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Besides the possible issue with the front camera, would it run as well?
Unluckily, CM is still supporting "just" the OP3...
With the foundation for the OP3 and 3T being so similar, I'm sure we will get it eventually. My guess is Devs are waiting for Nougat to drop before investing their time.
I am asking whether flashing op3 cm on a op3t will work.
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I am asking whether flashing op3 cm on a op3t will work.
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No.
Please search the forum as this has been talked about a couple times now
Don't even try! Kernel base, ramdisk and plenty of other stuff doesn't match, cm is waiting for the nougat, they even stopped cm13 development on op3
Sent from my Darkside of Oneplus 3T
Every phone has slightly different hardware. Even if it did work you could either underwhelm your system or over whelm it. One kills performance and the other kills hardware. Only time it's acceptable if the two phones are the same but have different bands or something. Then usually a flash with another modem flash can work.
Dear OnePlus 3t owners,
Is it sensible to buy a new OP3T after OP decided to kill updates post-O?
On this device, easy root, no updates but plenty of community support.
On others (S8, XZ Premium, other mainstream flagships), loss of features with root, somewhat more updates with less community support.
Please help me take my decision, and any and all help is greatly appreciated!
It depends if you want a phone to play around and mod or you want a phone to have longer updates although longer updates are not a guarantee in any brand even Google promises updates for 2 years only. 3t is still a pretty good device and I think we'll have good dev support for atleast a couple of years
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No update ? Hmm, don't know where you see this, OpenBeta 13 has just been release today.
Personally, I bought the OnePlus 3T like one week ago for 350e on Ebay, very happy with with.
Before it, I bought a OnePlus 5 day one, and, well, if I'm here today, it's because I was very disappointed (*cough* Jelly Effect *cough* ), and I bought the OnePlus 3T because I need a new device right now: I prepare a trip in South Korea, and need a new device to replace the time bomb OnePlus 2 (sorry about my life topic).
I share the idea about the fact that the OnePlus 3T was the true Flagship Killer: low price for very good specs.
You can see that the device is still in top 3 devices on XDA (behind Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ and LG G6), and for me, it's an indicator that the OnePlus 3T still has a bright future.
So yeah, OnePlus won't update the OnePlus 3T after Android O (but still security update tho), but he, we are on XDA, so plenty of custom ROMs available!
After all, I can't either ""force"" you to buy or not the OnePlus 3T. It depends on multiple points
-How many you want to put in your phone ?
-What is a good smartphone for you ?
-Do you care about officials updates of custom ROMs is ok for you ?
1. No updates: I actually meant "no major version updates".
2. So you have bought the 5 and saw that the 3T was better in comparison?
3. Are custom ROMs stable as stock on this device? (My 1st OP device, hope ROMs are as stable as stock to the contrary of Samsung)
4. Is the camera on custom ROMs any good (as in decent) without camera blobs from OnePlus?
Thanks for your advice! I'm actually biased towards buying the device but I have had my reservations
Well, I'm a tinkerer but I really prefer more updates as I do prefer longevity (3-4 years of college, not enough $$$ to spend on phones). Thank you a lot!
I don't think it'll matter. Android O will be a nice send off and I think said that they'll provide security updates also. The community will support this phone for many android revisions and groups/people like PA or Sultan got the same camera quality on their AOSP roms
Also, you said that you bought the 3T to replace your "time-bomb" OP2. How is the 2 a time bomb exactly? And could the 3T become one too?
I'm content with the device on O but as soon as P rolls out a problem arises. Community ROMs are not exactly stable (coming from Samsung, no idea w/ OP3T though) and I've read somewhere that PA and/or Sultan received the blobs from OP through bribery or something ... What do you think?
So you have bought the 5 and saw that the 3T was better in comparison?
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Jelly Effect is a deal breaker for me. Search for it on internet, you will see.
Are custom ROMs stable as stock on this device?
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For now, I don't know. I just flash a custom kernel on my device, but still under OxygenOS for now.
Is the camera on custom ROMs any good (as in decent) without camera blobs from OnePlus?
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As I said, I don't know. But some recognized devs build ROMs which camera which seems to be as good as stock one (such as SultanXDA's ROM or ParanoidAndroid)
Also, you said that you bought the 3T to replace your "time-bomb" OP2. How is the 2 a time bomb exactly? And could the 3T become one too?
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The OnePlus 2 was produced with the Snapdragon 810, which is, let's be honest, a sh*t. My user experience with it was pretty bad. Also, I don't know if you saw, but the Nexus 6P (which also has the Snapdragon 810) is victims of problems with this processor: actually, some users have a phone which can't even boot anymore. A user find a solution, but actually, the phone now uses 4 cores (the little cluster) instead of 8 (little + big cluster): I don't want the OnePlus 2 to ends like this, so I bought a new phone, just to be sure.
Aaaaand I f*cked up my answer. Of course, this posts contains answer to your questions @WaseemAlkurdi
Custom roms are far more stable on the 3t then on Samsung devices. Less hacking needed.
Updates are kinda over rated at this point. With the 3t you can just build it yourself. Though I would avoid Los based or PA based roms. Those tend to have the most issues with things like instability.
Think of it this way: would you buy this phone and use it as is, or would you out a custom ROM on it?
It might not get any updates from UP after O, but it's gonna get at least 3 more years of support from Lineage and others.
There are a plethora of "stable" custom built ROMs by several very talented developers.
To say that community ROMs are not stable is an EXTREMELY uninformed comment.
I've been running some form of a custom ROM for the past 7 years over a a multitude of phones following well known developers that in my opinion and experience put out better device software than the factory.
If you do choose the OP3T, you'll not be disappointed as it's a quality device with excellent community support.
Like could I build "OxygenOS P" myself?
And if LOS and PA ROMs aren't stable, is AOSP so? And that makes for a tradeoff for camera quality, as an earlier comment said that camera is the best on PA and Sultan (Sultan's being LOS based AFAIK)
@giant22000
Seems like it's going to be the OnePlus 3t after all, and what remains to be done is convincing my dad that an unknown China OEM (in local market's view - not our view) can make solid hardware.
"To say that community ROMs are not stable is an EXTREMELY uninformed comment."
This is relative. Coming from various Samsung devices, namely the Galaxy Grand 2 and the Galaxy Star (the crappiest device known to mankind) and servicing others including flagship models, it does happen that custom ROMs are, to say the best, variable in stability, ranging from crappiest (CM on the Galaxy S Duos and on the Star) to semi-stable (the stuff on high-end phones.
@ast00
I am a tinkerer by nature, no Android phone is mine unless the bootloader is unlocked, custom ROM, kernel, overclock, and later on, development.
I am only concerned about official updates as this may mean eventually being deserted by the community. Is this the case here?
@casual_kikoo
Thanks for your detailed answers!
Yes AOSP tend to be more stable then the other two. Just look at the thread and you will see issues with bootloops and other things. Yet AOSP based roms do not suffer from this.
The camera is good enough no matter the range. I tested both and to be honest it made little difference.
No you are not gonna build Oxygen OS as it is closed source but then again why would you want to?
Stability, mate. Heard that OOS is the most stable, then comes AOSP, then comes LOS.
And if it were possible to build OOS, the update issue would be fixed of course. But alas, it isn't possible, as you said.
No. Most ROMs run on the 3 and the 3T. I mean you flash the same zip for both phones.
This is good because our community is the size of 2 phone's communities. You will have plenty of support later on.
Take nexus 5 as example, its still getting regular rom updates such as PA or lineage, this device will be no different.. it will receive android updates from xda community for a long time
Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
Hello jcole20
That would be awesome if some devs started doing something with the RP2! If I had the knowledge, I would!! I've had the RP2 since June of this year. I had some issues with it at first but they have been worked out. I really like the phone and it would be cool to see some devs show the RP2 some love lol. Hopefully you can get something started! Take care!
Dennis
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Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
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I am sure people would love to see some device specific development. I have read that since the release of project treble most people just flash the system image from other roms. I specifically would love to see a stockish rom so I don't loose chroma but still get updated security patches.
I ordered this phone from amazon to try out. I am checking out the community and stuff in the 10 day trial period they give you. I really like the phone... i just hate the software side of things. I feel like its super premium hardware with outdated software... that probably isnt even going to get security patches. Anyway... off to see whats available.
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I ordered this phone from amazon to try out. I am checking out the community and stuff in the 10 day trial period they give you. I really like the phone... i just hate the software side of things. I feel like its super premium hardware with outdated software... that probably isnt even going to get security patches. Anyway... off to see whats available.
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Most functionalities work on Pie GSIs out-of-box (you need to manually install ims.apk in order to receive SMS while on LTE, see relevant threads here, or look for it on some GSI threads such as Havoc 2.9). exFAT also works on supported GSI (with arter97's kernel), while it's not supported on stock. The only problems I have so far are bluetooth-related, and also the inability to set SELinux to permissive (not sure which might be the real cause as arter97 stated the SELinux could be permissive).
Bluetooth media audio doesn't work at all on GSI, partly due to the crippling overlays (which prevents aptX from working, and probably some other limitations). Phone calls work with a bluetooth headset, but for some reasons I couldn't properly route phone calls to my Huawei Watch 2 (which means I always have to take the call from my phone directly).
Given the mostly positive result with numerous GSIs (and that some users are happy with stock ROM, or stock-based ROM modifications), active ROM developments for the device itself doesn't seem to be at a high priority (as some might be able to contribute patches for this device to their favorite GSI instead)...
I'm currently working on my own build of LOS. I haven't seen to much active development either I'm new to rom building but looks like we could use all the help we can get!
I think the only active dev we have for this phone is Arter97's kernel and people tinkering with GSIs to get them working as they should. I wish there was more being done with the stock ROM because I like a lot of it's features, but am having a hard time dealing with it's overall instability. I'd be happy to help develop or test in whatever way I can, though.
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Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
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Yeah, it’s definitely just total lack of interest from other devs. We even have a guy with a prototype Razer Phone 2 with an intact DRM partition and unlocked bootloader (Allowing Netflix HD and Vudu HDX) but we couldn’t even pay anyone to try to port it.
I think if we had a fully working AOSP tree that it would possibly bring other devs into the scene. Who knows though, it has never been a popular device despite how great it is.
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Noob question:
Do we have to wait for a stock Android 10 for the device to be able to flash Android 10 GSIs?
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Noob question:
Do we have to wait for a stock Android 10 for the device to be able to flash Android 10 GSIs?
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A stock Android 10 (which means a stock vendor image for Android 10) is not necessarily required to have a usable Android 10 ROM (though it may speed up the development to some extent, if it does have one), but for GSI, having a stock Android 10 vendor image can be better (currently it's a hit-or-miss on existing Android 10 GSIs).
Another device that I have, Google Pixel C, never had stock Android 9 (so never had stock vendor images for Android 9, only for up to Android 8.1), but custom Android 9 ROMs are already available (thanks to followmsi's efforts) and are working well. For Android 9 ROMs, the build system builds new vendor images along with system image.
It's just whether we're going to see our device's trees being made possible, so we can start from there to develop our own custom ROMs. The existing materials might be a good starting point in making trees.
- Working with proprietary blobs (from Lineage)
- arter97's kernel (can be useful for making a kernel tree, though one can also consider using stock kernel source as a base)
- Razer factory images and kernel sources (for studying stock ROM/kernel details, and extracting necessary system and vendor blobs)
If you can port LineageOS to this device, great!
I don't understand why people aren't flocking to this device. I came from the LG G6 that probably will be stuck on Oreo forever that is way more popular. The RP2 is cheap, has killer specs + a micro SD card slot + a newer version of Android. Should be a developers dream, you would think. *shrug*
Not sure if anyone's active on this device at present. With RP2's 9.0 MR2 available on the official factory images page the latest proprietary blobs (as well as stock kernel source) are now publicly accessible.
Actually arter97 once mentioned that his RP2 kernel is almost inline with his OP6 kernel (which is also sdm845 and shares some similarities), so it's possible that OP6 (enchilada) trees may be a good starting point, but I'm not sure if any configurations are needed to keep 120Hz working as high refresh rate is relatively uncommon.
My time is very limited so I won't be able to dedicate too much time to experiment on this. At present most functionalities work fine with GSI (including Bluetooth, although tricky and aptX still not working).
IDK how relevant this is anymore but as a new razor phone 2 user to be soon I have been keeping up and it seems that @f(x)THaxxorX could be a possible candidate of what you're looking for I've been keeping up with development on the phone seems like he is doing pretty well even if we get patched gsi which properly work is better than nothing.
Hello,
Anyone try a gsi rom on the OP10 Pro ?
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Hello,
Anyone try a gsi rom on the OP10 Pro ?
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where did you find it?
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where did you find it?
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I check with treble app and choose all rom available on gsi github
I have yet to try it but the phh gsi aosp one has fixes for booting snapdragon 8 gen 1.
Search the A/B ROMs on xda... There's a pixel experience one that looks promising
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GSIs on OP10Pro
With an unlocked BL, flash an ARM64 AB GSI within fastbootd, format userdata from recovery, reboot, profit. vbmeta should only be needed if you do Magisk. Google GSIs simply boot; PHH-based ones (which are ones people will actually want to use)...
forum.xda-developers.com
Not a good experience though, I can't quite get the overlay and 2K resolution to work consistently, let alone common bugs like VoLTE and FP.
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GSIs on OP10Pro
With an unlocked BL, flash an ARM64 AB GSI within fastbootd, format userdata from recovery, reboot, profit. vbmeta should only be needed if you do Magisk. Google GSIs simply boot; PHH-based ones (which are ones people will actually want to use)...
forum.xda-developers.com
Not a good experience though, I can't quite get the overlay and 2K resolution to work consistently, let alone common bugs like VoLTE and FP.
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Yea I think this is the problem with treble, the concept was nice but each device needs it's own support, having one image for every device is a problem in itself
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Yea I think this is the problem with treble, the concept was nice but each device needs it's own support, having one image for every device is a problem in itself
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This being a OnePlus "x Pro" flagship, I'm sure it'll get device-specific ROMs shortly. Me working with PHH to boot on it is more to clear the way for other more obscure SM8450 devices.
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This being a OnePlus "x Pro" flagship, I'm sure it'll get device-specific ROMs shortly. Me working with PHH to boot on it is more to clear the way for other more obscure SM8450 devices.
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If he'll work with you on the specifics then great.... Problem for me with treble is what I've said above.. If you ask a question in that forum it's swallowed almost immediately, so for an end user it's not exactly intuitive or even helpful in a traditional ROM owner/flasher sense of the word..
Information for specific devices simply doesn't exist. So it becomes a minefield for the end user.
Could be done a lot better, that's why so many people just don't bother with them.
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If he'll work with you on the specifics then great.... Problem for me with treble is what I've said above.. If you ask a question in that forum it's swallowed almost immediately, so for an end user it's not exactly intuitive or even helpful in a traditional ROM owner/flasher sense of the word..
Information for specific devices simply doesn't exist. So it becomes a minefield for the end user.
Could be done a lot better, that's why so many people just don't bother with them.
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I myself am also the type who doesn't care about all the specifics - even on my daily driver with GSI, I leave VoLTE and some other problems unfixed. Also, I don't actually own that OP10Pro, I just had it briefly.
An actual owner/user here might care, but before he figures out (or finds out he can't fix everything), I bet a device-specific ROM would've already come out. A rare case/device where running a GSI isn't worth the trouble, if you ask me.
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I myself am also the type who doesn't care about all the specifics - even on my daily driver with GSI, I leave VoLTE and some other problems unfixed. Also, I don't actually own that OP10Pro, I just had it briefly.
An actual owner/user here might care, but before he figures out (or finds out he can't fix everything), I bet a device-specific ROM would've already come out. A rare case/device where running a GSI isn't worth the trouble, if you ask me.
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Yea i agree, it's just a shame as the content is actually there, I could live without certain things myself. Volte I'm not overly fond of tbh..
I just find the whole thing more troublesome to just get info on treble ROMs.
I had a P20 Pro prior to the 8 pro and GSI ROMs would have been a god send so I'm sure there are a tonne of people out there who could use them..
I'd hope that it would be clearer but it's been so long now that I doubt that'll ever happen..
It's good you're working with pph. I hope that info you gather will be useful to others
I've tried to flash the latest phhusson
AOSP 12.1 v413 It's booting up, but you can't call someone (connection is dead). IMS Network is not supported. And no fingerprint and no auto brighness. Not usable right now
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I've tried to flash the latest phhusson
AOSP 12.1 v413It's booting up, but you can't call someone (connection is dead). IMS Network is not supported. And no fingerprint and no auto brighness. Not usable right now
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I can't comment mate. I think you're very brave. You should make a thread based on your experience..
Document the crap out of it.
Share the hell of it.
This is needed for every OnePlus 10 pro owner, do it
it's very easy: don't use GSI right now ;-)
Aww dang. I really want some customization here. Having to restart everyday cause slow downs suck
Hello,
I've been missing for quite a long time from XDA, but I'm about to get a new phone soon (maybe another OnePlus?) and I came here to check for new custom ROMs updates.
But it seems I cannot find any custom ROM for the OnePlus 10 Pro (yet?), why is that?
Thanks for the info.
No msm unbrick tool, no sources and so on.
Oneplus sucks every phone a little bit more! 10 pro is definitely my last OP phone
You can try GSI roms, but they're buggy (e.g. fingerprint sensor is not working)
Also you cannot unbrick your phone unless you send it to 1+ which makes development hard
Source tree is different default compilable sources.i hope someone could port it.
All of the above! Everything is different now a days with "all" OEM's, Google, Carrier's, etc.
But if some motivated Developers get the device, then who knows what mods will come our way....
Also, Magisk Modules are the modding wave !
Cheers
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All of the above! Everything is different now a days with "all" OEM's, Google, Carrier's, etc.
But if some motivated Developers get the device, then who knows what mods will come our way....
Also, Magisk Modules are the modding wave !
Cheers
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What mods are you using mate?
There are already custom ROM for Xiaomi 12/Pro which also use Snapdragon 8 gen 1 so maybe there's luck but OnePlus sources are lacking and I asked Luke1337 and he is not interested in blind building since he ain't got the device.
See a my reply to other post on oneplus 10 pro
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There are already custom ROM for Xiaomi 12/Pro which also use Snapdragon 8 gen 1 so maybe there's luck but OnePlus sources are lacking and I asked Luke1337 and he is not interested in blind building since he ain't got the device.
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İ can't found it .could u share for me .it has same tree our devices i could work it.
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İ can't found it .could u share for me .it has same tree our devices i could work it.
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There's a telegram group, check the pinned posts
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t.me
I've found this: https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_msm-5.10_oneplus_sm8450
And this: https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_modules_and_devicetree_oneplus_sm8450
But, sadly, I've also read this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-not-to-guide.4458091/post-87108519
It's truly a sad time to be an android user....
But i've got a little thought in the back of my head that i can't shake, i think things will change.
No idea how it'll happen, may take a while, maybe after the release of the T / R 10 devices.
Time will tell, but yep it's certainly a crap time for Android; when a google flagship and oneplus devices don't have a single official ROM (pixel has AOSP unofficial afaik) it's time to re-evaluate your purchases a lot more carefully.
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It's truly a sad time to be an android user....
But i've got a little thought in the back of my head that i can't shake, i think things will change.
No idea how it'll happen, may take a while, maybe after the release of the T / R 10 devices.
Time will tell, but yep it's certainly a crap time for Android; when a google flagship and oneplus devices don't have a single official ROM (pixel has AOSP unofficial afaik) it's time to re-evaluate your purchases a lot more carefully.
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Yeah, I remember the old times here on XDA, there was so many threads proposing many different flavors.
I used to flash and try new ROMs almost everyday...
Now I have to get a new phone, I came here to check and I've realized it all changed.
It's even hard to find ROMs for Google Pixels and OnePlus phones, I don't know what happened but it's kinda frustrating...
Guys just relax and give some time for developers.good news for sm8450 chipset is someone ported device and vendor tree for Xiaomi phones.i hope not far our phones .just relax.
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Guys just relax and give some time for developers.good news for sm8450 chipset is someone ported device and vendor tree for Xiaomi phones.i hope not far our phones .just relax.
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Honestly mate, I've had enough phones to know that it should have happened by now.
I'm very patient, no problem in waiting, but every single OnePlus device has had several ROMs by this point bar none
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Guys just relax and give some time for developers.good news for sm8450 chipset is someone ported device and vendor tree for Xiaomi phones.i hope not far our phones .just relax.
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Don't worry, we are just talking and comforting each other...
But well, I remember ROMs used to be posted here (almost) even before phones were available to be bought.
And since it seems that Google Pixels too lack of ROMs, I have a feelings things has changed lately somehow... but we all hope you are right man!
Why do you need google roms? are they better?
Otherwise it finds 2-3 threads about to change to global or EU version.
But that is not you want?
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Don't worry, we are just talking and comforting each other...
But well, I remember ROMs used to be posted here (almost) even before phones were available to be bought.
And since it seems that Google Pixels too lack of ROMs, I have a feelings things has changed lately somehow... but we all hope you are right man!
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Google has made a lot of changes to the OS that just make everything a headache for custom ROM devs so that's not helping. The writing is on the wall for the Android ROM community and once Google finally forces hardware attestation the inability to easily hide root or unlocked bootloaders at all will kill off a lot more interest. The future of mobile phones is one of two separate walled gardens.
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Google has made a lot of changes to the OS that just make everything a headache for custom ROM devs so that's not helping. The writing is on the wall for the Android ROM community and once Google finally forces hardware attestation the inability to easily hide root or unlocked bootloaders at all will kill off a lot more interest. The future of mobile phones is one of two separate walled gardens.
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The only issue is erofs partitions. Everything else can be edited to change values. Maybe devs will have to find a way to make the rw. That's the issue I see for the future. But pa said they made a build with erofs for op7 so maybe they are looking into it.
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The only issue is erofs partitions. Everything else can be edited to change values. Maybe devs will have to find a way to make the rw. That's the issue I see for the future. But pa said they made a build with erofs for op7 so maybe they are looking into it.
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There's also the fact that A/B partitions lead to plenty of bricks and the devs get blamed for it plus the issues that come with AVB 2.0, manufacturers not releasing full kernel sources... It's all a circus.