immediately switched to LineageOS as i'm used to that.
i tend to agree to the general feeling, underwhelming it's a good summary for this device.
in my overall experience, it's a barely good device which could've been great if they wanted to.
Screen: 5/10
mediocre screen... it only looks good on darker colors, lighter ones look terrible with visible rainbow effects at very little movement.
minor, almost imperceptible, flickering on static images.
i completely fail to understand why pixel 7 has so many positive reviews about the screen.
thankfully xda and other reviewers made interesting insights about this issue, sadly we as the customers got a indecent panel.
Battery life: 8/10
usually allows me to do 5h of screen usage with ~50%, which is more than enough for me, just in time to put in charge for the next day.
Camera: 7/10
i expected more, considering the reviews.
i've tried it a few days on stock and gcam but i really don't see why all the praises.
anyway it delivers more than i actually need and care.
front camera is actual ****, really bad for video calls.
About the rest:
fingerprint sensors, odd enough, works ok for me: it always recognize my fingerprint. it's just a tad slow which isn't great.
stereo audio balance is weird.
i'll always complain about 3.5" mm audio jack lack.
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i'll always complain about 3.5" mm audio jack lack.
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It also doesn't have digital to analog conversion, soost USB-C to 3.5mm converters won't work.