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Hi guys, need some clarification please
Have had my M7 for a few weeks now. I unlocked the bootloader and 'perm rooted' using the toolkit. It still has the stock rom on it.
I am trying to remove the root but I have read conflicting information.
1. I have managed to relock the bootloader (shows RELOCKED and TAMPERED) so does this mean I cannot put a stock ROM back on to unroot it? Do I need to unlock it, put on stock ROM and then relock it?
2. I looked at Mike1986's stock ROM but it has issues with installing paid apps. So, is there any other ROM I can use to return to stock?
I think that's why people don't like unlocking because you can't get rid relocked
I don't mind the fact that it says 'relocked' (have unlocked it again) but want to remove root if possible
bob 6600 said:
I don't mind the fact that it says 'relocked' (have unlocked it again) but want to remove root if possible
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You will have superuser on your phone in the settings it will say unroot after that uninstall superuser all done
I guess it's an issue of warranty. If it says 'Relocked', is it still void? I didn't know this to be an issue until I saw it, guess I was spoiled with the Gnex lines.
jaythenut said:
You will have superuser on your phone in the settings it will say unroot after that uninstall superuser all done
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Tried that - pressed unroot, it closed and removed the app but it is still rooted
You sure you will still be unlocked get a root checker app and see
I am also facing the same problem. Tried the uninstall on supersu but after rebooting the phone, supersu is still there.
jaythenut said:
You sure you will still be unlocked get a root checker app and see
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Yep, Tibackup and LP still have root access and SuperSU is back on reboot
Hi guys,
I did a factory reset of my phone a few days back and now I realized I can't find the calculator app and a few other stock apps. Just to check if factory resetting via the phone will cause this?
I didn't unlock the bootloader but I'm not sure if it's been unlocked before either. I bought this phone from a stranger. Anyways to check if it's been unlocked? Will appreciate any help given. Thanks in advance.
Stan.
Stanlehh said:
Hi guys,
I did a factory reset of my phone a few days back and now I realized I can't find the calculator app and a few other stock apps. Just to check if factory resetting via the phone will cause this?
I didn't unlock the bootloader but I'm not sure if it's been unlocked before either. I bought this phone from a stranger. Anyways to check if it's been unlocked? Will appreciate any help given. Thanks in advance.
Stan.
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If you need to check, hold power volume down
If you need apps search general thread there in there somewhere
jaythenut said:
If you need to check, hold power volume down
If you need apps search general thread there in there somewhere
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hi jay, thanks for the help. Yeap I checked and it's tampered and relocked.
Stanlehh said:
hi jay, thanks for the help. Yeap I checked and it's tampered and relocked.
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Yeah sometimes when you unroot you will lose some apps so best thing is to search theme and apps thread the missing apps are on there somewhere
jaythenut said:
Yeah sometimes when you unroot you will lose some apps so best thing is to search theme and apps thread the missing apps are on there somewhere
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Initially I didn't want to unlock the bootloader for fear of warranty issues, since it's been unlocked before, I'll probably start exploring custom roms, heard they're good but will lose the ability for stock it's updates.
Guess the person relocked, unroot and flashed back stock firmware?
Stan.
Stanlehh said:
Initially I didn't want to unlock the bootloader for fear of warranty issues, since it's been unlocked before, I'll probably start exploring custom roms, heard they're good but will lose the ability for stock it's updates.
Guess the person relocked, unroot and flashed back stock firmware?
Stan.
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Yeah best thing first is see if your rooted get root checker from Google play if you are just flash a rom, roms are more up to date anyway there on 4.2.2 now
jaythenut said:
Yeah best thing first is see if your rooted get root checker from Google play if you are just flash a rom, roms are more up to date anyway there on 4.2.2 now
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Just did the check, guess it's not rooted, app told me it doesn't have proper root access.
Stanlehh said:
Just did the check, guess it's not rooted, app told me it doesn't have proper root access.
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Ok if you are lucky download super user from Google play and that might give you root, hopefully the bloke didn't unroot properly
jaythenut said:
Ok if you are lucky download super user from Google play and that might give you root, hopefully the bloke didn't unroot properly
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Is it a troublesome process to reroot it?
Just follow this, you don't need to do the first step just install cwm then permanent root that should do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
jaythenut said:
Just follow this, you don't need to do the first step just install cwm then permanent root that should do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
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If I do perm root, can I unroot back in future?
Stanlehh said:
If I do perm root, can I unroot back in future?
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Yes, but it will always say unlocked
In super user it says unroot just press that, and it's done i think lol
jaythenut said:
Yes, but it will always say unlocked
In super user it says unroot just press that, and it's done i think lol
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Great, thanks for the help jay, I'll go try it later. Much appreciated.
Stan.
Stanlehh said:
Great, thanks for the help jay, I'll go try it later. Much appreciated.
Stan.
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Good luck with it don't forget to hit the thanks button
Hi guys
Can i get root access without unlocking bootloader?
Thanks
cobrax2 said:
Hi guys
Can i get root access without unlocking bootloader?
Thanks
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No. The only way to root ATM is to unlock your bootloader
is someone working on an solution to unlock without HTCDev?
thats too bad
thanks for the reply
i dont think there are many developers, if any for this phone
HandyBesitzer said:
is someone working on an solution to unlock without HTCDev?
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Why cant you root with HTCDev?
im not sure that the warranty will still be okay if we unlock it
plus the phone is from orange and it might not work
cobrax2 said:
im not sure that the warranty will still be okay if we unlock it
plus the phone is from orange and it might not work
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you will loose guarantee either way as the bootloader will show as tempered. More chance to keep it valid if you use the tools HTC provided.
Orange should work just fine. Just try...
On another note i sent 2 phones for repair to HTC "unlocked" and they never charge me for the repair.
yes, i was thinking of only gettin root and not unlocking bootloader
kativiti said:
you will loose guarantee either way as the bootloader will show as tempered. More chance to keep it valid if you use the tools HTC provided.
Orange should work just fine. Just try...
On another note i sent 2 phones for repair to HTC "unlocked" and they never charge me for the repair.
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You can undo the root and unlocked bootloader, before you send it to HTC. If you cannot undo because you have too big problems with the phone (frozzen phone,...) they cannot controll it either.
cobrax2 said:
yes, i was thinking of only gettin root and not unlocking bootloader
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not possible as far as i know.
I just need root permissions for some apps. But there is no way to get root with looked bootloader
HandyBesitzer said:
You can undo the root and unlocked bootloader, before you send it to HTC.
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yes you can undo and get back to full stock but hboot will show "Relocked" so they will know you mess with it.
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
dalegg said:
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
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Your question is not stupid. Yes, you can unlock your boot loader and OTA updates will still install.
you will lose root after OTA
dalegg said:
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
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OTA`s can only be installed on a non-modified system, rooting will prevent the OTA to be installed as the system is modified. An unlocked bootloader is no problem. Once you unlocked the BL you can flash the image or OTA yourself in recovery/sideload.
gee2012 said:
OTA`s can only be installed on a non-modified system, rooting will prevent the OTA to be installed as the system is modified. An unlocked bootloader is no problem. Once you unlocked the BL you can flash the image or OTA yourself in recovery/sideload.
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root will still get ota...
jedi5diah said:
root will still get ota...
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Yup, but it can not be installed.
jedi5diah said:
root will still get ota...
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It won't install. Rooting changes system files. It will fail the check and abort the ota
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
dalegg said:
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
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Unlocking bootloader is not a problem. Locked bootloader is like a locked door of a house and consider root as the person who is supposed to enter to the house but if you open the door and the person doesn't enter into the house then it's not a problem But if there is root, the update will be downloaded but the root will prevent it to get installed Hope it clears your doubts
jedi5diah said:
root will still get ota...
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That *used* to be the case before Lollipop.
How does ota work? Is the update something my telephone provider sends? If so if you are using an unlocked phone on a non provider network what happens
Currently UK vodafone N6 but it wasn't locked so I'm using a three network sim.
leekeene said:
How does ota work? Is the update something my telephone provider sends? If so if you are using an unlocked phone on a non provider network what happens
Currently UK vodafone N6 but it wasn't locked so I'm using a three network sim.
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With a Nexus device or GPE device, all OTA's come direct from Google. With other phones, it's up to the OEM and cell service provider.
Hello! I just got a nexus 6 a few days ago, and I love this phone! However, I just read on here that relocking your bootloader is a bad idea? Well, I rooted my device and installed PAC ROM on it, then reflashed a stock image back to my nexus and relocked the bootloader, my phone is fine, no bootloops and no issues, does this pose a problem with OTA updates? Thanks! I really need to know because i would NOT wanna brick this thing! Thanks!
H4X0R46 said:
Hello! I just got a nexus 6 a few days ago, and I love this phone! However, I just read on here that relocking your bootloader is a bad idea? Well, I rooted my device and installed PAC ROM on it, then reflashed a stock image back to my nexus and relocked the bootloader, my phone is fine, no bootloops and no issues, does this pose a problem with OTA updates? Thanks! I really need to know because i would NOT wanna brick this thing! Thanks!
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Thing is, when your bootloader is unlocked, the device is almost unbrickable. Also, you can be unlocked, 100% stock and still get OTA's if you want. If you have a locked bootloader, mess something up and end up in a bootloop, and can't boot to android, you're stuck.
Are you saying that OTA updates work even if your boot loader is open? Does it just check your system files and recovery? In theory, if I did an OTA update right now, and my bootloader was unlocked, it would install without problems?
H4X0R46 said:
Are you saying that OTA updates work even if your boot loader is open? Does it just check your system files and recovery? In theory, if I did an OTA update right now, and my bootloader was unlocked, it would install without problems?
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Yes to all your questions.
Unlock it, its free insurance and wont change or harm a thing.
you can lock/unlock your bootloader anytime you want actually, you just have to make sure that you relock your bootloader sfter making sure that you can boot properly first. because if you can't boot, and your bootloader is locked, then you are just as good as bricked. because now, to unlock your bootloader, you have to enable allow oem unlock. and if you cant boot, you cant do that.
simms22 said:
you can lock/unlock your bootloader anytime you want actually, you just have to make sure that you relock your bootloader sfter making sure that you can boot properly first. because if you can't boot, and your bootloader is locked, then you are just as good as bricked. because now, to unlock your bootloader, you have to enable allow oem unlock. and if you cant boot, you cant do that.
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That said, since 5.1.1, doesn't "allow oem unlock" remain ticked / selected after a reboot now? If so, it's fine to relock it, even if it doesn't boot if that is ticked.
danarama said:
That said, since 5.1.1, doesn't "allow oem unlock" remain ticked / selected after a reboot now? If so, it's fine to relock it, even if it doesn't boot if that is ticked.
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Yes, but in the case of an "accidentally" wiped OS, well, you know.
Alright guys, so I won't ever run into a problem with an OTA update with the bootloader unlocked? Thanks! You guys are awesome!
Sent from my Nexus 6
Evolution_Tech said:
Yes, but in the case of an "accidentally" wiped OS, well, you know.
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Well it shouldn't matter. When you tick that box, it writes the change to mmcblk0p18, which is OS independent. Now that booting the rom doesn't revert that partition, if it is ticked once, it shouldn't matter if there is an OS at all.
H4X0R46 said:
Alright guys, so I won't ever run into a problem with an OTA update with the bootloader unlocked? Thanks! You guys are awesome!
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Correct. Bootloader status has no effect on OTA. Updated script checks boot.img (kernel), system.img, and recovery. All have to be unmodified. No root, no unencrypted kernel, stock 100%.
cam30era said:
Correct. Bootloader status has no effect on OTA. Updated script checks boot.img (kernel), system.img, and recovery. All have to be unmodified. No root, no unencrypted kernel, stock 100%.
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Scripts don't check recovery. It's just the OTA zip won't work without it.
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here you go!
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Correct. Just taking this shortcut.
Great! Thanks guys! Appreciate all the help and support on this! I would HATE to brick a $700 device! Haha
Sent from my Nexus 6
Real quick easy noob question, no point in making a thread just for this so I'm asking here, is the Nexus 6 CPU an arm or arm64?
H4X0R46 said:
Real quick easy noob question, no point in making a thread just for this so I'm asking here, is the Nexus 6 CPU an arm or arm64?
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N6 is ARM. Arm 64 is for 64 bit devices such as the N9.
Clarification question
A question for clarification, as long as the bootloader is already unlocked, the "OEM Unlocking - Allow the bootloader to be unlocked" setting under Developer options doesn't affect anything?
alryder said:
A question for clarification, as long as the bootloader is already unlocked, the "OEM Unlocking - Allow the bootloader to be unlocked" setting under Developer options doesn't affect anything?
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Correct.