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I remember before was okay...when I clicked Hide Magisk Manager from setting, it will rename the app to unhide magisk manager......
But now after I clicked Hide Magisk Manager from setting....it will not re-create a new app for me....and the option for Hide magisk manager is gone in the setting....Just would like to know is this normal or I messed up something ? Please advise . Thanks a lot.
I updated today to version 15 and, in addition to brick my device, the hide function also does not work. I uninstalled the system, reinstalled version 14 and it's all right. I will wait for the correct corrections to update.
I have hide option. I'm using it to apps that detects unwanted root. For me works fine.
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ctl999999 said:
I remember before was okay...when I clicked Hide Magisk Manager from setting, it will rename the app to unhide magisk manager......
But now after I clicked Hide Magisk Manager from setting....it will not re-create a new app for me....and the option for Hide magisk manager is gone in the setting....Just would like to know is this normal or I messed up something ? Please advise . Thanks a lot.
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The function has changed. It will now repackage the Manager with a random name (you'll see it in the "About" section). That the option to hide the Manager disappears from settings simply means it's hidden. To unhide, install the Manager again. This also means that every time Magisk or the Manager is updated you'll have to rehide the Manager.
I tried again and the problem persists. Is there something new in this version 15 that needs to be configured differently?
AndreSantoro84 said:
I tried again and the problem persists. Is there something new in this version 15 that needs to be configured differently?
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Seriously though... Try toggling Hide off and on in the Manager settings, that might fix it for you.
Nothing, not even praying, but version 14 works perfectly. I'll continue with her then.
Checking the Samsung Pay app in Magisk Hide used to work but now it does not. I tried to hide the Magisk app itself but that isn't working either. The app's icon disappears from my home screen but still shows up in my app drawer. Any ideas? I really like Samsung Pay.
daddylonglegs said:
Checking the Samsung Pay app in Magisk Hide used to work but now it does not. I tried to hide the Magisk app itself but that isn't working either. The app's icon disappears from my home screen but still shows up in my app drawer. Any ideas? I really like Samsung Pay.
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Samsung updated something. Investigation is ongoing...
Didgeridoohan said:
Samsung updated something. Investigation is ongoing...
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Thank you. But it still does not explain why hiding Magisk Manager doesn't work for me. It just deletes the icon from my home screen. It still shows up in the app drawer.
daddylonglegs said:
Thank you. But it still does not explain why hiding Magisk Manager doesn't work for me. It just deletes the icon from my home screen. It still shows up in the app drawer.
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That's something completely different... But completely fine and as it should be.
When you hide the Manager, it uninstalls itself and installs a new Manager with a random package so that apps looking for the Manager doesn't trigger. That's why the home screen shortcut is removed, because the app actually is uninstalled.
Edit: and every time you update Magisk or the Manager this'll happen again, because whenever you reinstall/update the Manager, it gets unhidden. The repackaged Manager is uninstalled and the regular one takes over.
Didgeridoohan said:
That's something completely different... But completely fine and as it should be.
When you hide the Manager, it uninstalls itself and installs a new Manager with a random package so that apps looking for the Manager doesn't trigger. That's why the home screen shortcut is removed, because the app actually is uninstalled.
Edit: and every time you update Magisk or the Manager this'll happen again, because whenever you reinstall/update the Manager, it gets unhidden. The repackaged Manager is uninstalled and the regular one takes over.
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Ah OK but when I click on Magisk Manager in the app drawer it actually opens.
daddylonglegs said:
Ah OK but when I click on Magisk Manager in the app drawer it actually opens.
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Of course, it's still there. Just a different package name.
daddylonglegs said:
Ah OK but when I click on Magisk Manager in the app drawer it actually opens.
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It's already been stated, but that's how it works. It's not hidden so that you can't use it. It's just been hidden by changing the package name to a random one. So, any app looking for the package name com.topjohnwu.magisk won't trigger if you've hidden the Manager.
Didgeridoohan said:
It's already been stated, but that's how it works. It's not hidden so that you can't use it. It's just been hidden by changing the package name to a random one. So, any app looking for the package name com.topjohnwu.magisk won't trigger if you've hidden the Manager.
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Sorry about that. Then why isn't this just the default setting if it doesn't affect anything negatively?
daddylonglegs said:
Sorry about that. Then why isn't this just the default setting if it doesn't affect anything negatively?
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No worries mate.
It's always best to keep things running as normal, unless you really need to... The repackaging feature is actually really complicated.
I'm using Magisk 15.3 and installed SafetyNet check then went to Magisk Hide in Menu and selected the apps I want to run as unrooted and it works. Try installing the safetynet check maybe it will work with you as well.
Didgeridoohan said:
No worries mate.
It's always best to keep things running as normal, unless you really need to... The repackaging feature is actually really complicated.
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If I am getting the idea of this right, Magisk Manager is supposed to repackage itself with a random name so that it can't be seen by other apps? Or is it supposed to rename itself so when you look in the apps drawer, it is not called Magisk Manager?
Mr. Abraxas said:
If I am getting the idea of this right, Magisk Manager is supposed to repackage itself with a random name so that it can't be seen by other apps? Or is it supposed to rename itself so when you look in the apps drawer, it is not called Magisk Manager?
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Your first assumption is correct. The package name will change from com.topjohnwu.magisk to something random.
Didgeridoohan said:
Your first assumption is correct. The package name will change from com.topjohnwu.magisk to something random.
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Ok, so what is it hiding itself from? Or when I hide other apps, what is it hiding them from? Like if I have a game I want to hide, it keeps the game in my app drawer, so it is not really hiding it from my own eyes.
I'm looking for a way to use Barclays App with my rooted phone (P8Lite). I thought Magisk will do it, but for some reason, it seems the app still detects the phone is rooted.
What I did:
- installed Magisk
- installed Barclays App (did NOT start the app!)
- Set Barclays App to Hide, in Magisk Hide menu
- rebooted the phone (just to be sure, I don't think it was required)
- checked if the app was still marked as hidden (it was)
- started Barclays App => It detected the phone is rooted
Anyone able to use Barclays App with rooted phone? If yes, how?
Cheers.
You forgot an important step: hiding the Manager itself.
More on hiding root in the Magisk guide.
Didgeridoohan said:
You forgot an important step: hiding the Manager itself.
More on hiding root in the Magisk guide.
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Do you know if barclays app also detects other apps like xposed or Root Uninstaller? Like "indirectly" detecting if the phone is rooted?
derei said:
Do you know if barclays app also detects other apps like xposed or Root Uninstaller? Like "indirectly" detecting if the phone is rooted?
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No idea, but that is a quite common detection method...
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No idea, but that is a quite common detection method...
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Were you able to use Barclays App with rooted phone?
derei said:
Were you able to use Barclays App with rooted phone?
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I've never used the app... But, IIRC, it's one of the banking apps with dependencies.
If anyone was able to run Barclays app on rooted phone, I'd appreciate to share their experience.
Didn't work for me. Hid the app and magisk. Disabled Xposed and passed SafetyNet. Device showing certified under Playstore. App was starting and crashing.
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If anyone was able to run Barclays app on rooted phone, I'd appreciate to share their experience.
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If I hide the Manager, add the app and the phone app (com.android.phone) to the Hide list, it starts just fine. Otherwise it doesn't start and complains about a rooted phone. If the app has detected root once, I have to clear app data for it to work. Can't test more than that since I'm not a customer of that bank.
All of this is documented in the links I've posted above...
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If I hide the Manager, add the app and the phone app (com.android.phone) to the Hide list, it starts just fine. Otherwise it doesn't start and complains about a rooted phone. If the app has detected root once, I have to clear app data for it to work. Can't test more than that since I'm not a customer of that bank.
All of this is documented in the links I've posted above...
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Will test using your workaround. Still, is weird that you need to hide the phone app. Any particular reason why this is needed?
derei said:
Will test using your workaround. Still, is weird that you need to hide the phone app. Any particular reason why this is needed?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...ces-magisk-t3779919/post76283404#post76283404
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...ces-magisk-t3779919/post76283404#post76283404
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thanks, I guess I missed that reading yesterday.
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If I hide the Manager, add the app and the phone app (com.android.phone) to the Hide list, it starts just fine. Otherwise it doesn't start and complains about a rooted phone. If the app has detected root once, I have to clear app data for it to work. Can't test more than that since I'm not a customer of that bank.
All of this is documented in the links I've posted above...
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Thanks! Followed your tip but no luck. App crashing straight after giving phone permission.
gkornaks said:
Thanks! Followed your tip but no luck. App crashing straight after giving phone permission.
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I'm assuming you've cleared data for the Barclay app...
What about other known root apps on your device?
Didgeridoohan said:
I'm assuming you've cleared data for the Barclay app...
What about other known root apps on your device?
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Yes, I did. Got one app hidden from Magisk and working.
@Didgeridoohan
As you've been asking about other root apps, I have the following:
-Magisk
- Greenify
-BusyBox
-Amplify
-Link2SD
-Root Uninstaller Pro
-SD Maid
(Not sure if I will install Xposed, but most probably I will)
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Yes, I did. Got one app hidden from Magisk and working.
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No, I mean: Do you have any apps on your device that the Barclay app might detect? Kind of like below...
derei said:
@Didgeridoohan
As you've been asking about other root apps, I have the following:
-Magisk
- Greenify
-BusyBox
-Amplify
-Link2SD
-Root Uninstaller Pro
-SD Maid
(Not sure if I will install Xposed, but most probably I will)
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If Busybox means that you have Stericson's or Jrummy's Busybox installer, yes those might trigger apps looking for signs of root. Use @osm0sis Busybox from the Magisk repo and you'll be good to go (it'll be hidden by Magisk, since it's a Magisk module). Root Uninstaller is another app that has been known to trigger a reaction.
But, easiest way for you to know is to freeze or uninstall those apps and see if it works.
If you install Xposed you can be sure that there'll be a whole lot of apps triggering. Xposed can't be hidden and need to be deactivated if there's an app you want to use that doesn't like it.
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No, I mean: Do you have any apps on your device that the Barclay app might detect? Kind of like below...
If Busybox means that you have Stericson's or Jrummy's Busybox installer, yes those might trigger apps looking for signs of root. Use @osm0sis Busybox from the Magisk repo and you'll be good to go (it'll be hidden by Magisk, since it's a Magisk module). Root Uninstaller is another app that has been known to trigger a reaction.
But, easiest way for you to know is to freeze or uninstall those apps and see if it works.
If you install Xposed you can be sure that there'll be a whole lot of apps triggering. Xposed can't be hidden and need to be deactivated if there's an app you want to use that doesn't like it.
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I've got few like Greenify, DNS changer and UMS enabler root apps. The rest is Magisk modules: Xposed and Busybox which were disabled when I was trying to launch Barclaycard app. It was complaining about the root just crashing after granting phone permissions. Got it working on my IPhone anyway. Thanks!
Good news:
Barclays app is working with Magistik.
I had to hide:
-barclays
-dialer
and as a precaution:
-app systemizer (magistik module)
-sd maid + Pro key
-Solid Explorer (as it can use root features)
I had to remove:
-Xposed (even though it was installed as magistik module)
-Amplify
I'm curious if there would be a way to DISABLE Xposed when Barclays is used, in a way that it won't be discovered (and no reboot required, ideally). In this way, maybe I could use Amplify... any ideas?
Main point is that I'm not using Barclays App all day long, so a small inconvenience would be accepted when I need the app, but Amplify is providing considerable benefit continuously, so it would make sense to have a compromise that keeps both with minimum of complications/discomfort.
Barclays App works if you hide it in Magisk Manager and you hide Magisk manager manager. No need to hide Phone Dialer.
If the described setup does not work, means your system is "dirty". In your case you had Xposed installed. Even if can be installed as a Magisk Module, YOU WILL BREAK HIDING SYSTEM IF YOU INSTALL XPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to make a decision. Pick one:
- Barclays
- Xposed
Next time search in the main Magisk support thread, because me and others have discussed about Barclays app many times.
I want to root my phone, but I want to check if Secure Mail works on rooted phone with Magisk. Can someone confirm? Thanks.
This is the link to the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.citrix.mail.droid
I tested it out. I added it into Magisk Hide within the Magisk Manager app and it started to work. However, the first time I tried, I was given an error.
Ariac Konrel said:
I tested it out. I added it into Magisk Hide within the Magisk Manager app and it started to work. However, the first time I tried, I was given an error.
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Thanks, Ariac for testing it out.
I will only get that Error, without also hiding the manager
Ariac Konrel said:
I tested it out. I added it into Magisk Hide within the Magisk Manager app and it started to work. However, the first time I tried, I was given an error.
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Hi.. I am not able to get it work with quickedit app by citrix. Its used to open attachments from citrix securemail app
Nikhil2608 said:
Hi.. I am not able to get it work with quickedit app by citrix. Its used to open attachments from citrix securemail app
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Same
quickedit called from secure mail detects root, while quickedit stopped detecting it if called directly after added to magisk hide
Seems Magisk doesn't hide fast enough on intent or something
thermatk said:
Same
quickedit called from secure mail detects root, while quickedit stopped detecting it if called directly after added to magisk hide
Seems Magisk doesn't hide fast enough on intent or something
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Use Root cloak xposed module and select the apps. Plus add 'Magisk' in ' Add/remove keywords hidden by RootCloak'. It works...
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Use Root cloak xposed module and select the apps. Plus add 'Magisk' in ' Add/remove keywords hidden by RootCloak'. It works...
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Thank you!
Nice, but I'm on Pie, no Xposed herr
Are you suggesting it detects "Magisk" as keyword, so renaming the app would work? Or you added these rules in advance and aren't sure they are the key to success?
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Thank you!
Nice, but I'm on Pie, no Xposed herr
Are you suggesting it detects "Magisk" as keyword, so renaming the app would work? Or you added these rules in advance and aren't sure they are the key to success?
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I added the magisk keyword as a precaution. Without xposed, root is detected when if you change the package name and app name..
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I added the magisk keyword as a precaution. Without xposed, root is detected when if you change the package name and app name..
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could you disable the keyword thing, reboot and test it? I have decompiled SecureHub, but the root detections are in native code, so didn't help to see what they detect.
My guess would be it's the app name, if the keyword helps. Then I just need to manually change Magisk app name, because the built-in rebuilding changes package name only.
https://discussions.citrix.com/topi...for-android-that-might-cause-a-security-risk/
Also, this guy should not be shaken hands with :laugh:
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could you disable the keyword thing, reboot and test it? I have decompiled SecureHub, but the root detections are in native code, so didn't help to see what they detect.
My guess would be it's the app name, if the keyword helps. Then I just need to manually change Magisk app name, because the built-in rebuilding changes package name only.
https://discussions.citrix.com/topi...for-android-that-might-cause-a-security-risk/
Also, this guy should not be shaken hands with :laugh:
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Rootcloak works even after deleting magisk from the keywords. But if I delete the rootcloak, quickedit detects root even after changing the package name and app name.
My process to get Secure X working
I've got this working with a fresh install on Nexus 6, TWRP 3.2.3-0, LineageOS 15.1-20181226-nightly-shamu, Magisk Hide (Secure Hub, Secure Mail, Secure Web, installed from play store), Xposed Framwork V90 beta3 with RootCloak 2.1.1 added Secure Hub, Secure Mail, Secure Web. Btw I never opened Secure Hub or apps until Magisk and Xposed where fully configured.
Maybe too much info but its working good for me and thanks for the tips in the thread.
Using the MIUI 10 EU rom right now and I'm still having issues trying to figure out how the app detects root.
App - Chase Mobile Banking App
This doesn't allow me to use reward points, but also does not allow me to add new contacts on their QuickPay Zelle.
The error message that appears is "For your security, the chase mobile app is not available on devices that have been "rooted" or contain malware".
Tried MagiskHide and even hiding the Magisk Manager (renaming it as well) itself to no success. SafetyNet passes and has no issues with other apps. Anyone have any ideas on what to do or what files it looks at?
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Using the MIUI 10 EU rom right now and I'm still having issues trying to figure out how the app detects root.
App - Chase Mobile Banking App
This doesn't allow me to use reward points, but also does not allow me to add new contacts on their QuickPay Zelle.
The error message that appears is "For your security, the chase mobile app is not available on devices that have been "rooted" or contain malware".
Tried MagiskHide and even hiding the Magisk Manager (renaming it as well) itself to no success. SafetyNet passes and has no issues with other apps. Anyone have any ideas on what to do or what files it looks at?
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After hide magisk tick for this app you'll have to reboot. If not working it's possible that this app has a second installed service apk which you have to hide too.
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After hide magisk tick for this app you'll have to reboot. If not working it's possible that this app has a second installed service apk which you have to hide too.
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I tried this option too. Any idea what second service it would fall under? Thanks
This is an old thread, but I also ran into the same problem on my Pixel 4a 5G. In my case, using Magiskhide on the Chase app and renaming Magisk Manager got things working again. I'm also using the 'Universal SafetyNet Fix' Magisk module to keep SafetyNet happy.
However, the problem came up again for me around the time that I started using the Elemental X Kernel. I've returned to my stock Magisk-patched boot.img and Chase seems happy again. Maybe it's related, and maybe not.
You might want to take a look at your root apps and see if uninstalling any of them helps. If you are running a custom kernel, could try returning to your Magisk-patched boot.img too. Once you find out what Chase is detecting, then you may be able to rename/repackage the offending app and be on your way.
Edit: I read in another forum that simply installing the Chase app in Island may work, but I have not tested this. It should work with Shelter as well, since it's essentially the same thing (isolated work-profile app-management). I prefer Shelter myself, and use it to run two instances of the eBay app at the same time.
Edit 2: There is a more current thread here on XDA that has been keeping up with this issue. Anyone looking for the latest info check here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/chase-app-always-detects-root.4099627/
I have the same issue but my phone isn't rooted wtf
Hello, Before I used xposed I used only Magisk and used the hide option with my banking app *Otherwise, it prompts an error and couldn't be used). Now that I've flash xposed, the app shows the same message again, even though I've turned xposed hide... is there a way to fix it?
tnx
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Hello, Before I used xposed I used only Magisk and used the hide option with my banking app *Otherwise, it prompts an error and couldn't be used). Now that I've flash xposed, the app shows the same message again, even though I've turned xposed hide... is there a way to fix it?
tnx
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Use LSPosed instead of EdXposed. It compromises SafetyNet now
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Use LSPosed instead of EdXposed. It compromises SafetyNet now
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Thank you.
So should I unistall xposed manager and removed the modul from Magsik?
Ive download it and now my apps works. However there are a lot of apps that cant be found on this LSposed app.
Can I used xposed app with this app? and if so how?
saar17 said:
Ive download it and now my apps works. However there are a lot of apps that cant be found on this LSposed app.
Can I used xposed app with this app? and if so how?
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You should delete EdXposed from Magisk and flash LSPosed framework instead.
LSPosed has different approach than EdXposed. All apps are blacklisted by default, you have to check those which are to be hooked by a module. Please read this: https://github.com/LSPosed/LSPosed/wiki/How-to-use-it
Additionally, check filters in LSPosed Manager. Possibly you have all system apps hidden.
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Hello, Before I used xposed I used only Magisk and used the hide option with my banking app *Otherwise, it prompts an error and couldn't be used). Now that I've flash xposed, the app shows the same message again, even though I've turned xposed hide... is there a way to fix it?
tnx
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If the user who has used EDXposed has to make sure that there is nothing left in the directory, EDXposed can easily leave the files in the system and directory to cause detection