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UPDATED! Shock horror. Mate 10 vs Mate 9 display!!b

Ok maybe a little dramatic but still - a little disappointing.
I have done a few tests. Played the exact same HDR YouTube videos at the exact same time with my Mate 9 and Mate 10 one above the other in landscape mode. The Mate 9 is MUCH brighter than the Mate 10 on maximum brightness. I have factored turning off auto brightness and turned off Smart resolution etc etc. They also have different colour temperatures even if you set them both to warm, default or cold - they still look different.
I have tried HDR videos on both phones and I see absolutely no difference. I studied the colours so hard. I see absolutely no difference between a 1440p video and a 1080p video playing at the same time. In fact, most times the Mate 9 looks sharper and more vibrant. Also shockingly the Mate 9 offered for example 1080p 60fps option on a video whereas the Mate 10 offered maximum 720p 60fps on the same video. 1080p was nowhere in the list. What the hec! Battery at 100% so no resolution switching to save power.
Basically, it is true 1440p is wasted on a phone. There is no difference on a small screen such as a phone. All these people saying "yeah but X phone only has a 1080p screen" don't realise that it doesn't really matter. It all looks the same.
So I hear the Mate 10 is HDR 10 compatible and yet I don't see it with my eyes. If I am doing something wrong and someone wants to correct me, please DO. I want to be wrong.
What are your tests and opinions?
Despite all this, I still love the phone. ?

I take it all back.
I have discovered YouTube does not show HDR10 output even if the video says so.
ONLY the built in video player supports true HDR10 content.
I downloaded these HDR sample videos from an XDA post:
https://mega.nz/#F!jYwlgbBA!piXwD8sYa7zjsRtjStuAyw
Play them in the default video player and they look stunning. I took a screenshot of a paused video and when opened up in gallery, the colours were bland compared to the actual playing footage. Proof enough.
Phew! This phone is amazing!

Do you get higher peak brightness when in vivid mode ?

AFAIK - Currently Netflix is the only third party app supporting HDR 10 for this phone
Youtube coming soon though,
So, you might want to change your thread title, LoL

tboy2000 said:
I take it all back.
I have discovered YouTube does not show HDR10 output even if the video says so.
ONLY the built in video player supports true HDR10 content.
I downloaded these HDR sample videos from an XDA post:
https://mega.nz/#F!jYwlgbBA!piXwD8sYa7zjsRtjStuAyw
Play them in the default video player and they look stunning. I took a screenshot of a paused video and when opened up in gallery, the colours were bland compared to the actual playing footage. Proof enough.
Phew! This phone is amazing!
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i try the videos there,look extremely amazing with very excellent vivid colors

tboy2000 said:
Ok maybe a little dramatic but still - a little disappointing.
I have done a few tests. Played the exact same HDR YouTube videos at the exact same time with my Mate 9 and Mate 10 one above the other in landscape mode. The Mate 9 is MUCH brighter than the Mate 10 on maximum brightness. I have factored turning off auto brightness and turned off Smart resolution etc etc. They also have different colour temperatures even if you set them both to warm, default or cold - they still look different.
I have tried HDR videos on both phones and I see absolutely no difference. I studied the colours so hard. I see absolutely no difference between a 1440p video and a 1080p video playing at the same time. In fact, most times the Mate 9 looks sharper and more vibrant. Also shockingly the Mate 9 offered for example 1080p 60fps option on a video whereas the Mate 10 offered maximum 720p 60fps on the same video. 1080p was nowhere in the list. What the hec! Battery at 100% so no resolution switching to save power.
Basically, it is true 1440p is wasted on a phone. There is no difference on a small screen such as a phone. All these people saying "yeah but X phone only has a 1080p screen" don't realise that it doesn't really matter. It all looks the same.
So I hear the Mate 10 is HDR 10 compatible and yet I don't see it with my eyes. If I am doing something wrong and someone wants to correct me, please DO. I want to be wrong.
What are your tests and opinions?
Despite all this, I still love the phone.
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Of course it's the same because mate 10 comes preset to 1080p lol. And stop listening to tech reviewers the are dumb, only way to see it 1080p and 2k is to use magnifying object like camera or glass etc. I have iPhone 7 plus, LG G6, Moto Z play, Essential phone and the s8 which I sold because of burn in, I don't see the dots pixel on any off them because I don't look for it, they all looks the same some are brighter and vibrant than others. That's it.

Another thing, the max brightness on auto is superior than the manual max brightness. That happen on a bunch of smartphones.
So, it's dumb to compare max brightness with the auto setting turned off.
The best way to compare it, is going outdoor with the auto checked on both and look which one seems brighter.
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Where is my Netflix 4k?

I don't see 4k as an option in my Netflix app and the HDR videos, the blacks aren't black. It's like grey. I'm confused. I have data usage to Max, I've reinstalled the app, I have 110 mbps down with Comcast.
Is this all by design?

I think it is region and content dependant, I dont see it in my samsung tv either,

Pardon me for asking but what's the point of 4K content when you dont have a 4K display?

I didn't think Netflix content would show available as 4K unless the app detects a 4K screen which the Note doesn't have .Same as their television apps.
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You have to subscribe to 4k content as well.
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According to this site Note 8 has "3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440" & it is certified by the "UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows it to play all of the latest content produced for 4K UHD Premium TVs" it means it is HDR ready I can clearly see a difference between HD & HDR content on Netflix and on downloaded videos!

But tell me why Netflix is incompatible with my device?
I have Netflix istalled on my phone and one time when I opened it the app was asking for update. Took me straight from Netflix to Play store and there it said something "This app is incompatible with your device". After that I couldn't even find Netflix from Play anymore.
I got stock international Exynos version, N950F/DS

Spere said:
But tell me why Netflix is incompatible with my device?
I have Netflix istalled on my phone and one time when I opened it the app was asking for update. Took me straight from Netflix to Play store and there it said something "This app is incompatible with your device". After that I couldn't even find Netflix from Play anymore.
I got stock international Exynos version, N950F/DS
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Rooted ? If it's the case, don't look further... And install Netflix from apkmirror

En Kee said:
Rooted ? If it's the case, don't look further... And install Netflix from apkmirror
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Like I said, stock. So no root.

itsmohsink said:
According to this site Note 8 has "3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440" & it is certified by the "UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows it to play all of the latest content produced for 4K UHD Premium TVs" it means it is HDR ready I can clearly see a difference between HD & HDR content on Netflix and on downloaded videos!
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To be honest, watching 4K downscaled instead of 1080p upscaled on a 3K display kinda makes sense, at least. But the HDR is a top argument, enough said.

I'm not even that mad at the resolution. It might actually be showing in 3k but just not labeled as so. I'm more made I'm getting a washed out black level when watching HDR. That's the opposite of HDR. Complete opposite. If you watch your nav bar right as it switches to HDR Netflix you can see it turn from black to grey almost. Why Netflix, why.

pychobj2001 said:
I'm not even that mad at the resolution. It might actually be showing in 3k but just not labeled as so. I'm more made I'm getting a washed out black level when watching HDR. That's the opposite of HDR. Complete opposite. If you watch your nav bar right as it switches to HDR Netflix you can see it turn from black to grey almost. Why Netflix, why.
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Ok, so the question really is why Netflix isn't showing hdr content?
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Limeybastard said:
Ok, so the question really is why Netflix isn't showing hdr content?
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Or showing it wrong. It's labeled HDR and does look very bright and colorful. The blacks are wrong and sometimes the highlights are a tad off. Like on skin. Can anybody test and confirm this grey black effect?

Dud you try to switch Screen Mode to AMOLED Cinema to see if it makes any difference?

No difference. Still makes the blacks turn grey.

In Brazil too don't work HDR in Galaxy Note 8 and my speed internet is 100mb I try contact support Netflix but they don't know way don't work.

Sharpness in 1080p?

Does anyone experience bad 1080p video recording. It's not sharp enough.
If I record in 4K everything is really sharp.
The P10's 1080p video is not so sharp as my earlier iPhone SE.
Why is that?
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xalodogan said:
Does anyone experience bad 1080p video recording. It's not sharp enough.
If I record in 4K everything is really sharp.
The P10's 1080p video is not so sharp as my earlier iPhone SE.
Why is that?
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Hi, you are not alone unfortunately. I have realised that some time ago on Five Finger Deatch Punch concert - it was on android 7. Now I'm on 8.0 but haven't tested it since as i set 4k as default
Edit: I have tested it yesterday and it's still visible on android 8 (tom ver. 360) when you disable pro settings, but everything is fine when the pro settings are on. I have also tested it on my friend P10 pro (rom. 185) and he doesnt have this ptoblem at all and everything is working fine. Looks like our P10 have got an autofocus problem

Youtube HDR - Mate 10 Pro

Hi all
Maybe I am wrong, but some time ago I could not see HDR mark on the video in YT,
Now with the latest updated (from 21 May) it seems that new app supports HDR on Mate 10 Pro

HDR is working now on YouTube app.
And I want to mention that I've compared mate 10 pro display with samsung S8 plus and S10 plus playing hdr videos and the result is that Mate 10 pro has the most beautiful display, collors are more realistic, there is a huge difference..... Mate 10 pro display is better than samsung one, the clarity is superiour, collors more realistic and it is an oled pannel too. I can't believe that mate 10 pro display is soo good, I'm a Samsung fan but Mate 10 pro impressed me.

liviuionut22 said:
HDR is working now on YouTube app.
And I want to mention that I've compared mate 10 pro display with samsung S8 plus and S10 plus playing hdr videos and the result is that Mate 10 pro has the most beautiful display, collors are more realistic, there is a huge difference.
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They may have some different displays' settings, you've got it?
So, it's a tnin matter – the real test on the same settings.
And we know nothing about yours, dude.

amosk59 said:
They may have some different displays' settings, you've got it?
So, it's a tnin matter – the real test on the same settings.
And we know nothing about yours, dude.
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As long as he is happy lol. Anyways its mostly subjective.... nobody cares about some HDR video testing. to this date HDR is barely available for normal youtube content nor other apps etc. so who cares? In the end any decent oled screen with decent brightness will do the job.

amosk59 said:
They may have some different displays' settings, you've got it?
So, it's a tnin matter – the real test on the same settings.
And we know nothing about yours, dude.
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Displays were set to vivid to all the phones. Mate 10 pro showed more realistic collours. Test it yourself and see if I am right.
My phone is Mate 10 pro bla l09 single sim model.
The other two phones are from some of my friends.
Galaxy s8 plus refreshes at 1080p with hdr, and at 4k with hdr it runs even harder. Galaxy s10 plus works well in both resolutions. Iven the display resolution is higher on samsung phones the clarity and the colour calibration is better in my mate 10 pro, in my opinion.

HDR compability?

Hi. Just quick question: is this device hdr compatible? Netflix says that no, youtube shows no hdr ( i can play hdr videos but with no hdr efects ). Anyone?

maderos said:
Hi. Just quick question: is this device hdr compatible? Netflix says that no, youtube shows no hdr ( i can play hdr videos but with no hdr efects ). Anyone?
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Should be it is listed many places as having HDR 10+. I haven't tried but will now.
Edit yea Netflix says it is not compatible....

Quoted from reviews "One thing worth noting is that Netflix does not support HDR playback on the FE as of writing this - YouTube and Amazon Prime Video, on the other hand, do, so the phone definitely supports HDR, but it will be up to Netflix to enable the streaming support in HDR. The DRM Info app reports the phone is indeed capable of HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG playback, and it has Widevine Level 1." They need to support it. The hardware is there.
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Thx...i know it already
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Neither Netflix nor Prime shows in HDR for me on the S20 FE. Youtube detects the display is HDR capable, but does not seem to activate HDR (e.g., by maxing the brightness). My guess is Samsung caught these content providers by surprise with the release of the S20 FE, so they haven't had time to certify the display and make sure it works correctly with their services.

try the original youtube App not a modded Version.
It does HDR for me with high Brightness.
But sometimes the brightness stutters a bit.

maik005 said:
try the original youtube App not a modded Version.
It does HDR for me with high Brightness.
But sometimes the brightness stutters a bit.
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I can confirm HDR works. Just blinded myself watching some Costa Rican video.

It is no for me. Youtube app or vanced, no hdr effect.
Edit. Youtube app shows me hdr content but brightness changes too frequent.
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Hi!
This issue is fixed?
I want to purchase the device and before that I want to know if the HDR support exists on Netflix.
Can someone please share a screenshot at "App settings - Reproduction specification" in the Netflix app?
Best Regards

jhobc said:
Hi!
This issue is fixed?
I want to purchase the device and before that I want to know if the HDR support exists on Netflix.
Can someone please share a screenshot at "App settings - Reproduction specification" in the Netflix app?
Best Regards
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just looked on my S20 FE 5G EU Model (SM-G781B)
It says there
HDR possibilities:
None.

maik005 said:
just looked on my S20 FE 5G EU Model (SM-G781B)
It says there
HDR possibilities:
None.
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Thanks!
What's the software version of your device?

jhobc said:
Thanks!
What's the software version of your device?
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and the info from Netflix App an Netflix App version.

Thanks a lot @maik005 !
Samsung/Netflix forgotten about the HDR support for this device.
I will buy the device. Have nice specs for the price ratio.
Let's hope for some fix in a early future
But at least have Full HD... Better than nothing

Other than Netflix can HDR10 file be played with regular video players like MX Player and the Android stock video player?
HDR UHD 4K Demos | 4K Media
UHD 4K demos with HDR (high dynamic range), this expands the range of both contrast and color significantly.
4kmedia.org

I can play them without a problem.
But the display stays at low brightness and it does not look like HDR even with B
max brightness.
Tested with VLC and Samsung Video Player.

Now the S20 FE is on the Netflix HDR supported devices list
Maybe after a system update we can finally watch HDR content
How to use Netflix on your Android phone or tablet
To watch Netflix, download the app from the Google Play Store, open it, then follow the instructions.
help.netflix.com