Note 8 T-Mob downgrade after update to Pie Beta - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hey All, any chance of getting a step by step to downgrade back to CRK1 or latest Oreo build. I attempted to do so, using the firmware from SamMobile, and it failed during the "Updating System" step with an "Error!" message at 32%. Odin had registered a pass. I installed the Ap, Bl, Cp, and the clean CSC. There was only 30ish percent of battery remaining if that would make a difference. I also had the December update installed when I updated to the DLR6 version.

pzzamakr1999 said:
Hey All, any chance of getting a step by step to downgrade back to CRK1 or latest Oreo build. I attempted to do so, using the firmware from SamMobile, and it failed during the "Updating System" step with an "Error!" message at 32%. Odin had registered a pass. I installed the Ap, Bl, Cp, and the clean CSC. There was only 30ish percent of battery remaining if that would make a difference. I also had the December update installed when I updated to the DLR6 version.
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logs from odin? Or any error code or anything?

Nothing from Odin at all. Odin registered it as a Pass. And I'm unsure how I would pull logs from the phone. Once the "Error!" appears during update, the phone will enter a bootloop unless I hold down the power button to enter Recovery. I was able to successfully enter Recovery, reinstall the Pie Beta Update from my SD card, and the phone works fine again. However, I do use Samsung Pay, and I've noticed that service has suffered considerably, so I'd like to go back to Oreo for the moment.

pzzamakr1999 said:
Nothing from Odin at all. Odin registered it as a Pass. And I'm unsure how I would pull logs from the phone. Once the "Error!" appears during update, the phone will enter a bootloop unless I hold down the power button to enter Recovery. I was able to successfully enter Recovery, reinstall the Pie Beta Update from my SD card, and the phone works fine again. However, I do use Samsung Pay, and I've noticed that service has suffered considerably, so I'd like to go back to Oreo for the moment.
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I wouldnt be suprised if samsung locked going back same what they did with nougat/oreo . I cant help u, sry

pzzamakr1999 said:
Hey All, any chance of getting a step by step to downgrade back to CRK1 or latest Oreo build. I attempted to do so, using the firmware from SamMobile, and it failed during the "Updating System" step with an "Error!" message at 32%. Odin had registered a pass. I installed the Ap, Bl, Cp, and the clean CSC. There was only 30ish percent of battery remaining if that would make a difference. I also had the December update installed when I updated to the DLR6 version.
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Which ODIN are you using? Make sure you're using the modded 3.13.1. Try this: Uncheck the auto-reboot option on ODIN. Flash the Oreo firmware and let it finish. Once it's done, manually reboot into recovery and perform a factory reset. Then boot into the OS.
ScaleneVirus288 said:
I wouldnt be suprised if samsung locked going back same what they did with nougat/oreo . I cant help u, sry
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That only happens when they update the bootloader version. It has nothing to do with the OS version. The Pie leaks are still on the v5 bootloader.

Ok, I will give that a try. I will admit, I'm really enjoying Pie, and its user interface tweaks. I just may forego Samsung Pay and wait until Pie is out of Beta.
On that note, is there any way to install the old radio and use the Oreo radio rather than the one bundled with Pie, assuming that Pie has a new radio bundled. Because that is kinda the Beta killer.
And last comment, once Pie is out of Beta, what will I have to do to upgrade to the "Release" version. Will it be an Odin install, or should an OTA take care of it?

pzzamakr1999 said:
Ok, I will give that a try. I will admit, I'm really enjoying Pie, and its user interface tweaks. I just may forego Samsung Pay and wait until Pie is out of Beta.
On that note, is there any way to install the old radio and use the Oreo radio rather than the one bundled with Pie, assuming that Pie has a new radio bundled. Because that is kinda the Beta killer.
And last comment, once Pie is out of Beta, what will I have to do to upgrade to the "Release" version. Will it be an Odin install, or should an OTA take care of it?
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Also check the USB port, use the older USB port this has happened to me or PC and see the phone is probably not compatible with newest USB port....
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

pzzamakr1999 said:
Ok, I will give that a try. I will admit, I'm really enjoying Pie, and its user interface tweaks. I just may forego Samsung Pay and wait until Pie is out of Beta.
On that note, is there any way to install the old radio and use the Oreo radio rather than the one bundled with Pie, assuming that Pie has a new radio bundled. Because that is kinda the Beta killer.
And last comment, once Pie is out of Beta, what will I have to do to upgrade to the "Release" version. Will it be an Odin install, or should an OTA take care of it?
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What issues are you having with Spay? It seems to work for everyone else, me included.
No, you can't flash a different radio.
Not sure yet what will be required when when the official drops. Won't know until it drops.

So the Pay app opens fine, and it authenticates the card without issue. It will also allow me to put my fingerprint in, and then have the countdown start. However, it doesn't seem to enable the mag spoofer or the nfc chip, and when put next to a mag reader or Pay system, nothing happens. The countdown will continue, and will restart if I ask it to. But again, the phone doesnt seem to do anything.

pzzamakr1999 said:
So the Pay app opens fine, and it authenticates the card without issue. It will also allow me to put my fingerprint in, and then have the countdown start. However, it doesn't seem to enable the mag spoofer or the nfc chip, and when put next to a mag reader or Pay system, nothing happens. The countdown will continue, and will restart if I ask it to. But again, the phone doesnt seem to do anything.
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Weird. I'll have to try it. I thought it was working, but now I'm not sure. I use my Gear S3 so often to pay, now I'm not sure LOL.

Update on the effort to revert back to CRK1.
Used the modified Odin, and un-checked auto-reboot. Phone remained in Download mode.
I could not figure out a way to go from Download mode to recovery mode directly. If someone knows how to do this, it would be appreciated if you could let me know.
However, rather than the "Error!" message, I received a "Erasing" message. Than the phone rebooted, and just kept rebooting, going from T-Mobile splash screen to Samsung and back over and over, with some optimizing apps screens thrown in for good measure.
So I tried again with auto-reboot on, and this time received the "Error!" message, and was able to go into recovery once that happened.
The odd thing is, nothing on my phone was changed, other than having to redo the Samsung biometrics for security. All of my apps and accounts and emails were already there, undeleted.

One more update on the S-Pay. After reinstalling the Update.zip from my SD card in Recovery, iIt does seem like there may have been a change. It is now doing the vibrate thing, which I don't think it was doing before. I will put it to the test later this week.

Downgrade Successful
Performed Factory Reset from Phone menus. (not doing so kept resulting in an unauthorized factory reset prompt)
Performed Factory Reset from Recovery Menu.
Cleared Cache through Recovery Menu
Used Patched Odin
Kept Auto-Restart Checked
Used SamMobile CRK1
Phone restarted successfully.

pzzamakr1999 said:
Performed Factory Reset from Phone menus. (not doing so kept resulting in an unauthorized factory reset prompt)
Performed Factory Reset from Recovery Menu.
Cleared Cache through Recovery Menu
Used Patched Odin
Kept Auto-Restart Checked
Used SamMobile CRK1
Phone restarted successfully.
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Yes! I'm sorry I thought I told you to try a factory reset. You have to factory reset when downgrading. Otherwise bootloop city. Sorry I wasn't more clear, I could've saved you some frustration.
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I just went back and re-read my posts. I never said try a factroy reset first. Grrr...I'm so sorry!

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yes! I'm sorry I thought I told you to try a factory reset. You have to factory reset when downgrading. Otherwise bootloop city. Sorry I wasn't more clear, I could've saved you some frustration.
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I just went back and re-read my posts. I never said try a factroy reset first. Grrr...I'm so sorry!
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No worries, and I did very much appreciate the help. I should have realized that that should come first. I was a bit frustrated and wasn't thinking logically. It was actually the "fixing apps" message you get when you upgrade that clued me in I wasn't properly resetting the phone prior to install.
Regardless, its all good, and now that I know how to do it, I'll be more inclined to try these out in the future.

Any specific reason for the downgrade? Anything not working?

Camera issues on pie beta
My ar emoji not working on this pie update and sometimes force closes any1 else having this issue

Fitted2 said:
My ar emoji not working on this pie update and sometimes force closes any1 else having this issue
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Yes

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yes
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You downgraded because no AR emoji? And what force closes are you having?

dami00976 said:
You downgraded because no AR emoji? And what force closes are you having?
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I never said I downgraded.

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How to get the Beta "Update" on your Note 9 U1.

So I bought my note 9 three weeks ago, it was ATT carrier branded, since I don't need/like any carrier bloat, I just flashed the unlocked firmware to it, until today its working with no problems at all.
So today I learned that the One UI beta came out, I log on my Samsung+ app I got the banner and hit register but nothing... it will simply send me back to the start, probably because i'm offshore who knows. well I started looking around tried with a VPN, tried spoofing my location, clear cache, clear data ( did this multiple times ) but it will simply not let me join the beta.
So I keep on looking and I find this website https://firmware.science/ it will allow you to download the OTA file and flash it using recovery mode!
Sure I wont get the otas automatically on my phone, but I can simply download then again and flash then as they come out.
I hope this helps anyone like that just wanted to install the latest software!
Note!:
This doesn't mean that your are part of the beta, but means that you will have the beta software on your phone!
sFranKv said:
So I bought my note 9 three weeks ago, it was ATT carrier branded, since I don't need/like any carrier bloat, I just flashed the unlocked firmware to it, until today its working with no problems at all.
So today I learned that the One UI beta came out, I log on my Samsung+ app I got the banner and hit register but nothing... it will simply send me back to the start, probably because i'm offshore who knows. well I started looking around tried with a VPN, tried spoofing my location, clear cache, clear data ( did this multiple times ) but it will simply not let me join the beta.
So I keep on looking and I find this website https://firmware.science/ it will allow you to download the OTA file and flash it using recovery mode!
Sure I wont get the otas automatically on my phone, but I can simply download then again and flash then as they come out.
I hope this helps anyone like that just wanted to install the latest software!
Note!:
This doesn't mean that your are part of the beta, but means that you will have the beta software on your phone!
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Does doing that wipe my device? Or do I get to keep my stuff?
I wanted to add this for anyone who kept tapping the register button but was simply returned to the banner like nothing happened.
If this is happening and you dont get a toast msg saying "thank you for your support of the One UI Beta" and no OTA follows, try deleting the (beta) Samsung + app data, rebooting and try again.
I tried all day before doing this and got the OTA 5 mins after wiping app data.
Nachorl250 said:
Does doing that wipe my device? Or do I get to keep my stuff?
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Nope, its a regular update so no need to wipe anything
Already try my apps and games (fortnite, arena of valor) and they work perfect!
Ed Murray said:
I wanted to add this for anyone who kept tapping the register button but was simply returned to the banner like nothing happened.
If this is happening and you dont get a toast msg saying "thank you for your support of the One UI Beta" and no OTA follows, try deleting the (beta) Samsung + app data, rebooting and try again.
I tried all day before doing this and got the OTA 5 mins after wiping app data.
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Tried everything, to be honest I was just sure that the Samsung+ app would check where you are in the world and if your not on the US it will simply not let you join the beta, the method above worked flawlessly for me!, I'm running One UI at the moment with the dark theme and its awesome!
sFranKv said:
So I bought my note 9 three weeks ago, it was ATT carrier branded, since I don't need/like any carrier bloat, I just flashed the unlocked firmware to it, until today its working with no problems at all.
So today I learned that the One UI beta came out, I log on my Samsung+ app I got the banner and hit register but nothing... it will simply send me back to the start, probably because i'm offshore who knows. well I started looking around tried with a VPN, tried spoofing my location, clear cache, clear data ( did this multiple times ) but it will simply not let me join the beta.
So I keep on looking and I find this website https://firmware.science/ it will allow you to download the OTA file and flash it using recovery mode!
Sure I wont get the otas automatically on my phone, but I can simply download then again and flash then as they come out.
I hope this helps anyone like that just wanted to install the latest software!
Note!:
This doesn't mean that your are part of the beta, but means that you will have the beta software on your phone!
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I have the N960U (T-Mobile) and I am on version ARK1. My version isn't in the list of options? Or will this not work for the 960U from T-Mobile?
BigMosely said:
I have the N960U (T-Mobile) and I am on version ARK1. My version isn't in the list of options? Or will this not work for the 960U from T-Mobile?
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Keep in mind that this Beta Update its just for the unlocked firmware, if you want to flash the update you need to first flash this firmware: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N960U1/XAA/download/N960U1UES1ARJ9/244752/
After that you will be able to flash the Beta Update
sFranKv said:
Keep in mind that this Beta Update its just for the unlocked firmware, if you want to flash the update you need to first flash this firmware: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N960U1/XAA/download/N960U1UES1ARJ9/244752/
After that you will be able to flash the Beta Update
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Can you flash the unlocked firmware without loosing data?
BigMosely said:
Can you flash the unlocked firmware without loosing data?
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Yes, I did. No data loss.
I flashed the same zrkp from firmware. Science on my us unlocked note 9 with arj9 firmware. It did a full factory reset. I would have done so anyway as I always do with major updates.
Working flawlessly so far.
Edit: 2 exceptions found. Themes are not working and cannot connect to my gear s3. Android wear watch works as expected.
Question what happens when you go into settings an click on Software update does it do anything..Just curious..I have the ATT variant an I'm planning on flashing the Unlocked Firmware..
papashex said:
I flashed the same zrkp from firmware. Science on my us unlocked note 9 with arj9 firmware. It did a full factory reset. I would have done so anyway as I always do with major updates.
Working flawlessly so far.
Edit: 2 exceptions found. Themes are not working and cannot connect to my gear s3. Android wear watch works as expected.
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Yea themes are not on beta for some reason, good it worked for you!
GBPackerFanForLife said:
Question what happens when you go into settings an click on Software update does it do anything..Just curious..I have the ATT variant an I'm planning on flashing the Unlocked Firmware..
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I would not know, I guess we need to wait until beta 2 update and see, probably won't be getting it and we will need to download the new OTA and flash again on recovery
GBPackerFanForLife said:
Question what happens when you go into settings an click on Software update does it do anything..Just curious..I have the ATT variant an I'm planning on flashing the Unlocked Firmware..
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Ok. First of all. Green and gold till I'm dead and cold.
Second of all, if you flash the U1 firmware and sign up for the beta, then you'll get OTAs automatically through settings.
If you flash the U1 firmware and can't get into the beta program, you can download the update.zip from firmware.science. You will have the official beta build, but you won't get updates through settings, because you aren't part of the beta program.
When I run Odin soon as I goto add the AP file Odin freezes an says not responding..I'm useing Windows 10 on my laptop..Any ideas??Also I have put the correct files in odin but it fails Everytime.. I do the BL an the AP an the CP an then for the CSC I use the Home CsC is that correct then hit start??I can't get it to work at all..do I put any file in USERDATA slot???
GBPackerFanForLife said:
When I run Odin soon as I goto add the AP file Odin freezes an says not responding..I'm useing Windows 10 on my laptop..Any ideas??Also I have put the correct files in odin but it fails Everytime.. I do the BL an the AP an the CP an then for the CSC I use the Home CsC is that correct then hit start??I can't get it to work at all..do I put any file in USERDATA slot???
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That is normal. Just wait. It will eventually load the AP file. If you're flashing the U1 firmware, there is no Userdata file, so you don't use that slot.
Make sure you are using the modified version of ODIN 3.13.1 and run it as an administrator. There are links to it on XDA. Or if you go to the main beta thread there's links to it in the thread.
Just put the files in their respective slots. BL in BL, AP in AP, etc...
CSC_OYN performs a factory reset. HOME_CSC does not wipe the phone. I always use CSC_OYN when switching from carrier firmware to U1 firmware or vice versa, but it's up to you.
After everything is all loaded up in ODIN, put your phone in download mode. Power off. Then hold power, Bixby, and volume down button all at the same time until it boots to a blue-green screen. Then press volume up to continue.
Plug your phone into your computer and hit start. Then sit back and wait. This will take a while.
That's all the steps. If you have any issues, I encourage you to use the search bar on the forum. These steps and solutions to any issues you may run into have been posted many times in several threads. The search bar is your friend and should always be the first thing you do before posting questions.
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That is normal. Just wait. It will eventually load the AP file. If you're flashing the U1 firmware, there is no Userdata file, so you don't use that slot.
Make sure you are using the modified version of ODIN 3.13.1 and run it as an administrator. There are links to it on XDA. Or if you go to the main beta thread there's links to it in the thread.
Just put the files in their respective slots. BL in BL, AP in AP, etc...
CSC_OYN performs a factory reset. HOME_CSC does not wipe the phone. I always use CSC_OYN when switching from carrier firmware to U1 firmware or vice versa, but it's up to you.
After everything is all loaded up in ODIN, put your phone in download mode. Power off. Then hold power, Bixby, and volume down button all at the same time until it boots to a blue-green screen. Then press volume up to continue.
Plug your phone into your computer and hit start. Then sit back and wait. This will take a while.
That's all the steps. If you have any issues, I encourage you to use the search bar on the forum. These steps and solutions to any issues you may run into have been posted many times in several threads. The search bar is your friend and should always be the first thing you do before posting questions.
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I wonder since I'm not useing the modified version of Odin that's why it keeps Failing on me..
GBPackerFanForLife said:
I wonder since I'm not useing the modified version of Odin that's why it keeps Failing on me..
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Yes. That's why I said use the modified version.
I'm assuming since I installed the Firmware then the Beta One Samsung + app won't open..then if I click on the Samsung Members app it says Beta but everything i click on say I'm not registered for the Beta..is that because I manually install the Beta update file..So basically Everytime a new beta version comes out I'm going to have to manually install it..
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One thing I have noticed on the new Unlocked version of the Firmware an being on the Beta software is that the Stereo speakers on the phone aren't as loud as they were when I was running the ATT version Firmware..Any ideas..
GBPackerFanForLife said:
I'm assuming since I installed the Firmware then the Beta One Samsung + app won't open..then if I click on the Samsung Members app it says Beta but everything i click on say I'm not registered for the Beta..is that because I manually install the Beta update file..So basically Everytime a new beta version comes out I'm going to have to manually install it..
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One thing I have noticed on the new Unlocked version of the Firmware an being on the Beta software is that the Stereo speakers on the phone aren't as loud as they were when I was running the ATT version Firmware..Any ideas..
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Yes, you are not part of the official beta.
As far as speaker loudness I have no idea.

How can I prevent T-Mobile OTA pie update and stay on 8.1?

I have a Galaxy note 9 running 8.1 and would like to stay there. My phone is the T-Mobile branded one. Unfortunately it seems that my phone has downloaded the OTA update to pie and is asking me to install it. I clicked "Later" but I'm afraid that won't last forever. How can I delete the downloaded data and also disable the update from happening in the future?
I am a complete novice when it comes to software stuff so things like "flashing" memory etc may be beyond my scope unless it's very simple. I do follow instruction well though
I understand that I am forgoing security updates and I'm ok with that. After finishing up with a Galaxy S7 that was painfully slow on its last update and having it eat battery, I'd like to stick with the original software. There are other things like the camera app, layout, etc. that I'd just rather stick to.
Aside from rooting the phone, is there any way to just kill the update program? How can I delete the downloaded update to free up memory? I read someplace that rebooting the phone would install the update - so do I need to factory data reset and start over? (I just got the phone so I'm ok doing that)
ucladave said:
I have a Galaxy note 9 running 8.1 and would like to stay there. My phone is the T-Mobile branded one. Unfortunately it seems that my phone has downloaded the OTA update to pie and is asking me to install it. I clicked "Later" but I'm afraid that won't last forever. How can I delete the downloaded data and also disable the update from happening in the future?
I am a complete novice when it comes to software stuff so things like "flashing" memory etc may be beyond my scope unless it's very simple. I do follow instruction well though
I understand that I am forgoing security updates and I'm ok with that. After finishing up with a Galaxy S7 that was painfully slow on its last update and having it eat battery, I'd like to stick with the original software. There are other things like the camera app, layout, etc. that I'd just rather stick to.
Aside from rooting the phone, is there any way to just kill the update program? How can I delete the downloaded update to free up memory? I read someplace that rebooting the phone would install the update - so do I need to factory data reset and start over? (I just got the phone so I'm ok doing that)
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you may have a couple of options.
I have heard that if you reboot in to the bootloader mode and clear cache then it will get rid of the downloaded firmware update.
I'm not sure.
you can download package disabler pro and disable the update services. I went back to oreo after pie update was horrible.
in package disabler pro follow the directions to enable it
search in the app for "update"
I disabled
"Software update" (com.sec.android.soagent)
"Software update" (com.wssyncmldm)
"System updates" (com.samsung.sdm)
No more updates or notifications
Good luck
jd14771 said:
You can flash the unlocked 8.1 oreo ROM and it will remove the ability to receive updates all together. it will also remove all the bloatware from tmobile. You will have to flash this with odin. After downloading the .zip ROM, Unzip it and flash all 4 files.
You want the XAA download.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ck-960u-firmware-att-vzw-tmo-spr-usc-t3837086
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You still need package disabler pro or some kind if service blocker.
I down graded to Oreo on two devices using XAA and I still got firmware update messages for pie. Once I set up the phone.
Blocking the services keeps the phone from checking and downloading the update.
ucladave said:
I have a Galaxy note 9 running 8.1 and would like to stay there. My phone is the T-Mobile branded one. Unfortunately it seems that my phone has downloaded the OTA update to pie and is asking me to install it. I clicked "Later" but I'm afraid that won't last forever. How can I delete the downloaded data and also disable the update from happening in the future?
I am a complete novice when it comes to software stuff so things like "flashing" memory etc may be beyond my scope unless it's very simple. I do follow instruction well though
I understand that I am forgoing security updates and I'm ok with that. After finishing up with a Galaxy S7 that was painfully slow on its last update and having it eat battery, I'd like to stick with the original software. There are other things like the camera app, layout, etc. that I'd just rather stick to.
Aside from rooting the phone, is there any way to just kill the update program? How can I delete the downloaded update to free up memory? I read someplace that rebooting the phone would install the update - so do I need to factory data reset and start over? (I just got the phone so I'm ok doing that)
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Easiest thing to do is to flash a different version modem for your device. Just flash the previous version modem file with Odin and you'll be set. If you want ota again, just flash the modem for your device matching the software update your device has installed.
I was on Oreo running the Pie modem and never got the Pie ota alert.
Jammol said:
Easiest thing to do is to flash a different version modem for your device. Just flash the previous version modem file with Odin and you'll be set. If you want ota again, just flash the modem for your device matching the software update your device has installed.
I was on Oreo running the Pie modem and never got the Pie ota alert.
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My phone has already downloaded the update and is prompting me to install it. If I flash or run a package disabler at this point will it be effective? How can I erase the update data so it isnt eating space? Do I need to factory reset the phone first to wipe all that out before I flash or run disabler?
ucladave said:
My phone has already downloaded the update and is prompting me to install it. If I flash or run a package disabler at this point will it be effective? How can I erase the update data so it isnt eating space? Do I need to factory reset the phone first to wipe all that out before I flash or run disabler?
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You could try clearing cache like an earlier poster suggested.

Urgent help regarding downgrading from pie to oreo or nougat....

Hi. i need urgent help regarding downgrading my galaxy note 8 from pie to oreo or nougat. i am using android pie from last 1 month. some of my apps stop working so i decided to downgrade from pie to oreo. i had downloaded oreo firmware december 2018 version from sammobile and tried to flash with odin 3.13.1 but it failed. i had tried different versions of odin but every time flashing stuck at set partition nand write start.i always run odin as administrator. i also tried to flash different firmware version like sept version of oreo but still it failed. i downloaded nougat firmware from sammobile. it flashed normally and i was happy but when my phone restarted i was shocked. my device was factory reseted but with android pie version. it looked flashing nougat only formatted my device. i am tired. i tried every damn thing. i tried changing usb port, tried differant usb cable, reinstalled device drivers, made sure that usb debugging is on , even tried on differant pc. but no result. then i tried emergency software recovery in smart switch. if i connect my phone switched on then smart switch discover my device but when i connect my device in download mode then smart switch says that device not supported. i contacted service centre but they say they do not downgrade the device.please please please someone help me. i am attaching a screenshot of odin stuck at nand write start.
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Hi. i need urgent help regarding downgrading my galaxy note 8 from pie to oreo or nougat. i am using android pie from last 1 month. some of my apps stop working so i decided to downgrade from pie to oreo. i had downloaded oreo firmware december 2018 version from sammobile and tried to flash with odin 3.13.1 but it failed. i had tried different versions of odin but every time flashing stuck at set partition nand write start.i always run odin as administrator. i also tried to flash different firmware version like sept version of oreo but still it failed. i downloaded nougat firmware from sammobile. it flashed normally and i was happy but when my phone restarted i was shocked. my device was factory reseted but with android pie version. it looked flashing nougat only formatted my device. i am tired. i tried every damn thing. i tried changing usb port, tried differant usb cable, reinstalled device drivers, made sure that usb debugging is on , even tried on differant pc. but no result. then i tried emergency software recovery in smart switch. if i connect my phone switched on then smart switch discover my device but when i connect my device in download mode then smart switch says that device not supported. i contacted service centre but they say they do not downgrade the device.please please please someone help me. i am attaching a screenshot of odin stuck at nand write start.
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Unfortunately you can't downgrade. Once you have flashed a higher bootloader version you are stuck with it.
If you are on bootloader v5 you may be able to downgrade to the last Oreo build, I am not 100% sure on that though.
Only if they are same bootloader
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stonedpsycho said:
Unfortunately you can't downgrade. Once you have flashed a higher bootloader version you are stuck with it.
If you are on bootloader v5 you may be able to downgrade to the last Oreo build, I am not 100% sure on that though.
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Oh.... i checked my bootloader version is 6. Is there any way to downgrade to version 5 ????
No, there is not, sorry
Ok. So the final note is that i am not able to downgrade... so let me help with other issue that might help me. Knox on my device is tripped so i cant use latest samsung health app. Earlier on oreo i was able to install older version of app and then update it. But now on pie. Older version is not installing. It always says apk not installed. Atleast help me with that
drvish said:
Ok. So the final note is that i am not able to downgrade... so let me help with other issue that might help me. Knox on my device is tripped so i cant use latest samsung health app. Earlier on oreo i was able to install older version of app and then update it. But now on pie. Older version is not installing. It always says apk not installed. Atleast help me with that
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You need to be rooted to be able to get that working again, some roms also have that patched already...
Although the thread is about the s7 I believe it is exactly the same for our note 8.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....de-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306/amp/
stonedpsycho said:
You need to be rooted to be able to get that working again, some roms also have that patched already...
Although the thread is about the s7 I believe it is exactly the same for our note 8.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....de-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306/amp/
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I dont want to root again.... rooting will not let banking apps work.moreover if i wanted to root. Root files for note 8 pie are not available right now. I installed patched app but it does not have heart rate monitor and spo2 which renders heart rate sensor useless.... thats why i am so desperate for that app
drvish said:
I dont want to root again.... rooting will not let banking apps work.moreover if i wanted to root. Root files for note 8 pie are not available right now. I installed patched app but it does not have heart rate monitor and spo2 which renders heart rate sensor useless.... thats why i am so desperate for that app
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As far as I am aware it is not possible without root.
drvish said:
I dont want to root again.... rooting will not let banking apps work.moreover if i wanted to root. Root files for note 8 pie are not available right now. I installed patched app but it does not have heart rate monitor and spo2 which renders heart rate sensor useless.... thats why i am so desperate for that app
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Just use Magisk Hide to disguise, that you are using root
Reaper1337 said:
Just use Magisk Hide to disguise, that you are using root
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I dont want to root. Moreover rooting files are not available for pie update.... so i think i am left with only 1 option to wait for someone to patch samsung health app to include heart rate sensors.....
drvish said:
I dont want to root. Moreover rooting files are not available for pie update.... so i think i am left with only 1 option to wait for someone to patch samsung health app to include heart rate sensors.....
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You can flash TWRP, copy /system/build.prop to the PC or SD Card, edit it on the PC, put it back in /system.
Once you are done, just flash stock revovery via TWRP.
It sounds hard, but it's eazy if you know what you are doing. Banking apps will still work, and with build.prop edited s health will work too.
I am not gonna walk you trough the entire process but this is a summary.
Xenos7 said:
You can flash TWRP, copy /system/build.prop to the PC or SD Card, edit it on the PC, put it back in /system.
Once you are done, just flash stock revovery via TWRP.
It sounds hard, but it's eazy if you know what you are doing. Banking apps will still work, and with build.prop edited s health will work too.
I am not gonna walk you trough the entire process but this is a summary.
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Thats the problem bro.... i downloaded twrp from official twrp website and tried to flash it. Odin message was pass but when i rebooted my phone in recovery mode my phone was still on stock recovery.... same thing happened with my galaxy tab.
I hope someone can provide me edited s health apk
drvish said:
Thats the problem bro.... i downloaded twrp from official twrp website and tried to flash it. Odin message was pass but when i rebooted my phone in recovery mode my phone was still on stock recovery.... same thing happened with my galaxy tab.
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Oooh that, it's nothin.
You just need to hold volume up + bixby and power just before the phone auto restarts from download mode. When you do that it will boot twrp.
If you don't understand it go watch MaxLee on youtube, his method of flashing twrp on s8/n8
Xenos7 said:
Oooh that, it's nothin.
You just need to hold volume up + bixby and power just before the phone auto restarts from download mode. When you do that it will boot twrp.
If you don't understand it go watch MaxLee on youtube, his method of flashing twrp on s8/n8
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So there is no other method except flashing twrp.... i think i have to wait for patched s health app or to leave that.... coz i really dont want to mess with stock firmware anymore....
drvish said:
So there is no other method except flashing twrp.... i think i have to wait for patched s health app or to leave that.... coz i really dont want to mess with stock firmware anymore....
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The way I know it, there is no way without twrp or root, and you said you don't want root because of banking apps.
If you flash twrp, do the thing with build.prop, and then flash stock recovery, you could still recive OTA updates and banking apps will work.
You just have to set up s health before the next OTA because that will revert built.prop back to normal.
But as long as you set up s health before that it will be ok.
Xenos7 said:
The way I know it, there is no way without twrp or root, and you said you don't want root because of banking apps.
If you flash twrp, do the thing with build.prop, and then flash stock recovery, you could still recive OTA updates and banking apps will work.
You just have to set up s health before the next OTA because that will revert built.prop back to normal.
But as long as you set up s health before that it will be ok.
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Leave that bro coz m not ready to do that. Just help me with 1 thing if possible. There was other way to use s health on knox tripped device. That was downloading s health 4.8 version install it and open it. It will stuck at loading screen. Update it and it will work fine. Earlier i get it working that way when my device has oreo version. But now after pie update when i try to install any s health apk before version 5 that is 4.5, 4.7 or 4.8. I always get a message app not installed. After version 5 app get installed but again with root problem. Can u help me with installing old version. I dont know why s health old version is not getting installed. I had some other apps that are now discontinued. That apps get installed easily
drvish said:
Leave that bro coz m not ready to do that. Just help me with 1 thing if possible. There was other way to use s health on knox tripped device. That was downloading s health 4.8 version install it and open it. It will stuck at loading screen. Update it and it will work fine. Earlier i get it working that way when my device has oreo version. But now after pie update when i try to install any s health apk before version 5 that is 4.5, 4.7 or 4.8. I always get a message app not installed. After version 5 app get installed but again with root problem. Can u help me with installing old version. I dont know why s health old version is not getting installed. I had some other apps that are now discontinued. That apps get installed easily
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The reason you can't install the modded version is because the version that was modded is less than pre-installed version on the device. As of now, you can't downgrade apps, only upgrade. Your only option is to wait for someone to patch a later version from the version you got installed on your phone.
I think someone can even just change a number in AndroidManifest.xml install it and then just upgrade.
I'm sure a patched version will pop-up again somewhere on xda, just make sure it's later version than the version pre-installed into the system.
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The reason you can't install the modded version is because the version that was modded is less than pre-installed version on the device. As of now, you can't downgrade apps, only upgrade. Your only option is to wait for someone to patch a later version from the version you got installed on your phone.
I think someone can even just change a number in AndroidManifest.xml install it and then just upgrade.
I'm sure a patched version will pop-up again somewhere on xda, just make sure it's later version than the version pre-installed into the system.
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Hmmm.... lets wait for some godman to do the favour..... i am from medical profession so dont know much abt this coding stuff. Otherwise i would have done that myself :laugh:

No software updates after ADB

Hey, I own a Galaxy S10+ and I've noticed I get no updates at all. It keeps saying "Current software up to date" and sometimes "DM Initialization is not ready" or something. My sister owns the same phone on the same network and she gets updates. I've noticed it started happening after doing something related to ADB. I was trying to install Navigation Gestures and had to install ADB. After that, issues started arising. Any ideas?
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Hey, I own a Galaxy S10+ and I've noticed I get no updates at all. It keeps saying "Current software up to date" and sometimes "DM Initialization is not ready" or something. My sister owns the same phone on the same network and she gets updates. I've noticed it started happening after doing something related to ADB. I was trying to install Navigation Gestures and had to install ADB. After that, issues started arising. Any ideas?
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Which build is on your phone?
charkatak said:
which build is on your phone?
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ppr1.180610.011.g975usqu1asba
From what I have seen if you manually update via a download from firmware science you usually just keep looking there for updated firmware then you can manually update in recovery through sd card.That's what I've been doing for the past 3 to 4 updates.
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ppr1.180610.011.g975usqu1asba
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If your phone is unlocked US model, then the latest version is: G975U1UES1ASDB
1) You can try removing sim card, restart your device and then check for update...
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1) You can back up your phone using Samsung's backup option, then do factory reset to see what went wrong. After that restore from that backup
Charkatak said:
If your phone is unlocked US model, then the latest version is: G975U1UES1ASDB
1) You can try removing sim card, restart your device and then check for update...
OR
1) You can back up your phone using Samsung's backup option, then do factory reset to see what went wrong. After that restore from that backup
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Resetting my phone did not work. Removing the sim did not work either.
Go to firmware science find your model s10 click on your current firmware it will show you the next firmware jump from asba,download and save to sd card,power your phone to recovery mode and flash update via sd card and repeat steps to catch up to current firmware.
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Or jump down a section to galaxy s10 guides and look for the thread At&t OTA and non OTA updates G975U and you will have all the links you need to catch up to current firmware.

Terrible battery since Android 10 update

Hello,
I got my Note9 (N960W) at the beginning of December and was really happy with it, great quick phone, getting 8-9 hours SOT with AccuBattery, which is quite exagerated probably, and around 4h30 while monitoring with GSam.
I got the Android 10 update on Monday, March 9. I used to lose around 8-9% total overnight, but now with Android 10, it's more than 20%-30%. SOT is really worse than before too, but screen off time is the worst, more than 5% per hour. It was 2% per hour with Android 9.
I didn't change anything, didn't install any new apps or didn't change my habits. I just upgraded the OS. What the hell happened? Anyone with the same problem? What can I do? I already wiped off the cache but it didn't change a thing...
Thanks for any help...
Edit: I forgot to mention I also got a couple random freeze and reboot while using TuneIn Radio, something which never happened while on Android 9...
Do a fresh install and see if problems persists, if not, you fixed it.
For me fresh install solved all bugs and problems I had with dirty update
Do a factory reset or new clean install.
My phone is 1.5 years old and battery life is very well with android 10. About 7hrs sot.
metaleloi666 said:
Hello,
I got my Note9 (N960W) at the beginning of December and was really happy with it, great quick phone, getting 8-9 hours SOT with AccuBattery, which is quite exagerated probably, and around 4h30 while monitoring with GSam.
I got the Android 10 update on Monday, March 9. I used to lose around 8-9% total overnight, but now with Android 10, it's more than 20%-30%. SOT is really worse than before too, but screen off time is the worst, more than 5% per hour. It was 2% per hour with Android 9.
I didn't change anything, didn't install any new apps or didn't change my habits. I just upgraded the OS. What the hell happened? Anyone with the same problem? What can I do? I already wiped off the cache but it didn't change a thing...
Thanks for any help...
Edit: I forgot to mention I also got a couple random freeze and reboot while using TuneIn Radio, something which never happened while on Android 9...
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Do a fresh install and see if problems persists, if not, you fixed it.
For me fresh install solved all bugs and problems I had with dirty update
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Mr.Vag said:
Do a factory reset or new clean install.
My phone is 1.5 years old and battery life is very well with android 10. About 7hrs sot.
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This. Android updates are terrible with the incremental update system where only the changed portion of code are pushed to the device.
always do a factory reset when ther are major changes, such as when we went from 8->9 and 9->10.
Thanks for the replies.
But what's the difference between a factory reset and a clean install? If there is one, which one is the best?
metaleloi666 said:
Thanks for the replies.
But what's the difference between a factory reset and a clean install? If there is one, which one is the best?
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Theoretically, if you update your phone from OTA and something goes wrong, then it's possible that the problem won't be fixed by a factory reset because the files it's "restoring" from are already corrupt in some way.
When you clean install through odin, you are flashing the entire OS and replacing every file in the filesystem. This can solve a lot of random problems when Android phones get updated from one flavor to another, i.e, Android 8 -> 9, or 9-> 10.
A lotmof people here disagree that factory reset and a clean install are different. But I disagree with them. If you only update through OTA, then it's entirely possible something can be "corrupt" in the filesystem.
This is because OTA updates are "block based", so instead of replacing all of the files for an update, only the modified "blocks" of data are downloaded and installed. So over time, it's possible to get a bad OTA update that doesn't clean up prior conflicting files, or something like that.
Just my 0.02$
My phone is not rooted. Can I update from Odin still?
metaleloi666 said:
My phone is not rooted. Can I update from Odin still?
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Ofc you can. No root needed.
Mr.Vag said:
Ofc you can. No root needed.
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I didn't do factory reset or clean install so far.
This is weird. Today, I was off work and I nearly had 8 hours SoT. Screen off time seems to be improving too. Still, got some wifi bugs today, it shut off a few times for no reason while being home.
But just before posting this, I got a random reboot.... Hmmmm...... Never had a random reboot while on Android 9.
Looks like I'll have to do this reset or clean install....
metaleloi666 said:
I didn't do factory reset or clean install so far.
This is weird. Today, I was off work and I nearly had 8 hours SoT. Screen off time seems to be improving too. Still, got some wifi bugs today, it shut off a few times for no reason while being home.
But just before posting this, I got a random reboot.... Hmmmm...... Never had a random reboot while on Android 9.
Looks like I'll have to do this reset or clean install....
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Yep..always must leave phone 1-2 days to see exactly how battery is.
For my opionion just reset your phone and you'll be fine.
Do a reset from recovery if you want..
Vol up + Bixby + power buttons.. and pick factory reset ...
Mr.Vag said:
Yep..always must leave phone 1-2 days to see exactly how battery is.
For my opionion just reset your phone and you'll be fine.
Do a reset from recovery if you want..
Vol up + Bixby + power buttons.. and pick factory reset ...
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I prefer odin, because unlike a factory reset, you can use the HOME_CSC file and keep you apps and settings intact, while re writing the filesystem for system. If that fixes things then no need to re set up your device, saving you between 30 mins-2 hours depending on how many settings you prefer to be a certain way.
If that doesn't fix your problem, then you can nuke the whole thing with the CSC file.
Factory reset through the phone relies on having the correct files to restore from, and with the way Android updates, it's becoming more common for the filesystem to get mildly corrupt in one way or another where factory reset through the device doesn't fix the issue thanks to block based updates. I don't think the block based system is cleaning up after itself properly and is leaving behind old code that conflicts with new code personally, but that's just a guess.
Frick_trump said:
I prefer odin, because unlike a factory reset, you can use the HOME_CSC file and keep you apps and settings intact, while re writing the filesystem for system. If that fixes things then no need to re set up your device, saving you between 30 mins-2 hours depending on how many settings you prefer to be a certain way.
If that doesn't fix your problem, then you can nuke the whole thing with the CSC file.
Factory reset through the phone relies on having the correct files to restore from, and with the way Android updates, it's becoming more common for the filesystem to get mildly corrupt in one way or another where factory reset through the device doesn't fix the issue thanks to block based updates. I don't think the block based system is cleaning up after itself properly and is leaving behind old code that conflicts with new code personally, but that's just a guess.
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Thanks. Where can I find the exact file I need for my phone to flash with Odin? I'm from Canada, on the Videotron carrier and the phone is the N960W.
metaleloi666 said:
Thanks. Where can I find the exact file I need for my phone to flash with Odin? I'm from Canada, on the Videotron carrier and the phone is the N960W.
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Search xda for samfirm download tool, install it and the needed windows components on your computer.
Then go to sammobile.com and look up your phone, sm-n960w and find your specific carrier code, it'll be 3 letters. Then use that code for the "region" box in the samfirm tool, and sm-n960w for model. It will download the latest firmware from samobile at the fastest speed your internet will allow.
Alternatively you can download it straight from samobile, but the download speed is DSL like unless you pay for an account.
The flash through odin, make sure you load the HOME_csc file and not the stands CSC file in order to reta9your settings and data.
flash CSC (along with all other fields) if your problem isn't fixed.
i got 960ou1 and i get 7 hours or more with the 10 update
Frick_trump said:
Search xda for samfirm download tool, install it and the needed windows components on your computer.
Then go to sammobile.com and look up your phone, sm-n960w and find your specific carrier code, it'll be 3 letters. Then use that code for the "region" box in the samfirm tool, and sm-n960w for model. It will download the latest firmware from samobile at the fastest speed your internet will allow.
Alternatively you can download it straight from samobile, but the download speed is DSL like unless you pay for an account.
The flash through odin, make sure you load the HOME_csc file and not the stands CSC file in order to reta9your settings and data.
flash CSC (along with all other fields) if your problem isn't fixed.
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Thanks. I'll hold for a while, as the battery gets better as it seems... But I keep this in my bookmarks.
Well, I just flashed with the HOME_CSC file. Hope it'll fix the problems with the battery...

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