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Should I upgrade OOS 3.5.3 to 3.5.4?

Brand new OP 3T. Should I do the upgrade? Does it bring in improvements enough to upgrade?
Not planning on upgrading to Nougat anytime soon, will wait for OP to fix all bugs.
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Yes, definitely. And then upgrade to Nougat. Nougat is much better than OOS 3.5 in my experience. It has better battery life, it is smoother and has less bugs.
Also you are putting yourself in a risk when not upgrading to the latest version. Nougat contains important security fixes.

3.5.4 has been having some issues, regarding Bluetooth for example.
Nougat appears to be bug-free based on forum posts.

Someguyfromhell said:
3.5.4 has been having some issues, regarding Bluetooth for example.
Nougat appears to be bug-free based on forum posts.
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I dunno, if you read the Oneplus forums it seems nougat is riddled with bugs. I'm probably gonna wait till the next maintenance release before I update.

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I dunno, if you read the Oneplus forums it seems nougat is riddled with bugs. I'm probably gonna wait till the next maintenance release before I update.
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I'm new to the OnePlus scene, but one thing I learned very quickly is to prefer the XDA Forum to the OnePlus one. Not that one is better that the other, but the opinions and the users here are a lot more informed and experienced.
Regarding Nougat, no problems on mt end. Clean install a couple of hours ago - with the help of Michalko5896

Will our Note 8 get some S9 Features?

Ok we obviously won't get any hardware-dependent features, but we should get the new camera interface / live text translation / split-screen app shortcuts etc, right?

Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Ideally those features should come with the Oreo update of Note 8. Can't see any other logical reason for delaying the update of their current flagship as most of these tweaks require dual camera which s8 or + dont have thus they just released the oreo without that. But, they cannot release the new features on Note 8 before they show it off in S9. Thus the hold up in the update. Releasing a Oreo update for Note 8 without those features and then again releasing one more later with the update is too much work thus they must have skipped the former.

Dejan Sathanas said:
Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.

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Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all

sefrcoko said:
There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all
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I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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Dejan Sathanas said:
I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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You're not the "XDA police" so stop acting like you're superior to the rest of the people posting here. You're in the questions and answers sections, this post and your previous ones aren't helping and are annoying. All you do is post some stupid sarcastic comment to try and make the previous poster feel like an idiot instead of actually helping them.

Aremoji should work because there doesn't seem to be any hardware limitation

After the s9 sales well yes the note 8 will get key features as for anytime soon no forget it

Hopefully we at least see Oreo soon. I'm still salty because Samsung just cut the Samsung Pay reward points in half....

We will see (I hope) many good things when Oreo hits the note 8, I can not say that features from s9+, but hey! They belong to a different series, I bought my note 8 for what it is and the features it offered from day one, so, anything else would be a very welcome bonus, that is why I do not complain or whine about oreo still not coming, I like my device as I bought it, that is why I chose it, that`s it.

i did saw the live launch yesterday and they displayed for a few seconds that the S8/S8+/Note 8 is AR capable
so lets see if Oreo update will allow us to have S9 AR capable camera features

Honestly I doubt it unless 3rd party ports them. They're running out of ideas for new upgrades it's obvious and to port new software features to older phones isn't the best marketing move. That's just my opinion.
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S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note8 .

Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
"S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note 8 ."
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I suppose a root will be necessary ? Thanks.

s9 features? in fact there is doubt if we would have oreo or not

infrasonic13 said:
Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
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your first mistake was expecting fast update from Sammy. they are known for their obscene late updates and if im not wrong, the current price of the Note 8 is already pretty low before S9 even hit.
i was even thinking of rooting but thx to Substratum especially the font addons. again, i maybe wrong, cause i do shot video at 60fps, rooting may very well kill that feature. yeah, there is rooted stock rom but i root for flashing purer rom if theres such word and therein lies the problem, no more 60fps!

Anyone who expects S9 features to be present in the Note 8 rom must be smoking something illegal...
Where in the world is the economic sense to supply these features in their next phone if owners of older phones have it already?
Why would you update your hardware if you are already running most of the improvements?
We'll probably get a slightly beefed up version of Oreo that the S8 and S8+ got and won't see any of the S9 features until 6 months after the S9's and S9+'s relaese. There's no money in it for Samsung...

My view on major updates is mixed. Monthly security updates are in my view mandatory and Samsung continues to offer those down to the S6.
Major OS updates can yield mixed performance and stability results when applied to older hardware. Further, the advances from say Nougat to Oreo- range from significant (Treble (which the 8 series will not get with Android 8.0), better battery life, notifications, etc ) to cosmetic.
Samsung Experience new version tweaks seem even less important. I can live without new emojis for example.
I think the bottom line is that with Oreo and Project Treble, Samsung and others should be able to churn out faster and more reliable updates. The issue pre Oreo was more on Androids limitations and less on Samsung's intransigence. That said, the omission of Treble from the 8 series Oreo updates is troubling. Maybe this will come with 8.1.

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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.
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No Samsung won't be releasing any of the s9 features for note 8 as it would cripple the s9 sales and the note 9.
They only did that with the note 5 when note 7 was recalled as a apology of some sort.
The XDA devs on the other hand are know to to port stuff somewhere down the line but sadly we don't ha e that many devs for note 8 yet as we did for previous notes such as note 3 and 4.
Hopefully more devs will buy note 8 when note 9 is released when price falls.

Oneplus 3/3T to receive Android P

https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-p-is-coming-to-the-oneplus-3-and-3t.879545/
Its official. Android P is coming to Oneplus 3/3T

My god !

Please keep all news/discussion related to OxygenOS 6.0 in this thread only. Any new thread opened regarding ETA/etc will be closed.

Well congo to all Oneplus 3 and 3T users...U all will get Android P update ...Oneplus is saying that They will skip the android 8.1.0 .But will try to Enhance the user Experience.

Awesome news, but I'll keep my doubts unless they actually push it in the betas.
I had been waiting for 8.1 from ages now, and there's no timeline for P, maybe it'll lauch by the end of the year, maybe the end of next year?
The Android P update will be available on the OnePlus 6, OnePlus 5/T and OnePlus 3/3T, in this order.
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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.

abhibnl said:
Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...

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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.

150208 said:
Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...
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Some of us like the stability and some other factors in OOS and won't switch to custom OS (no matter how much they claim to be bug-free or stable experience but there is always something broken), unless OOS is declared EOL by OnePlus.
I am mostly lurking here for custom kernels as the custom kernels offered here are much more battery friendly and smoother compared to stock one WITHOUT breaking any functionality.
That's the kind of place XDA is, no matter how small custom Android mod/solution you are looking for your device, you will always find something relevant to your taste and usability.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.
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Same here! It's exciting but i am just concerned about the wait and possible timeline before that happens. P isn't even released yet, and once it's released the OP3/3T is the last device to receive it from OnePlus. So i am assuming we might not see a P update for 5-6 months. So, i was wondering if they could have worked on 8.1 for 3/3T when they were working with the code for 5/5T.
But at least now we all know we will eventually receive P and we are not abandoned. Kudos to OnePlus to support OP3 with 3 major Android version updated 6>7>8>9.

this is how all manufacturers must support the development of phones

Hope they'll include Treble support as well

All credit to One Plus if they deliver.
A friend of mine bought a Samsung S7 Edge at the same time I bought my OP3. He was smiling initially due to the better screen and camera etc. As time has past, he's only just got Oreo and is suffering from slowing down and awful battery life. My OP3 feels as fast as on day 1 and has only slight battery degradation.
With every day, my smile gets wider. :victory:

This is exactly what I want from a phone when I buy one, long term OS support. Well done Oneplus, my next phone will be also Oneplus.

This is exactly why I made the OP6 purchase. OnePlus has been very good to it's fan base. I know they fell short on a few promises prior to the OP3 however they are most certainly making up for it. I purchased my OP6 in good faith because my OP3 had ***55 UPDATES*** (including betas) and now Android P is coming. I know my 4 year old isn't going to care about the update and isn't going to like daddy taking her phone, wiping it and playing on it for a few days.... But I seriously cannot wait for the OP6 to get Android P and I'm going to be just as excited when it drops for the OP3.
I'm not bragging that I have a OP6, I just want to share my excitement with everyone about Android P on the OP3. I know not everyone has the luxury of buying a new device and I'm happy for everyone who gets to share the Android P experience. I have had a ton of different devices in the past, most with little to no updates including Samsung (no crapple). Hopefully OnePlus will force other manufacturers to follow suit so even those who aren't fans of OnePlus devices can get a better update experience.

Should I update?

Hello there,
I'm still on Android Oreo 8.1 with my Note9, so after the April update, is it worth upgrading to Pie yet?
'Cause up to this point I've been seeing more negative feedback than positive, but with that new update it seems more people are liking it.
Thanks in advance.

It's up to you, there are certainly people who dislike One UI but I'm certain that the majority will prefer it over TW Oreo. Personally I think it's a big upgrade and there is zero chance I'd go back to Oreo, other than AOSP.

Yes you should. Always try to find solutions and tweaks over latest updates. If that doesn't work, then consider downgrade. I think there are more pros than cons considering Android upgrade.
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Question Any opinions or advice on Android 12, One UI 4.0?

As we're seeing numerous bugs have plagued Android 12. The latest update is Samsung's 4th Final Release. What's your experience been and is it confirmed the update locks the bootloader on previously unlocked devices? I'm holding off on updating until some positive feedback is the norm.

Update to A12 with G998B/DS (Exynos) did not result in locking BL. But as BL is upgraded from 3 to 4, downgrade will not be possible. This is not a new phenomenon, this was always the case with BL-upgrades.
In existing thread there is already a lot of feedback/experience on A12 on the FW for exynos S21U. I see no need to also open same discussions in this new thread, unless it is specified to SD-versions.

OnnoJ said:
Update to A12 with G998B/DS (Exynos) did not result in locking BL. But as BL is upgraded from 3 to 4, downgrade will not be possible. This is not a new phenomenon, this was always the case with BL-upgrades.
In existing thread there is already a lot of feedback/experience on A12 on the FW for exynos S21U. I see no need to also open same discussions in this new thread, unless it is specified to SD-versions.
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No posts in this link discusses the A12 Update, changing CSC is the topic, maybe you're confusing it with a different thread. I'm more interested in hearing from user's with a clean, stable update, Snapdragon or Exynos.

The answer is very simple...A12 is a new OS compared A11. This means it comes with its fair share of bugs. I'm sure you'd remember it took at least 6 or 7 iterations of A11 to get the perfect rom. You should expect the same with A12. I'm expecting by March 2022, we should have a fairly stable A12 rom for the S21Ultra.

That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.

varcor said:
That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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Actually, the android version we got in our S21U (A11) was considerable a stable version since the OS was released last September while S21 was out in Feb..so basically we had a more refined version of the OS...A12 is fairly new and hopefully by Feb/ March, the OS will become stable as well...this is the case with any OS..be it Android or iOS

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That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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I personally think A12 is a potato release.
Every OS has misfires. iOS had iOS 7 and iOS 11.
Android had Lollipop (v5) - absolute lemon of an update.
A12 doesn't seem as bad, but it's a Meh update. From what I've seen, it's built around cosmetic changes mainly with some minimal privacy features peppered in to make it sound more creditworthy than it is. Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google. Maybe OneUI 4.1 will bring a more stable version. But who knows?
All I know is that there aren't enough architectural or performance benefits baked into A12 that justify going one whole number up from A11.
That's just my opinion. Others may feel differently. But I tried it and couldn't suffer it on my phone more than 2 weeks. So I "downgraded" to a faster, peppier A11 build after a gruelling fortnight of hoping, praying, charging and resetting the phone till I couldn't stand it anymore!
The S21 Ultra is best experienced on A11, as of today. Updates may change it for the better, but that's a 'maybe' and 'later' in the same sentence and I'd like to see my device at its best behavior today!

"Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google"
Google blew chunks with this puppy. The blame lies mainly with Google but Samsung is culpable as well, no way should they have released it without in depth testing to sort out compatibilities. You'd think they would have figured it out long ago.

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"Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google"
Google blew chunks with this puppy. The blame lies mainly with Google but Samsung is culpable as well, no way should they have released it without in depth testing to sort out compatibilities. You'd think they would have figured it out long ago.
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I think Samsung means well, all things considered. As you say, they could've spent more time fine tuning the A12 releases. But they probably succumbed to the temptation of being one of the first to the table with the new OS. They're getting hammered in almost all markets by the Chinese brands and Apple is eating into their market share too. Release decisions may have been influenced by marketing rather than development. Dunno. Just a guess.
I have to commend their commitment to timely updates. Nobody on the Android camp is as pro-active with with OS updates on as many devices as Sammy is currently. They've come a long way from their TouchWiz days and OneUI is currently my favorite android UX after OxygenOS was neutered by Oppo.
I genuinely think they're trying their best to work with the material they have. The material however (A12) may be the bottleneck here.