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Disable bluetooth MAP?

My X is paired to my 2013 F-150 via SYNC and it automatically adds the voice, media and message features upon connecting. However, every time I get a text, SYNC stops everything to tell me I have a new text message, and it's annoying. You can turn MAP off temporarily by manually disabling it while the phone is paired, but once it re-pairs with SYNC, it automatically activates MAP again. I do use the voice and media though.
My question is this... is there any way to permanently disable the MAP feature on the X? I don't use it and never will. I always check my phone when a new message arrives or wait until I'm at a stop. I just want to be able to be able to remove the MAP feature.

triton302 said:
My X is paired to my 2013 F-150 via SYNC and it automatically adds the voice, media and message features upon connecting. However, every time I get a text, SYNC stops everything to tell me I have a new text message, and it's annoying. You can turn MAP off temporarily by manually disabling it while the phone is paired, but once it re-pairs with SYNC, it automatically activates MAP again. I do use the voice and media though.
My question is this... is there any way to permanently disable the MAP feature on the X? I don't use it and never will. I always check my phone when a new message arrives or wait until I'm at a stop. I just want to be able to be able to remove the MAP feature.
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You can probably unpair (from both the phone and sync) and then repair and when you repair just deny the MAP access request.
Also, you should be able to turn off new message download in Sync

triton302 said:
My X is paired to my 2013 F-150 via SYNC and it automatically adds the voice, media and message features upon connecting. However, every time I get a text, SYNC stops everything to tell me I have a new text message, and it's annoying. You can turn MAP off temporarily by manually disabling it while the phone is paired, but once it re-pairs with SYNC, it automatically activates MAP again. I do use the voice and media though.
My question is this... is there any way to permanently disable the MAP feature on the X? I don't use it and never will. I always check my phone when a new message arrives or wait until I'm at a stop. I just want to be able to be able to remove the MAP feature.
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Did you ever find a solution for this? I just got a '14 Raptor and it does the same damned thing. I've deleted the phone pairing and repaired and deny access when repairing but it still automatically connects to all 3 protocols when I get in the truck. My phone is actually an LG G3 but it seems to be an android problem and not a specific phone problem.

boosting1bar said:
Did you ever find a solution for this? I just got a '14 Raptor and it does the same damned thing. I've deleted the phone pairing and repaired and deny access when repairing but it still automatically connects to all 3 protocols when I get in the truck. My phone is actually an LG G3 but it seems to be an android problem and not a specific phone problem.
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Nope. I also got a '14 Focus ST and the bluetooth "feature" is even worse on it. Since I have the full touchscreen, it will now display the notification that I have a text, and who it's from. Again, you can temporarily disable it on the phone but not permanently.

triton302 said:
Nope. I also got a '14 Focus ST and the bluetooth "feature" is even worse on it. Since I have the full touchscreen, it will now display the notification that I have a text, and who it's from. Again, you can temporarily disable it on the phone but not permanently.
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm getting in my 14 Raptor. Terrible, I guess I have to disable it every time I get in the car now.

triton302 said:
Nope. I also got a '14 Focus ST and the bluetooth "feature" is even worse on it. Since I have the full touchscreen, it will now display the notification that I have a text, and who it's from. Again, you can temporarily disable it on the phone but not permanently.
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Do you guys have root? if so maybe you can try something. but keep in mind I have not tried this myself and also I could be completely wrong.
Anyway, I noticed in my moto x build.prop file (that sets the phone settings on boot) that one of the lines seems to disable Bluetooth SAP on boot. The line is
ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.sap = false
if that can turn off SAP maybe
ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.map = false
can turn off MAP on boot.
Keep in mind editing build.prop the wrong way can give you boot up problems. Backup the file, and also keep track of and set the appropriate permissions for the file.
In fact, it's probably better before editing build.prop to try the setting on the fly. In a terminal emulator with SU enabled try the line
setprop ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.map false
then check that with getprop and with your car.
this is safer if you have any problems you can just reboot. if it works you can proceed to build.prop

dtg7 said:
Do you guys have root? if so maybe you can try something. but keep in mind I have not tried this myself and also I could be completely wrong.
Anyway, I noticed in my moto x build.prop file (that sets the phone settings on boot) that one of the lines seems to disable Bluetooth SAP on boot. The line is
ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.sap = false
if that can turn off SAP maybe
ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.map = false
can turn off MAP on boot.
Keep in mind editing build.prop the wrong way can give you boot up problems. Backup the file, and also keep track of and set the appropriate permissions for the file.
In fact, it's probably better before editing build.prop to try the setting on the fly. In a terminal emulator with SU enabled try the line
setprop ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.map false
then check that with getprop and with your car.
this is safer if you have any problems you can just reboot. if it works you can proceed to build.prop
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Great idea, however I just tried it with no avail.
I just thought of something as well... my fiance has a '13 Focus SE with the base stereo, and she has the same model phone as me (VZW X Dev). Her SYNC doesn't alert her to new messages, but my truck with the same SYNC setup did, but I figured my truck had a more recent version of SYNC. I dunno, all I know is it's annoying as hell and I'd like to find a more permanent solution. Especially since I'm contemplating on buying the Droid Turbo in the future and I'm sure it will do the same thing.

triton302 said:
Great idea, however I just tried it with no avail.
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That sucks... Just to clarify I assume you tried this with a terminal emulator. did you remember to give it root before running the setprop command? i.e. type su and enter. without root setprop will appear to go through but won't actually set anything. And if it's set properly, getprop ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.map should return false like it does for SAP. otherwise it will return empty.
Another thing that might or might not make a difference, was Bluetooth on when you tried this, if so try it with Bluetooth off.
As for the difference between the two SYNCs my guess is you're right the version difference could be affecting something. A quick Google search suggests some versions of SYNC have a setting for MAP. in SYNC menu check System Settings -> Advanced -> MAP Profile

dtg7 said:
That sucks... Just to clarify I assume you tried this with a terminal emulator. did you remember to give it root before running the setprop command? i.e. type su and enter. without root setprop will appear to go through but won't actually set anything. And if it's set properly, getprop ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.map should return false like it does for SAP. otherwise it will return empty.
Another thing that might or might not make a difference, was Bluetooth on when you tried this, if so try it with Bluetooth off.
As for the difference between the two SYNCs my guess is you're right the version difference could be affecting something. A quick Google search suggests some versions of SYNC have a setting for MAP. in SYNC menu check System Settings -> Advanced -> MAP Profile
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The newer SYNC version doesn't have that MAP option, that was the first thing I found when googling as well. (and for the record I don't have a moto, I'm using an LG G3 and found this thread while searching for a solution). Unfortunately my build.prop doesn't have those lines in it. Not sure if I could just add the MAP entry or not, that's above my knowledge base

boosting1bar said:
The newer SYNC version doesn't have that MAP option, that was the first thing I found when googling as well. (and for the record I don't have a moto, I'm using an LG G3 and found this thread while searching for a solution). Unfortunately my build.prop doesn't have those lines in it. Not sure if I could just add the MAP entry or not, that's above my knowledge base
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well without putting in commands manually I see two things you guys can try. the first doesn't need root while the second one does.
1) turn on Bluetooth on your phones, then go to Settings -> Apps -> Running -> Bluetooth Share then just Stop the Map service. This method will stick as long as you don't turn off Bluetooth and start it again, and as long as you don't restart the phone. if you do either you'll have to do the stopping again.
2) this requires that your phone be rooted, but on the plus side it might be more permanent. There's a nifty app in the play store made by some benevolent developer that claims to disable any service started by any app. appropriately enough the app is called Disable Service. You open the app, slide over to the System Apps section, find Bluetooth Share and click it, then just uncheck the Maps service box. So simple, but won't work without root. Try it with Bluetooth off and if that doesn't work reset it then try it with Bluetooth on. But word of caution you don't want to go messing around disabling other things unless you're sure of what you're doing. disabling the wrong thing will cause you problems.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
good luck.

dtg7 said:
well without putting in commands manually I see two things you guys can try. the first doesn't need root while the second one does.
1) turn on Bluetooth on your phones, then go to Settings -> Apps -> Running -> Bluetooth Share then just Stop the Map service. This method will stick as long as you don't turn off Bluetooth and start it again, and as long as you don't restart the phone. if you do either you'll have to do the stopping again.
2) this requires that your phone be rooted, but on the plus side it might be more permanent. There's a nifty app in the play store made by some benevolent developer that claims to disable any service started by any app. appropriately enough the app is called Disable Service. You open the app, slide over to the System Apps section, find Bluetooth Share and click it, then just uncheck the Maps service box. So simple, but won't work without root. Try it with Bluetooth off and if that doesn't work reset it then try it with Bluetooth on. But word of caution you don't want to go messing around disabling other things unless you're sure of what you're doing. disabling the wrong thing will cause you problems.
good luck.
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Thanks so much! Option 2 is exactly what I've been looking for! Option 1 doesn't work for me because I use Trigger and have conditional BT on/off and that would just recreate the same problem lol.

Just tried option 2... If any of those services are unchecked, Bluetooth itself turns off automatically and won't turn back on until that service is restored.

triton302 said:
Just tried option 2... If any of those services are unchecked, Bluetooth itself turns off automatically and won't turn back on until that service is restored.
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Yep same here, tried it on my way home yesterday and the disable service app completely disables bluetooth if you disable MAP.

boosting1bar said:
Yep same here, tried it on my way home yesterday and the disable service app completely disables bluetooth if you disable MAP.
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Wow no breaks...but not quite out of ideas yet. a few more to spitball, going from simple to more complex:
a) we've established there's no option to disable MAP from within SYNC under System Settings. What about under Phone Settings? Indications are there should be an option there to turn off Message Notification. If it's there set it to OFF. frankly I'd expect there to be such a setting somewhere in there.
b) reaching a bit here, but in Disable Service app I notice there's another system app that has Bluetooth service settings. the app's name is org.codeaurora.bluetooth (Apparently Code Aurora is the Qualcomm Linux kernel). No idea if this will work where the other failed but won't hurt to try. the service says BluetoothMasService but if you check the full name it is map (maybe service instead of profile).
c) this one brings out the big guns. not only do you need root, but you also need Xposed installed. if you already have Xposed then it would be quick to try. if not, just read up on it. anyway, with Xposed installed you need the AppOpsXposed module. when you have that up and running you open the App Ops screen of the Bluetooth Share app (a few ways to do that, doesn't matter how). in that screen you turn off all of Bluetooth Share's access to SMS. Basically you disable Bluetooth from interacting with Messaging. you revoke the permissions. Bluetooth will still work unaware that it can't access messages, and I figure if it can't access messages it damn well can't send them to the car.
There's another module that can do this more thoroughly, but App Ops is less scary/more user friendly.
that's it. personally I still prefer my original idea of figuring out how to do it manually thru setprop and build.prop, but if that's not an option then try these.

Roger, I'm off work today so I'll try these out here shortly.
EDIT: From what I recall, if you have a recent version of MFT, there are no options whatsoever for MAP, in phone or system settings. I'll double check.
EDITING EDIT: #2 doesn't work.

dtg7 said:
Wow no breaks...but not quite out of ideas yet. a few more to spitball, going from simple to more complex:
a) we've established there's no option to disable MAP from within SYNC under System Settings. What about under Phone Settings? Indications are there should be an option there to turn off Message Notification. If it's there set it to OFF. frankly I'd expect there to be such a setting somewhere in there.
b) reaching a bit here, but in Disable Service app I notice there's another system app that has Bluetooth service settings. the app's name is org.codeaurora.bluetooth (Apparently Code Aurora is the Qualcomm Linux kernel). No idea if this will work where the other failed but won't hurt to try. the service says BluetoothMasService but if you check the full name it is map (maybe service instead of protocol).
c) this one brings out the big guns. not only do you need root, but you also need Xposed installed. if you already have Xposed then it would be quick to try. if not, just read up on it. anyway, with Xposed installed you need the AppOpsXposed module. when you have that up and running you open the App Ops screen of the Bluetooth Share app (a few ways to do that, doesn't matter how). in that screen you turn off all of Bluetooth Share's access to SMS. Basically you disable Bluetooth from interacting with Messaging. you revoke the permissions. Bluetooth will still work unaware that it can't access messages, and I figure if it can't access messages it damn well can't send them to the car.
There's another module that can do this more thoroughly, but App Ops is less scary/more user friendly.
that's it. personally I still prefer my original idea of figuring out how to do it manually thru setprop and build.prop, but if that's not an option then try these.
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I think we have a winner! #3 works perfectly.
I tested it with the phone unlocked and locked, rebooting the phone, toggling bluetooth on and off, turning the car on and off... seems to work every time. As long as you turn off just the SMS/MMS options, you can still have it send and receive calls and allow the device to remain unlocked while connected.

Ahhhh...... Success feels good...
Xposed is pretty amazing... It gives us a fighting chance lol.
if only they'd installed Xposed on Skynet things might have turned out differently...

dtg7 said:
c) this one brings out the big guns. not only do you need root, but you also need Xposed installed. if you already have Xposed then it would be quick to try. if not, just read up on it. anyway, with Xposed installed you need the AppOpsXposed module. when you have that up and running you open the App Ops screen of the Bluetooth Share app (a few ways to do that, doesn't matter how). in that screen you turn off all of Bluetooth Share's access to SMS. Basically you disable Bluetooth from interacting with Messaging. you revoke the permissions. Bluetooth will still work unaware that it can't access messages, and I figure if it can't access messages it damn well can't send them to the car.
There's another module that can do this more thoroughly, but App Ops is less scary/more user friendly.
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Awesome, worked here as well!! I'd looked through xposed and didn't see any modules that would do what we were after, completely forgot about AppOps. Outstanding work and thanks so much for the help!

You're welcome!

boosting1bar said:
Awesome, worked here as well!! I'd looked through xposed and didn't see any modules that would do what we were after, completely forgot about AppOps. Outstanding work and thanks so much for the help!
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How did you get this yo work? I am on a cm12 Rom also with the same issue.
Did all the above, but anytime I start the Bluetooth afterwards, it just reactivates the "Read / Write sms messages permission all over again nd im back to square 1.
Sorry to bump an old thread. But its still yhe same issue I am dealing with.

[Help] My saved Wifi doesn't restore.

I have many saved wifi networks including passwords saved on my old Samsung Galaxy S4. But I have not got them on my Nexus 6.
I have tried to sync Google account but I will not received any wifi networks on my Nexus 6.
I have root on both S4 and the Nexus 6. What can I do?

Davil_79 said:
I have many saved wifi networks including passwords saved on my old Samsung Galaxy S4.
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I won't begin to guess which apps might properly back up (and then restore) the wifi configurations across devices. Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't. (I think Titanium Backup might work, but I've never used it myself to verify.)
However, you should be able to recover the wifi configurations from your SGS4 and then manually configure them on the nexus6. This assumes that your comfortable in a root capable file explorer or command shell...
First, google "where does android store wifi passwords." Using the information from there (and with root access,) you should be able to track down the proper file on your SGS4 to extract the existing wifi configs.
At that point, I'd actually suggest reconfiguring the networks on your nexus6 using the "settings" application instead of trying to manually write them into a file. (In theory, you could edit the proper file on the nexus6, reboot, and they'd all be there. In practice, even the slightest typo or misunderstanding of the file format could result in Really Strange Things happening.)

garyd9 said:
I won't begin to guess which apps might properly back up (and then restore) the wifi configurations across devices. Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't. (I think Titanium Backup might work, but I've never used it myself to verify.)
However, you should be able to recover the wifi configurations from your SGS4 and then manually configure them on the nexus6. This assumes that your comfortable in a root capable file explorer or command shell...
First, google "where does android store wifi passwords." Using the information from there (and with root access,) you should be able to track down the proper file on your SGS4 to extract the existing wifi configs.
At that point, I'd actually suggest reconfiguring the networks on your nexus6 using the "settings" application instead of trying to manually write them into a file. (In theory, you could edit the proper file on the nexus6, reboot, and they'd all be there. In practice, even the slightest typo or misunderstanding of the file format could result in Really Strange Things happening.)
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Thanks so much for your reply!
I have seen that there are many wifi Recovery apps on Google play, but I don't dare try any because it can cause trouble I think.
I am frustrated and surprised that my wifi network that I have on my S4 does not want to show up on my N6. It is very strange!
But thanks to your help, I have found all the passwords via the file explorer on the S4, so I have to type in all manually on the N6 then

I was trying to do this too and actually found a way to do it, using google backup service. I forced the restore through adb shell. See this link: http://jftr.de/2014/01/fairphone-and-android-backups-to-the-google-cloud/
just thought to share it here, since this is the top hit on google

Tasker or another automate app working?

Hi,
I tried to find root cause, but unfortunately without success. Is there anybody, who using Tasker or another application for automatization of your phone without any issues?
My issue is, Tasker is still "delayed" - but same rules I used before on LG G3 (Android 6.0) - but now on P9 (DualSIM) didn't work.
I have task for Calendar Entry, where if I have appointment in my work calendar, during this time Sound mode is deactivated (only Vibrate).
Some suggestion? I tried white lists, etc. or another app with same bad behavior.
Thank you!

Well, I tried to deactivate power management app from Huawei over ADB and looks good now finally! Its workaround, but tasker now working very well as expected.
adb shell pm hide com.huawei.powergenie

Did you have "Run in Foreground" selected in Tasker's preferences?
My Tasker works fine with that selected, although I also have trusted the app in permissions manager, allowed it to auto launch & activated it as a device administrator in advanced settings/security.

Yeah, I tried every tip over Tasker or phone (EMUI settings) and only deactivate power management helps me.

I had the same problem with IFTTT. It worked perfectly with my LG G3, but was hopeless on the P9. No amount of white-listing or settings would work.
I even had the app in memory, with Google maps running, on GPS, screen on, and it still wouldn't trigger a location based profile.
I've had to revert to manually arming and dis-arming my home security system. Annoying.

I translate from spanish so I'm sorry if your phone shows menus with other name.
You must go to adjust > advanced adjusts > memory and store and at bottom of page "space clean". On new screen push on upper-right wheel, and now on last option "white list of memory clean". Finally look for your app and activate it.
If you don't include app here, clean system will close it on background and timers won't work. It solved my problems.

aidrabmol said:
I translate from spanish so I'm sorry if your phone shows menus with other name.
You must go to adjust > advanced adjusts > memory and store and at bottom of page "space clean". On new screen push on upper-right wheel, and now on last option "white list of memory clean". Finally look for your app and activate it.
If you don't include app here, clean system will close it on background and timers won't work. It solved my problems.
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"Settings>Advanced settings>Memory & storage>Storage cleaner" and "Memory cleanup whitelist".

Using Agama, I can get an app to start following a reboot. However, I would like to start the App at every Startup. Does Automate or any other app let you do that?

carroamer said:
Using Agama, I can get an app to start following a reboot. However, I would like to start the App at every Startup. Does Automate or any other app let you do that?
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Why would you need Tasker for that simple.
Settings, type in the Search Autostart and add your app to the list of apps to be started on every reboot.
You may also need to disable Battery Optimization for your app (to make sure it would still work in background when the phone sleeps with dark screen)
That should generally work for all Androids. I don't have Huawei P9 now for years, I remember that EMUI might have had specific Settings organization but there was also Autostart (or Auto start)...

zgfg said:
Why would you need Tasker for that simple.
Settings, type in the Search Autostart and add your app to the list of apps to be started on every reboot.
You may also need to disable Battery Optimization for your app (to make sure it would still work in background when the phone sleeps with dark screen)
That should generally work for all Androids. I don't have Huawei P9 now for years, I remember that EMUI might have had specific Settings organization but there was also Autostart (or Auto start)...
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When I search 'Autostart' it produces 'No results'

carroamer said:
When I search 'Autostart' it produces 'No results'
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I had P9 for three years (if you don't believe, you can find tons of my posts here back from 2017-2018)
Now, you have that phone, not me (I got rid of my last Huawei almost three years ago) - I cannot show you and I cannot look into the EMUI settings because I don't have the EMUI phone anymore
But I KNOW that there was a way in EMUI how to control which apps will be automatically started on boot - I know because I played with all that back in those years, II did need for many apps like AdAway, Find My Device and similar that required to be auto-started to operate correctly
Take your time and google and you'll find. Sorry, I tried to help you but I will no more waste my time on that. Huaweis are past time for me
And take your time, use your imagination, If not Autostart, google for EMUI startup manager or something similar to find the answer for your question on the Net

New phone data transfer - how did you do it

I currently have a Z1 and will be upgrading to XZ2 Premium, I want to make sure that I can backup and transfer my Wifi passwords, Contacts and messaging is more or less routine so I want to know what works and your experience when you got the XZ2
I have used the PC Xperia Companion to back up my stuff, also used the Sony App Xperia Transfer from the PS and it says it backs up Wifi, I have also used google backup to the cloud and finally Titanium Backup XML (possibly needs root but have read it doesn't), all of these claim to backup Wifi but I have read from various sources that they don't work
So my question is how did you do it on your new XZ2 and what worked
Many thanks

so all the members here - this is their first smart phone
I only asked a simple question and I do hope that someone here will share their experience
it will not only help me but also help others that are going through this process

Geoffxx said:
so all the members here - this is their first smart phone
I only asked a simple question and I do hope that someone here will share their experience
it will not only help me but also help others that are going through this process
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I ignored the message, because it is my first Sony Phone.
I broke my Nexus 6 with water....
I could only use my Google backup and my brain.

MartinX3 said:
I ignored the message, because it is my first Sony Phone.
I broke my Nexus 6 with water....
I could only use my Google backup and my brain.
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well at least you replied even though my question remains unanswered
Sorry about your N6

The built-in app, Xperia Transfer Mobile worked fine for me...Phone logs, messages, settings, media, and apps transferred quite smoothly from an Lg to XZ2.

arjunm said:
The built-in app, Xperia Transfer Mobile worked fine for me...Phone logs, messages, settings, media, and apps transferred quite smoothly from an Lg to XZ2.
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cheers for that, including wifi - I have about 110 wifi passcodes, that would be a lot of time spent inputting even half of them lol
wouldn't really matter if both devices were rooted but the new one won't be

arjunm said:
The built-in app, Xperia Transfer Mobile worked fine for me...Phone logs, messages, settings, media, and apps transferred quite smoothly from an Lg to XZ2.
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Geoffxx said:
cheers for that, including wifi - I have about 110 wifi passcodes, that would be a lot of time spent inputting even half of them lol
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Interesting, my "Saved Networks" Wi-Fi settings did not get transferred from my XZ1 to XZ2 with XTM. And I could have sworn that worked seamlessly from XZ -> XZ1.
I ended up using the g Cloud Backup app for that. of course ever network now says it was "saved by g Cloud Backup" or some nonsense which is a bit silly.

eelpout said:
Interesting, my "Saved Networks" Wi-Fi settings did not get transferred from my XZ1 to XZ2 with XTM. And I could have sworn that worked seamlessly from XZ -> XZ1.
I ended up using the g Cloud Backup app for that. of course ever network now says it was "saved by g Cloud Backup" or some nonsense which is a bit silly.
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Thanks for the reply, but - as far as I understand "g cloud backup" requires root access to backup wifi passwords so, yes, you can backup wifi and restore them to a rooted device and that is fine, I have various apps and various copies of my wifi passwords all over the place …………...but my phone is rooted, my new phone will not be rooted so again the question remains unanswered about wifi passwords
I would have thought that the official Sony Transfer App would transfer wifi passwords to a new phone but I have read from several sources and people that is does not, I have also heard some say that it did, the other stuff like contacts - call logs - messages etc is not in question and is routine but it seems there is still conflicting information about wifi passwords.
It is also worth noting that with wifi passwords is not obvious that they were transferred, you need to look hard to establish if they were or go to a previously known hotspot and see if it logs in, it will initially show as disabled in the wifi list but once enabled it will login as normal if the password was transferred
From what I can gather the Xperia transfer app will transfer wifi passwords providing both devices are Xperia and that you choose that option on both phones

Geoffxx said:
Thanks for the reply, but - as far as I understand "g cloud backup" requires root ...
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yeah, it looks like g Cloud didn't transfer the passwords, which is annoying (and I avoid rooting on Sony's because of the DRM stuff). Google itself, with their backup stores them too reportedly, but it seems to be a bit random as to when it actually restores them and there is no way to force it to do so. XTM has worked fine in the past and I may try again to transfer just the minimum and see if I cant get them again.
Edit: well, I guess this explains it. Went back to Xperia Transfer Mobile to see about doing a WiFi direct transfer of only the access points saved. After pairing the devices together, under the list of items to transfer, Apps & Settings->WiFi Networks, it is grayed out and says "No Data". Even though there are over 400 (!) networks listed under "Saved Networks." on the XZ1. So for some reason, XTM doesn't want to transfer them or has some access rights problem (I'm on Oreo 8.0 with both devices).
I read somewhere that XTM doesn't like transferring items that are backed up elsewhere. Maybe it thinks letting Google do it itself under Oreo is the way to go? I'll have to go to the Sony Mobile forums and see if others are having the same issue. Bother.

I will be doing it later and will let you know how I get on, one thing I do know is that the xml file for wifi passwords was backed up to my SD card using the Xperia Transfer App because I looked at them in the folder, I get my new phone later today and will see what happens, if XTA was able to extract the passwords and save them then I see know reason why they cannot be restored to the new phone as it obviously must have access in order to extract them as long as both phones are Sony Xperia, in fact it says that in the app description on PS

just a quick update, I just started up my new XZ2 Premium and went through the startup procedure which just automatically asked me did I want to transfer from my old device which I said yes, paired them using NFC and let them get on with it, all wifi passwords were copied over

My devices are usually rooted, so:
- contacts are exported to vcf & restored in the contacts app (I used to run a radicale server for contacts & calendar, but it wasn't worth it)
- I rarely use the calendar, so nothing there
- wifi: backed up file via root: /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf
- apps & app data: I used to use Helium, but it stopped being reliable & I switched to oandbackups (requires root)
- for internal storage, I just did an adb pull/push, as since Nougat, adb reflects not only the files, but the directory structure as well.

adwinp said:
My devices are usually rooted, so:
- contacts are exported to vcf & restored in the contacts app (I used to run a radicale server for contacts & calendar, but it wasn't worth it)
- I rarely use the calendar, so nothing there
- wifi: backed up file via root: /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf
- apps & app data: I used to use Helium, but it stopped being reliable & I switched to oandbackups (requires root)
- for internal storage, I just did an adb pull/push, as since Nougat, adb reflects not only the files, but the directory structure as well.
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That is great and pretty much what most people would do if both devices were rooted
What would you do if the new phone is not rooted and not much chance of it being rooted any time soon - which is what this thread is about

Newbie looking for Samsung4 Smartwatch Apps

I just received a Samsung4 smartwatch and am looking for more apps not available on Google Play! Primarily Social Media apps and Facebook Messenger. LOL. That's where I chat from and those contacts are not in the other message apps - Google Android Messages, Samsung Messages (which is best to use?) I am here to learn how to download the apps listed on this site. I have some IT experience (IT Systems Technician for 16 years/IT Systems Analyst 2 years) but haven't tinkered with a smartwatch. I did brick a phone back in the day so I'm a little scared to mess with my brand-new watch! I did install the Moviebox APK (Kpanda?) on my smartphone, but it didn't require any other software. I already opened Developer Tools - ADB - Debug over WIFI (the IP starts with 10) From what I understand, I have to make changes in Device Manager for the phone, install APK software programs to my laptop (are these free or do I have to pay for it?), download the apps I want from your catalogue and install to the watch? I will watch the videos and follow along! And there is no risk of damaging my watch, like maybe I select something wrong and wipe it out or brick it?

Unfortunately, I don't have a correct IP address - Debug over WIFI shows 10.0.0.194, therefore, I cannot proceed with downloading APKs from Uptodown from either Bugjaeger or Easy Fire Tools. I am connected to Wi-Fi and not getting a 192. IP. There is no notification request sent to a device. When I click continue it says "Authorization Failed". Is there another setting I need to change?
Update: I figured it out. My old internet provider used to begin with 192 but this one starts with 10. Then when I click on the file that I want to install I have to click a prompt on the watch to allow it. All good!

Welcome to the XDA forums! Looks like you found the Samsung Galaxy watch 4 section!
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