Can't disable cell radio - AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I picked up a Note 3 from ebay on a really good deal. I am not using cellular. I'm only using it as a very capable ereader, internet etc.
So I want to completely axe the cell radio. I turn on airplane mode and turn wifi back on but "cell standby" is still showing battery drain even after wiping battery stats.
Any way to totally disable cell on the hardware end, rename an apk or use ADB?
Thanks,
Rich

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Battery drain with no signal

My diamond's battery doesnt last very long as it is but where I work I dont get any signal, and seems to drain twice as fast
Is the fact its trying to constantly get signal thats doing this?
Any suggestions much appreciated....
Rom = Shaks.P v4.00
Radio = 1.09.25.23
my girl HAD the same problem too. i told her that since there's NO signal, the machine will constantly search for available networks. the only alternative to this is to either switch off the phone or put in airplane mode. by putting the phone in airplane mode, the phone will not be constantly searching. have you ever notice that using 3G network uses more juice than that of 2G? she gave it a shot (airplane mode) and the problem of battery drain no longer bugs her.
Thanks, will give the airplane mode a shot
Yes, airplane mode will stop it from searching networks because all communications are shut down.
You can also prevent the battery drainage by turning the phone off or throwing it in a glass of water
If you still want to be able to use the phone (function) you don't want to use airplane mode
Also most ROMs by default have the BEAM "Receive all incoming beams." switched on. Switching it off helps as well.
I also suggest trying other radio's and switching 3G off for phone calls....

aeroplane mode battery vs normal

why is it that if i turn my aeroplane mode on and leave my fone on standby im pretty sure it would almost last 4-5 days. where when i turn off aeroplane mode. i get 12 hours. maybe 4-5 hours if im using it.
i can probably flatten the fone in under an hour if gaming..
WHY!.
this is retarded.
Try this site, everything you'll ever need is there.
www.google.com
Your phones signal uses a lot of battery. For a more detailed description just search on Google, as the poster above said.
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lol, what is aeroplane mode?
type careful, you wanted AIRPLANE MODE
Aeroplane is English, airplane is American English.
And Android correctly says aeroplane if it is configured to use the British locale.
@OP:
Aeroplane mode turns off your mobile network and wifi completely. This is what you're supposed to do when sitting in an aeroplane, but don't want to shut down your phone completely.
I hope it is clear that it saves a lot of power if your phone has no mobile connection at all.
ok i have noticed something.
if i have no APN in my list for 3g, i dont get 3d data, but my battery lasts like AGES. compared to when i put in an apn.. why?
R0B3RTF1SH3R said:
ok i have noticed something.
if i have no APN in my list for 3g, i dont get 3d data, but my battery lasts like AGES. compared to when i put in an apn.. why?
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Mobile data uses also a lot of battery. If you disable mobile data, but keep your phone in the mobile network (so you can make and receive calls), it consumes far less power.
This is also why I would recommend never turning off wifi, even when the display is off, because wifi uses less power than mobile data and android will turn off mobile data whenever wifi is available.
good point

Battery Drain On s3 i19305

Hi, need some help,
I got this phone a couple of days back, its an unlocked one. Battery on the phone seems to be draining faster than i expected it to. The first time i charged it, it took 3 hours in the afternoon. By night it was 20% this was after playing games and downloading through wifi, so it seemed ok. I then put it for charge overnight. The next day it still seemed to drained by 7pm only used whats app this day, so i had to put for charge again.
Once fully charged (2 hrs) I shut off wifi, bluetooth, nfc and others. Switched off smart stay options and the display is set to lowest brightness (not auto). The wallpapers is also black so it will not drain battery. Overnight without the phone being used (only thing i set was alarm) the charge went from 89% to 78%. During the day I also find the charge still dropping pretty rapidly. I have included the screen shot of the battery from the same day. Between the first pictures there is no difference in use and still drops by 3% in 20 mins or so.
Is this a problem with the battery or is that how it is?
(Stock, no changes to rom)
Not sure if this is your specific problem - but one thing I've found that kills this phone fast is bad 4G cell reception. By default the phone runs as LTE/GSM/WCDMA (Auto) in Settings->Mobile Networks . If you are in a location with patchy (or none at all) 4G Coverage, the phone wastes an inordinate amount of juice switching to high-power mode on the cell radio searching for the elusive 4G/LTE ... Just like a 3G phone will deplete its battery extremly fast in a location with no/poor 3G connectivity (inside the 'secure' datacentres I wander into occasionally that have cell blockers, I can deplete the battery in a phone in about 3 hours just due to it constantly switching to high-power 'cell search' mode as it has no details on any cells to 'hand off' to....)
The difference is palpable... inside my office, if I have the phone on the right side of my desk closest to some windows, it will receive 'patchy' 4G and I'll go through about 60% battery over about 8-10 hours with intermittent phone use (most of the battery goes to screen time as I'm a 'fiddler' whenever I leave my desk for a coffee/break/etc...) If I place it on the left side of my desk, where the reception is much worse, it'll fall back to 3G and I'll go through about 80% battery doing nothing different...
I'm now in the habit of switching the phone to WCDMA Only when I'm going to be working in the bowels of the building, as there aint no hope of 4G there...Doing this drastically improves battery life.. Likewise if I'm stuck at home over the weekend, I leave it on WCDMA, as where I live has very patchy 4G as well and I only get it if I walk outside and down the street...
Just a possible reason for the excessive drain... at least worth trying anyway... *shrug*
adr6ian said:
Not sure if this is your specific problem - but one thing I've found that kills this phone fast is bad 4G cell reception. By default the phone runs as LTE/GSM/WCDMA (Auto) in Settings->Mobile Networks . If you are in a location with patchy (or none at all) 4G Coverage, the phone wastes an inordinate amount of juice switching to high-power mode on the cell radio searching for the elusive 4G/LTE ... Just like a 3G phone will deplete its battery extremly fast in a location with no/poor 3G connectivity (inside the 'secure' datacentres I wander into occasionally that have cell blockers, I can deplete the battery in a phone in about 3 hours just due to it constantly switching to high-power 'cell search' mode as it has no details on any cells to 'hand off' to....)
The difference is palpable... inside my office, if I have the phone on the right side of my desk closest to some windows, it will receive 'patchy' 4G and I'll go through about 60% battery over about 8-10 hours with intermittent phone use (most of the battery goes to screen time as I'm a 'fiddler' whenever I leave my desk for a coffee/break/etc...) If I place it on the left side of my desk, where the reception is much worse, it'll fall back to 3G and I'll go through about 80% battery doing nothing different...
I'm now in the habit of switching the phone to WCDMA Only when I'm going to be working in the bowels of the building, as there aint no hope of 4G there...Doing this drastically improves battery life.. Likewise if I'm stuck at home over the weekend, I leave it on WCDMA, as where I live has very patchy 4G as well and I only get it if I walk outside and down the street...
Just a possible reason for the excessive drain... at least worth trying anyway... *shrug*
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Hi thanks for the reply. My phone does not show WCDMA in settings. It just has 2g/3g/4g/ auto OR 3g in network modes under mobile networks.
varun.k said:
Hi thanks for the reply. My phone does not show WCDMA in settings. It just has 2g/3g/4g/ auto OR 3g in network modes under mobile networks.
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I have used an app called "Radio Switcher" to activate "gsm auto (prl)", when i open the app it seems to go into "Device info". It seems to work but "Network mode" does not seem to change.
I have uploaded the screenshots
Seems as though the system is using more battery than the screen itself.
The system seems to really take up way too much battery power. Mine is at 4%.
What are your sync settings? Especially for things like Weather, stocks, news etc. If you set them to sync every hour or so, your phone will keep running on the 3G network which will end up draining your battery.
Also, switch off motion. It's a cool feature, but it's not necessary. Same with auto-rotate.
Finally, use WiFi instead of 3G where possible. That saves battery too.
If you're rooted, download noFrills CPU control and reduce your max clock frequency on days where you won't get a charge. Phone runs well enough on 800mhz, but has a tendency to keep going at 1.4Ghz for no reason.
Otherwise, get a higher capacity battery
Snowstormzzz said:
The system seems to really take up way too much battery power. Mine is at 4%.
What are your sync settings? Especially for things like Weather, stocks, news etc. If you set them to sync every hour or so, your phone will keep running on the 3G network which will end up draining your battery.
Also, switch off motion. It's a cool feature, but it's not necessary. Same with auto-rotate.
Finally, use WiFi instead of 3G where possible. That saves battery too.
If you're rooted, download noFrills CPU control and reduce your max clock frequency on days where you won't get a charge. Phone runs well enough on 800mhz, but has a tendency to keep going at 1.4Ghz for no reason.
Otherwise, get a higher capacity battery
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My sync is off, plus i have disabled sync for everything individuality and disabled all unwanted apps. Data service is also off, only use wi-fi. under motion only smart call is on and auto rotate us off.
I have uploaded a screen shot off after ti disable all these apps.(went to bed with 35% and was 28% in the mornin, turned wifi off before)
Will upgrading (official) phone to android 4.1.2 help (current ver is 4.1.1)? Current base band version is i9305BVALI5 i got an update on kies to i9305BVALI3. I don't think this is update to 4.1.2 is it?
I have updated to 4.1.2, and applied only gsm setting in mobile network. All apps are still disabled as before. The system still seems to be suing most amount of battery, more than the screen. I do not know what is using the system.
I have stared having the same problem a couple of days ago. Though I have sync enabled 0-24 for 3 gmail accounts, motions are on, screen auto rotate is also on. I am using nova launcher, almost all Samsung apps are frozen and most of time I am on wifi.
Now, this drain has nothing to do with the stuff I just mentioned (Enabled sync, motions...). I have all that things enabled all the time, and yes MPU and GPU are OC to 1600 and 640 MHz. But I was always getting >= 24h with ~3,5 h of screen on time. As I already mentioned, problem started a couple of days ago. Only thing which comes to my mind is that I have played with freezing / defrosting apps and I probably installed a couple of apps too. Like Beautiful Widgets and that's my main candidate to blame for this at the moment.
Though I am still not sure... Better than battery stats didn't show anything what could help. Network location locator or similar is at the top of the list of partial wake locks. But the time it hold the lock (About 25 min.) can't be the reason for such a high drain.
I have switched to HD Widgets, what I was using before (With this app one can disable auto location.) removed Beautiful Widgets, and turned off'Use wireless networks' and GPS in location services hoping it will help... So we'll see...
For me it still shows that adroid system and cell standby time is using a lot battery.
I don't get why android system and OS is using so much battery, everything is disabled. Network is on only GSM setting and i have network all the time, why is that also high? Does someone else also have the same problem?
If possible, install Better Battery Stats, maybe it will help you to identify the problem... In my case it is not of much use at the moment.
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Strange idea: download an anti-virus and let it run.
Might as well give it a shot now, especially since AV is free.
Snowstormzzz said:
Strange idea: download an anti-virus and let it run.
Might as well give it a shot now, especially since AV is free.
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I was using AVG, but i removed it thinking it could drain battery.
Sv: Battery Drain On s3 i19305
varun.k said:
I was using AVG, but i removed it thinking it could drain battery.
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I think he meant that it could be a virus that drains all the battery.
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sebbe312 said:
I think he meant that it could be a virus that drains all the battery.
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I did an upgrade using odin to 4.1.2, the issue still remains though. The screen shots i posted is with the update.
So any virus should also be wiped out right?
varun.k said:
I did an upgrade using odin to 4.1.2, the issue still remains though. The screen shots i posted is with the update.
So any virus should also be wiped out right?
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Anyways i tried it, does not seem to work though.
!crazy said:
If possible, install Better Battery Stats, maybe it will help you to identify the problem... In my case it is not of much use at the moment.
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I have installed better battery stats, and it says that battery drain is 6% an hour at idle. I have attached the screen shots. I do not have root access to access some of its functions though.

[Q] Is this normal battery drain?

My cell standby is really really high and I'm nowhere near the 6+ hours SoT that people seem to be getting here. I even followed the battery optimization guide and disable all the moto features on the phone. I also changed my preferred network type from "Global" to "LTE/CDMA" to supposedly save more power.
Is anyone else having odd drain? I attached a list of the apps I disabled as well.
Cell stand bye does seem high. Silly but I'm sure you have turned phone off and fully charged to see if it remedies?
All else fails factory reset, I know it's a pain.
Broadley1 said:
Cell stand bye does seem high. Silly but I'm sure you have turned phone off and fully charged to see if it remedies?
All else fails factory reset, I know it's a pain.
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I charged it while it was on fully after draining it to 1% when I first bought it. I have not turned it off or charged while it was off. I'll do that later when it is around 5% after work.
How would the factory reset help? I would reinstall the same apps again anyway so if that is the problem I wouldn't know it.
I didnt mess with any network settings but cell standby is higher than screen on my battery stats. My battery life isn't bad by any means but not as good as some others are getting
I've seen this issue reported by 2-3 other users, it's either related to the cell coverage in your area or might even be a faulty radio. Cell standby is usually high on my list but still about 1/4 of the power draw of my screen (assuming my average SoT of 6 hours) and around -96dBm (3-4 bars) signal strength. Try checking your signal strength - if you don't have an app for it, do: Settings > Wireless and Networks > More > Mobile Networks > Network type and strength.
I have this issue. My signal sucks at home. Only 3 bars most of the time.
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Same issue here ... Just switched to ART and I'm going to switch from global to LTE/CDMA to see if I can knock it down a bit. Reception at my work is terrible in some spots (hospital). At home its not so bad.
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Urbane 2 battery life without LTE

I was wondering if the battery would be good if it was used without a sim card and all the cellular features? I'm considering this watch because of the design. It does have a huge 570mah battery and I wouldnt use its cellular features. Thanks
anees167 said:
I was wondering if the battery would be good if it was used without a sim card and all the cellular features? I'm considering this watch because of the design. It does have a huge 570mah battery and I wouldnt use its cellular features. Thanks
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I lose 3-4% an hour with cellular off and paired by bluetooth.
mward1995 said:
I lose 3-4% an hour with cellular off and paired by bluetooth.
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so it seems there isnt much of a difference compared to my sony smartwatch 3 which i get 2 to 3% loss an hour and it has a smaller battery at 400mah. I'm guessing probably that cellular hardware modules are draining the power, even though its not being used. it would be great to see the same watch without cellular function and same large battery. thanks
mward1995 said:
I lose 3-4% an hour with cellular off and paired by bluetooth.
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By cellular off, do you have it in airplane mode or just left the SIM out and cellular set to automatic? I have mine in airplane right now, figuring that would save more battery, because I couldn't find a way to change cellular from "automatic" to "off" unless it was bugged or something.
Nitemare3219 said:
By cellular off, do you have it in airplane mode or just left the SIM out and cellular set to automatic? I have mine in airplane right now, figuring that would save more battery, because I couldn't find a way to change cellular from "automatic" to "off" unless it was bugged or something.
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I just turn cellular off. When I leave the phone behind I turn cellular to automatic to activate the SIM. When paired by bluetooth I just toggle cellular to off. Occasionally when I go out of bt range cellular will switch back to automatic on it's own. Most of the time mine will stay off. I never use airplane mode.
mward1995 said:
I just turn cellular off. When I leave the phone behind I turn cellular to automatic to activate the SIM. When paired by bluetooth I just toggle cellular to off. Occasionally when I go out of bt range cellular will switch back to automatic on it's own. Most of the time mine will stay off. I never use airplane mode.
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I was able to turn off cellular without putting on Airplane mode after restarting the watch.
I used it heavily this weekend for GPS navigation, tracking on a 5K, notifications, phone calls (via BT), and ambient display always on. The watch never went below 50% during a single day of fairly heavy use. With the display off, I imagine it could get 2.5-3 days easily. 2 days should be do-able with the display always on, but I turn it off at night just to combat any chance of screen burn since we don't know how well this P-OLED will handle it.
Today my battery is at 98% after about 8 hours of use.
I get email notifications, etc. This is with cellular radio and wifi off.
It shows remaining battery of 3 days.
tech_head said:
Today my battery is at 98% after about 8 hours of use.
I get email notifications, etc. This is with cellular radio and wifi off.
It shows remaining battery of 3 days.
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That's impossible. Even if you disable the always on display. Your watch just isn't reporting the battery correctly. Might take a few cycles to get the battery level settled in. And if nothing else, I have noticed mine stays above 90% for awhile then drops off quicker.
You guys are doing much better than I am. I can take the watch off the charger, goto the office and be at 90% in less than an hour with LTE on. I can't get more than 4 hours with LTE on on this watch. I think it has to do with crappy signal strength, but what do I know? I just leave cellular turned off. Taked to LG and might send them the watch back to take a look at it.
rfreeman11 said:
You guys are doing much better than I am. I can take the watch off the charger, goto the office and be at 90% in less than an hour with LTE on. I can't get more than 4 hours with LTE on on this watch. I think it has to do with crappy signal strength, but what do I know? I just leave cellular turned off. Taked to LG and might send them the watch back to take a look at it.
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I'd say if the signal reception is bad, that's definitely the reason. I've read several posts with this being the reason the battery drops fast. An example, I lose about 25%-30% an hour when I'm tracking runs with GPS, playing music through bluetooth and with cellular on paired to my phone that I leave behind. The cell signal in my area is good. A friend loses 60% an hour doing the same thing in a poor signal area. I lose about 3% an hour with normal usage and cell radio off.

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