Heat and Extended Battery Case - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

I purchased the Zerolemon battery case for the Note 9. The updated one for $40 on Amazon. Mostly with one use in mind (due to its large size making it not practical for daily use for me), and that's for when I use the phone as a hot spot to connect my Chromebook Pro to my Verizon LTE connection. I purchased the AccuBattery app to make an effort to only charge my phone up to 80% to avoid heat and stressing the battery. An alarm will sound when you hit 80% and I disconnect the cord. This will potentially double the longevity of the battery. So Under normal operation without the battery case the Note 9 is at 80 degrees Fahrenheit (no hot spot). With the battery case charging the phone it's running at 105 degrees while hot spotting. The app registers this as in the "red zone". That can't be good for the battery. Without the battery case running the hot spot the temperature is at 89 to 99 degrees.. still in the green zone and the phone only feels warm not hot like with the case on.
I don't recall the battery running this hot when I used extended batteries on my LG V20 to run the hot spot Wifi. When I picked up the phone it wasn't nearly this hot to the touch like when using the battery case. When I used an external power bank like my Anker 10 mAh PowerCore+ 3.0 quick charge, no heat issues either.
If recharging the battery causes heat in the battery case's own battery is the close proximity to the Note 9's internal battery likely to cause more damage than simply letting the battery run down to the recommended 30% (or when heat starts to pick up on the app) without a battery case? Then use the battery case to recharge when the phone is no longer in use?
I think it's safe to say that recharging the battery in the battery case while running the phone in a high output/discharge function like streaming, facetime or hot spot is really detrimental to the Note 9's non removable battery. The whole environment is too heated up. When I had the user replaceable batteries on my V10 and V20 this wasn't an issue because those batteries are very inexpensive compared to the cost of replacing a Note 9 battery. Reason #234 why phones should have user replaceable batteries.
I will post the battery temps when using an external power bank that's at least six inches away from the phone so that heat is not spilling into the internal battery.

Here is a screenshot of the AccuBattery app where I monitor battery heat under the discharge tab at the bottom right. Heat is the enemy.

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Innocell 3500mAh Extended Life Battery

Wow... On Seidio's website up for pre-order shipping 6/25 ... cant post the link
SHIPPING
It's shipping right now
Seidio battery opinion?
Very interested in seeing just how bulky/heavy this battery is and if it provides as much power as they're advertising.
I would NOT trust Seido AT ALL after all the battery lies they have already been caught up in. Search around to see for yourself.
Innocell 3500
The 3500 battery is physically about .030 inches taller than the Verizon 2150. The backing from the 2150 will not work with the new 3500. The new cover comes with the 3500. It is sweet and has good finger protection for the camera lens (preventing normal finger contact with the lens. I got the wall charger, and 2 of these batteries. For the road warrior time it is great. The charger also allows both phone and separate battery to charge simultaneously. The charger also comes with another USB power cord similar to the one shipped with the incredible w/o the wall plug. Great if you have the car lighter adapter that allows you to plug in a USB device and have it run and charge from inside the car while traveling.
I'm using the product pretty heavily and trying to pay attention to the reviews software that drains battery power. I ran for approximately 31 hours the 1st time out before it told me I needed to plug the phone in for a charge. I will try to improve this.
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The 3500 battery is physically about .030 inches taller than the Verizon 2150. The backing from the 2150 will not work with the new 3500. The new cover comes with the 3500. It is sweet and has good finger protection for the camera lens (preventing normal finger contact with the lens. I got the wall charger, and 2 of these batteries. For the road warrior time it is great. The charger also allows both phone and separate battery to charge simultaneously. The charger also comes with another USB power cord similar to the one shipped with the incredible w/o the wall plug. Great if you have the car lighter adapter that allows you to plug in a USB device and have it run and charge from inside the car while traveling.
I'm using the product pretty heavily and trying to pay attention to the reviews software that drains battery power. I ran for approximately 31 hours the 1st time out before it told me I needed to plug the phone in for a charge. I will try to improve this.
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What is the size difference of the 2150 and 3500 cover?
For the battery, did you mean .30, since .03 seems to small for such a big mAh difference?
"Beer", it's what's for dinner.
Reporting power usage 3500 MaH and Dimensions
Just sent back the 2150 yesterday and really we are talking about .030 inches. A very slight difference. I could get 3 of the 4 sides of the back cover for the 2150 to come down on the 3500 but you could see there was some strain. If the difference was .300 that would have been totally impossible. Using a caliper the height of the cover when measured on a flat surface is .591. The mating surface when measured on a flat surface is .168 = .759 total assembled height
3500 Mah thickness .395. I would need someone with a 2150 to measure the thickness of it to complete the comparison.
The phone finally threw up the I need to charge it meaning 15% or less battery remaining according to what it displays. The screen is still showing 2 of the 10 bars at an up time of 60:50:03 and an awake time of 9:55 It is still going as I am typing.
Cell Standby 37%
Phone idle 29%
Android system 23%
Display 7%
Voice Calls 4%
I'm not going to run it until it is 0 but I was wanting to hold out for 1 bar. I guess I've seen what I wanted to see.
3500 Mah performance Awesome!
Completed the testing of the 3500 Mah down to 4% of remaining power Watched 4 full length movies each over 2 hours. People who take long flights Get ready for fun. Phone at 4% remaining = 1 bar of 10 on battery screen.
Uptime 26 hours 45 min.
Awake time 13 hours 18 min Based on this a single battery would allow only 1 battery to be used for an international flight from Chicago to Hong Kong and still have plenty of battery left to get to a charger. The bad part is this Verizon phone will not work in HK or China. Different frequency from what I have been reading.
Cell Standby 23%
Android System 21%
Display 17%
Phone Idle 12%
Bluetooth 11%
Wi-Fi 10%
Mediaserver 4%
Voice Calls 2%
Rating "Best Battery for the HTC Incredible Power User" A+
mind posting up some pics from various angles of the phone w/the 3500 mah battery and battery cover?
I've had it from day 1
I pre-ordered mine and have been running it since 6-24 and I can tell you IMHO, it is everything I had hoped for. I can now get through a day with extensive use and not even wonder or worry about the charge... AND even make it through the next day too if I were to forget to charge at night.
I have push mail, listen to streamed music all day and just generally use my phone a LOT.
The battery is a winner for the DINC, just as it was for my xv6800
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy35hddn-bk.htm
could you post some personal photos of the phone w/extended cover on? you can't tell much from the pics on their website..

Extended batteries (3500mah in this case)

Well... so far I've ordered a 3500mah extended battery from Hong Kong.. but as I believe this will take rather a long time to get here... I've ordered another one from the UK as well from ECELL, which apparently has a silver extended cover.
I'm well aware that these are likely cack batteries and I have a plan for that
Basically I'm hoping that whichever one I consider to be the worst will either die on me... or I will simply end it's life prematurely. I am going to cut open the battery (Carefully!) and try to replace the cell's with two Genuine OEM 1500 mah batteries, for a true 3000mah. I bit elaborate but I think it should be possible as long as I cut in the right places.
EDIT: I found genuine LG batteries for about £8.50 each plus about £5 postage, so will order 2 batteries for around £22. They are special order though, so will take 14-28 days. (I am also getting them to confirm the capacity is defo 1500mah, as no point buying them otherwise.)
Update: Images in post #29 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23120430&postcount=29
Well.. I was getting a little impatient... so when I was really tired (and may just a little to drink), I ordered one from ECELL on ebay. It had a silver cover and a 3600mah battery (We all know it isn't that much), and was listed for the 2x P990. Turns up.. it's for the LG Optimus S :-( Bummer. Just trying to get a return/refund.
So... experiment is delayed somewhat.
Update: Two LG OEM batteries have been ordered ; The incorrect extended battery sent back ; Still awaiting the HK Extended battery. Bizarrely I thought I actually ordered a 2nd UK based battery.. but I was so tired I think I forgot to do it lol. Can't wait to have a play with these
Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
Sounds really interesting.. keep us updated please!
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Scougar said:
Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
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i got the 2400Mah battery(2 days of usage) i'm looking forward for you're results
specially the modded one pictures will also be great if u can.
thanks!
Apparently the LG batteries have been dispatched now, so should get them within a few days. Only annoying thing is that even LG were unable to confirm whether these batteries I'm getting are 1500mah. I will be gutted if they are not lol.
btw.. you should see my desk at present at home. I have about 5 phones, four of them in bits awaiting tinkering, LED bike lights (all modified), circuit boards from laptops everywhere, reparing a 4x 18650 battery pack + routers etc lol. And I just realised that I actually don't know where my soldering iron is ROFL. Must dig one out.
Anyway... I'm looking forward to it and if I can get it working, I'll put up pics etc. I'm very interested in trying to get the temp sensor working (although I realise it may only work for one of the batteries.).
P.s. as for extended cases and covers I bought this w w w.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Black-Trim-Rubber-Case-Cover-LCD-Film-Pro-LG-Optimus-2X-G2X-/180782656771?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesP ouches&hash=item2a177c6d03 and then cut out the back clear part. It's not a perfect fit, but it will work for the moment (Buy at your own risk.. I actually stretched mine too much when getting the clear part out).
Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
Scougar said:
Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
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Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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shpapy said:
Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
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Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
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no doubt it could be an expensive mistake, but if u succeed which i think you will the results will be probably a 4 day battery. so i think its worth it
i got the 2450Mah battery and it holds about 2 days with medium usage, so im really thrilled about ure test as i dont care about the size of the phone,
if you can share pictures it will be great you can also p.m if u want!!
thanks.
Shpapy.
No problem, will do
I charged the battery again last night, and rapid drained it running bluetooth (nothing connected), some GPS usage and wifi with smartshare running a video across from my NAS drive. In the morning it was down to about 25 percent so tried GPS on cycle to work and then drained it with music and GPS until 1%. Charged it without using it, and it's reporting about 1900mah estimated for the battery. I don't rate the estimator as highly accurate btw, but it's a guide .
I will try to take the battery apart tonight if I can. Not sure on best way to open it though, as I will need to reuse the carcass.
Damn.. was taking it apart and fried the circuit it came with. Unfortunately the metal legs that bring power from either side slipped off and touch the outer shell of the battery, was enough for a small yellow spark :-( oh well. (EDIT: Hmm.. circuit may still be alive actually...)
It's two batteries pressed together with several layers of thin plastic between them, either for insulation, spacing or both. I'm actually pretty surprised the cells weren't isolated better from each other.
Update 1: Well, for the first time.. I just managed to burn myself with electricity opps. These packs are really badly isolated. Shorted it on the tip of my finger... beginning to hurt lol. There are NO ratings on these batteries whatsoever. However, one thing they are is... amazingly well balanced. Just measured them and they are both exactly 3.78V's.
Update 2: The circuit and LG Battery will NOT fit directly into the old casing. There will need to either a mod to the extended casing, or we'll just have to 'go without', and make a casing up. It's looking like it's best to do without using the old battery at all actually, and just wire the two batteries together using the LG circuitry. (Well only one of the circuits).
Update 3: Will dig out the soldering iron tonight and get this double battery running
Update 4: Have VERY BADLY soldered the batteries together and combined battery is now charging in the phone. Due to the excess solder on the sides the battery is not quite proper fit, so I will have to redo it at some point. Really very dissappointed with how awful the soldering is, I will simply HAVE to redo it once this experiment is tested. Any tips on a soldering iron chaps? On the plus side, the one thing I do get is a temperature reading :-D
Tip number 1: Quickly snip the circuit off first and DO NOT let it touch the side of the battery casing, it will short out.
TIp number 2: h t t p://www.technfun.com/pages/article.php?id=22 Excellent guide. Take note of the safety tip!!!!
Points of interest
A) The extended battery is EXACTLY double the width of an LG battery.
B) LG OEM Batteries are made by Sanyo
C) Don't use a conventional soldering iron... it is almost impossible to solder the negative side and you will end up overheating the battery if you are not careful. (Any tips here guys?)
Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
Scougar said:
Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
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cool progress , can we get some pictures of the new battery?
how were u able to fit it in? i get u got a bigger case but still....
share with us ure images / knowledge its sounds really cool doing.
I basically copied what they had done on the 3500mah battery, and merely connected up the positive to positive and negative to negative terminals of the batteries using thin strips of metal, and only used one circuit from the LG battery. Basically I parallel the batteries to increase capacity.
I used a small spacer to keep the batteries seperated, but thinking about it, I could have use the bodies themselves as the 'negative' but it wouldn't have been a good connection). I then just taped the battery up and use the 3500mah battery sticker to hold it all together.
This really is just a 'prove it works' / prototype, and I will remake it neater, although I may have to buy a better soldering iron.
Pics later.
Note: After charging back up from 1% this morning to 100%, the 'estimated' mah by Battery Widget Pro is 1551mah. This would indicate to me that one battery is not connected properly unfortunately. I'm gonna run the battery and see how long it lasts under general usage. If it lasts only a day and a half, then I suspect I will have to resolder.
I bought a 3500mah half a year back and it wasn't any good. Twice the width but lasts the same as the original one. It'll be good if you could show us some pictures? I may consider making one too!
To be fair the estimated capacity of the 3500mah was around 1800 to 2000 mah. Pretty good considering it came with an extended back cover for under £5. It does seem entirely random though, and I was never comfortable without a temperature sensor.
The work I have done so far is rubbish to be honest. I thought I'd make a better job of soldering. I will have to redo it, as the fit is terrible due to the solder being too big/messy, and the connections are not very or or not working/broken.
Can't wait to see the results.
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For some reason, battery widget pro was recording very high mah draw/drain. I do not believe I soldered the negative terminals well enough. I took it apart and tried to prise a little flap of metal up for soldering, and managed to rip the terminal off the pack. I will do my best to remedy this of course and let you chaps know the result.
I also have the 3500 mAH and I was wondering if it was really giving 3500 mAH. I'm getting about 1.5 days on this battery with moderate usage. Heavy usage I get about a day. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I think it's supposed to last longer.

Warm to touch when charging?

Just got my Nexus 6, thank you very much motorola. I notice that when I put it to charge on the provided charger and usb cable, the phone feels warm/hot to the touch while charging. Is that normal or not? It's just sitting on a desk plugged to the wall with plenty of air around it.
Tia,
Ian B
Mine got warm the first time I used the provided charger but not hot. I charge overnight on qi charger it gets slightly warm. Hot would not be normal unless you consider hot as warm
jbdan said:
Mine got warm the first time I used the provided charger but not hot. I charge overnight on qi charger it gets slightly warm. Hot would not be normal unless you consider hot as warm
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Thanks for info. Decided to take it off the motorola charger for the first night and use a regular Samsung cable. Will power off tomorrow and restart to charge afterwards and see if that fixes the problem. It's not scorching jot but feels very warm to me.
Ian B
This is normal behavior. The turbo charger produces a substantial amount of heat especially when the battery is low. If you give it time to charge you will find the heat tapers off as the battery fills.
robber said:
This is normal behavior. The turbo charger produces a substantial amount of heat especially when the battery is low. If you give it time to charge you will find the heat tapers off as the battery fills.
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The Moto Turbo charger (Quick Charge 2.0), at full throttle, pushes 14.4W of power into your little battery, whereas a conventional 2A charger (Quick Charge 1.0), pushes only 10W. With great power, comes great heat. (...or something like that. I heard it in Spiderman.) Seriously, excess heat will be generated, but that was all taken into account by the designers, and is perfectly normal. That's exactly why the QC 2.0 chargers ramp down the power as the battery gets full -- It's filling it as fast as it can when the battery is almost empty, just in case you REALLY need it right away, but as it gets closer to full, it's less likely to be an emergency, so there's no compelling reason to keep generating all that heat while it finishes up the charge.
Thanks everyone for responding. Now I understand and wanted to make sure there was nothing defective with phone or charger.
Ian B

ZeroLemon LG G4 8500mAh TriCell Extended Battery Review

I have had the ZeroLemon 8500mAh battery and case for a week now.
The day I received it, I charged it to 100% and left it on the charger for an additional 3 hours as the instructions say.
I have a moto 360 connected to this phone all the time, and used a set of Plantronics Backbeat GO 2 bluetooth earbuds about 4 hours per day.
The very first charge I went 4 days without charging and ended up with 9.5 hours screen on time.
I left the brightness on 100% and had 2 email accounts on push as well as the usual Facebook, weather and other apps syncing.
I use my phone for both work and personal use so it had some heavy use.
I have been going 2 days now on the second charge and it sits at 78%.
As for the size of the case on the phone. It honestly is much smaller than I was expecting.
You can look at the pictures I have attached and see it is no bigger than an OtterBox Defender, it is just more square and not rounded.
The case does look like it would protect from small drops (desk height) and scuffs.
The front does sit a bit above the glass to keep the glass from ever touching anything when you set it down.
All of the openings and ports line up correctly and are big enough for normal use with no issues.
The speaker port is on the bottom of the phone instead of the back making for less muffled sounds when placed on a table.
The rear buttons are well placed and easy to use.
The case itself adds texture and does not feel near as slippery as the original backs.
Overall I would recommend this case to anyone who has to charge their phone throughout the day or who can benefit from multiple days between charges.
I can honestly say that the only (and this is minor) problem I found was the ports on the bottom of the phone allow dust ingress to the battery compartment.
Other than that, this is the perfect extended battery/case for your LG G4.
Case Dimension: 6.07" H x 3.15" W x 0.84" T
Case Weight with battery: 178g
Total Weight with phone, extended battery and case: 282.4g
10/10
I received this case in exchange for an honest review.
How long does it take to fully charge it? I don't think this battery support the Quick Charge 2.0 and I have noticed that it takes quite a while to charge the normal battery, sometimes up to 4 hours with a 5V 2.1A charger. I just ordered (had to) a Quick Charge 2.0 charger hoping I can reduce the total time to at least half that time.
I don't mind leaving it on an entire night every 4 days, but it kinds of worry me that if I ever get this it will take a huge time charing it.
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How long does it take to fully charge it? I don't think this battery support the Quick Charge 2.0 and I have noticed that it takes quite a while to charge the normal battery, sometimes up to 4 hours with a 5V 2.1A charger. I just ordered (had to) a Quick Charge 2.0 charger hoping I can reduce the total time to at least half that time.
I don't mind leaving it on an entire night every 4 days, but it kinds of worry me that if I ever get this it will take a huge time charing it.
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It took mine about 3 hours to reach 100% and then the directions state to let it charge for an additional 3 hours after it hits 100% to be fully charged.
So about 6 hours. I do as you described, every 3 or 4 days, depending on usage, I will fully charge the battery.
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Holy mother of battery life! 8H SOT and still rocking 45%
pakitos said:
Holy mother of battery life! 8H SOT and still rocking 45%
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All WiFi
Battery still calibrating though as percentage goes up alot when screen is off
Milimbar said:
I have had the ZeroLemon 8500mAh battery and case for a week now.
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How much does it weigh in gms ?
NFC or wireless charging?
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NFC or wireless charging?
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Hey @Milimbar i thought about getting it because I'm basically out I the field working all day and I like to listen to iHeartRadio. My job can be very dirty and hard sometimes so I need a tough case . The other extended battery cases seeing very crappy protective wise. The zerolemon case seems very good in that respect. The only thing holding me back is the thickness. Would you say it is twice the thickness of the g4? Elaborate on the thickness please.
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Hey @Milimbar i thought about getting it because I'm basically out I the field working all day and I like to listen to iHeartRadio. My job can be very dirty and hard sometimes so I need a tough case . The other extended battery cases seeing very crappy protective wise. The zerolemon case seems very good in that respect. The only thing holding me back is the thickness. Would you say it is twice the thickness of the g4? Elaborate on the thickness please.
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Case Dimension: 6.07X3.15X0.84 inches
So a little over 3/4" thick, just about twice as thick
I will add this to the review
dontbeweakvato said:
Hey @Milimbar i thought about getting it because I'm basically out I the field working all day and I like to listen to iHeartRadio. My job can be very dirty and hard sometimes so I need a tough case . The other extended battery cases seeing very crappy protective wise. The zerolemon case seems very good in that respect. The only thing holding me back is the thickness. Would you say it is twice the thickness of the g4? Elaborate on the thickness please.
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It's about it the same thickness as an otterbox
Does it stay at 1% FOR DAYS
BADASS NOTE 5 & 4 & LG G4
My review- 4 out of 5
Rather than spam the accessories board with my own review I thought I would post mine here.
Incredible battery life (comparison to stock battery screenshots included). Minimal to moderate increase in thickness considering the battery rating (8500 mAh). It's actually not much bigger/thicker than an otterbox case (picture included). I honestly can't say enough about how great the battery life of my LG G4 is with this. Seriously I spent last Sunday trying my best to drain it in a day and couldn't, and the battery life has only gotten better over the first 4 full charge cycles (per zerolemon it takes 6 cycles to achieve max performance). Seriously after one day I wouldn't have recommended it (size and bulk with moderate battery gain), after two days it began to grow on me (as battery life improved), and now I will use this battery all the time (why stop gaming to swap batteries?). When I did nothing but play DS emulator games all day (almost 12 hrs) and still had 30+ percent left when the stock battery only managed just a bit over 4 hrs and was at 15% made me a believer in this battery (battery saver just kicked on but by the time I took a screenshot the battery showed 1% more - common when doing something that drains a battery quickly over a long period of time).
Recharge times aren't that bad- it's always at 100% when I wake up and sometimes that's been only after 6 hours. I haven't actually kept track of the recharge time but it's surely not 12 hours or anything ridiculous. I would bet it's in the 3-5 hour range.
So if it's so great, why only 4/5?
Well, for starters, I am constantly pressing the wrong button on the back of my phone. I don't think it would have been too difficult to add a little bump or something for finger orientation (a small speck of plastic on the power button would have been great). I'm pressing Vol + or Vol - when I want to press the power button, or pressing the power button when wanting something else - which I have resorted to actually turning the phone over and looking at the buttons first. I also don't think the case was designed for anything but to hold the battery to the back of the phone. Don't expect it to save your G4 if you drop it on concrete. The sides flex out a bit quite easily, so I would imagine that your phone will pop out of the case if dropped (likely removing the zerolemon battery in the process). So the battery is great, but the case could be better/more rigid/more refined (thus 4/5 for the case quality and lack of attention to detail in its design).
Size is substantial as I stated, and even though it was less than I expected, I was sad that my phone doesn't comfortably fit in my Moga Pro Power anymore. It's doable, but angled funny. Not a deal breaker.
One other thing to note is you will be without NFC using this battery. The NFC sticker is inside the factory back cover, so anyone who uses android pay/wallet will no longer be able to do so. I personally don't use NFC at all, so I won't miss anything.
Full disclosure: I received this item from ZeroLemon for free in exchange for an honest review of this item (thanks again ZeroLemon).
BACARDILIMON said:
Does it stay at 1% FOR DAYS
BADASS NOTE 5 & 4 & LG G4
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Mine turns off at 1% stays on 3 alot
I just bought one a few days ago. It most definitely has NFC. It was something I made sure of. Look at the Product Description. http://smile.amazon.com/LG-G4-ZeroL...id=1443081974&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g4
musiqlives said:
I just bought one a few days ago. It most definitely has NFC. It was something I made sure of. Look at the Product Description. http://smile.amazon.com/LG-G4-ZeroL...id=1443081974&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g4
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Mine doesn't have nfc.
I do not think mine has NFC either.
I will check when I get home, but there are no contacts on the battery to match up with the contacts on the phone for NFC.
I checked, and it defiantly does not have NFC on the battery I received.
That does not mean that they did not change it between when mine was made and what is currently for sale.
I doubt it though as they sent me this one to review. It is more probable that the listing is in error.
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Case Dimension: 6.07X3.15X0.84 inches
So a little over 3/4" thick, just about twice as thick
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weight in gms ?
anyone else want to answer this its an important question. How much weight does this thing add.
178G
Remember that does not mean it adds 178g.
You remove the original back and battery and replace them with the extended battery and case.
Rough guess the phone with the extended battery and case is a little over double the original weight.

Amazon Note 8 5500mah Battery Case

This is the one I bought: Galaxy Note 8 Battery Case, Himino 5500mAh Extended Battery Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07595GR35/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_nPy1zb075DR74
They all seem to be the same. Including the Zerolemon one which isn't available. Of course that's on the outside, perhaps the Zerolemon uses better cells. And I may switch to the Zerolemon one in the long run. Below is the review I left on Amazon.
The case is mediocre at best. This is just my first day with the case and my initial impression isn't great. The case back is soft touch plastic and it doesn't offer any grip. The sides of the case offer slightly more grip. The phone is held in the case securely and if you follow the instructions of pushing the phone out by the camera opening it can be removed easily enough. There is minimal front protection, the top and bottom lip only protrude about .5mm to .75mm above the glass. I can only slide 3 sheets of xerox paper between the phone screen and my desk when I lay it face down. 4 sheets will move the phone. If you drop your phone in this case, the sides should be ok but if it lands on the face I would expect the glass to break. The added weight won't do it any favors either.
On that note, I don't consider the weight a plus or minus. It's a heavy case, it's a big battery. You can carry around a battery pack of the same weight maybe a little less or you can have a convenient case that attaches directly to your phone and add the weight of the battery to your phone. Overall I feel the added weight is a fair trade off for the extra battery life.
To test the charging ability of the case,
I've discharged my phone to 10% and then turned the power off to see maximum charge I can get from the case into the phone. When I'm checking phone % charged, I'm just clicking the power button once which when powered off and charging provides a temporary screen with the phones current battery percentage. Through the charge cycle my phone remained in the "powered off" state, even though at some level it's technically not off since it still shows the charge percentage.
34% on the phone and the indicator on the back of the case turned green. The bottom of the phone case has become pretty warm over the +25% charge so far. Not necessarily hot but definitely uncomfortably warmer than I would want if this was in my pocket. Which with insulation would probably get even warmer.
43% and the indicator just turned blue. Blue means 25-50% remaining and the last "25%" (green) only provided about 10% actual charge for the phone (for the record I charges the case for 6hrs before first use and made sure it stopped charging and had time to cool down before using it).
92% and the indicator is still blue, the case temp has decreased, likely due to the phone accepting a charge more slowly as the battery fills up.
100% with the indicator still blue. Case is cool to the touch.
Definitely seems to be some discrepancy between the LED indicator percentage and the actual percentage remaining in the case battery.
This leaves me with a few thoughts. Perhaps there is a problem with some of the cells leading to quick percent changes through the 100% down to 50% (White and Green) portion of the charge cycle. Maybe the quick charge function of the phone is maxing out the charge circuit and it is running far below peak efficiency leading to more heat and less power being transferred. I'll charge the case over night and if possible turn off quick charge on the phone to see if it I can get better performance out of the White and Green portion of the charge cycle. But so far the case provided one full charge in about 2hrs 14mins with the phone off and supposedly has >25% left in the tank.
Overall I don't expect to use this case as my primary case. While the extra battery life is nice, the lack of sufficient screen protection and limited grip make this a need to use only case. My Note 8 doesn't have a problem lasting through my day and I usually have enough battery life left to get me through the night and well into the next day. I bought this case for the times when I travel where I usually use my phone constantly and battery life can become a challenge and for that I think it will be sufficient. I've rated it 3 stars to be fair as I think 2 is too low, but if I could I would rate it 2.5.
Phone charges super fast with a fast charger. Carry one around with a super short cable. Works better than a huge case.
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I grabbed one also but from a different Amazon store and my only 2 gripes is its a real B to get the phone out of the case, it even says you have to press on the camera glass to push the phone out of the case... Yeah no thanks. Also it's not a fast charger as the item listing said it was. I only paid $16 for mine with a coupon via Vipon.com and after emailing the store complaining about them lying about it being a fast charger they have me a $15 credit back so I got the case only for $1.

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