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[Q] titanium backup broken- only backs up to internal memory

Hi,
Just got a new LG L90 and wanted to back it up. On my old phone, I used TB and it worked ok most of the time.
But this newer version only backs up to the internal memory which is a no-no. After I discovered that it was defaulting to internal memory, I moved the directory to the sd card, went into prefs and changed it to the sd card. I figured something was wrong when TB claimed there were no backup files in the directory when clearly there were.
But I did a backup anyway, pointing to the SD card, yet it went right back into internal memory.
No error messages, just doesn't work.
Fixable, or get something more modern?
Thanks.

fletchb1 said:
Hi,
Just got a new LG L90 and wanted to back it up. On my old phone, I used TB and it worked ok most of the time.
But this newer version only backs up to the internal memory which is a no-no. After I discovered that it was defaulting to internal memory, I moved the directory to the sd card, went into prefs and changed it to the sd card. I figured something was wrong when TB claimed there were no backup files in the directory when clearly there were.
But I did a backup anyway, pointing to the SD card, yet it went right back into internal memory.
No error messages, just doesn't work.
Fixable, or get something more modern?
Thanks.
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I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, same thing. I looked closer and found out what is going wrong. It is defaulting to /mnt/sd but that is pointing to internal memory. I am not sure if this is a LG or Android problem but anyway, I found the real location but it won't let me select it for some reason. Did kitkat move away from /mnt locations? I am going to keep digging .. I don't know android that well but know general linux and /mnt was used for years.

fletchb1 said:
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, same thing. I looked closer and found out what is going wrong. It is defaulting to /mnt/sd but that is pointing to internal memory. I am not sure if this is a LG or Android problem but anyway, I found the real location but it won't let me select it for some reason. Did kitkat move away from /mnt locations? I am going to keep digging .. I don't know android that well but know general linux and /mnt was used for years.
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Google introduced new security features in KitKat. Apps are no longer allowed external sdcard access without some kind of patch. I use, with CM11 and also LG Stock, Xposed framework with 3 other modules. They are "HandleExternalStorage", "KitKat SD Card Full Access", and "XInternalSD". I also use Link2SD to help conserve user data space.

shinobisoft said:
Google introduced new security features in KitKat. Apps are no longer allowed external sdcard access without some kind of patch. I use, with CM11 and also LG Stock, Xposed framework with 3 other modules. They are "HandleExternalStorage", "KitKat SD Card Full Access", and "XInternalSD". I also use Link2SD to help conserve user data space.
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Thanks..I did some reading and stumbled apon this info. Surprised TB is not away of the issue though. I found something in the playstore that changes permissions and now it is working.
I guess I need to relearn the newer androids as I am coming from 2.3
Thanks again.

[Q] Can we move apps to external SD on Lollipop?

I'm sorry this can appear as another lame demonstration of lazyness, but I searched everywhere and I just can't understand what is happening with my cellphone.
So I grab my Moto G 2014 8GB yesterday. It asked for Lollipop upgrade right out of the box, which I followed instantly. So I can say I never experienced KK and it quierks with SDCards before - although I know them.
So I keep this handful numbers of apps installed; not just that, they create their amount of data on their own - Pocket, Evernote and some other examples. I was just happy to see the whole storage options appearing on Android 5 - external app, external data and so. But the bottom line was different; I had this feeling that altough I could move some apps 2 external SD, they were not actually being moved. And with OI File Manager (don't laugh, everyone has its preferred file manager) I could check it was really not moving anything at all:
So, what I am not understanding: Why the system shows that I can move apps and that they were moved if anything is going to the external storage?
I can take more pictures showing that my ANDROID folder is quite empty and that the example app is not listed there.
Just so no one calls me lazy, my crazy non-tech opinion is that the Lollipop update allows the moving but the new runtimes (ART) don't.
Can someone with the Android 5 update check where their moved apps went?
REMARK: Just so you have all the info, mine is the XT1068 hw model.
EDIT: Mine is a 32GB Kingston Class4. Hum... Does it pick wich card it could work with?

Am I really being that noob? No one answered me...
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Well, Lollipop does allow apps to be moved to your SD Card as usual, I don't see what's the issue here..
Everything has been working fine for me, and your apps appear to be moved as well.

Thanks for your reply. Yes, Motorola Lollipop allows apps to be moved to external memory - but it seems my system it's faking it.
I tried something else: I uninstalled the reference app. Nothing happened to external SD, but the internal memory got the whole amount of space that the system pointed out as internal and external ones. Again, the information is right, but the system is not doing what it's showing in the pictures.
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Yes you can move to sd card
Hey, you can also move move your to external sd card using app called "Link2SD"

If your solution involve root, I'm sorry but it's a no-go for me. I'm tray ng to stay as clean as can - and moto phones seemed my best option for this. But now I can't even download my Evernote data because it's too big and it keeps downloading to internal memory - although it says it's using the external one.
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I am a moto e user..and need my device's elder brother's help
It will be very great full of you guyz if u can confirm if any games are working with their data file placed in sd card ?
i am using moto e(lollipop) and when i place data in sd card it is detected but then the game just shuts down without any message or fc..

That's because data is usually saved on the internal storage. You can move the apps, but not their data.

mpeL said:
That's because data is usually saved on the internal storage. You can move the apps, but not their data.
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My research from the last two days shows exactly this. But it seems that Motorola has made some changes so we could use much more of the external SD card - which is the complaining I have against Moto G 2014.
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Ok i did my research and found that may be those new apps only can be moved which are using the new lollipop api to move the data..as i tested world of tanks(2.5gigs) and it installed fully in sd card..and another one is limbo which too got installed in the sd card..post some more info if u get
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-Adarsh- said:
Ok i did my research and found that may be those new apps only can be moved which are using the new lollipop api to move the data..as i tested world of tanks(2.5gigs) and it installed fully in sd card..and another one is limbo which too got installed in the sd card..post some more info if u get
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could help me with THAT?

IcedG said:
could help me with THAT?
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How can i help u

IcedG said:
could help me with THAT?
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Please check this link:
https://awanstuff.wordpress.com/201...ink2sd-in-any-android-phone-with-screenshots/
It describes the exact way to enable your phone to move all apps to SD. I also ran into the low memory problem and this was my solution.
I have a samsung galaxy S3 on android 5.1.1 by the way. The solution is the 2nd partition on the sd-card that has to be created as primary partition. This is the key. Then Link2SD
sees it and is able to put data on it. There's lots of tools in the play store that promise to handle this and create the partition for you, but none are able to do this correctly. So, you have to resort to a pc and usb-cable and follow the above instructions. Then you can move your apps. Even system apps, but i recommend against that, as i tried this with google play services, but that kept crashing after that, so i reverted the move quickly.
Good luck, it works for me! Can't imagine why it woudn't work for you. :good:

I cannot move applications to SD card

Hello,
I've buy the new Moto G 2014 edition (the one with a 5" screen) and my other phone was the Alcatel Idol 2s.
The thing I don't understand with the MotoG is I cannot move applications to my 32Gb SD Card, on the other side on the Alcatel I can move all applications (except few one like the Google apps) but on the MotoG, it's only a few one I can move.
And I cannot tell the MotoG to install the apps by default to SD card.
What is the other solution, because the internal 8Gb will be fill very fast.
Thanks guys!

Try to following:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
Or if you have Xposed installed, get "XInternalSD"

SirRhor said:
Try to following:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
Or if you have Xposed installed, get "XInternalSD"
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With this i will be able to set the MicroSd as the default "storage"?

Rambytes said:
With this i will be able to set the MicroSd as the default "storage"?
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For the second option yes. For this first one I don't know because I have not used it.

I tried Link2SD way back and had mixed results with it. Depending on your SD card, you could find apps very slow to load. Also, unless anything's changed the card will have to be partitioned. The app used to require the APP2SD partition be ext2/ext3/ext4 and the other partition for your media stuff would be fat32. Also be aware that some apps just won't like being on the SD card and may not work well or correctly. Maybe someone that has used it recently knows more, but it just didn't work for me. Keep in mind it was back in Jellybean days when I used it. Oh yeah, you will need to be rooted.
Below is a link to the guide on using it and I had that, I probably would have been happier. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326

Practical difficulty with adopt SD as internal storage

Hello.
Its been a while and I've been using the SD as an internal memory for a while. While I love this feature there is a very weird thing with this feature that if you move an app to SD and if it gets an update, it gets moved back to the internal storage which is slightly inconvenient. However more inconvenient is the fact that all the app data gets lost in this updation procedure.
Would any kind soul suggest a workaround or a script to get around this annoying glitch? I mean I really love this feature but it obviously needs polish from Google.
Also another thing is while shifting these apps back to SD, it sometimes says not enough space (despite having lots of it). On the second try it shifts. Any idea what's up with this?
Thanks!

I am having the exact same issues and the same complain.
Being on a device having only 4GB of internal storage (that too only 2.28 GB usable) this "adopt as internal" feature in Marshmallow really came as a boon. However with these issues the whole idea becomes worthless.
I did a bit of search on Google about this feature. For nexus phones on marshmallow there is a "Migrate data" option to the SD card adopted as internal. However this is not available for our devices. It only shows up in the internal storage and lets you migrate from SD to internal? Grrrr....what good would that do?
Any kind of workaround would really help and convince me to keep this phone for another year maybe

I think you're getting confused. We too have the same option but this moving back to the internal storage on updation is something Google needs to address..

psiknight99 said:
I think you're getting confused. We too have the same option but this moving back to the internal storage on updation is something Google needs to address..
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Since google's nexus phones lack sdcard slots, this feature was probably introduced keeping android one series phones
in mind, however there is so much confusion regarding it's objective at the moment,for it is only partial implementation of sdcard as internal memory. After updates I am aleardy down to 500mb space on internal storage, the point is if despite using sdcard as internal storage if my original storage space still runs out--what purpose does it serve then? I would have used link2sd otherwise,but this feature put me like many others in dilemma.

Yeah mate, really disappointing..

I have the exact same problem
What was google thinking before releasing this half finished feature
I hope there is an update soon to fix this problem

Some apps disappear after reboot
After moving apps to sd, apps like mxplayer, Microsoft word etc just disappear.
They are automatically uninstalled.
Can anyone confirm this??
Also it would be great if someone finds a workaround these problems

Yup Firefox disappears everytime I install it. So do many other apps..

psiknight99 said:
Yup Firefox disappears everytime I install it. So do many other apps..
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This is so not cool man.
Whats the use of this feature if apps keep on disappearing
My observation is that the apps which directly get installed on SD card have these issues.
The apps that gets installed on internal first and then moved to SD, survives reboot.
Maybe app developers can make changes to their apps to support this functionality.

Clearly a half assed attempt from Google on this..I re-flashed my ROM and didn't chose the portable storage option. Link2sd doesn't work on Marshmallow yet so I'm just stuck with a typical 4GB internal memory crap phone.

psiknight99 said:
Clearly a half assed attempt from Google on this..I re-flashed my ROM and didn't chose the portable storage option. Link2sd doesn't work on Marshmallow yet so I'm just stuck with a typical 4GB internal memory crap phone.
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I hope that from here on this feature will only improve.
Lets pray that bugs will be fixed soon, and google doesn't scarps this project like other projects.
I am still using it as phone storage.. well something is better than nothing

psiknight99 said:
Clearly a half assed attempt from Google on this..I re-flashed my ROM and didn't chose the portable storage option. Link2sd doesn't work on Marshmallow yet so I'm just stuck with a typical 4GB internal memory crap phone.
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Make two partitions on your sd card, select portable storage option in Marshmallow, install apps2sd,it has all features of link2sd for free,I am using it myself.

same issue, app disappears or data gets lost or sometimes all apps start crashing untill reboot (when this happens cant modify/write anything on sd card, reboot fixes this though )

DarkAlvy said:
same issue, app disappears or data gets lost or sometimes all apps start crashing untill reboot (when this happens cant modify/write anything on sd card, reboot fixes this though )
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Like I said before, simply use sdcard as portable(don't forget to make two partitions) and use apps2sd(it also has an inbuilt partitioning tool), this is by far the best setup as of now to overcome internal memory constraint
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arshavin69 said:
Like I said before, simply use sdcard as portable(don't forget to make two partitions) and use apps2sd(it also has an inbuilt partitioning tool), this is by far the best setup as of now to overcome internal memory constraint
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But i will have to root to do that right?

arshavin69 said:
Like I said before, simply use sdcard as portable(don't forget to make two partitions) and use apps2sd(it also has an inbuilt partitioning tool), this is by far the best setup as of now to overcome internal memory constraint
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Hi @arshavin69,
I am trying to use app2sd as you explained, but I am stuck on 2nd partition mounting.
I created 2 partitions by Minitool Partition Manager (because app2sd internal partition manager cause app force close): 1st partitition fat32, 2nd partition ext4.
Once booted up, I choose "portable" and then I open app2sd: app2sd say 2nd partition is not mounted and ask to remount or recreate mount script.
If I try to remount I get an error: mounting /dev/block/vold/179:66 on /data/sdext2 failed No such file or directory.
If I try to recreate the mount script, app2sd ask to choose sd card 2nd partition and file system type.
I am choose /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 and ext4 file system, then app2sd ask to reboot.
After rebooting app2sd says again that 2nd partition is not mounted and ask to remount or recreate mount script.
Could you please explain steb by step what I have to do?
Thank you!
SOLVED dismissing the notification when the phone ask to choose the sd card mount (portable).

DarkAlvy said:
But i will have to root to do that right?
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Of course!! You can't use even link2sd without root.

DarkAlvy said:
same issue, app disappears or data gets lost or sometimes all apps start crashing untill reboot (when this happens cant modify/write anything on sd card, reboot fixes this though )
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if your apps disappear after reboot, just transfer them to internal storage and it won't disappear after that

6.0.1 has made this feature unusable.
after updating to 6.0.1 most of the apps cant be moved to external sd.
internal storage gets filled with google apps
this really sucks

abhijitkadam03 said:
After moving apps to sd, apps like mxplayer, Microsoft word etc just disappear.
They are automatically uninstalled.
Can anyone confirm this??
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Exactly! This is the issue that I was facing.

No option to move apps to internal storage?

Hello I'm using a Huawei GR3 2017 (PRA-LX2 running emui 5.0.1) and I was wondering if this device has been restricted to move apps to sd card?
At first I thought that switching the default location in the Settings from Internal to SD card would make the move to SD card possible in apps, or at least put my apps I would download to the card.
However, I guess it just means that it would just put my shot photos, videos, screenshots etc. and downloaded files to the card, but not apps themselves. Factoey reset then downloading my applications again didn't work.
Is the only way to move them is to have my phone rooted then? What led me first to assume that I can move apps to sd is the option "force allow apps on external storage" in the developer options (which I can't seem to turn on no matter what)
Has Huawei restricted moving apps to sd card for this device?
Thanks for your time! (and i hope i am in the right forum)

Since Android 6 Google disabled that option. So you need root or you can format SD card as internal storage
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Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately there really is no option to format my sd card as internal; not sure if this is an emui thing or what, since I see people using stock android 6 and above with that option available in their devices.
So my only option is to root then? Or is there a chance that they would enable it again on emui 8.0? I've searched a bit and found out (in many sites) that gr3 2017 is on the list to receive the update.

CookieThief said:
Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately there really is no option to format my sd card as internal; not sure if this is an emui thing or what, since I see people using stock android 6 and above with that option available in their devices.
So my only option is to root then? Or is there a chance that they would enable it again on emui 8.0? I've searched a bit and found out (in many sites) that gr3 2017 is on the list to receive the update.
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Search for a tutorial for change / resize the partitions of sdcard, no need root.
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dannyzamora said:
Search for a tutorial for change / resize the partitions of sdcard, no need root.
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Thanks for the tip!
Did some research and found a turorial for my device to make my sd card part of the internal (i guess?) using adb. With this method and no root in the process, i shouldn't be worried of having my warranty voided, issues on OTA updates, etc. then? Just making sure

CookieThief said:
Thanks for the tip!
Did some research and found a turorial for my device to make my sd card part of the internal (i guess?) using adb. With this method and no root in the process, i shouldn't be worried of having my warranty voided, issues on OTA updates, etc. then? Just making sure
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Did you achieve it? Would you share the description?

papzi57 said:
Did you achieve it? Would you share the description?
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UPDATE:
Yes, it was a success
By doing it via usb (debugging mode) and using adb to enable adoptable storage. A detailed procedure can be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...3-p8-lite2017-enable-adoptable-t3689850/page1 (credits to the op!)
At the part where I had to unmount and mount the sd card, I tried inputting the code to do it, but it seemed that adb couldn't recognize it so I just went to my settings in the phone, ejected the sd card and mounted it again. So far I didn't screw things up tho. The free space was 11+ gb after I was finished with the process. Before it was only 400 plus mb :cyclops:
After 3 days since, I've experienced nothing wrong; no bugs, glitches, slowdowns etc. All I haven't tested are the OTA updates, but I guess it's still working cuz I can still search for the updates (I already have emui 5.0.1)
But keep in mind that ONLY use fast micro sd's, I am using a Sandisk Ultra with an A1 rating, which I think is made for running applications (from the"A" bit) so I would recommend that at the very least (I bought the 16gb one)
Thanks all for the help! I included a screenshot of the settings' readings on my phone's storage, but I think this is only natural from force adopting storage (hope so) and a screenshot of my file manager readings on it.

yeah this messes up the storage settings.
It's also not a perfect solution - some apps will install to the "adopted" SD card, but many still insist on installing on the internal memory, so it doesn't buy you a lot of extra space. Fundamentally 16GB is not enough for a modern Android phone - I won't buy another with less than 32GB.