staying on 8.1 is it possible to sideload security patches? - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

I intend to stay on 8.1, but I am interested in continued security patches. I am guessing that the patches are far too closely tied with the OS version and that they can't really be separated in that fashion, but I figured I'd ask. Does staying on 8.1 mean that further security updates are not an option at all?
Also, as an aside, if I opt to unlock my bootloader; when the device factory resets as part of that process, do I lose already installed security updates? I am running opws28.3.5/opws28.46-21-16 (that is, 8.1 with the Nov2018 security patch) - if I were to factory reset the phone, would those installed security updates be lost? Basically only curious if I would need to hunt down and reflash this version (assuming OTA updates would not work after an unlock).
Thanks for the help.

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Moto system update , will it cause trouble?

I bought Moto E4 Plus, XT1774, Verizon prepaid version from Target a week ago. Bought an unlock code from eBay to unlock it successfully and it is used on Tmobile, all good.
I also removed several Verizon apps via adb commands. But I read somewhere that if I do a factory reset, these Verizon apps will come back. I have not tried it.
A few days ago I saw a system update notice, says new version: NDRS26.58-33-2 is ready to install. My question is:
1, Should I install it just for the security update benefits? I do not know what's in this update, assuming security update.
2, Is there a way to delete this update that is already downloaded to my phone? There appears to be no option to delete this download and make it go away permanently. I will be nagged by this alert every week I suppose if I cannot disable it.
Thanks in advance for any tips ,
Not sure if it will cause issues with what you did. More than likely it will just install the new version, and re-add the apps. Unless you're rooted I don't think you can delete the update. It will keep asking you to install until you do.
Didn't think the E4 Plus would get any updates. I got the Sprint version, and haven't seen any updates yet.
W00fah said:
Didn't think the E4 Plus would get any updates. I got the Sprint version, and haven't seen any updates yet.
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It will continue to get system/security updates, but not OS upgrades. The system/security updates are based on carriers (unless you have an unlocked version then you'll get them from Moto when ready).
bobbyphoenix said:
It will continue to get system/security updates, but not OS upgrades. The system/security updates are based on carriers (unless you have an unlocked version then you'll get them from Moto when ready).
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With having the sprint version, so far I haven't got any security updates. I have the June 1st security patch. I did flash the unlocked version ROM, so I wonder if I will get an update directly from Moto and not worry about Sprint delaying them.
Another thing I wonder is will Moto release an update soon to take care of krack vulnerability?

Software update and root

My phone is rooted and I have a custom recovery installed, but I'm on stock firmware. When I search for software updates, it doesn't tell me my device has been modified, but just goes on to say I'm on the latest update (August security patch for my region).
My question is: when the September security patch arrives, will I be able to do the update without losing root or any other issues?
If your on the snapdragon note 8 u cant root and never will be able to again
Max_Terrible said:
My phone is rooted and I have a custom recovery installed, but I'm on stock firmware. When I search for software updates, it doesn't tell me my device has been modified, but just goes on to say I'm on the latest update (August security patch for my region).
My question is: when the September security patch arrives, will I be able to do the update without losing root or any other issues?
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Hi mate,
As long as I know:
- you wont be able to use OTA sine you did root. (strange the is not saying your device has been midified. just install root ckecker from goole play to make sure you are root)
- if you flash any originial rom via Odin, your custom kernel will be replaced with Samsung original kernel and you need to root your device again.
I hope it helps you
An update, if anyone happened to be interested. The September update for my carrier is now available. When I went to check for software update in the settings, the device finally told me the system has be modified in unauthorised ways so I can't download the update via OTA. That means I'll have to download it from Sammobile and flash via Odin and lose everything and start fresh.

Not getting OTA security update after flashing stock firmware

I have the XT1900-1 android one version. Before unlocking my bootloader, I had the December 2018 security update. I unlocked my bootloader to get lineageOS, but decided to go back to stock using muchy_cool's guide. But now the security patches are going up to November 2018, and then it says its up to date.
Is there a difference between the stock firmware from the guide and the stock firmware upon buying the phone? I would assume so because if I relock the bootloader again, the warning message on boot changes to "device has loaded a different operating system". But then this is still stock firmware. Why don't the updates get detected?
Paximonium said:
I have the XT1900-1 android one version. Before unlocking my bootloader, I had the December 2018 security update. I unlocked my bootloader to get lineageOS, but decided to go back to stock using muchy_cool's guide. But now the security patches are going up to November 2018, and then it says its up to date.
Is there a difference between the stock firmware from the guide and the stock firmware upon buying the phone? I would assume so because if I relock the bootloader again, the warning message on boot changes to "device has loaded a different operating system". But then this is still stock firmware. Why don't the updates get detected?
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Well it sounds like the OTAs ARE working if you're still on the November update. (My non-Pie phone is still on October update and Android 8.0)
It sounds like you just haven't gotten the December update yet. So did you first get September, October, and November?
As I am aware, even if you got the update it will fail at the moment of installation. There is no official stock recovery available so far that's why even if you lock the bootloader you are using the modified system warning shows at the time of booting.

Best way to upgrade to Jan patch?

So, here's the thing: I upgraded to Pie using the leaked OTA. When the January update became available last month I didn't try to rollback or anything because it had nothing new.
Now the February patch is supposed to have the missing Pie apps (Digital Wellbeing, etc) and it would be really nice to be able to update, but I can't even update to the Jan one since it gives me error when trying to install the patch.
What's the best way to go to the February security patch? Should I try to flash an official firmware, and how?
I'm on 00WW_5_110 and my phone isn't unlocked or anything.
Yay, I did it! I followed this guide from here about unlocking the bootloader but only as far as downgrading to November patch.
After that it installed the official December Pie beta and then the January patch. It doesn't find the February update, but I guess it just isn't available in my region.

Not getting OTA updates :c

Hello, I am writing this because for the past year I have been manually downloading firmware and installing it into my s10 (G973U) I have never gotten an OTA update, and I'm guessing it's because I don't reside in the US nor do I have a US Sim card. My question here is if there is ANY way to fix this so I can get OTA updates. Yes I have tried SmartSwitch, doesn't work. I would greatly appreciate a detailed explanation since I'm new to flashing firmware and stuff. I am currently running the August security patch on Android 11.
...that should be the lastest update

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