Hey Guys! I write to know that how can I update my moto x 2nd gen. from lollipop to marshmallow without opening its bootloader or root because I think these two options are not safe and somehow will damage my device. By the way its a verizon variant xt1096. So guys please help me, will be very grateful
Sapper Morton said:
You could update to MM without unlocking the bootloader, unfortunately the XT1096 ( Verizon ) didn't ever received the Stock MM Firmware, so no lucky to you mate.
Flashing Stock firmware from other variants with locked bootloader could become a nightmare very quickly, so I don't recommend doing that.
If you want a phone that is more or less secure, you better be staying on locked state on Lollipop.
Unlocked bootloader + partition encryption is a reasonable security measure for smartphones, but yet is vulnerable to injection of custom binaries due to the unlocked state.
On daily use, you will hardly ever be vulnerable, however you could be exploited if you become a specific target.
Other than that I recommend buying a new phone that supports security updates officially, for a least to the next 2-3 years.
You know your daily life and your priorities, you can decide for yourself.
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Thanks for the advice! I really appreciate your thoughts. Well you said that I can update to marshmallow by flashing other variants firmware without opening my device's bootloader. So how can really do that? By the way I have already tried updating through recovery mode, but it didn't work. So is there any other way to update my device.
I have the Verizon model too, and same situation. Phone still works fine, but I couldn't tolerate being 4 major Android versions behind. Eventually, I bite the bullet, unlocked the boot loader (since device is well out of warranty anyway), flashed a Oreo-based Linage OS ROM, which really brought new life into the phone. Some minor issues here and there but nothing huge. You should be okay if you know what you're doing and backup your stock configuration properly.
Sapper Morton said:
You could flash other variants firmware, however the stock MM doesn't support CDMA, only GSM.
With locked bootloader you will only get your XT1096 to work on non-verizon carriers, or partially work on verizon, since they don't use CDMA exclusively anymore.
There was a modded stock MM OS in the past, made to work on verizon network, unfortunately, you need an unlocked bootloader to flash it.
In case you should consider unlocking your bootloader, I recommend flashing the LineageOS 14.1, Android 7.1.2.
Any AOSP ROM, based on CM13, Android 6.0.1, should support CDMA and GSM from the source.
In which case, the Lineage 14.1 supports it, and it has the latest security patches, as I said before, using /data encryption on a unlocked state, is a reasonable security measure you should consider, that way, anyone that may get hands on your device will be unable to read the data, being naive.
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Thanks once again for your time! Actually I am not on CDMA, I'm using GSM network. So how can update to marshmallow now and I prefer stock marshmallow rather than custom or any other roms. So please guide me in that.
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Hi all, I was wondering if it would be less of a hassle to keep my BL unlocked Moto X stock until Lollipop OTA comes out OR if it might actually be harder to install recovery, root, etc when 5.0 is on the phone? IIRC KK made some changes that caused hassles on rooting, recovery install for some phones. I have Dev Edition, thanks
Although lollipop is making it difficult to root, you would still be able to unlock your BL on lollipop. Since it appears you don't have a need to root right now, I would just wait until lollipop. The reason to wait is if you install a recovery or freeze apps, you won't be able to install OTA until you restore stock recovery etc.
As long as you have an unlocked / unlockable BL, you will always be able to install a custom recovery / root.
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Hi all, I was wondering if it would be less of a hassle to keep my BL unlocked Moto X stock until Lollipop OTA comes out OR if it might actually be harder to install recovery, root, etc when 5.0 is on the phone? IIRC KK made some changes that caused hassles on rooting, recovery install for some phones. I have Dev Edition, thanks
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it depends.
With an unlocked bootloader we should continue to be able to flash a custom recovery, and custom rom.
However, there are several unknowns right now, including when will we see Lollipop for the X? Which variant of the 2013 X (Dev vs ATT vs VZW vs Sprint, etc) will get it first? When will soak tests start? When will the carriers finally push it, etc?
Then we don't know how hard or easy it will be to root. At first a custom kernel was needed to root Lollipop, but now it seems Chainfire has found away around that http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...w-to-root-lollipop-without-a-modified-kernel/ Until we see L on a 2013 X, we wont know for sure.
In any case, its always less hassle to keep your phone STOCK if you want to take an OTA. The OTA's need stock recovery on the phone in order to install. Also, diverting from stock can mean changes which will cause the OTA's pre-flash validation checks to fail, and the OTA to not install.
US Cellular is STILL on 4.4.2 lol 5.0 seems a hundred miles away still. Glad I'm unlocked, rooted and stock (Xposed Gravitybox) best combo IMHO.
I posted this on reddit before the update was out but didn't get much info. Hopefully I find better luck here.
So I bought a Moto X 2013 in January. It was fairly new. The person I bought it from had unlocked the bootloader, flashed TWRP and rooted the phone.
Later I noticed the model number on the back of the phone is XT1049, ( Republic Wireless version) but the actual version running on the phone is XT1053 (T-mobile version). Also noticed that MotorolaOTA is disabled. The phone is also SIM-unlocked because I use a GSM SIM with it.
What I want to find out is how exactly to go about updating to 5.1?
I keep reading that flashing another carrier's firmware could brick you device. In this case, will flashing the xt1053 stock firmware on a phone that is originally xt1049 brick my phone?
Do I download and flash the XT1053 ota zip ? Do I disable MotorolaOTA?
I have X-posed installed as well. I would like o know how to disable that completely too .
So what's the safest way for me to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 5.1?
Thanks
kwvme said:
I posted this on reddit before the update was out but didn't get much info. Hopefully I find better luck here.
So I bought a Moto X 2013 in January. It was fairly new. The person I bought it from had unlocked the bootloader, flashed TWRP and rooted the phone.
Later I noticed the model number on the back of the phone is XT1049, ( Republic Wireless version) but the actual version running on the phone is XT1053 (T-mobile version). Also noticed that MotorolaOTA is disabled. The phone is also SIM-unlocked because I use a GSM SIM with it.
What I want to find out is how exactly to go about updating to 5.1?
I keep reading that flashing another carrier's firmware could brick you device. In this case, will flashing the xt1053 stock firmware on a phone that is originally xt1049 brick my phone?
Do I download and flash the XT1053 ota zip ? Do I disable MotorolaOTA?
I have X-posed installed as well. I would like o know how to disable that completely too .
So what's the safest way for me to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 5.1?
Thanks
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Flash back to stock 4.4.2 then OTA to 4.4.4.
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Flash back to stock 4.4.2 then OTA to 4.4.4.
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I've been asked not to OTA.
Apparently the guy "flashed the Retail US factory image and flashed the Republic Wireless/Sprint radio files for the modem to work"
Even if I were to do this, which stock firmware would I use, the XT1049 or the XT1053 one?
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I've been asked not to OTA.
Apparently the guy "flashed the Retail US factory image and flashed the Republic Wireless/Sprint radio files for the modem to work"
Even if I were to do this, which stock firmware would I use, the XT1049 or the XT1053 one?
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Because the OTA is based off the strings contained in the /system partition, it would get the Retail US OTA.
BUT If you have mixed up parts of modems and roms, DO NOT Take an OTA.
First it will likely fail the pre-flash validation checks (due to wrong parts being on there), next if for some reason it doesn't fail and proceeds with flashing, you'll end up with ALL parts of the Retail XT1053 rom on there.
Finally, since its an XT1049, the SIM UNLOCK hack was likely used, and I'm not sure if that would survive flashing. And its unknown at this time if it will survive upgrade to Lollipop.
KidJoe said:
Because the OTA is based off the strings contained in the /system partition, it would get the Retail US OTA.
BUT If you have mixed up parts of modems and roms, DO NOT Take an OTA.
First it will likely fail the pre-flash validation checks (due to wrong parts being on there), next if for some reason it doesn't fail and proceeds with flashing, you'll end up with ALL parts of the Retail XT1053 rom on there.
Finally, since its an XT1049, the SIM UNLOCK hack was likely used, and I'm not sure if that would survive flashing. And its unknown at this time if it will survive upgrade to Lollipop.
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So you're saying I'm stuck on 4.4.2?
I have attached a pic of my about phone section. The baseband version is different from other XT1053s.
Someone said I should be able to flash just the system partition without affecting anything else. How true is that? They also suggested flashing the RW 4.4.4 image and wait to OTA. But I was concerned about GSM usability with that.
Finally, it would seem my best option would be to flash the TWRP xt1053 backup, but the reports of bugs is putting me off.
I'd really like to get lollipop and remain using the xt1053 software if I can. Thanks
kwvme said:
So you're saying I'm stuck on 4.4.2?
I have attached a pic of my about phone section. The baseband version is different from other XT1053s.
Someone said I should be able to flash just the system partition without affecting anything else. How true is that? They also suggested flashing the RW 4.4.4 image and wait to OTA. But I was concerned about GSM usability with that.
Finally, it would seem my best option would be to flash the TWRP xt1053 backup, but the reports of bugs is putting me off.
I'd really like to get lollipop and remain using the xt1053 software if I can. Thanks
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Because you have an XT1049 model and are trying to use XT1053 firmware it gets complicated. Also, the XT1049 hardware was SIM/Carrier locked, and there was a hack to unlock it (it was the only way to sim unlock it). I don't know if that SIM unlock hack survives flashing different versions, etc. So I really don't want to advise you and have you get SIM locked.
If the baseband is different than other XT1053's its possible that you are runing a mix of XT1049 radios/modems with other parts of the XT1053 rom. So taking an upgrade in this state is risky. It could fail or even brick your phone. A mix like that is probably why the Moto OTA updater was disabled/frozen.
I personally haven't had much luck mixing parts from roms for two different phones, and I usually don't advise it due to potential side effects, as well as potential issues when trying to flash back to the stock rom for your model/carrier.
As for flashing just the /System partition, that is pretty much what restoring the lollipop backups are doing. At that point, /SYSTEM doesn't match the partition table, bootloader, trusted zone, and other components which could also cause other bugs while running (speaker phone bug reported by those using the TWRP lollipop back apparently doesn't exist on those that took the full update).
My advise... stay put.
If you really want to upgrade... WAIT. First ask in the thread talking about the Sprint/RW SIM Unlock Crack if there are any conditions on upgrading after you SIM unlock. I would also ask about any risks or impacts from flashing back to STOCK RW ROM in that thread, or using another carrier's rom. Finally, I'd wait on flashing anything until BOTH Republic Wireless and XT1053 5.1 SBF files are available... and then proceed. You may need to flash RW 5.1, then flash /system from XT1053's 5.1 rom. BUT i'm not 100% sure it will work, and wont SIM unlock you, so I'm not saying you'll be successful (because I don't know)
I unlocked the bootloader on my XT1096 (verizon) Moto X 2014. Currently running stock 5.1 ROM.
What's the best way to get Marshmallow on? Can I use a ROM from another model? Do I need to flash a recovery? Thanks.
jonnythan said:
I unlocked the bootloader on my XT1096 (verizon) Moto X 2014. Currently running stock 5.1 ROM.
What's the best way to get Marshmallow on? Can I use a ROM from another model? Do I need to flash a recovery? Thanks.
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The only way to get Marshmallow on a verizon would be with a custom rom that supports CDMA. I know that CM13 supporta CDMA so that one would work.
And while yes you could flash the rom from another model like the xt1095, it would lose verizon signal since the other models are GSM instead of CDMA.
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tomas1pit said in the bootloader unlock thread:
"if u want to convert your device dont forget about NON-HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn. That is modem files. U should take them from official 5.1 image for xt1097 otherwise your network wont work"
Would I be able to flash the XT1095 stock MM image and then copy those files over, retaining Verizon signal?
jonnythan said:
tomas1pit said in the bootloader unlock thread:
"if u want to convert your device dont forget about NON-HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn. That is modem files. U should take them from official 5.1 image for xt1097 otherwise your network wont work"
Would I be able to flash the XT1095 stock MM image and then copy those files over, retaining Verizon signal?
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tomas1pit is incorrect, if you look in other threads of people that have unlocked bootloaders with verizon, they lose signal completely if they convert to another model. He does not realize that xt1096 is CDMA, the NON-HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn apply to GSM.
You can still get signal if you change to another model, but only if you put a sim chip in your phone for AT&T, T-Mobile, etc since those companies are GSM. The problem is that switching firmware makes it incompatible with verizon.
If you plan to stay with verizon, custom roms are your only choice. If you change to a GSM company then you can use the stock firmware from another model.
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Roger. Thanks.
It took a few tries to get TWRP on... I had to use crpalmer's custom version, the regular version didn't work. I'll hunt around for a custom ROM. If anyone has any suggestions (as close to stock Android as possible) I'd appreciate it.
jonnythan said:
Roger. Thanks.
It took a few tries to get TWRP on... I had to use crpalmer's custom version, the regular version didn't work. I'll hunt around for a custom ROM. If anyone has any suggestions (as close to stock Android as possible) I'd appreciate it.
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No problem. Your best bet would be to read the custom rom threads and see if any say they support cdma. Or post in the thread to ask the developer if it does.
The only one I know for sure works with verizon is CM13, since I have read that some verizon users have tried it and it worked for them. I assume that roms that are based off CM might work, but you know what they say about assuming... Anyway good luck finding a rom you like.
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I unlocked the bootloader on Verizon xt1096 Android 5.1, installed latest twrp recovery and installed SuperSU and am rooted. Woot. Twrp is super useful! I'd just be careful with what you're flashing of course.
I couldn't get official TWRP to work, but this custom version worked for me:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4wbyl4ge807r31/openrecovery-20150308-victara-UNOFFICIAL.img?dl=0
After I installed TWRP, I just flashed SuperSU and got root.
jonnythan said:
I couldn't get official TWRP to work, but this custom version worked for me:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4wbyl4ge807r31/openrecovery-20150308-victara-UNOFFICIAL.img?dl=0
After I installed TWRP, I just flashed SuperSU and got root.
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Have you tried flashing any roms yet for marshmallow?
pianoman102 said:
Have you tried flashing any roms yet for marshmallow?
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I haven't had time yet.
Same situation. Just recently unlocked the bootloader on my XT1096 (Verizon Moto X 2). Trying to figure out how to get to Marshmallow (stock or rooted) but with Verizon radios. Can't seem to find XT1096/Verizon radios in a flashable zip.
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mtoomey79 said:
I then took the OTA upgrade to 5.0 which totally hard bricked it.
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So yeah @jonnythan if you want to help me unbrick my phone...
If there's anything I can do to help, I'd be happy to. There's probably not much I can do, though.
jonnythan said:
If there's anything I can do to help, I'd be happy to. There's probably not much I can do, though.
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Just a little humor. I have reached out to KidJoe here for some help. I also reached out to MotoCare and they are sending me a new MotoX (for me to tinker with some more).
I would suggest that we need to find a way to get the XT1096 to XT1095, while keeping factory bootloader to accept future OTAs. The VZW radios are out there, just will need to flash them via ADB if/when new OTAs come though.
So for right now, no other custom rom will work with the xt1096 unless somebody makes it specifically or customizes a different rom to suit it right?
CM13 and derived ROMS should work. There are other non-Marshmallow ROMs, I think.
jonnythan said:
I couldn't get official TWRP to work, but this custom version worked for me:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4wbyl4ge807r31/openrecovery-20150308-victara-UNOFFICIAL.img?dl=0
After I installed TWRP, I just flashed SuperSU and got root.
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Where did you get this? All the official TWRP builds throw a mismatched partition size error and won't install.
If I understand correctly, if I'm not using the phone on Verizon I can install any ROM?
crpalmer posted it in the CM12 thread.
I was able to get the latest TWRP installed. Took a few attempts.
i flashed mine with twrp it said the same thing when i fastbbot flashed it but it worked i just booted in recovery any ways and it worked
Hello Everyone,
My dads Moto X 1st Gen Dev Edition started crapping out a while ago and I switched him to an Iphone. Long story short, his Phone/Apps was crashing all day long, even after restore/reformat same thing would happen without anything installed we attempted Upgrading the System OS without any luck. After a few months of being in storage, I tried using it now myself as a dedicated car phone just to use with my OBD2 stuff to view real time status of the car. Unfortunately, even with my different google account , restoring fresh OS can't even use the standard OS, since everything is always crashing and doesn't allow me to install anything from app store. I attempted to Upgrade once again no luck whatsoever.
It seems the only way I can upgrade this or get a clean system is by downloading something manually or so? But google has not been able to give me any results to download an OS for it and transfer it over.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Anyone ?
trying new stock rom with be correct build number
hessamx said:
trying new stock rom with be correct build number
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Where can I get it from ?
I've tried searching online for stock rom and no luck
You specified that the device is a developer edition, but is it the XT1060 (for Verizon) or XT1053 (GSM)? I think those are the only two models.
Either way you can find the stock firmware here and here.
If you haven't unlocked your bootloader yet I think you must in order to access fastboot commands. (Even if you don't need it, what's the point in keeping the bootloader locked on a developer's edition device)? Anyway, you can do that with the information here.
Be sure not to flash incompatible firmware (e.g. if you are on bootloader version 30.BE never flash with a previous version)!
PiArc said:
You specified that the device is a developer edition, but is it the XT1060 (for Verizon) or XT1053 (GSM)? I think those are the only two models.
Either way you can find the stock firmware here and here.
If you haven't unlocked your bootloader yet I think you must in order to access fastboot commands. (Even if you don't need it, what's the point in keeping the bootloader locked on a developer's edition device)? Anyway, you can do that with the information here.
Be sure not to flash incompatible firmware (e.g. if you are on bootloader version 30.BE never flash with a previous version)!
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Apologize for not specifying, yes it is the XT1060 Verizon version.
Thank you for the links I will follow up today
This is one of two phones I'm looking to buy after work today to replace the Verizon S5 I broke last night. Wanting to make sure whatever I get can be bootloader unlocked and fully rooted, otherwise I'm just getting another S5 so I can continue using CM ROM.
Thanks!
i think yes following this steps
1-root it using pinpong root
2-unlock the boot loader using ADB on pc
3-install twrp
4-install SU
watch the video it did it with a note 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoxWDDEFJxQ
johnnyrichter said:
This is one of two phones I'm looking to buy after work today to replace the Verizon S5 I broke last night. Wanting to make sure whatever I get can be bootloader unlocked and fully rooted, otherwise I'm just getting another S5 so I can continue using CM ROM.
Thanks!
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No.
No bootloader unlock at all.
Therefore no non stock based custom roms.
Root is available via ping-pong on very early lollipop builds, but unless you specifically know you are getting an old, non updated device, it's not likely this will be an option. Some newer builds of lollipop can be rooted by a tethered method. There is a root method for some MM builds. Think one is under development that has yet to be confirmed or released for N.
Very strongly do not recommend ATT version of this device if rooting and custom ROM's are important to you.
If you're looking at an international, rather than att model, then you're in the wrong forum.