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[PHOTOS] ISOCELL camera discussion - my review is up!

We discuss ISOCELL camera technology and new camera features, photos shared on the internet, and Your user photos and videos here.
Features of the Galaxy S5 ISOCELL camera unit:
15.87 MP (5312x2988) 16:9 aspect ratio Samsung BSI ISOCELL sensor
PDAF (phase detection auto focus) for fast auto focus
4k video recording, [email protected]
Live HDR phoro and video preview (Rich Tone available for video)
Software image stabilization
Selective focus
Drama mode
I got my hands on the S5 thx to the guys at XXL GSM, so here's my review:
Since smartphones took over compact cameras as the most popular tool for daily photography, each manufacturer is trying to create it's own camera tech. Sony put the metal wiring behind photo diodes to capture more photons (BSI), HTC introduced the large UltraPixels, and Nokia came up with the large sensor 41MP PureView tech with OIS. Samsung only slightly adjusted it's sensor size (1/2.6") and pixel count (16MP with 1.12um sensor pixels) for it's 5th Galaxy S phone, but with a new sensor manufacturing method, they are introducing higher dynamic range and better color reproduction, in what they call "3D-Backside Illuminated Pixel with Front-Side Deep-Trench Isolation (F-DTI) and Vertical Transfer Gate", or because they're physically isolating pixels to decrease light crosstalk, "ISOCELL". For faster focus they also added a phase detection auto-focus layer (PDAF) delivering ~0.3s focal speed, plus image processing capable of live HDR and HDR video recording. Add sensor-level digital zoom in video, meaning you don't zoom into the 1080p picture anymore but use all the 16MPs, and the S5s new 16:9 sensor delivers a much needed step-up in camera technology.
In good light conditions the S5 rivals any rival phone in snappiness, white balance, color gamut and focal accuracy, also offering healthy amounts of details for print quality images. HDR works seamlessly and sometimes you can't tell it was on, only you realize little to no detail is lost to clipping, it works darn fast too, albeit with some loss of details. Facing directly into sunlight, and dynamic range stays solid without lens issues, color errors or aberrations, and noise levels are kept at a minimal. Jpg compression is slightly above ideal as seen in the smallest details, on the other hand, speeds are excellent, tap-to-focus and tap-to-shot is almost instantaneous, and the app opens and finishes the first shot from cache in about 1.5s, 2,5s from a locked screen. The S5 can take about 7 shots per second in a photo burst (long tap on the photo icon).
Check my full size daylight album with EXIF info here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157643999248563/
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In lower light conditions, as most small sensor smartphones, the S5 is a mixed bag, but an improvement in color reproduction, focal accuracy and snappiness over the S4. Missing are the optical image stabilization (OIS) and longer than 1/17s exposure times (Camera Zoom FX can do 1/10). The Photography app ranges from ISO40 to the very soft ISO2000 shots with manual setup available between ISO100 and ISO800 (Zoom FX does ISO1600 too). In dark conditions, if LED flash not used, you can turn on image stabilization (former night mode) to battle noise, and a multi-exposure of about 3-4 seconds (hold the phone steady) compiles an improved low-light image. HDR works too (with more noise on the sides), and while movement requires stability turned off with higher ISO or flash, optionally Sport Mode, overall I like the accurate color reproduction, which is a problem for many rivals. My biggest criticism besides OIS is the lack of 1/5 1/2 1s and other longer exposure times and manual control for it, at ISO100 with a 1 second exposure the ISOCELL sensor could capture much more details, and since the Lumias have OIS, they are better than the S5 in this category.
Full-size low-light album here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157643997683364/
The S5 works well in macro mode too with tight DOF, full-size shots with EXIF here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157643999323404/
Besides setting up ISO, exposure, white balance, resolutions, timer, voice control etc. from the menu, there are Samsung's various camera MODEs. Selective Focus shoots multiple focal shots of the same subject, and you can later select the preferred focal point - foreground, background or both - algorithm is not perfect. In Shot and more the camera takes a series of images before a fixed background, and allows you to choose Best photo, Best face, Drama mode to record multiple phases of a movement on one image, delete unwanted stuff with Eraser and add motion blur via Panning shot. The Shot and more editing menu comes up after taking the shot, later you can access it from the Studio.
Beauty face lets you play around with skin tones and stuff, Virtual tour is like moving around in Street View: you turn and walk around taking several shots in a house for example, and later revisit it virtually moving around with arrows. Dual shot places both camera images on a single shot, Animated photo creates a gif, Sound and shoot allows you to add a voice comment to your shot and Sport mode uses high ISO and wide focus not to miss any fast movement, have this one on with kids around. There are two Panorama modes, regular 2D one with horizontal movement, and the Nexus-like Surround shot that does 3D photosphere, with some inconsistency. Trick for a good sphere is to hold the camera lens at the same spot and move the phone/yourself around it.
Full gallery here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157644000900844/
The Samsung Gallery is quite advanced app, you get several views of you single images, folders and multi-folders with previews, and Air View helps checking content without tapping on it, hovering over with your fingers. Studio gives you a whole lot of options for editing, besides Photoshop-like functions and manipulations, you can make photo montages, trim videos, render slideshows and edit Shot and more mode photos.
Video recording is a great joy on the S5. Sound is clear (though I made the mistake of covering one of the stereo mics due to hand stabilization), software stabilization is quite usable and HDR is good, as well as recording in 60fps for smooth motion, though these are limited to 1080p resolution maximum. There's fast motion up to 8x and slow motion recording down to 1/8 speed without sound, but the real gem is recording the the marvelous 3840x2160 or 4k resolution, which is 4 times the pixel count of 1080p. Eventually we'll get 4k TVs and monitors, heck, tablets and phones come out with 2k/4MP displays nowadays which is almost there, so why not record in 4k right now? Just check the frame captures I posted below to see the details and low level of mp4 compression, you could print some of these frames. The trade-off is the lack of HDR, stabilization and 60FPS at this resolution, and a 5 minute clip limit since each 60 seconds recorded at 47MBit/s takes up around 350MBs. Yeah... In lower light you obviously lose some of the gorgeous details and noise comes up, but it's still quite nice.
60FPS sample 1: https://app.box.com/s/l5fwiyo0rfsm1wj2q328
60FPS sample 2: https://app.box.com/s/o1vlbzgjcel1pslw9nkv
Single frames: (click)
http://abload.de/img/vlcsnap-2014-04-12-00c0j9q.jpg
http://abload.de/img/vlcsnap-2014-04-17-142fjwg.jpg <--- 4x zoom!
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More frame captures here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157644093280315/
Conclusion
Overall the S5 camera is highly satisfying in this reviewer's option. I did not find a single case when white balance, saturation or exposure was off, operation is fast unless you have stability mode on in low-light, focus and dynamic range definitely improved, and you can choose among many video and photo options. Where's the biggest step forward? In consistency. Out of 10 shots you'll get good ones at a far better rate than before.
Obviously low light is the S5's weaker point, with less light you get softer images and need flash or high ISO to capture movement, but where you lose details to some rivals, you gain color accuracy, so Samsung's ISOCELL is getting there. Next stop should be OIS, but one thing they could do right now: allowing longer than 1/17s exposure times so we can set low ISO value and capture more dark details. Maybe the future Google camera API will open this option. Overall however, I think the shots speak for themselves: the S5 is a very capable shooter with some room for improvement, and you'll be able to pull many print-ready shots over your long usage. Just be aware: as good as the S5 battery is, things like 100% screen brightness and 4k recording kills the 2800mAh quite quickly, bring a spare battery or power bank.
Check the full gallery with EXIF info here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/
Tips and tricks
- Do multiple shots of the same subject, a good momentum or less handshake can later be selected out of the many
- HDR is one tap away, so do one with and without it, some shots look better with high contrast, others benefit from HDR
- In low light with movement, you have to use LED flash without stability, cause high ISO and longer shutter will not capture these moments with good detail
- In low light with stationary subject however, use stability, optionally LED, no HDR cause of noise. With enough lights you may try using ISO800 with darker results but more details. Much will depend on the amount of available light
- use voice commands to avoid tap-shake, hold the phone steady with two hands, optionally use a monopod
- try and use the photo Modes, some will do fancy images, others come handy like Sport mode to capture fast movement
- between Panorama and Surround Shot, I prefer the latter, cause it captures surroundings vertically too, so result won't be an overly wide image. The trick with photospheres is to not be close to the surrounding objects and have the camera lens in the absolute middle in space, and move the phone and yourself around that spot as the take the sphere images
- try alternative apps if they are better for you: CameraZoom FX, Focal, Google Camera etc. Camera Zoom FX allows 1/10 exposure and ISO1600 manually
- be aware not to cover the top and bottom microphones during video shoot. Best image quality comes from 4k, but image stabilization, 60FPS or HDR only works with 1080p, again best to test all these and later use the one best suited for you or the scene
- use AirView in Gallery, and try out Studio options for your recordings
- bring a power bank with longer photography tours cause a lot of camera usage and 100% brightness eats the battery quickly

Let's analyze! The first two striking qualities of the ISOCELL samples are: 1) eye popping wide dynamic range with rich colors, and 2) relative high noise and softness of the picture. I guess that's the tradeoff here.
Saturation is quite high yet not unrealistic, it simply looks to capture a wide color range, especially impressive in the Angry Birds photo inside. White balance is spot on. As far as Rich Tone (HDR) shots goes, it's pretty impressive as well, look how much more detail is presented without overprocessing the image. On the other hand, noise and softness is always present on these shots, even at low ISO, PureView and Exmor technology seems well ahead in per pixel sharpness. More to come.

men.. you are sure that it photo's from SGS5 ?

Pako7 said:
men.. you are sure that it photo's from SGS5 ?
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Yup. :good:
BTW, it appears that selective focus takes 4 photos or at least renders 4 photos, as samples played around with that setting have ~16MB size instead of the regular 4. So I guess the file can be shared and focus changed afterwards, wouldn't mind Google+ and other services allowing you to choose focus after upload.

BoneXDA said:
Yup. :good:
BTW, it appears that selective focus takes 4 photos or at least renders 4 photos, as samples played around with that setting have ~16MB size instead of the regular 4. So I guess the file can be shared and focus changed afterwards, wouldn't mind Google+ and other services allowing you to choose focus after upload.
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but why you delete all info? including EXIF.. It's not secret

Again its not isocell ( probably they saving it for Note 4 or GS6 )
no new flash ( same old led flash )
indoors photos still look like oil paint -->> no OIS indoors and low light images will suck
overall i think it will be like most of Galaxy flagships : great images when there is enough light but when there is not the image will suck

I think it is ISOCELL technology, the photos on PhoneArena are really not bad at and higher 5s z1.

yahyoh said:
Again its not isocell ( probably they saving it for Note 4 or GS6 )
no new flash ( same old led flash )
indoors photos still look like oil paint -->> no OIS indoors and low light images will suck
overall i think it will be like most of Galaxy flagships : great images when there is enough light but when there is not the image will suck
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It is the 16MP ISOCELL sensor they developed.

Pako7 said:
but why you delete all info? including EXIF.. It's not secret
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Oh, sorry about EXIF, I think that's the upload site doing, not sure why.

BoneXDA said:
Oh, sorry about EXIF, I think that's the upload site doing, not sure why.
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please re-upload a few full shot on other fileshare

These are apparently the official Samsung Galaxy S5 samples, normal vs. HDR
source, full size: http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2014/mwc-samsung-galaxy-s5.shtml

Skander1998 said:
It is the 16MP ISOCELL sensor they developed.
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why they didn't mention anything about it in the unpacking event ? even the official spec didnt say anything about isocell
all i can see some news writers bs

yahyoh said:
why they didn't mention anything about it in the unpacking event ? even the official spec didnt say anything about isocell
all i can see some news writers bs
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They just started mass production for the 16MP ISOCELL sensor.
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=34630
The article also mentions the new octa for the octa variant for the S5, also beginning mass production.
Samsung doesn't mention specific hardware specs anymore.

4k video sample in dim light:
yahyoh said:
why they didn't mention anything about it in the unpacking event ? even the official spec didnt say anything about isocell
all i can see some news writers bs
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Because Samsung never EVER goes technical about sensor tech, check their track record, they don't.
It is a vastly different sensor to the Exmors however, closer to Samsung own's Galaxy Cameras (softness of image, noise), but far superior in color balance and dynamic range, which is exactly what ISOCELL is all about. Add that announcers did show off new camera HW features and Android Authority claims ISOCELL was confirmed to them, so it's almost certainly that tech.
So where do you get your information that it isn't?

BoneXDA said:
All right, new stills from GSM Arena, normal vs. rich tone (HDR), direct linking so EXIF info should be included. Level of details don't justify 16MPs, but color reproduction and HDR quality is quite awesome!
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Thanks, but I saw this "photo".. It's not include full EXIF (view software version - Adobe Photoshop Ligthroom )

Pako7 said:
Thanks, but I saw this "photo".. It's not include full EXIF (view software version - Adobe Photoshop Ligthroom )
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Use this site, just copy image link:
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?

BoneXDA said:
Use this site, just copy image link:
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?
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hmm.. you don't understand
I know how will view full_exif. Full EXIF will be for example such as (sorry by russian lang)

Pako7 said:
hmm.. you don't understand
I know how will view full_exif. Full EXIF will be for example such as (sorry by russian lang)
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I'm not sure I understand you.
GSM Arena samples show EXIF info just fine.

BoneXDA said:
I'm not sure I understand you.
GSM Arena samples show EXIF info just fine.
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ok..
ps.. View snapshots from gsmarena, I found that on MWC_devices used camera modules :
16 Mp
ISP - Qualcomm
Sensor manufacturer - Samsung LSI
Release date - January 2014
Manufacturer of the module - is not yet known

BoneXDA said:
I'm not sure I understand you.
GSM Arena samples show EXIF info just fine.
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This is what he means, the S4 pic shows which fw the device was running, while the S5 pic shows Photoshop.

GCam 7 and 6 for Lenovo P2 [Android 8, 9 and 10] 13th August 2020

Dear friends,
November has been a very productive month for P2 owners with all sorts of Pie ROMs roaming around. But what everyone wants is a stable ROM with a working port of GCam 6.1 because it has got the magical "Night Sight" feature which actually does magic in low light.
For a unique camera experience; go to this page:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Google Camera 6.1
Search for:
MGC_6.1.021_FINAL_V1b_A8.1+
4/Dec/18:
MGC_6.1.021_B-S-G-based_v.0.1_TlnNeun
30/Dec/2018:
MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.3d_TlnNeun_2
Changelog:
1. Settings updated with options to enable/ disable Portrait Mode, Motion, Hide SlowMo, Max brightness
2. Added FIX settings for Black level adjustments for both cameras, Buffer Fix, Improved Low Light photos and Motion Photo resolution
2. Face retouching working well with Night Sight mode
3. Motion Capture works now
4th Feb 2019:
MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.3e_TlnNeun
1. Video capture in dark light works now. Just choose Pixel 3 from Settings>Advanced>Base>Interface style. Now kill the app from recents/ overview and adjust settings as mentioned below.
3. Swipe to Video and you'll see "Auto" on top left of screen. Keep it in auto mode and you can have video recording in dark light as well. See the screenshot.
14th Feb 2019
MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.4_TlnNeun
Changelog: (by developer)
- Pixel 3 AWB (auto white balance), by BSG/Savitar. There is no more pink shade, also colours with a lack of lighting are more natural. (Settings > Advanced > FIX > Pixel III AWB).
- Quick app opening.
- Lens blur is now enabled.
28th Feb 2019
MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.4a_TlnNeun
14th June 2019
Arnova's Advanced 1.6: Gcam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.6.190614.0200.apk
Recommended:
GCam 7.4.104 by Parrot043 for Android 10+
GCam 7.0 for Android 9 and Android 10 by Parrot043
Features:
# AWB of Pixel 4XL resulting in color saturation as shown by viewfinder for both cameras
# High level yet quick HDR processing
# Maximum possible zoom
# Fix green tint for front camera
# Binary settings as well as default saturation settings for better color correction if needed
# All features working except Slowmo
Tested on Official Mokee Android 10.
19th August 2019
MGC_6_1_021_xcam6_beta11.apk
Features:
1. Dark mode settings if system interface is dark
2. Improved front cam photographs and more natural color tone just like back cam
3. Brighter night mode with both cameras (Use SparklingNight config file for flawless front cam night sight)
4. Photobooth working
5. Manual focus control and lot more
Google Camera 7
GCam_7.0.009_A_011.apk by marlin-ku
Features:
Night Sight replaced Panorama
Swipe down to access quick settings to enable one-hand usage
Quick toggle for ISO/Exposure Time for HDR+ and Night Sight
Time Lapse up to 120x
Long press screen to access Google Lens immediately
Long press image viewer for accessing a setting of your choice
Long press shutter to record a quick video (not working though)
Green tint on front camera fix in Color Settings
4k Video recording working
Developer settings available for further tweaking as per your phone's capability
Bugs:
Face retouching isn't working even in Night Sight unless you select "test key Pixel2017 or 2016" from "Mask". However, it will disable the Portrait mode
SlowMo not working. However, it never works for me with GCam so try it yourself.
Google Camera 7 may only work with Android 9 and above. Please, test yourself if you are on Android 8 and report in the thread.
Google Camera 7 for Android 10
PMGC_7.0.009_PopugVersion_V11_1
Front camera greenish photos under dim light can be corrected by doing few things:
1. Enable HDR+ enhanced from drop down menu
2. Go into advanced settings and set time for front camera "1/5s" in ISO/ Exposure Time HDR+ or ISO 100. 1/5 captures photos faster though.
3. Reduce HDR+ frames to 5-10. Whenever you want to capture night shots without flash then enable HDR+ enhanced.
Configuration file
Video Capture Issues:
GCam is bad at capturing videos with P2.
Hence, install Open Camera, select 30 fps from video setting of the app then select audio source as default or optimised for voice recognition.
Keep resolution at 1080p for capturing, otherwise app will force close.
Adjust exposure while capturing videos at will.
This solution would work on Android 10 as well and it will record audio too.
Don't forget to test capture video to understand how it works.
Note: Config files are given as attachments.
What works:
Portrait, Night Sight, Face Retouching, AR Stickers, Playground, Photobooth, Panorama, RAW image, Video capture, Photo sphere, Lens, Motion Capture, Super Res-Zoom (Full zoom with HDR+ enabled), SlowMo (ROM dependent), Lens Blur
Comparison of Lenovo P2 photos with Pixel 3a XL photos. Thanks to @andyscuff!
Having green tint in front cam photos? Try this!
How to import config files for GCam?
FAQs and Troubleshooting
AR Stickers for Android 8 & Playground for Android 9!
Download, install and get pumped for a new camera experience :highfive:
It is not my work at all so don't forget to Support and Thank the worthy developers who are working day&night for a flawless modded GCam for Android devices.
Also share if your favorite ROM allows this Gcam port to work in full swing. Sharing of some photos will be an added benefit. Peace!

Samples of como6ariso between photos with night sight and without night sight

Not working for Lenovo p2 lineage os 15.1

Work fine on crdroid 9.0
Inviato dal mio Lenovo P2a42 utilizzando Tapatalk

rahulacharya029826 said:
Samples of como6ariso between photos with night sight and without night sight
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I didn't play with it much because I couldn't get a chance to check it in clear outdoors but the attached photos might be useful.

[email protected] said:
Not working for Lenovo p2 lineage os 15.1
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As far as I know, RR is the only 8.1 ROM for P2 with almost zero or controllable bugs so an upgrade to RR should do the trick.

i found thiis version MGC_6.1.021_FINAL_V1b_A8.1+ .apk = it works but i don't know how to set it up
where to find BSG MOD settings ? when i go to gcam settings its not there

How to Solve this, When i take close up/ near side images using flash , the picture become so bright and over exposure, what is this issue i attached a image ,.
AEX 5.8 Oreo

HACKIMTOSH said:
i found thiis version MGC_6.1.021_FINAL_V1b_A8.1+ .apk = it works but i don't know how to set it up
where to find BSG MOD settings ? when i go to gcam settings its not there
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The version is alright and BSG Settings are above all other settings. See the attachments.

salmanvts said:
How to Solve this, When i take close up/ near side images using flash , the picture become so bright and over exposure, what is this issue i attached a image ,.
AEX 5.8 Oreo
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May be the camera is not focusing the object you are capturing. First touch the area you want to focus and then capture. Otherwise, restart the app. I tried a few flash photos and found that it did shoot few overexposed photos. I restarted the app and it was all good again.

Tested on pie works like charm video doesn't work though

yourmine20 said:
Tested on pie works like charm video doesn't work though
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flash the pie video fix zip file and it will work too .

tanzeel.ahmed1306 said:
flash the pie video fix zip file and it will work too .
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Did that didn't work

yourmine20 said:
Did that didn't work
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fix video for pie work for me

kalel77 said:
fix video for pie work for me
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Flashing video recording fix by Astrid always works for me.
Can confirm.
I have tried all pie roms, and the zip fixed it for all of them.

sm00th4f3 said:
Flashing video recording fix by Astrid always works for me.
Can confirm.
I have tried all pie roms, and the zip fixed it for all of them.
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Sorry it did fixed it thanks

4th December build available. Check first post for info and instructions.

Front camera portrait mode doesnt work for me, did all the instructions.

Doesn't it capture photos or is there problem with photos? Which ROM?

alirazaagha said:
Doesn't it capture photos or is there problem with photos? Which ROM?
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There is green tint in portrait

[Gcam] [10-11] Gcam for A70 with wide angle

This is a modded version of the gcam by tigr that I made for the a70 with wide angle camera working
I thought I'd share incase someone finds it useful.
Base: trcamera xmas release
Dev: tigr
Gcam version: 7.4
*Features
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Wide angle support
Portrait
Video
16 x zoom (digital)
Night sight with astrophotography optional
Raw+jpeg capture (import raw file to lightroom to view it as samsung gallery has a bug of showing only low resolution)
Hdr+ and hdr+ enhanced (use hdr+ for fast pictures and motion photo or hdr+ enhanced for the best quality)
Motion photo (viewable in google photos only)
Pro mode for manual focus / iso / shutter speed (toggle auto/pro mode in viewfinder)
Focus tracking (toggle on/off in viewfinder but disable for better performance as it may cause lag)
Google awb (toggle on/off from drop-down menu, recommended only for night sight or for unique shots)
Libpatcher advanced enabled for better processing and customized for a70
Enabled DCI-P3 color space
*Install instructions
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Place config in internal storage/trCamera/XMLConfigs folder
Install gcam, open, and give required permissions
Double tap on black bar beside the capture button
Select config and restore
make sure to use the gcam provided below as it won't work with other mods
And dont mess with the settings as it was made with the optimal settings specifically for the a70
For oneui 2.0, 2.5, and 3.1
Make sure to check out our telegram channel for more gcam mods for the a70
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A70 GCam Configs
Hi. This is where admins and I share some GCam Configs for Samsung A70. Enjoy
t.me
*App/config download:
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GCam link:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=17248734326145724540
Config link:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=17248734326145724594
Credits:
gcam devs
and my friends at telegram for helping and testing

reserved

Can't seem to find the folder of Trcamera...

Nick312 said:
Can't seem to find the folder of Trcamera...
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Create a folder in internal storage as mentioned above trCamera and inside create another one called XMLConfigs

Love this version, but I can't seem to find how to turn on the 3x3 grid, it helps me a lot to take good pics. Also, pics sometimes have too much contrast with this config (main lens) and the pics on the wide angle lens are too noisy.

Batpope said:
Love this version, but I can't seem to find how to turn on the 3x3 grid, it helps me a lot to take good pics. Also, pics sometimes have too much contrast with this config (main lens) and the pics on the wide angle lens are too noisy.
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The grid cam be found if you go to settings/general settings (first option)
And unfortunately the quality of the wide angle camera isn't great to begin with and if i wanted to decrease the noise the picture will become unnatural and not that good

AbOuLfOoOoOuF said:
The grid cam be found if you go to settings/general settings (first option)
And unfortunately the quality of the wide angle camera isn't great to begin with and if i wanted to decrease the noise the picture will become unnatural and not that good
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Oops, don't know how I missed the grid option, thanks! Damn that sucks about the wide camera, but yeah, I figured. Thanks!

why would u need DCI-P3 or AdobeRGB or anything other than sRGB?
sRGB is best option for JPEGs. If u don't believe me - ggl it. AdobeRGB, for example, will use same 256 gradations but map it to different colors. Those "colors" will be outside of normal sRGB spectrum in which most displays work. What u will get is less gradations and more banding of regular sRGB colors.

Thank you very much! I had a problem with the latest update and ended up bringing it to the Samsung repair service. My old gcam wont work the way it used to. This one takes photos a little slower than 7.3 (?) but still good quality photos. I really appreciate it!

General [CLOSED]Asus, Gcam and OpenCamera night shots compared...

I just did a quick test of how well the stock Asus camera, GCam and Open Camera handle shots taken at night: I downloaded the GCam APK from XDA: GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.1 and the Open Camera from F-Droid onto my Zenfone 8. I took the same shot of the exterior of my apartment block, including trees and greenery, with all three cameras.
I used normal and night modes with the Asus and GCam and Normal and DRO modes with the open camera and then compiled all the shots into a layered Photoshop file so that I could easily compare them.
The Asus night mode gave a much better result than the normal mode. The shadows had slightly more detail and much more color information than the normal mode. But they are aggressively sharpened and have a somewhat processed look.
The GCam normal and night modes had more color and slightly more detail in the shadows than the Asus night mode. They have much less sharpening than the Asus picture and so don't show as much detail, but they have a more natural appearance.
I wish I could turn down the sharpening of the Asus pictures, and turn up the sharpening of the GCam pictures. Unfortunately the Asus camera does not have a way to turn down the sharpening in either the Photo or Pro modes.
There is a setting in GCam to increase sharpening but it's not intuitive and I haven't messed with it yet.
The Open Camera gave really poor results in night and DRO modes, so soft and grainy that it's not something I'd ever use.
I've attached a detail from the Asus and GCam night mode shots and the DRO OpenCamera shot.
This was just a quick and simple test entirely for my own satisfaction, and the results of course are subjective. I'm now going to experiment with the GCam > Advanced > Ram Patcher >Sharpness setting and see If I can increase the sharpening and get a result somewhere between the the softer GCam default and the Asus overprocessed look...

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Themes / Apps / Mods Gcam for X90 Pro+

I think this deserves it's own thread.
Installation description and download link is given here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...vivo-system-app-ver-2-5.4533545/post-87946927
Right now only the version 8.4 is working - though 8.7 is already published.
It's a tiny bit slower - especially in the dark vs the vivo camera. The colors are very different - in general I feel in the dark Vivo is more correct - but gcam has the advantage of no auto night mode mwhich means you have to use Sports mode (which isn't perfect at night as it's exposure is very quick).
In general pictures - especially on the zoom lens are a bit sharper vs stock camera. On the zoom lens at 10x and above it's significantly sharper. I would say at 20x the Google camera manages 20-30% more detail minimum and avoids the oversharpening that the Vivo camera does (do not pixel peep at the 10x or 20x pictures of the vivo camera - it's mostly awful when the vivo AI for example detects text - but much much batter on the gcam).
However I think we somehow miss the HDR - or am I top stupid to find it? Could it be that because we need to select Pixel 2 - we only get features that are available on Pixel 2?
I'll attach a screenshot showing the missing HDR and the difference in zoom detail.
It's a bit annoying that at night the gcam sometimes is way off on white balance at night. With way off I mean way off. Otherwise I prefer it over the stock camera for pictures (I didn't really take videos so cannot comment there).
The really nice thing about gcam is how you can select each lens and force it to be used - unlike Vivo that especially at night does not use the 2x camera - and sometimes not even the periscope. All lenses work.
Edit - I found the HDR mode. You can enable it by clicking on HDR in the Auto white balance row - then another row pops up with HDR settings (off, on, enhanced).

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Missing HDR+
Details in gcam - 1 level above the stock camera.
It's noisier but the colors are more accurate on the vivo stock camera except the dark green which is better on gcam. The orange in the middle in reality is a tiny bit darker than in the Vivo pic. But here it appears red. Besides that it's actually hard to tell which color is more accurate. There are many examples which I will not show here however - where the gcam was way off indoors at LED lightbulb light.
Details on stock camera below
Oh yeah - I did check that the Vivo here choses the periscope camera. Cropping into the main lens is a bit worse. Let me attach a sample too (taken with gcam as I cannot force the vivo stock camera to use the main lens). I really do feel Vivo should have gone for 4.5x zoom on the periscope camera. Up to 4x the main sensor doesn't do too badly. And just for the sake of it I will take one with the 2x cam too - I think the 2x is worst at zoom. It's a portrait camera only.
Main sensor (10x zoom is max so it's s but bigger than the other ones)
2x sensor.
Actually - well the 2x sensor does capture more detail than a crop into the pixel binned main sensor (or is gcam going into the unbinned sensor? But it's clear the lens of the 2x is too slow / surface too small so it suffers here at roomlight and is really really noisy.

@extremecarver Could you change thread title to Themes/ Apps/ Mods. I think is better than "Question"

done

Btw, the gcam from BSG version 8.7 (current) is also compatible.
Just if you mess up a setting you have to reinstall. Not sure why, changing the setting back doesn't help. It seems to have better colors on first try, but resolution identical to stock camera...
It's bad you cannot install BSG and bigkaka in parallel. It gives me an error notice when I try to do so

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It's bad you cannot install BSG and bigkaka in parallel. It gives me an error notice when I try to do so
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If you are trying to install 2 mods that have the same signature (Snapcam for example), it's normal that it doesn't work.
I know in the other thread I stated that SNAPCAM package is recommended for Vivo/Oppo/OnePlus devices because it allows access to all camera lenses, however it looks like something has changed for the better because I'm currently using the com.agc.cam signature for the AGC GCam, and all lenses are recognized without issues.
In short, if you want to have both BSG GCam and Big Kaka AGC ,
Download the BSG version that has Snapcam signature (others like com.android.mgc could possibly work as well, it's just that I haven't tested them):
BSG: MGC_8.7.250_A11_V6
Download MGC_8.7.250_A11_V6 by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
And for AGC, download the one that's on top (com.agc.cam)
BigKaka: AGC8.4.300_V9.3
Download AGC8.4.300_V9.3 by BigKaka.
www.celsoazevedo.com
IMPORTANT FOR AGC USERS:
Noise models for our X90 Pro+ have been submitted by user Viktor. The .c files can be imported in AGC settings. BSG doesn't have this feature.
If you don't know what this stuff is, you can read on the topic here https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/morgenman/noise-modeller-how-to/
Download noise models for all 4 back cameras here: https://drive.google.com/drive/fold...rIYRBKKq_6NlufPwrgGQMNXkbNJA-OInawB64cO9U9zSJ
the models can be imported in
Lens settings > choose lens (Main 1x, Ultrawide 0.6x, Tele 2.2x, Tele 3.9x) > Noise model > and finally Import noise model
from my short testing, the OV64B tele benefits the most from the custom noise model.
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The really nice thing about gcam is how you can select each lens and force it to be used - unlike Vivo that especially at night does not use the 2x camera - and sometimes not even the periscope.
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"Auto switch of lens" should be disabled

Thanks for that info - However after I selected to show debug focus information in the gcam - now it seems something is broken/leftover. I rebooted, uninstalled, reinstalled, tried different versions - and now any version is crashing on boot.
In general my gcams would crash if I don't select Pixel 2 XL (Taimen) interface mode. Strangely this was not needed at the beginning.
Important things for setup and getting the colors much more accurate: - strangely this worked for all lenses -
In color transform - chose IMX989 Mi12US AGC
this changes the colors dramatically and makes them much more accurate (bigkaka). Clearly a proper color transform for Vivo x90 Pro+ would be evne better - but with that setting you get close to the vivo camera.
Then enable Auto-CT and put a slight offset of 1.1-1.3 on the CCT WB Offset.
If you prefer more vivid and contrast - similar to the Vivid mode on the stock camera - set WB-Intensity to 1.2
and WB Saturation to 1.2,
This gives in general contrast/white balance/saturation similar to the stock camera without the occassional comic look of the vivid mode. It's a bit in between Zeiss Natural Colors and Vivid.
CCT WB Correction and WB color space fix I ticked too - but could not notice much difference.
The google camera is much sharper, has better focus I feel, and especially if the light situation is difficult - it will produce much better pictures. With a caveat - the stock camera AI is better at making light sources/the sun smaller instead of overblowing them.
I kinda feel all that Zeiss T* coating seems like a bit of rubbish when you compare with gcam and with gcam it looks just like any other smartphone on light sources. Vivo in that field simply upped the AI (however maybe with the problem that the whole rest of the picture is worse). Clearly I feel Vivo camera is not that great at all. It's just the hardware that is good and of course as we don't have the perfect setup for gcam - Vivo camera is more consistent.
Bugs/shortcoming on the gcam:
1. No macro mode/no auto macro. The manual focus for me did not work. The minimum focus distance on the stock camera vs the gcam is about half.
2. The 2x portrait camera is kinda useless on the gcam. Because I cannot see one ounce of a difference by taking pictures in normal or portrait mode on the 2x lens.
3. Should have much more scene modes
4. Not strong on beauty effects. Basically there aren't any vs a vast selection on Vivo stock camera - however if you want those just rarely - use the vivo editor to increase eye size, smoothen skintones, change face shape and whatever. However say you often photograph your girlfriend who want's to look "beautiful" - especially Asian girlfriends - it's so much more convenient to find a setting that works good on the Vivo cam and just use it everytime. Well clearly here we get into the woohaa supermodel on picture vs average girl in real life terrain which is just so common in Asia.
5. I haven't really tried portraits yet - but I think portraits may be better on the Vivo camera in general.
6. If you use HDR instead of HDR enhanced - the sharpness is about the same as on the Vivo camera - however the spead is also the same and you have better fine tuning for pictures.
Overall right now (if I manage to get the camera running again) I feel like gcam is better for landscape, zoomed pictures, and night photos. The stock camera is better for everything else and switches lenses much faster - but severly lacks on color balance. Compared to gcam it's laughable to just have Zeiss and Vivid mode - and both aren't good at all.
When I say night pictures I mean pictures that look good. Not pictures that have detail in every shadow. Though actaully the gcam is only a little bit worse here vs the stock camera while making much more harmonic/beautiful/realistic pictures. Vivo night mode - sorry to say so, sucks for pictures. It's great as a night view machine (can be improved a bit by focussing on the lightest part of the picture at night).
Oh yeah - gcam night view is miles ahead on detail and sharpness vs vivo night mode when we take out the often/mostly too strong HDR of the vivo cam.
Besides the problems of crashing, slow lens switching, macro mode which all will be likely hard to fix - I feel the gcam has way more potential if we had a really good config/setup. and could replace the stock cam for everything but portrait right now.

Okay got it running again. I think it happened because the two versions influenced each other. If one Version is crashing it may somehow take the other one down too.
If there is a crash report, it makes it easier have a look at it in chrome and sometimes it has something useful. It said something about lense and then I disabled all lenses and re enabled one by one (starting with the 3.9) and somehow that fixed it .
bsg actually has a super macro mode - on bigkaka it's missing. If you mess up BSG, you need to do a full reset. Just changing the function that you set to break the app back - usually does not help. That's really strange.
I think easiest is to use stock camera and if your not happy then gcam. Because stock camera is faster and has better modes. For Landscape could default to bigkaka. At night it depends - it seems to be really a lottery which one takes better shots - and each setting is wildly different. Photos against sunlight - the stock camera seems to fail consistently. So that is a case for bigkaka.
We would need a proper auto white balance and color profile for bigkaka - then it could outclass the default camera quite easily. Missing this it's a bit hit or miss. That is if you need the better sharpness - go for bigkaka and HDR enhanced or night view.

How do you make BigKaka app work? It keeps crashing when I open it, I can go directly to settings, but if I open the camera normally, it crashes.
The BSG version works.

Start with a single Lens like 3.9x for debugging only. You may need to set interface as pixel 2 xl, and stream as sdk28. Then add other lenses, 1,3,4,,5,6 afterwards.
I think for bigkaka only snapcam and aweme version works. Try snapcam first. BSG for me also default version works. But yeah as soon as you set something wrong BSG needs full reset.

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Start with a single Lens like 3.9x for debugging only. You may need to set interface as pixel 2 xl, and stream as sdk28. Then add other lenses, 1,3,4,,5,6 afterwards.
I think for bigkaka only snapcam and aweme version works. Try snapcam first. BSG for me also default version works. But yeah as soon as you set something wrong BSG needs full reset.
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No, every package works perfectly. When you set something wrong in bsg you can access the settings with an "activity launcher" from Playstore. You can easily skip the viewfinder and jump directly into the settings. Change back what caused the crash and you are good to go.

On bigkaka you can do a long click and get right into settings without activity launcher. And yes on bigkaka restoring what caused the crash seems to work mostly. Not always but I think that is due to some instabilities. Some settings will launch if you ijstantly after opening click into the camera field, without it will crash.
Only on BSG you need activity launcher and for some settings restoring them doesn't help. Only way to get BSG working again then is to use activity launcher into settings and full reset (somehow there is something different from uninstall/reinstall vs reset - though I haven't found out what. Maybe some files are written outside of the app folder and therefore require reset via full reset menu point).
I guess this is somehow hardware related and the lenses remember what position was used or similar and with instable settings it can lead to crashes ...
I'm not even sure we can create a colour model that works universally. I guess the stock cams have quite a few models depending on the AI settings and what they detect regarding white balance. We would need a separate model of white balance for each kind of light type (except if having identical sensors to a Pixel model)
I also miss manual white balance on the gcams...
With manual I mean photographing a white sheet and then the camera adjust the white balance for getting the white sheet perfectly white. That's what you do on any kind of professional camera, especially in film when you want your actors to look the same skin tone no matter the lighting.

Oh yeah - and supposedly our cam features camera2 Level 3+ access - but if you set that on BSG it crashes. Only level 3 works sadly.

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Oh yeah - and supposedly our cam features camera2 Level 3+ access - but if you set that on BSG it crashes. Only level 3 works sadly.
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I have tried bsg once only. I prefer Shamim or LMC.

Could you please post screenshots of how you set up the lenses on LMC and shanmin? Both crash on me (got LMC to open with 2 lenses, then tried to add more now cannot even get into settings again even though I reset data and uninstalled/reinstalled).
On Shanmin I didn't even find the lens selection section (are you using 8.7 beta v3?)
Edit: found the bug on not being able to get into settings. First need or let it start and crash once...

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Could you please post screenshots of how you set up the lenses on LMC and shanmin? Both crash on me (got LMC to open with 2 lenses, then tried to add more now cannot even get into settings again even though I reset data and uninstalled/reinstalled).
On Shanmin I didn't even find the lens selection section (are you using 8.7 beta v3?)
Edit: found the bug on not being able to get into settings. First need or let it start and crash once...
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I'm using the latest 8.4 version of Shamim right now because I have made a lib some months back which doesn't work in newer gcam versions.

Thanks, well I figured it out don't activate id5. But the preview in LMC in the dark is unusable. Too dark to focus except on main lens. Have to see a bit right now it's the worst but I haven't set up anything yet besides the order of the cameras. Right now at night it's really not useful yet.

By now I got them all running on default settings, but well I have to say details wise at night clear win for bigkaka, then stock camera in night mode , then auto night mode, then quite a bit worse LMC/Shanmin..
I'm not sure anymore which gcam mod had Pxl in its name - that one was quite good too quality wise - but I think it wasn't as stable. In general bigkaka seems to be quite unstable if you mess around in the settings. LMC/Shanmin accept much more settings - but the quality at night (didn't test during the day) is just horrible in comparison to AGC and stock. At first the stabilization doesn't seem to work in night mode - meaning lots of blur, second in HDR+ mode they are as good as the stock cam in normal mode - but bigkaka blows them out of the water so to say.
How much is this difference - actually quite a lot. While bigkaka in night mode will look sharp on a 4k screen in full size - it's hdr+ mode and the stock camera night mode are about sharp enough for 0.75 of the size. The normal mode on the vivo stock cam and the HDR simple mode are about the same at 0.5 the size - wile LMC and Shanmin can only fill 0.4 of the screen while still looking sharp enough.
bigkaka the big problem is auto white balance - not sure about LMC/Shanmin here. They seem quite similar but I haven't tested in many locations yet.
I didn't get Shanmin 8.7 to run, maybe that one is much sharper. It seems to be quite different from the 8.4 version. The strange thing is - settings that crash one mod, will run fine in another . Sometimes it will only crash after stopping the app and restarting - or similar. It's really frustrating if the app crashes to find out what causes it.
I miss a high resolution mode on bigkaka - it doesn't seem to exist. However the high resolution mode in LMC is pretty strange too - it takes pictures at half the sensor resolution (instead of default 1/4). Clearly this will only matter under very good light. Roomlight 10MP is plenty big, at night well 5MP would likely easily cut it.
I will not play with RAW before I get the jpg somehow better than stock. I still don't understand why bigkaka is soo much sharper vs the other gcam mods.
If bigkaka would not be so unreliable on colors it would be the clearly best choice.

So let's make things more interesting for our device.
Vivo already makes an excellent job controling the lights so whenever theres artificial lights or HDR scenes involved it's the best to use Stock.
But it lacks on textures and details sometimes.
That's why we've been working on GCam to make our experience even better.
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Download and Install the APK
Move the XML's to Internal Storage/LMC 8.4/
Long press the GCam icon > Take Video
Load the XML by double clicking near the shutter button area.
Option 2 follows other path
Internal Storage/SGCAM/LIB
Internal Storage/SGCAM/XML
Place the files there and load the XML like above.
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We also created a Google Photos Album for users to share their Vivo Pics (Stock or Not)
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310 new items added to shared album
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I really prefer AGC gcam (except for sunsets or zoom lens in low light where AGC fails often).