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Has anyone tested yet the SM-G950U1 firmware from Updato.com in your Verizon S8 yet? prior to the S8 i had the 7 Edge with unlocked firmware and worked just fine, just wondering if this is official build on the net.
It is and it works. I'm using it now. Gear VR supposed to work also but I don't have one to say for sure.
gqukyo said:
It is and it works. I'm using it now. Gear VR supposed to work also but I don't have one to say for sure.
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which version of Odin did you use?
Snakehn said:
which version of Odin did you use?
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Honestly I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was either modified .12 or the unmodified version. I did update to the Canadian firmware first though because the U1 want available at the time.
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Honestly I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was either modified .12 or the unmodified version. I did update to the Canadian firmware first though because the U1 want available at the time.
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I thought all the US variants of SM-G950U were bootloader-locked and hence we couldn't root. Are you guys saying that with this U1 firmware, it's unlocked and hence we can root? Link? I'm very skeptical this works.
Nobody said it was bootloader unlocked. It's carrier unlocked without any carrier bloat.
davidisflash said:
I thought all the US variants of SM-G950U were bootloader-locked and hence we couldn't root. Are you guys saying that with this U1 firmware, it's unlocked and hence we can root? Link? I'm very skeptical this works.
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No, the firmware comes from the unlocked S8, which means is bloat free, has nothing to do with root.
I've had the U firmware for a couple of weeks and it works great. Just that there's no video calling. Haven't tried wifi calling yet. Those are two features I've barely used. Battery life is great. I think sprint forums are close to root so I might root after they get everything worked out.
warriorpluto said:
I've had the U firmware for a couple of weeks and it works great. Just that there's no video calling. Haven't tried wifi calling yet. Those are two features I've barely used. Battery life is great. I think sprint forums are close to root so I might root after they get everything worked out.
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Does Verizon's visual voice mail and HD Calling work?
Verion Video calling is no big deal for me, but I have used Wifi calling once or twice from a store that had no Verizon coverage, but had free wifi. I could live without it, but it would be a nice to have. Then again, no bloat, and some of the Samsung features like Cloud Backup would be cool.
Can this be flashed without tripping Knox/Safe flags? And/or is it easy to flash back to stock Verizon without tripping?
KidJoe said:
Does Verizon's visual voice mail and HD Calling work?
Verion Video calling is no big deal for me, but I have used Wifi calling once or twice from a store that had no Verizon coverage, but had free wifi. I could live without it, but it would be a nice to have. Then again, no bloat, and some of the Samsung features like Cloud Backup would be cool.
Can this be flashed without tripping Knox/Safe flags? And/or is it easy to flash back to stock Verizon without tripping?
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Yes, the HD calling works. Calls are extremely crisp. It's as if you were making a Messenger call over Wi-Fi. It's night and day.
I have the Verizon G950U variant and I'm looking for root, sadly this model doesn't have the "OEM Unlock" option under Developer Settings so I can't flash it without tripping Knox or my phone locking up.
Does anyone know if it's possible to use the Tracfone S8, and flash the Verizon S8 firmware to it? I followed steps from another site and it gave me a firmware with Cricket, Metro pcs, and T-Mobile bloat on it and it was most definitely not Verizon. Anyone have any ideas what might have went wrong? Downloaded Verizon firmware direct from SamMobile but that was what I got. Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated, hope I'm putting this in the right place rather than start a new thread. Any help, tips, guides, download links, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!
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Yes, the HD calling works. Calls are extremely crisp. It's as if you were making a Messenger call over Wi-Fi. It's night and day.
I have the Verizon G950U variant and I'm looking for root, sadly this model doesn't have the "OEM Unlock" option under Developer Settings so I can't flash it without tripping Knox or my phone locking up.
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Just to clarify, are you saying that flashing the G950U1 ROM to a Verizon G950U will trip Knox, or just that if you attempt to root it?
Thanks.
blahbleus said:
Just to clarify, are you saying that flashing the G950U1 ROM to a Verizon G950U will trip Knox, or just that if you attempt to root it?
Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure that if you were to flash any rom or recovery other than the stock (and maybe even that, I'm not sure), it will trip Knox. Your phone might give you the whole "SEAndroid is not Enforcing" boot screen. This happened to me on my Galaxy Note 5, I even tried reflashing it's sitting in my drawer, lol.
I wouldn't take the risk unless you have been given a spare Galaxy S8 by Samsung to expirement with. It's a little too risky for me
I may be an idiot, but I do know that OEM unlocking isn't available in Dev options. I got my Galaxy S8 a few weeks ago and not quite ready to tamper with it.
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Does Verizon's visual voice mail and HD Calling work?
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I would like to reiterate this question for someone to answer please. I had the U on my S7 Edge and was missing VVM, only thing that was missing that I cared about.
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I would like to reiterate this question for someone to answer please. I had the U on my S7 Edge and was missing VVM, only thing that was missing that I cared about.
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I don't see any indication of HD calling anywhere, visual voice-mail is missing, but I use Google voice anyway.
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I'm pretty sure that if you were to flash any rom or recovery other than the stock (and maybe even that, I'm not sure), it will trip Knox. Your phone might give you the whole "SEAndroid is not Enforcing" boot screen. This happened to me on my Galaxy Note 5, I even tried reflashing it's sitting in my drawer, lol.
I wouldn't take the risk unless you have been given a spare Galaxy S8 by Samsung to expirement with. It's a little too risky for me [emoji14]
I may be an idiot, but I do know that OEM unlocking isn't available in Dev options. I got my Galaxy S8 a few weeks ago and not quite ready to tamper with it.
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People have been flashing all kinds of different carrier firmware as well as the unlocked firmware and nobody reported Knox bring tripped at all. Is fine to flash as much as you like.
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People have been flashing all kinds of different carrier firmware as well as the unlocked firmware and nobody reported Knox bring tripped at all. Is fine to flash as much as you like.
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Wasn't aware of that, I haven't seen anything on xda about it. Will other carrier's SIM cards still work on different roms?
You're kidding right? Those threads were one of the earliest ones posted since the phone was released. If you have an sim unlocked device, it'll work fine, its the same limitation as every other sim locked device. I converted my Vzw S8 to the US unlocked version since Vzw LTE phones come sim unlocked already. Using it on MintSim (Tmo) and it works perfectly fine. Have Wifi calling and VoLTE. If you have any other carrier phones, you'll need to have it sim unlocked to be able to use other providers even if you flash that carrier's rom.
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You're kidding right? Those threads were one of the earliest ones posted since the phone was released. If you have an sim unlocked device, it'll work fine, its the same limitation as every other sim locked device. I converted my Vzw S8 to the US unlocked version since Vzw LTE phones come sim unlocked already. Using it on MintSim (Tmo) and it works perfectly fine. Have Wifi calling and VoLTE. If you have any other carrier phones, you'll need to have it sim unlocked to be able to use other providers even if you flash that carrier's rom.
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I want to flash my verizon s8 950U with an unlocked clean firmware. Where can I download it?
Search for carrier switch posts in the regular S8 forums for instructions with links
Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
AtlantaBB said:
Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338
The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out
Ok so I have read some stuff that claims if I buy the unlocked Note 9 on best buy's website that my service with at&t will be inferior compared to a note I would have bought through their payment plan BS. Despite both having identical hardware and both being on the same service plan.
Is this true? Is there a easy way around it?
If not, what carriers do not do this?
Because for the past 2 years I have been using an unlocked axon 7, and lately I have noticed the service quality severely drop, and if this is the game AT&T wants to play then I will just move to another carrier and get a better promotion.
reluttr said:
Ok so I have read some stuff that claims if I buy the unlocked Note 9 on best buy's website that my service with at&t will be inferior compared to a note I would have bought through their payment plan BS. Despite both having identical hardware and both being on the same service plan.
Is this true? Is there a easy way around it?
If not, what carriers do not do this?
Because for the past 2 years I have been using an unlocked axon 7, and lately I have noticed the service quality severely drop, and if this is the game AT&T wants to play then I will just move to another carrier and get a better promotion.
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Going by the unlocked note 8 series on t mobile. I think most functionality works with their Network out of the box.
I'm currently using a unlocked N9 on Sprint, out of the box Rich communication text doesn't work nor does HD calling. Also the damn camera shutter sound cannot be muted lol.
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reluttr said:
Ok so I have read some stuff that claims if I buy the unlocked Note 9 on best buy's website that my service with at&t will be inferior compared to a note I would have bought through their payment plan BS. Despite both having identical hardware and both being on the same service plan.
Is this true? Is there a easy way around it?
If not, what carriers do not do this?
Because for the past 2 years I have been using an unlocked axon 7, and lately I have noticed the service quality severely drop, and if this is the game AT&T wants to play then I will just move to another carrier and get a better promotion.
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I read something similar about using an unlocked version on on T-Mobile but I have had no issues so far. Some people were saying that the carrier versions will fully support all bands but the unlocked ones may not. If worst comes to worst you can just flash carrier firmware on your unlocked version and you'll be good to go.
It's not about the model, it's about the firmware. Regardless of reflashing or outright buying an unlocked firmware, the network detects this.
The result is loss of all network-propriety functions, including: WiFi calling, VoLTE, and other features.
If you don't care about them, power to ya.
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Rev_Nev said:
I read something similar about using an unlocked version on on T-Mobile but I have had no issues so far. Some people were saying that the carrier versions will fully support all bands but the unlocked ones may not. If worst comes to worst you can just flash carrier firmware on your unlocked version and you'll be good to go.
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Amen Rev. As you mentioned, one can flash the appropriate firmware.
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I have unlocked note 9 on AT&T.
Some tests:
volte provisioned - false ...
video calling provisioned - false ...
wifi calling provisioned - false ...
EAB/Presence provisioned - false
Staff unable to turn them on on their end.
fbauto1 said:
I have unlocked note 9 on AT&T.
Some tests:
volte provisioned - false ...
video calling provisioned - false ...
wifi calling provisioned - false ...
EAB/Presence provisioned - false
Staff unable to turn them on on their end.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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disturbd1 said:
It's not about the model, it's about the firmware. Regardless of reflashing or outright buying an unlocked firmware, the network detects this.
The result is loss of all network-propriety functions, including: WiFi calling, VoLTE, and other features.
If you don't care about them, power to ya.
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Not sure about AT&T but on TMO, WIFI calling works on my Unlocked N9.
Carriers probably hate when you use unlocked phones because that's money lost for them. So they may make it seem like you're losing something.
jayr04 said:
Not sure about AT&T but on TMO, WIFI calling works on my Unlocked N9.
Carriers probably hate when you use unlocked phones because that's money lost for them. So they may make it seem like you're losing something.
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TMo sends their HD voice protocol/implementation to Google so it's "baked" into the phone. ATT chooses to be private.
ATT sucks for unlocked devices.
not only do the mentioned services not work, the reception also sucks compared to att branded phones. i have multiple iphones and last gen galaxy phones such as the S8, they all perform very well compared to my unlocked note 9.
i think i'm going to return my note 9 to bestbuy and get it exchanged for ATT branded one.
i can then carrier unlock from att.
unless i switch to Tmobile, no more unlocked devices for me.
it's 2018 and i gotta dial my voicemail on my note 9, what a piece of crap
disturbd1 said:
It's not about the model, it's about the firmware. Regardless of reflashing or outright buying an unlocked firmware, the network detects this.
The result is loss of all network-propriety functions, including: WiFi calling, VoLTE, and other features.
If you don't care about them, power to ya.
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Wifi calling and voLTE work on T-Mobile on unlocked devices works on my Note 9 works on my Oneplus 6 so it's not firmware based it's all up to the carrier
nycalex said:
ATT sucks for unlocked devices.
not only do the mentioned services not work, the reception also sucks compared to att branded phones. i have multiple iphones and last gen galaxy phones such as the S8, they all perform very well compared to my unlocked note 9.
i think i'm going to return my note 9 to bestbuy and get it exchanged for ATT branded one.
i can then carrier unlock from att.
unless i switch to Tmobile, no more unlocked devices for me.
it's 2018 and i gotta dial my voicemail on my note 9, what a piece of crap
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I haven't had that issue on AT&T out west . HD calling and stuff doesn't work, but download speed is just the same as it was a carrier branded phone.
Also why not flash the AT&T firmware, instead of returning the phone?
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Keep in mind that if you DO buy the unlocked version, you can flash AT&T's firmware on there for the full experience. You just won't have to deal with AT&T's incompetant SIM Unlock team if you ever leave (or sell it).
nuclearrage said:
I haven't had that issue on AT&T out west . HD calling and stuff doesn't work, but download speed is just the same as it was a carrier branded phone.
Also why not flash the AT&T firmware, instead of returning the phone?
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entropism said:
Keep in mind that if you DO buy the unlocked version, you can flash AT&T's firmware on there for the full experience. You just won't have to deal with AT&T's incompetant SIM Unlock team if you ever leave (or sell it).
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i've been trying to flash ATT firmware with this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/stock-official-attodinn960usqu1arg9-t3828691
no luck, seems the file is corrupt.
i know i can download official ATT stock firmware from sammobile.com.
but here;s the question:
every single usa version of the phone has the bootloader locked and safestrap does not work in oreo 8.1 as far as i'm concerned.
how do i flash this into my note9?
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ATT sucks for unlocked devices.
not only do the mentioned services not work, the reception also sucks compared to att branded phones. i have multiple iphones and last gen galaxy phones such as the S8, they all perform very well compared to my unlocked note 9.
i think i'm going to return my note 9 to bestbuy and get it exchanged for ATT branded one.
i can then carrier unlock from att.
unless i switch to Tmobile, no more unlocked devices for me.
it's 2018 and i gotta dial my voicemail on my note 9, what a piece of crap
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just flash the official ATT firmware. That's what I did and got all the ATT features
fbauto1 said:
just flash the official ATT firmware. That's what I did and got all the ATT features
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Hate to sound like an idiot but is flashing hard to do? I have had note phones since the note 2 and have always bought carrier branded phones but thinking of jumping on unlocked version this time.
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No flashing isn't hard. I have not done it for a while. Just make sure to read a few threads on it. Make sure you're using the latest method as some details can change and of course RTFM more than once and all the details. And if you're uncertain don't be a guinea pig and wait until some veterans verify the process. Soft bricking is possible and unbricking can be impossible for the technologically inclined. I forgot what phone, I think it was actually Galaxy Tab S2 I thought I hard bricked. Took me a couple days to get it back to functioning. There are many stories this some worse than mine.
fbauto1 said:
just flash the official ATT firmware. That's what I did and got all the ATT features
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could you kindly inform me on how to do this?
is it even possible to flash in my unlocked note 9? aren't all usa version bootloader locked?
how did you flash yours?
thank you for the help
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No flashing isn't hard. I have not done it for a while. Just make sure to read a few threads on it. Make sure you're using the latest method as some details can change and of course RTFM more than once and all the details. And if you're uncertain don't be a guinea pig and wait until some veterans verify the process. Soft bricking is possible and unbricking can be impossible for the technologically inclined. I forgot what phone, I think it was actually Galaxy Tab S2 I thought I hard bricked. Took me a couple days to get it back to functioning. There are many stories this some worse than mine.
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Thanks, will check into it. Still on the fence with getting unlocked ATT phone. Someone in another forum said he has bought two unlocked Samsung's for ATT and both had issues staying on LTE. But he hadn't flashed ATT firmware .. He was in low signal area so don't know if he was just unlucky or what...
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Rsmin said:
Hate to sound like an idiot but is flashing hard to do? I have had note phones since the note 2 and have always bought carrier branded phones but thinking of jumping on unlocked version this time.
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nycalex said:
could you kindly inform me on how to do this?
is it even possible to flash in my unlocked note 9? aren't all usa version bootloader locked?
how did you flash yours?
thank you for the help
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I also have a US unlocked n9, which i got directly from Samsung.
Here, there's a guide in
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/SM-N960U1/ATT/download/N960U1UEU1ARH2/231817/
You can either download the firmware from the link above, or from Venom's ATT thread. Either way, if you want the latest , just flash either, then trigger OTA. That's what I did. Now I'm on latest official ATT fw in my US unlocked n9.
And no, you don't need an unlocked bootloader for this. Will NOT trip know since these are OFFICIAL firmwares.
Does anybody know if the unlocked s10 will have access to Multi-line settings or has had experience with previous unlocked variants having access?
On T-Mobile this setting is specifically used for native "Digits" functionality without having to use an app. It's the only concern I have purchasing the unlocked variant.
I can't speak for the S10. The Note 9 however has built in Digits support in the TMobile variant, but requires downloading the app for the US unlocked variant. Chances are the S10 is also like this.
mosi76 said:
Does anybody know if the unlocked s10 will have access to Multi-line settings or has had experience with previous unlocked variants having access?
On T-Mobile this setting is specifically used for native "Digits" functionality without having to use an app. It's the only concern I have purchasing the unlocked variant.
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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When you say that you didn't have any TMobile bloatware when you flashed the TMobile firmware, are you referring to the general TMobile apps (like TMobile account app, VVM, etc)? or are you referring to some other 3rd party apps that TMobile puts on post-firmware. I always thought the TMobile apps would be there if flashing TMobile firmware, but I could be wrong.
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When you say that you didn't have any TMobile bloatware when you flashed the TMobile firmware, are you referring to the general TMobile apps (like TMobile account app, VVM, etc)? or are you referring to some other 3rd party apps that TMobile puts on post-firmware. I always thought the TMobile apps would be there if flashing TMobile firmware, but I could be wrong.
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3rd party apps, for example "Lookout" antivirus app wasn't there and other that T-Mobile might put there. These apps need to be disabled and can't be uninstalled. I am fine with T-Mobile account app and VVM. When flashing, just need to flash main firmware files(4 of them) and the 5th one was userdata, which has all the unneeded stuff
When you do this, don't you void something that doesn't let you use samsung pay, etc?
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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gotnoypi said:
When you do this, don't you void something that doesn't let you use samsung pay, etc?
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No, because I flashed my phone with an official Samsung firmware
Should have known so I could have purchased the unlocked version. Thanks for the info.
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No, because I flashed my phone with an official Samsung firmware
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gotnoypi said:
Should have known so I could have purchased the unlocked version. Thanks for the info.
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Not a big deal as there were times when T-Mobile for example would release monthly security patches couple of weeks earlier and possibly the Android upgrade version early too(not always though). As I understand that Samsung is obligated to release an update for carrier branded phones and then can released for their unlocked units. If you would want to flash your phone down the road, you could. It is just the process may not be as straight forward as flashing unlocked model
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Luckily you got to speak to someone who actually knows or at least should know. I have messaged them through the app and through Twitter and got the same basic kinda answer but no specifics and that's if they even knew what I was talking about. Hopefully it happens soon. Thanks for the update
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Luckily you got to speak to someone who actually knows or at least should know. I have messaged them through the app and through Twitter and got the same basic kinda answer but no specifics and that's if they even knew what I was talking about. Hopefully it happens soon. Thanks for the update
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I took multiple tries on chat and call. Luckily I got forwarded to DIGITS team and the person knows exactly the issue and is not reading off knowledge base or written instructions.
Hopefully it arrives soon as I don't want to use the DIGITS app for it.
T-Mobile DIGITS team has actually been telling customers that the native multiline feature will not be coming to the S10 or supported on other devices anymore because they destaffed that dev team. They are phasing out the feature. Absolutely horrible decision. The DIGITS app is hot trash. They have a **** load of customer pissed about it. Especially in the business segment like me. There's a scathing thread over on the T-Mobile's forums about it.
So, now T-Mobile DIGITS experts are telling people that they are waiting on an update from Samsung to make the feature possible again.
So, I don't what the **** is going on. It's ****ery.
Unless we hear something directly from Samsung, everything is now just hear say. I'm still hoping for a software update to push out the feature.
Actually, the multi-line setting was garbage. Even on my previous Note 8 and current unlocked Huawei P20 Pro, I use the DIGITS app. Luckily, with previous T-Mobile lines, got DIGITS for free. For new customers and new lines, I think it costs some monthly fees.
Thank you!
gotnoypi said:
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Hey, thank you so much for posting this. I tried to contact thru customer support, Twitter, calls, walk-ins.. Seems like T-Mobile employees aren't aware not only of this issue, but of the option at all..
don't mean to resurrect this old thread, but i got my S10 a few days ago and just got off the phone with the DIGITS support, after being transferred numerous times by people that didn't know what i was even talking about. the guy said that samsung told them (tmobile) a few months ago that they are removing multi-line settings from all new devices and that users need to start using the DIGITS app instead. he even said that with any further updates on the phones that currently have multi-line settings, the updates will actually remove those settings from the phones. pretty crappy if you ask me.
I'm still using a Samsung S7 with multi-line set to On, with T-Mobile. I didn't like their Digits app, much prefer the phone's native multi-line ability. However, as others above have said, T-Moble Digits support told me that Samsung was going to remove that ability. For now, it still works albeit buggy. I have to turn the phone off then on multiple times a day to keep the second line working properly. Does anyone know another Android phone that supports multi-line with T-Mobile, but correctly?
If I buy the unlocked from the Google store will Volte and Wifi calling work? I've known in the passed unlocked ones it didn't.
My google store stock unlocked pixel 3xl works with verizon volte and wifi calling. Visual voicemail does not work, most likely because I am on prepaid.
Do you have to do anything special for Verizon volte and wificalling or will putting a SIM in unlocked pixel 5 just work? I am coming from Pixel2 with volte but not wificalling
You have to enable both separately in the mobile network settings. I don't recall having to do anything on the carrier side.
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You have to enable both separately in the mobile network settings. I don't recall having to do anything on the carrier side.
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I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
flamadiddle said:
I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
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You can just roll it into your monthly bill and pay over 2 years. No further credit checks either. Bootloader will most likely be locked forever though so buyer beware if you are into root. And if you wait until black Friday you can probably get a BOGO deal of some sort.
flamadiddle said:
I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
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I went ahead and just preorderd the Pixel 5 Unlocked from google. Hope it works especially wifi calling.
Verizon's HD voice, volte and wifi calling work fine on my wifes unlocked Pixel 3 XL and my unlocked Pixel 4 XL. The unlocked Pixel 5 will probably be the same.
Volte and wifi calling work. Hd calling needs to be activated in your vzw account. Wifi calling works but has to have the radio turned off.
Now for the $64 dollar question: vzw has there own version and it seems Google's version won't do 5G on vzw. Why....?
Larzzzz82 said:
Now for the $64 dollar question: vzw has there own version and it seems Google's version won't do 5G on vzw. Why....?
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Where did you see that? I haven't seen anything about this.
Let me see if I can find the article...
Larzzzz82 said:
Let me see if I can find the article...
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That is incorrect.
It's still not clear what/if anything will be different between the Google store Pixel 5 and the VZW Pixel 5. Well other than one being carrier locked.
bobby janow said:
That is incorrect.
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If course it is. I haven't found the source of my comment yet.... Where's yours?
Larzzzz82 said:
If course it is. I haven't found the source of my comment yet.... Where's yours?
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You first. You claimed it.
You're claiming I'm incorrect. Prove me wrong instead of some of some adolescent I asked first, 2s a bigger number, bs.
I did claim it. Now as the prosecutor, it's your job to prove me wrong....
Do you get a conviction or what?
Larzzzz82 said:
You're claiming I'm incorrect. Prove me wrong instead of some of some adolescent I asked first, 2s a bigger number, bs.
I did claim it. Now as the prosecutor, it's your job to prove me wrong....
Do you get a conviction or what?
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Don't be silly. Do your research and find it. You were wrong what you said that's all this is about. Don't make a bigger deal than it is. No one is attacking you or prosecuting you. If you can prove your statement then I'll say sorry. Done here.
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It's still not clear what/if anything will be different between the Google store Pixel 5 and the VZW Pixel 5. Well other than one being carrier locked.
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This article was updated on Oct. 6th, hopefully it will answer your question. I can't even imagine that a Google version will not support everything, there would be no point.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...networks-your-pixel-5-or-pixel-4a-5g-can-use/
bobby janow said:
This article was updated on Oct. 6th, hopefully it will answer your question. I can't even imagine that a Google version will not support everything, there would be no point.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...networks-your-pixel-5-or-pixel-4a-5g-can-use/
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The only difference mentioned in that article is with the 4a 5G unlocked vs Verizon edition. No mention of the Verizon Pixel 5.
flamadiddle said:
The only difference mentioned in that article is with the 4a 5G unlocked vs Verizon edition. No mention of the Verizon Pixel 5.
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I don't even know how I got involved with this discussion since I don't have 5G where I live but here I am anyway. So.. they actually do mention the Pixel 5 but as you say not the Verizon branded one. Reason being it doesn't matter whether you buy the P5 from VZW or not, they work identical. Here is the exact quote: "However, all U.S. Pixel 5 (model ID GD1YQ) and Verizon-sold Pixel 4a 5G (G6QU3) units will also be able to access high-band millimeter wave spectrum — supercharged throughput with extremely limited coverage." Which should probably put this part of the thread to rest.
As for wifi calling it was stated a few posts ago that you need to have the radio turned off for wifi calling to work. That is not the case, at least on my Google P4. Wifi calling is working whether or not I have the radio on or off. If the signal is good wifi calling is in effect.