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Hi, i recently bought an optimus 4x hd and i was shocked about the battery life of it the first week. with the same usage pattern it lasts half as long as my old desire hd, tho it has double the battery-capacity. then i tried some power tweaks from the dev section, lg gearbox app, removing lg stock apps and so on. now the phone idle takes 30 % of the power, and android system takes 40 %. i am using the 10h european firmware and now the hole phone is almost unusable.
is there any way to remove all added apps and scripts to get to the real stock state ?
i mean factory wipe in recovery doesnt delete everything, the 4.2 system clock i installed is still present after wipe for example.
right now this phone really freaks me out, nice hardware with a *poop* of a firmware on it. if i would´ve known theres no android development for it after all before buying it, i never would have made this mistake.
if anyone is feeling the same of having solutions, please help.
i would also like to do the same as my o4x keeps rebooting by itself and going back to home screen when using apps when on google play and web browser.
Henka85 said:
Hi, i recently bought an optimus 4x hd and i was shocked about the battery life of it the first week. with the same usage pattern it lasts half as long as my old desire hd, tho it has double the battery-capacity. then i tried some power tweaks from the dev section, lg gearbox app, removing lg stock apps and so on. now the phone idle takes 30 % of the power, and android system takes 40 %. i am using the 10h european firmware and now the hole phone is almost unusable.
is there any way to remove all added apps and scripts to get to the real stock state ?
i mean factory wipe in recovery doesnt delete everything, the 4.2 system clock i installed is still present after wipe for example.
right now this phone really freaks me out, nice hardware with a *poop* of a firmware on it. if i would´ve known theres no android development for it after all before buying it, i never would have made this mistake.
if anyone is feeling the same of having solutions, please help.
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there are (as far as i know) three ways to do it:
1) (my favorite) restore a cwm backup you made before you've flashed the tweaks
2) flashing the kdz files
3) emergency restore (or sth. similar) by the lg software
so, good luck :good:
Henka85 said:
Hi, i recently bought an optimus 4x hd and i was shocked about the battery life of it the first week. with the same usage pattern it lasts half as long as my old desire hd, tho it has double the battery-capacity. then i tried some power tweaks from the dev section, lg gearbox app, removing lg stock apps and so on. now the phone idle takes 30 % of the power, and android system takes 40 %. i am using the 10h european firmware and now the hole phone is almost unusable.
is there any way to remove all added apps and scripts to get to the real stock state ?
i mean factory wipe in recovery doesnt delete everything, the 4.2 system clock i installed is still present after wipe for example.
right now this phone really freaks me out, nice hardware with a *poop* of a firmware on it. if i would´ve known theres no android development for it after all before buying it, i never would have made this mistake.
if anyone is feeling the same of having solutions, please help.
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Dop3KinG said:
i would also like to do the same as my o4x keeps rebooting by itself and going back to home screen when using apps when on google play and web browser.
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My advice is, downgrade to v10a, factory reset, upgrade to the desired version (probably after downgrade the software update will ask you for upgrade).
Guys this worked for me. Connect mobile in software download mode by connecting your Mobile to PC by pressing volume down button without battery and launch lg software tool, go to recover mobile option enter imei number and when your mobile model is confirmed replace your battery and then update. Done you will have official version and Updated version.
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
amuu407 said:
Guys this worked for me. Connect mobile in software download mode by connecting your Mobile to PC by pressing volume down button without battery and launch lg software tool, go to recover mobile option enter imei number and when your mobile model is confirmed replace your battery and then update. Done you will have official version and Updated version.
what software do i use?
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Leave it to your support tool. It does everything for you.
Sent from my LG-P880
Before I start describing my problem - let me just state that I am 100% sure that everything is perfectly fine with my brand new Gear VR as it worked tonight flawlessly on my my wife's Note 4 - running the same 5.0.1 OS, as my Note 4 (T-mobile).
Problem is to get *MY* Note 4 working with the Gear VR.
While hers is working just fine - mine gets stuck on Health and Safety warning screen!
Just like with my wife's - when I connected my Note 4 to the Gear VR for the first time, with a nice blue and white (already working) VR/3D image it prompted me to take it off and install the appropriate software. I did and reconnected the Note to the gear VR and was awaiting the Welcome screen.
Sure enough - after the usual beep the screen came on:
a) - 1 small white spinning circle - IN THE DEAD CENTER - as it should be
b) - then the intro with the elliptical shape ferry dust animation that follows with instructions
to adjust the focus with the center ring on top.
Note: this image with focusing instructions is split to the left and right part of the screen with center being EMPTY !! I cannot turn around and look around in the room like I can if it works. The image is flat/still.
c) - then the HEALTH and SAFETY warning screen comes on.
Note: this warning image is also split with partial text thrown to the left and right part of the screen with center being EMPTY !!
More importantly - I do not see the small blue cross with which I should to aim with my head on the blue Oculus oval logo ("Look here to acknowledge" - in order to leave this screen and go to Oculus Home....and the "Look here to acknowledge" is placed to the very right of the screen, where I actually only see the word 'Look" I have to actually take the VR partially off , look deeper to the right to see "" here to acknowledge"
Both of our Note 4s run 5.0.1. We just got the VR today and installed Oculus software on both phones today. I am really puzzled why it works on her phone on not on my Note 4.
(to make things worse - her phone is getting sold and shipped in 2 days and now my Note 4 cannot get passed the "Health and safety warning" screen.
Please advise any help would be appreciated.
I also should mention that:
- a) I tried to uninstall the Oculus software, wiped cache partition, re-installed Oculus Software
- b) my phone is rooted, but it is running the stock ROM and our phones are identical as far as:
- identical Android version: 5.0.1
- identical baseband: N910TUVU1COD6
- identical Kernel 3.10.40-4739134
Tue April 21 11:47:32 KST 2015
- identical build number: LRX22C.N910TUVU1COD6
- identical 'SE for Android Status"
- identical "Security software version"
- identical Knox version
I would not think that rooting ist the problem as I have heard that many other users are running Gear VR
on rooted Note 4s and I also think that if rooting was the problem, then it would either run or not run at all.
The fact that it starts into the split image is puzzling me and I really do not want to do a full factory reset on my phone and re-install and activate all my apps. (I will if I have to, but hoping that there is a simple solution
to this before I go that route).
Thanks again in advance for your input.
I had this problem but it was due to the fact that I was using a custom rom/kernel, went back to stock and it's ok again.. don't know what could be causing you that problem...
tyraelasd said:
I had this problem but it was due to the fact that I was using a custom rom/kernel, went back to stock and it's ok again.. don't know what could be causing you that problem...
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Did you have the SAME problem where the Health and Safety warning image was
split to the left and right and middle of the image was empty?
I think I may have to reset the phone, install Oculus and run the VR and then I will try to
root again (using stock ROM).
WatchFan1 said:
Did you have the SAME problem where the Health and Safety warning image was
split to the left and right and middle of the image was empty?
I think I may have to reset the phone, install Oculus and run the VR and then I will try to
root again (using stock ROM).
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Yes, the same exact problem. Solved going back to stock.
Thank you for the reply.
After you went stock and reinstalled Oculus and everything went well - did you try root again?
As much as I obviously want to run the Gear VR, I'd hate to lose the root. (With root, Greenify and other tweaks, my phone runs like a champ and battery is phenomenal)...I really need to hear from guys here that run rooted N4 and Gaar Vr and see what they did (the sequence of install / root etc.)
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Thank you for the reply.
After you went stock and reinstalled Oculus and everything went well - did you try root again?
As much as I obviously want to run the Gear VR, I'd hate to lose the root. (With root, Greenify and other tweaks, my phone runs like a champ and battery is phenomenal)...I really need to hear from guys here that run rooted N4 and Gaar Vr and see what they did (the sequence of install / root etc.)
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I'm rooted and that doesn't cause any trouble with the VR. I'm with the s6 though... can't talk for the N4. Now, I'm not so happy that I can't install custom roms or custom kernels and get the VR working, I've always been a custom kernel/rom kind of guy so this makes me sad.
Do you plan upgrading to 5.1.1 anytime soon? I haven't been to find the answer if the VR works flawlessly with 5.1.1.
Thank you for your reply, tyraelasd !
I hope to hear from someone that runs rooted Note 4 and GVR.
Here is my last 'Hail Mary Pass' attempt to solicit some more opinions before the weekend as I am not looking forward at all to the hours I will waste on wiping and resetting my phone :lol:
The same build number and same kernels between my wife's and my N4 still make me think that rooting should not be causing this, but it looks that unless some other fix comes up, I am going to have to do factory reset (un-root) and reinstall and reconfigure all the apps this weekend
Is anyone here running rooted Note 4 and Gear VR ?
If yes, what was your sequence of rooting, installing Oculus SW etc?
If you are rooted, what build, ROM and kernel are you running?
Thanks in advance!
Hi I am in Hungary I just got the update a couple of days ago. It was 8 before and now it is 9 and EMUI 9.
Since the update I had 1 random restart and for me it is less smooth. My main issue is I use the double tap on the recent apps button to go back to the previous app a lot and it is not really working always or I have to do it quite slow and not the same as I did and it stuck and have to do again and very annoying. It is also ignoring some apps to go back to like it was not used at all. And there are other minor bugs like in a game I double tap and it makes a screenshot. I know the double knock thing I use it a lot but before it was not this sensitive and it was doing only for knocks and not taps. I was hoping so much the new EMUI 9 would support 3rd party apps notifications on the AOD but no. I am disappointed. My last phone was a S galaxy s7 and they made this integration so quickly. I have a feeling we are abandoned. Anybody have some news about this? I miss it so much. The phone is faster a bit anyway and the battery time is great. I deleted the cache partition. So what is your opinion about these things? Thanks guys.
9.0.0.163
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Try format factory reset, im in the same release and its working great everything
is this in use said:
Hi I am in Hungary I just got the update a couple of days ago. It was 8 before and now it is 9 and EMUI 9.
Since the update I had 1 random restart and for me it is less smooth. My main issue is I use the double tap on the recent apps button to go back to the previous app a lot and it is not really working always or I have to do it quite slow and not the same as I did and it stuck and have to do again and very annoying. It is also ignoring some apps to go back to like it was not used at all. And there are other minor bugs like in a game I double tap and it makes a screenshot. I know the double knock thing I use it a lot but before it was not this sensitive and it was doing only for knocks and not taps. I was hoping so much the new EMUI 9 would support 3rd party apps notifications on the AOD but no. I am disappointed. My last phone was a S galaxy s7 and they made this integration so quickly. I have a feeling we are abandoned. Anybody have some news about this? I miss it so much. The phone is faster a bit anyway and the battery time is great. I deleted the cache partition. So what is your opinion about these things? Thanks guys.
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Luis2k33-XDA said:
Try format factory reset, im in the same release and its working great everything
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Thank you. I will do that!
I did it but after pie update, phone is worse.
Especially internet connection and general speed is worse
draligus said:
I did it but after pie update, phone is worse.
Especially internet connection and general speed is worse
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Try to reinstall with the OTG method, should work, in my case was same, the first installation felt laggy, but after i repeat the process, works smoothy
one annoyance i found in emui 9 is that now the default sim for sms will follow default internet sim, not the call one like how it was in emui 8,
this cause issue for banking app that using background sms for verification,
the app will say am using incorrect sim card if i use it with an internet connection from second sim.
this wasnt an issue in emui 8.
i hope this is just a coding bugs instead of purposely made by huawei
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I have already reinstalled it.
After 2nd installation, i also made factory reset.
For me the battery life is awful... Last night i have lost 30% in 8h hours!!!
I have wiped cache partition.
I don't have any issue after update... Phone works perfect, camera perfect, battery perfect... after update I did FR
otonieru said:
one annoyance i found in emui 9 is that now the default sim for sms will follow default internet sim, not the call one like how it was in emui 8,
this cause issue for banking app that using background sms for verification,
the app will say am using incorrect sim card if i use it with an internet connection from second sim.
this wasnt an issue in emui 8.
i hope this is just a coding bugs instead of purposely made by huawei
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We are on the same release, and i dont have any issue with banking app. Everything also running perfect. The only issue i found after 168 update is night mode camera. It become noisy and blurry especially under shadow and dark area. Very disappointed. It wasnt happen in emui 8
edintl said:
We are on the same release, and i dont have any issue with banking app. Everything also running perfect. The only issue i found after 168 update is night mode camera. It become noisy and blurry especially under shadow and dark area. Very disappointed. It wasnt happen in emui 8
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banking app itself is fine as long as i use internet from the sim that i used for banking verification as well,
it become an issue when i use internet from another sim. the app will unable to send verification sms from the correct registered sim, since in emui 9, default sms sim is following the one used as default for data in dual sim setting, while in emui 8, it follow the one used for call.
kinda hard to explain it in a word, lol. But this is common problem with dual phone sim, and thats why i expect all oem to actually give us setting to set default sim for sending sms, now we can only set default for data and call.
I am with locked bootloader.
I have updated my p20 pro to pie via SD card.
Now, is it possible to return to official oreo without unlocking bootloader..
Thanks
It's same the problem with my P20 Pro After I had updated to EMUI9 the Chrome app didn't sync well everything.. My old bookmarks are empty also! It also flashed off in the Google app before, I reset to factory for twice. And then is turn to Google Play store's apps update to update repeated.. It's like you never did it :silly::silly: I'm thinking about take it back to 8 through the Huawei Hisuite.. I think the Android 9 Pie comes with EMUI 9 is not ready for now... By the way, I'm from Vietnam, a Chinese.
(2) I've just tried to up to EMUI9 one more time.. But this time my phone didn't get matters at all, it's running well!
- Above all issues didn't see any more :laugh:
Things I did just simply returned to the 8 ver through HiSuite, then I used it for the ordinary days, logged in Google accounts also..
At before I was using Chinese language for the Huawei Vietnam device.. So I think it was wrong during updating something just like that, in this time I changed device back to Vietnamese language(root) & update to EMUI9 with Hicare app in the phone........... I saw something after it had updated was the update's log is writing Vietnamese while my phone was changing into Chinese language.. So funny about it! But the most important thing was everything well! No battery draining quickly too, thank gods!
- The present patch:
9.0.0.168(C636E2R1P12patch01)
- The present version:
9.0.0.168(C636E2R1P12)
*My suggestion you do not put it in Factory Reset, do not change to other locations through changing language in the phone, update it to 9EMUI based on the lastest ver of EMUI8(local) with the patches if it has. Good luck to you..
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Could you explain how to do this please?
I did factory reset my p20 pro and it seems it is the same. I have the same problems just like after the update. 1. Double tap on recent apps squere button (go to previous app instantly) is laggy often stuck on the card view instead of reloading the previous app immediately. 2. Touch screen less responsive, many times I can see a blueish 'sparking' mark or line where I touch or swipe the screen means the system detected my touch but it is not linked to the OS properly. Anyway the battery and everything else seems good. So what is otg method I tried to search but it seems not so common or they call different, and anyway how can a factory reset different than the other FR? thank you guys and happy new year!
Hi All
I wonder if I could ask a favour? The stock camera app I have on EMUI 8 (5th November update) has no method of saving the photos other than internal storage. Does the camera app on Pie have an option to save to an external location eg OTG SD card?
Thanks in anticipation...
Steve
picitup said:
Hi All
I wonder if I could ask a favour? The stock camera app I have on EMUI 8 (5th November update) has no method of saving the photos other than internal storage. Does the camera app on Pie have an option to save to an external location eg OTG SD card?
Thanks in anticipation...
Steve
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No, it doesnt have that option
Update with OTG metod and wipe, working beautiful! No issue with Pie so far!
masze said:
Update with OTG metod and wipe, working beautiful! No issue with Pie so far!
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Could you please explain how you did an otg update. Many thanks
blakeboro said:
Could you please explain how you did an otg update. Many thanks
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I used this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...ide-how-to-update-to-emui-9-c432-l09-t3883557
Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
Jwsail said:
Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
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I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
Gary02468 said:
There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
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Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
John
Treasarion said:
I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
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Thanks for that. I'll keep looking into it.
Cheers for now,
John
Jwsail said:
Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
Gary02468 said:
No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
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I find the new security update really interesting.
Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
clax6 said:
Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
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There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
Gary02468 said:
There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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There's proof that some of it has happened and that all of it is easily accomplished using known exploits. What you do about it is a tradeoff, similar to home-security issues. You can leave your front door unlocked and probably not get robbed; or you can use locks, alarms etc. and possibly still get robbed. The tighter your security, the less likely it is for there to be a breach; but tighter security comes at a cost (money, convenience, etc.). So you need to weigh what you stand to lose against what you stand to gain, and that depends on individual circumstances.
Call recording and Swift installer support. Two biggest reasons for staying on Oreo for me.
This update is so bad I can only compare it to Windows ME & Vista. I downgraded thanking God because my bootloader stayed in v1.0.
It really seems like the Note 9 hardware is not built for this One UI Pie.
I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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In your case you don't need a factory reset, you updated your device straight out of the box which is just as good as a clean install. A factory reset sometimes helps users who have been running apps for a while on the previous version, and restoring user data causes system instability due to the OS major upgrade.
Also, I've done exactly the same thing 3 months ago, and haven't had a single issue [emoji846]
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gruuvin said:
Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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You won't have an issue as you had a new phone with no previous data on it.
Ps of you factory reset a device it won't go back to the OS version it came out of the box. It will remain on the latest version of the update.
Updated to Pie immediately after turning on the Note 9 for the first time, then installed my apps, then installed my sim. This is THE SMOOTHEST, best OS, best battery efficiency, best looking.....
..... it's the best!
is the note 9 Pie's camera quality improved? Still staying on Oreo for months as I have not ever heard of praises for improved cameras and still some users need to install GCam but seems note 9 Pie does not support GCam ?
I've given this about a month now. I'm on Verizon but bought my S10e directly from Samsung, so no bloat.
Since the update these are my complaints
1. Clock on left, can't find an app to move it back to the right. (How stupid is Android / Samsung for forcing the clock in the first spot notifications appear?)
2. I can no longer swipe right on the virtual home button to switch back to the most recent app. (REALLY hate not having this anymore)
3. Can no longer adjust the grid pattern to be 3 wide for toggles when pulling the notification shade down. This means, if you have a toggle on the 6th spot on the initial toggle pull down, it CAN ONLY BE the second toggle on the second row when pulling the full list of toggles down. Super annoying if you've always had your flashlight on the far right
4. May or may not have been a change in 10, but only after updating to 10 did I notice I can no longer have exempt devices and block devices that have the WiFi password in the native hotspot app. It's all or nothing now. If this is in fact a change in 10, Android / Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. (Would love to know if this was in fact a change with v10)
5. Lock screen no longer shows Fast Charging status in perpetuity, it shows for a few seconds then reduces to just saying "charging." This phone has always been finicky with fast chargers so I rely on this information often
So the question: Can I flash back to Android P / 9 and prevent my phone from every taking 10 without having to root? I do not want a carrier-specifc firmware.
spearoid said:
I've given this about a month now. I'm on Verizon but bought my S10e directly from Samsung, so no bloat.
Since the update these are my complaints
1. Clock on left, can't find an app to move it back to the right. (How stupid is Android / Samsung for forcing the clock in the first spot notifications appear?)
2. I can no longer swipe right on the virtual home button to switch back to the most recent app. (REALLY hate not having this anymore)
3. Can no longer adjust the grid pattern to be 3 wide for toggles when pulling the notification shade down. This means, if you have a toggle on the 6th spot on the initial toggle pull down, it CAN ONLY BE the second toggle on the second row when pulling the full list of toggles down. Super annoying if you've always had your flashlight on the far right
4. May or may not have been a change in 10, but only after updating to 10 did I notice I can no longer have exempt devices and block devices that have the WiFi password in the native hotspot app. It's all or nothing now. If this is in fact a change in 10, Android / Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. (Would love to know if this was in fact a change with v10)
5. Lock screen no longer shows Fast Charging status in perpetuity, it shows for a few seconds then reduces to just saying "charging." This phone has always been finicky with fast chargers so I rely on this information often
So the question: Can I flash back to Android P / 9 and prevent my phone from every taking 10 without having to root? I do not want a carrier-specifc firmware.
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Finally someone else besides me that thinks Android 10 is completely worthless! Yes, you can flash back to Android 9, just flash the last Android 9 build for U1 firmware if you don't want carrier specific and freeze the forced update without root with the app "ccswe manager" found on the play store. Do note that flash back to 9 will probably erase everything too.
Someone, please call the wambulance for them 2
Player04 said:
Someone, please call the wambulance for them 2
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Haha, I like that someone thanked this post ?
If you're one who blindly takes all updates and is happy, more power to ya bro. ?
Let me guess, you loved Windows Vista when it was released
StoneyJSG said:
Finally someone else besides me that thinks Android 10 is completely worthless! Yes, you can flash back to Android 9, just flash the last Android 9 build for U1 firmware if you don't want carrier specific and freeze the forced update without root with the app "ccswe manager" found on the play store. Do note that flash back to 9 will probably erase everything too.
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Thanks! Yeah, I won't love having to set everything back up, but it will be nice to get my phone working better again!
spearoid said:
Thanks! Yeah, I won't love having to set everything back up, but it will be nice to get my phone working better again!
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I would suggest you to flash Android 9 back using the "HOME_CSC" package in Odin (not the "CSC" one), this way it will act as an OTA update and keep your data (I used it to update my S7 coz it was rooted and I hadn't OTA updates anymore...). Anyway, take a backup before with Samsung Cloud just to keep your data safe in case something wrong happen. Idk really if this trick works on a downgrade (Android 10 to 9 in this case) but you should give it a try
spearoid said:
Haha, I like that someone thanked this post ?
If your one who blindly takes all updates and is happy, more power to ya bro. ?
Let me guess, you loved Windows Vista when it was released
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Do you whine about everything new that you don't like or know how to use?
Tagdu17 said:
I would suggest you to flash Android 9 back using the "HOME_CSC" package in Odin (not the "CSC" one), this way it will act as an OTA update and keep your data (I used it to update my S7 coz it was rooted and I hadn't OTA updates anymore...). Anyway, take a backup before with Samsung Cloud just to keep your data safe in case something wrong happen. Idk really if this trick works on a downgrade (Android 10 to 9 in this case) but you should give it a try
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Actually, it doesn't matter if you flash using Home_CSC or just CSC, you'll have to wipe everything if you decide to downgrade
Really weird, i have android 10 and all the features you are talking about
spearoid said:
Haha, I like that someone thanked this post ?
If your one who blindly takes all updates and is happy, more power to ya bro.
Let me guess, you loved Windows Vista when it was released
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I updated every new released firmware. I dont have any problem with android 10. As matter of fact, i like android 10. Seems alot quicker than 9.
algnerd said:
Actually, it doesn't matter if you flash using Home_CSC or just CSC, you'll have to wipe everything if you decide to downgrade
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Yeah I just read it on another XDA thread yesterday but it wasn't useless to try it anyway xD
Player04 said:
I updated every new released firmware. I dont have any problem with android 10. As matter of fact, i like android 10. Seems alot quicker than 9.
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But battery drains faster... Even if I like One UI 2.0, this drain and some little bugs here and there are really annoying !
Tagdu17 said:
I would suggest you to flash Android 9 back using the "HOME_CSC" package in Odin (not the "CSC" one), this way it will act as an OTA update and keep your data (I used it to update my S7 coz it was rooted and I hadn't OTA updates anymore...). Anyway, take a backup before with Samsung Cloud just to keep your data safe in case something wrong happen. Idk really if this trick works on a downgrade (Android 10 to 9 in this case) but you should give it a try
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So I've finally gotten around to trying this.... And it's been a while since my flashing days... Used to be a regular activity of mine.... But this time around, every thing I try fails. Downloaded several firmwares from Sammobile.... The XAA and XAS CSC's..... I have the unlocked direct-from-Samsung model.... And Odin craps out with Auth! (Fail) something to that effect.
I've tried AP only, all 5 files, omitting Home CSC, omitting only BL... Running Odin as admin, not running as admin.... Only thing I haven't tried is a different USB cable n.. Have actually seen that matter in the old days
Makes me think my phone simply won't take this older version of firmware, but it seems that the research indicates this should be possible
spearoid said:
So I've finally gotten around to trying this.... And it's been a while since my flashing days... Used to be a regular activity of mine.... But this time around, every thing I try fails. Downloaded several firmwares from Sammobile.... The XAA and XAS CSC's..... I have the unlocked direct-from-Samsung model.... And Odin craps out with Auth! (Fail) something to that effect.
I've tried AP only, all 5 files, omitting Home CSC, omitting only BL... Running Odin as admin, not running as admin.... Only thing I haven't tried is a different USB cable n.. Have actually seen that matter in the old days
Makes me think my phone simply won't take this older version of firmware, but it seems that the research indicates this should be possible
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I'm pretty sure you must use the CSC file and not the HOME_CSC. This will erase your data but if you really want to downgrade to Android 9, then that's the way to go...
Btw, if you did the February OTA update YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO PIE. Sadely, this OTA bumped a new bootloader version and if you installed it your phone will stay on Android 10 forever..
I mean, if your actual BL is like G970U1UEU4XXXX and not G970U1UES3XXXX, then it's not possible to downgrade.your S10
I actuallt froze the OTA after the January update so I can go back to Pie if I want. Not thrilled about having to wipe everything and start over if I do go back though.
I am in the same situation
So if I have bootloader 4 I can't go back to Android 9?