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Which FAST charger I should order for my new Huawei P9

Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.

gomcse2002 said:
Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.
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P9 doesn't support fast charging
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Akhayev said:
P9 doesn't support fast charging
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HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working

anyone who can provide a link to where i can buy one with an eu plug?

I'm considering buying this phone over the S7 (although still undecided) and I still don't get the battery thing (charging or battery life, I get people telling me all sorts of contradictory things that I'm having a hard time to fact check). That 9V/2A charger doesn't come with the phone, right? How much faster is that Huawei charger compared with the 5V that comes with the phone and what is it called since I can't find it on their site or anywhere? Is that the Mate 8 charger?

Yes it's mate 8 charger
Отправлено с моего EVA-L09 через Tapatalk

raber111 said:
Yes it's mate 8 charger
Отправлено с моего EVA-L09 через Tapatalk
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Cheers! :good:

scedric57 said:
HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?

Well, no EU plug still available. But it will be later I think. It is not QC 2 or 3, it won't work. Search for "Huawei 9V 2A Charger".
The result should be like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-9V...hash=item280f7d97a4:m:mNQwKZr7I5KHReS9CA2RwkA
As I metioned, no EU plug yet, so via adapter only.

Milamber said:
Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?
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Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)

tnhh said:
Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)
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Perfect, he had 3 and I nailed 2 of them
Hopefully these will quick charge.

Please post results!

The photo shows it is 5V 2A charger, so it is a standart, not a Huawei Quick Charge (9V 2A).

scedric57 said:
HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?

Kutusov said:
Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?
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hi i never look before
i just charge now at 21h59 and 46% i will post the result at 100%
Edit: 100% at 23h02 ( 54% in 1h00 approximatly) but when i have the time i will try a full charge because the fast charge is more active at the start and midle of charging

With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes

ladxxdal said:
With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes
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Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery

scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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to be confirmed

scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
I'm really on the fence about this fast charging thing now. I never got it. Qualcomm's has its QC 2.0 tech but a Motorola charger is faster than any other. An S7 Edge with amuch bigger battery charges as fast as an HTC 10 and the Edge has a 2.0 QC and the HTC is 3.0. The G5 is also 3.0 and charges way faster than the HTC, even compensating for the different battery capacity. And I own a G2 which has no fast charging at all and will charge from 0 to 100% in less than 2 hours on a 5V generic charger, which isn't very far off the times I see with 3000mah batteries and Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0... Why these differences?? No idea... Somehow I think battery chemistry has a lot to do with it (it does in the RC and electronic cigarette world) but I never see anyone addressing that.
^^^^sorry for the rambling, just thinking/writing out loud

Kutusov said:
It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
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Nearly right! A little analogy may help... Think of Voltage (V) as the diameter of the water tap, Ampage (A) as the speed of the water through the tap and Wattage (W) as how quick you want the bath the taps are filling!
So you can see, a small diameter tap but high water speed will still not fill bath very quickly, neither will a big diameter tap and slow water speed...you need both together. So 9V2A should charge quicker than 5V2A (18W compared to 10W).
As I understand it the P9 will accept charging at 9V and 2A (their Fast Charging) giving max 18W input so a 9V2A charger should give the best results (which is what the P8's fast charger is)...and what the qualcomm quick charge 2.0 (and 3.0) spec can provide. Now i'm not saying the P9 is a qualcomm quick charge phone, it's not, but my QC2.0 and 3.0 car chargers certainly charge my phone quicker than the included mains charger! So i suspect that the car chargers are providing 9V2A to the phone.
Whether this means any 9V2A charger would do......I don't know

For those wondering about using a power bank to charge their OP3

One of the big concerns I had with the proprietary Dash Charging system is whether I'd be able to use previously purchased power banks.
I've been testing my OP3 with the RAVPower 26800mAh powerbank along with the Anker USB-C to USB 2.0 cable.
The powerbank is capable of outputting 2.4a, which produces a quick charge on other devices.
On the OP3, I get between 30 and 57% charge / h (measured using the Battery Monitor Widget app), which is acceptable to me.
It's not Dash Charging speed, but it'll work in case you were wondering.

MI Charger
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.

quote from Android central
"For the first time, OnePlus is including a fast charging system on the OnePlus 3. Rather than go with another standard like Qualcomm's Quick Charge, OnePlus made its own "Dash Charge" system. Dash Charge promises a 60% charge on your OnePlus 3 in just 30 minutes, which is just as fast as any other system — the only catch here is you'll have to use the Dash Charger in the box and the included cable.
Your OnePlus 3 will charge just fine off of other chargers — whether they're Quick Charge 3.0, Nexus Rapid Charge or something else — but you just won't get Dash Charge speeds."

I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Seemed like a good choice as outputting 3.6A would be good enough for me. Would you be able to point me a link where to purchase it from? Many thanks.

are you sure the 3.6a isnt a maximum of all the ports on the bank?
usually if they have multiple ports they say a maximum load for all being X, but I've only ever seen a maximum amperage of 2.4a on a port (few and far between) most 2.1a as stated per port.
even then they charge my OP3 at 1.2a using oneplus's cable, same as my s5 beforehand.
there is a great app on the store called Ampere which tells you your current charging/discharging amps

superbrowndude said:
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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and ?? whats the verdict ?

It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Link to that powerbank please

Framedtrash said:
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Check my post on another thread,
You can use OPPO VOOC Powerbank,
It charge as fast as at least 3.5A

It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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Hastaloego said:
and ?? whats the verdict ?
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result

Framedtrash said:
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.

OP3 is only able to charge at 1.5A max with everything except the dash charger and cable, from my tests.

BoiBundy said:
No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time

crzykiller said:
No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3

What's the easiest way to test what amperage a non-Dash charger is charging at? I'm curious to know if some of my Quick Charge adapters will provide 2.4A. I've only done a very brief test with my QC3 car charger, but it gave me 3% in about 4 minutes. That's about what I was getting on a QC2.0 phone, and that's perfectly acceptable in my books.

BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Huh? that's my first comment lol and VOOC and DASH are exactly the same technology and have their specific patent. As far as I know, it will only charge with those specific chargers since it is not only the charging brick holding some proprietary charging solution but also the cable. I have a USB-C cable that can withstand over 4A but will not work even when plugged to the DASH charger. Now yes there may be a charger that quick charges this phone but it'd be very unlikely that it does exist since the cable and brick would have to have the exact specifications as the DASH/VOOC chargers.

BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Haha
As stated VOOC and DASH are the exact same thing, VOOC was created by OPPO and the rebranded by oneplus
No amount of software is going to change a hardware limitation
I guess your going to tell me that a dev is going to release a software patch that restores the headphone jack on a iPhone
Download ampere from the playstore if you want to get a rough idea of what your device is charging at
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fp1707 said:
Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
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Same question. Really interested in the Oneplus Power Bank charging results. Please.

Found replacement fast charger (UPDATE 8/10/16)

I took a chance for the fun of it and bought a 15 dollar (at the time of writing this) charger from newegg here and it works perfectly. This post took me about 5 minutes to write and i plugged my Mate 8 in a 43% and now it is at 54%. When it plugs in, it even gives me the Fast Charging notification and says so on the lock screen. Highly recommend it, for USA owners only or you will need a converter plug.

I think you need the original hauwei quick charger to get 9v2.4a "quick charge".
Im using a QC 2.0 which should do 9v2a, but do not get "quick charge" message, and using software, only see up to 1.7ah; however with the original charger; I get 2.6ah.
What I also noticed was the with the original charger its goes up to 2.6ah in bursts (from 1.4 to 2.6ah) and not constant, while the QC 2.0 have constant 1.7ah.
Not sure which is faster. Also some cables don't go above 500mah, and some cables do give "quick charge" message on original charger. Ordered USB voltage tester to test more.
Im also looking for source for cheap oem hauwei charger.

HUAWEI HW-059200CHQ with EU plug: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...L-Charger-adapter-for-Huawei/32668184405.html

Huawei charger with option for EU or US plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-9V-...hash=item2a6b21d483:m:mKEdY4PKIJdpJ0H_NQVZoCQ

As long it covers the signed agreement between Huawei (FCP) and Qualcomm QC2.0 to support both standards it should work with our mate 8. It must be a 9V2A , be careful some of those sold on AliExpress may have only one voltage of 5v1a and that won't do any fast charging.

ronnie72 said:
Huawei charger with option for EU or US plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-9V-...hash=item2a6b21d483:m:mKEdY4PKIJdpJ0H_NQVZoCQ
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Just got the EU version of this one in, can confirm it's identical to the one that came with my Mate 8 and does proper quick charging.

Amazon Good Replacement Quick Charger
this is compatible for the US..very fast charging..even more so than the original charger the Mate 8 came with..I went from 40% until 67% in just under 15 minutes

so i just got mate 8. as usually everyone need more than one charger. is it true that even a charger with QC 2.0 will not charge our phone as fast as the original charger?
i dont have budget to buy $30 charger - will check ebay later.
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keyid said:
I think you need the original hauwei quick charger to get 9v2.4a "quick charge".
Im using a QC 2.0 which should do 9v2a, but do not get "quick charge" message, and using software, only see up to 1.7ah; however with the original charger; I get 2.6ah.
What I also noticed was the with the original charger its goes up to 2.6ah in bursts (from 1.4 to 2.6ah) and not constant, while the QC 2.0 have constant 1.7ah.
Not sure which is faster. Also some cables don't go above 500mah, and some cables do give "quick charge" message on original charger. Ordered USB voltage tester to test more.
Im also looking for source for cheap oem hauwei charger.
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this is copy pasted from someone else reply regarding my question of why QC 2 charger is slower than original huawei.
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They both have the same power QC 9V x 2A =18W or 12V x 1.5V =18W compared to Huawei 9V 2A =18 Watts
However for the Huawei Mate 8, the only charger that will give you 18W worth of charging power is the Huawei SmartPower charger. Anything else charges it at 10W maximum.
And the Huawei SmartPower charger can only charge other devices at 5V 2A = 10W as well. It only switches up to 9V when it sees a Huawei chip inside the other device.
So it's not 12V 1.5A being 0.5A less than 9V 2.0A - Power is Volts multiplied by Amps.
On that particular phone, if you use a Huawei charger you get 18W. If you use ANY non-Huawei charger, you get 10W.
If the battery capacity is 4000mAh at nominal 3.7V, and the charging circuit is 80% efficient then you need to chuck (4 x 3.7 / 0.8) = 18.5 Watts of power into it to charge it. An 18W charger will do that in just over an hour. A 10W charger will take 1.85 Hours which is almost double the time.
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Keep in mind that fast charging wears out the battery more than regular charging. If you have time, use a normal charger with lower current.

Bah, what doesnt wear out a lithium battery? Fast charge on, we can all get replacement batteries for this thing. theyre cheap anyway.

33W Charger

Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.

MarkRobert said:
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
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You can buy the xiaomi 27W QC4 charger it does 27-35W

realme x2 pro has 50W, so something there shud fit

I've tried various chargers but the SOC was >85% so it wasn't a proper test. With most charger (QC or PD) I've gotten 15W, including with my 65W PD laptop charger. With the original charger I got 20-22W. If it's important to check the power, I can wait until it's discharged and redo the tests, which I plan to do anyway.
For travelling, I find it a lot more useful to have the 36W (18W QC + 18W PD?) cheap Amazon charger with 2xUSB-A and 1xUSB-C, which has the same size as the original charger: https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B07WFDTJFR/

Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w

I've now tried all the chargers and powerbanks that I have, QC3 or PD. All of them cap out at 16W, even though they can deliver more. I got the original one to charge with 30W (at 60% SOC).
The original charger is marked QC3 but they are probably not following the standard.

From my understanding the Snapdragon 732g has Quick Charge 4+ support doesn't it ?

manu1991 said:
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
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Yes, i've noticed the same. Around 27w max. Today i was charging my phone and observing the batt temperature. Kinda obvious, but the hotter the battery gets, the lower charging power it will deliver. Here in Brazil the temp this week is being around 36-42°C, so i put the phone over a bar of artificial ice. As the batt temp went under 35°C, the resultant "charging current" went to around 5500-6000mA. Doing the math, it was possible to arrive at the 27w result. (~4,5V x 6 = 27w).
When the batt temp was near 38~39°C, charging was down to 2000-2800mA (resulting to around 10-12w).
I also found something strange, it wasn't able to show the charging percentage with 2 decimals, as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y8ja08uGEQ

Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??

danieliswhattheycallme said:
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
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maybe this?
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005001516773316.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.221f1870n5uSWW&algo_pvid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88&algo_expid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88-15&btsid=0b0a187916118446027031496e9a4e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

For me GAN 65W chargers (Baseus) are good and universal quick chargers.
I have made a quick test in the thread Chargers and Charging speed

Question Charging Pixel 7 with a 65W Charger

Hey Folks!
Is it okay to charge pixel 7 (It supports only upto 20W charging ig) with a 65W charger? Will this have any ill effects on the pixel's battery life overall the device in any way?

It should be okay. Most likely your 65W charger uses quick charge technologies and will charge your phone at higher voltage instead of high current which is good for your phone (i.e. 1.3A at 11V instead of 3A at 5V). This result in much less heat generation which is the main battery killer.
In any case, your phone will only pull what it needs (and can) from the charge.
I use the 65W of my dead OnePlus phone without issues. The phone only pull a total of 25W anyway.

siffreinsg said:
It should be okay. Most likely your 65W charger uses quick charge technologies and will charge your phone at higher voltage instead of high current which is good for your phone (i.e. 1.3A at 11V instead of 3A at 5V). This result in much less heat generation which is the main battery killer.
In any case, your phone will only pull what it needs (and can) from the charge.
I use the 65W of my dead OnePlus phone without issues. The phone only pull a total of 25W anyway.
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Hi, thanks for the reply. "Output: 5V~20.3V=3A (Max)" is what is written on my charger. Is it okay?

there is a voltage regulator, should be fine...

I've tried m1 macbook air charger with my P7 and phone recognizes it as "charging rapidly" and been charging impressively fast!

Sachin3634 said:
Hey Folks!
Is it okay to charge pixel 7 (It supports only upto 20W charging ig) with a 65W charger? Will this have any ill effects on the pixel's battery life overall the device in any way?
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I think it's safe. I use my 65w mac charger for my P7 and its impressively fast. The phone runs hot while charging tho so I don't use it while it charges. Haven't had or noticed any issues so far.

It doesn'n matter how fast is the charger, the phone also controls the charging speed. If the charger uses the power delivery standard (wich is used by the Pixels) you can use even a 65W one (like Oneplus 8T's warp charger; 45W as PD), charging speed will be limited at 20/23W (7/7Pro). But if you use the 65W Realme charger (wich is also a warp charger but with USB-A output and without PD support), charging speed will be limited to 10-12W.

As long the charger is high quality, you should be fine. As mentioned before, the charger and phone negotiate charge voltage and current.