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XT1060 on Verizon; right now on one of the later CM nightlies but I know I tried several other ROMs in the past (probably all CM based) to no avail. MMS messages sometimes send/download immediately, most of the time they take at least 30 seconds to send and received ones fail download several times. This happens regardless of mobile data settings, WiFi, 3G, LTE, Hangouts, Messaging, etc. I've yet to correlate anything with the success or failure.
I've been digging through logs and the CM sources and the issue seems to stem from initiating the mobile data connection for MMS. At this point I'm deep in the telephony stack and well out of familiar territory. I'm hoping that someone can verify that they're seeing the same issues on Verizon with non-stock ROMs and also hoping that there's someone out there more familiar with the whole telephony stack that can perhaps guide my search in more productive direction. APN settings look correct and the logs confirm that once a data connection is made the right APN is used and messages get sent/received. I've found some "unrecognized command" type errors in RIL logs during the connection setup phase, but haven't sorted out what they are yet.
I can't be of any help to you with the programming stuff but I can say I have two DE cm12 exhibiting the same bugs.
I also get a soft reboot, where I lose 4g and I have a '!' next to the signal. I don't know if they're connected.
The MMS taking forever is annoying though. I've been considering going clean to a newer nightly than I'm on now and see if it's any better.
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I had the same issue on a 1060 DE running Nexus Experience (CM based) and what worked for me was to disable the stock mms application and I believe MMSService. Then installed textsecure and all worked well. I can't remember 100% if I kept MMSService disabled or not as I'm back on stock Lollipop, but some combination of the above will definitely work.
TextSecure doesn't appear to use the same channels to send SMS/MMS as the stock app. As I understand, it's more of a mobile data thing than a true SMS/MMS app, which would explain why it worked for you. I'm 100% sure the issue does not lie in the stock CM MMS app, I've traced it well outside of there and the app appears to function just fine once it gets the notification that a MMS capable network is available.
I also sometimes run in to the service indicator giving a network that is strings of numbers like "00000" or "31000". I don't know if both of these are symptoms of the same problem or something completely different.
Apologies for the mis-categorization of the thread, thanks for moving it.
It would appear that APNs do affect this. CM's apns-conf has a "Verizon" "internet" APN that's listed for MMS. Not sure what it's there for and the stock 5.1 apns-conf does not have it. Logs showed RILJ messages of SETUP_DATA_CALL attempting to access this "internet" APN instead of the "VZWAPP" APN that stock would try for. Running the stock 5.1 apns-conf and then also manually removing the "Verizon" APN in settings has allowed first connection MMS messages to download and send fine i.e. ones that result in a SETUP_DATA_CALL RILJ message. It appears that if the MMS connection is already open, however, that it fails until timeout on a RILJ message of RIL_REQUEST_ALLOW_DATA. After 5 retries, we get another SETUP_DATA_CALL message and everything works fine. I am currently running a build of CM with Motorola's 5.1 proprietary binaries though, I'll have to verify that the older ones shipped with CM do not function differently.
This may be related and not a device-specific issue but either a google play services or back-end issue. Reported here because of the mention of these appearing to be data services, not text services having issues.
VZW 1060 DE unlocked but not rooted and took the OTA to 5.1. Did not feel like I experienced any of these issues prior to the update
Now, in addition to tethering problems, having hangouts issues similar to the OP description... messages sometimes take forever to show that they sent, or to come in. I sent a photo 3 times and some text but never could tell from hangouts that I had sent them or got a reply until after I rebooted the phone.
Asus Zenpad: Same issue for hangouts, some hangouts NEVER get some messages - this is a wifi only device. On lollipop
friend's new iPhone: Same issue as OP for hangouts
friend's Droid Turbo: Same issue as OP for hangouts. Reports she leaves the hangout and comes back in to see updates
Edit: Found the LG-G3 is reporting the same issues after updating to Lollipop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/lollipop-tethering-t3071188
This is 100% a RIL issue with this phone's chipset and vendor binaries. It may carry over to other hardware but it is certainly not a Google issue.
It appears that the libril binaries supplied with Moto's 4.4.4/5.1 do not support RIL_REQUEST_ALLOW_DATA. It looks like they support an older method, perhaps involving RIL_REQUEST_SET_DATA_SUBSCRIPTION.
FYI, i recently fastbooted back to stock 5.1, and MMS working quickly for me.
I'm able to get fully functioning normal MMS on CM 12.1 by hacking the DdsScheduler a bit. If I force it to transition to Idle after MMS releases its networkrequest, everything works fine. I'm confident this is a hacky way of doing it, but it at least narrows the issue down further.
As a side note, the whole DdsScheduler portion was added to telephony in 12. CM 11 appears to work fine, as do all stock versions, of course. As far as I can tell, this bug should affect Galaxy S3 users (probably among others?) as well. Can anyone weigh in on that? I don't have access to one with CM for testing. Anything running a Qualcomm RIL with a version less than 10 should be affected?
"READ Tmobile acknowledge Native message app is corrupt. Don't update Says TMobile
It seems that if you read online on T-Mobile forms in other areas people are not receiving all their text messages if not 10 to 50% of them are missing people are finding this out by logging into T-Mobile digits and same messages they never got through the native messaging app after the 8.0 update.
I noticed this when I did not receive messages for a good while until I put my SIM card into a Galaxy S8 and 20 to 30 messages popped up that were pre conversation topics from the past days before after talking to T-Mobile and digits support team they are being told to replace the device one time and Advising customer to keep the Nougat software until a fix ia found or until further notice this issue seems to be tied to the Z2 only and Oreo update just wanted to throw this out there as a pre warning the alternative solution the tech told me is that you can use a different messaging app but who's to say you'll ever know if you're not getting all your messages .
It evidently seems to be affecting incoming messages alternatively at your own choice maybe Nougat could be flashed back "Not sure" but this is a real life issue for this phone . If you want to be certain and surprised login to T-Mobile digits activate it and see what messages that you have not got
Hope this information is appreciated.
Um check your wifi calling settings
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It seems that if you read online on T-Mobile forms in other areas people are not receiving all their text messages if not 10 to 50% of them are missing people are finding this out by logging into T-Mobile digits and same messages they never got through the native messaging app after the 8.0 update.
I noticed this when I did not receive messages for a good while until I put my SIM card into a Galaxy S8 and 20 to 30 messages popped up that were pre conversation topics from the past days before after talking to T-Mobile and digits support team they are being told to replace the device one time and Advising customer to keep the Nougat software until a fix ia found or until further notice this issue seems to be tied to the Z2 only and Oreo update just wanted to throw this out there as a pre warning the alternative solution the tech told me is that you can use a different messaging app but who's to say you'll ever know if you're not getting all your messages .
It evidently seems to be affecting incoming messages alternatively at your own choice maybe Nougat could be flashed back "Not sure" but this is a real life issue for this phone . If you want to be certain and surprised login to T-Mobile digits activate it and see what messages that you have not got
Hope this information is appreciated.
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Um check your wifi calling settings
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What about it ? Wether on wifi calling or not this is a message issue acknowledged and very pronounced In many ways . It's simple to see with a few trial and error tests regardless of wifi
Or LTE Data
Seeing all your messages show up on TMO digits comparing them to messages you've got or never got .....putting a SIM card in a different phone and seeing multiple messages pop up that have still been trying to push through that are tied to specific time line conversations. TMobile literally already acknowledges this it's just nobody is realizing it because they're not expecting messages that they're actually missing from people.
Feel free to test it if you would like have multiple people text you wait for it to come through not saying it affects everybody T-Mobile did tell me that they already have a ticket out for it and it's software related to this particular phone.
On top of the SMS of all things is one of the most critical uses of a phone .
Just trying to shed light on a rising issue that most would never be aware of .
Because all Android phones ship with settings set to wifi preferred wich leads to dropped calls and unsent messages after setting up a home wifi. And if you have no sim installed your obviously using wifi calling wich is most definitely not as dependable as volte.
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Because all Android phones ship with settings set to wifi preferred wich leads to dropped calls and unsent messages after setting up a home wifi. And if you have no sim installed your obviously using wifi calling wich is most definitely not as dependable as volte.
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I'll look into that....but if your not on wifi calling "connected" to a wifi network you would still be using volte right ? This is happening to people conversating anywhere Mobily in a vehicle not on wifi. Messages for instance with my brother whereas I never got a reply in which I would have came through after I put my SIM in my s8.
People are seeing ungotten messages in TMobile digits.
I don't really care i was just looking out for the community here with a potential problem hindering, and T-Mobile tech support made acknowledgement about it . I highly doubt a community across United States all at once is screwing up by keeping WiFi preferred on.
You're only going to be using WiFi calling if you're connected to an actual at work under that settings menu otherwise you would be using cellular by default just like it says to choose below that
You're only going to use Wifi calling if you're connected to a WiFi network otherwise you're going to use cellular default which is the same as being on cellular by default correct me if I'm wrong
Can you post a link to the discussion? I can't find anything after searching for a while.
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Z2 force sms MMS broken discussion link
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/143284
Multiple replied posts from z2 users
How this has not made it to xda is beyond me but it is real situation
It's really not a good feeling to really not know all the messages you should be getting that you're not especially the ones that you're not expecting the scenario is playing out just like it shows in these support forums and with myself.
It's like not "Some messages are blocked in a limbo status never reaching the target device
Like myself you could stick a SIM card potentially in another phone and see stuff that pops up that was related to conversations long ago that you never got replied too.
I haven't had much of a problem with T-Mobile to T-Mobile network SMS but many other people I know that use other carriers I never got replied to until I stuck my SIM card into a different phone of mine.
It's a janky situation and if TMobile is already acknowledge this and told to replace phones one time then evidently the issue has gotten out to the people that needs to I just don't know how nobody here on XDA knows about this .
I have tried multiple text apps and nothing seems to be different I even thought about editing access point but usually that only solves MMS problems
This issue was already addressed with a fix to boot by xda. I had the issue my self. With no issues after I updated to oreo.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/how-to/t-mobile-how-to-3rd-party-sms-apps-root-t3661703
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This issue was already addressed with a fix to boot by xda. I had the issue my self. With no issues after I updated to oreo.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/how-to/t-mobile-how-to-3rd-party-sms-apps-root-t3661703
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I tried this method and it did not work, after the Oreo update I tried again but kept having issues. Decided to Force stop the CPS app and install the Google Carrier services app and this worked. Don't remember where I heard/read about Google carrier services. BTW using Googles messages app now and seem to be receiving all messages.
I discovered this a few weeks ago then installed google messages and everything works now
Missing messages FIXED
androidddaaron said:
It seems that if you read online on T-Mobile forms in other areas people are not receiving all their text messages if not 10 to 50% of them are missing people are finding this out by logging into T-Mobile digits and same messages they never got through the native messaging app after the 8.0 update.
I noticed this when I did not receive messages for a good while until I put my SIM card into a Galaxy S8 and 20 to 30 messages popped up that were pre conversation topics from the past days before after talking to T-Mobile and digits support team they are being told to replace the device one time and Advising customer to keep the Nougat software until a fix ia found or until further notice this issue seems to be tied to the Z2 only and Oreo update just wanted to throw this out there as a pre warning the alternative solution the tech told me is that you can use a different messaging app but who's to say you'll ever know if you're not getting all your messages .
It evidently seems to be affecting incoming messages alternatively at your own choice maybe Nougat could be flashed back "Not sure" but this is a real life issue for this phone . If you want to be certain and surprised login to T-Mobile digits activate it and see what messages that you have not got
Hope this information is appreciated.
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I have already experienced this issue. It's NOT related to wifi calling at all. I tested it with wifi calling on and with it off, same results.
What worked for me to FIX it was to clear storage and clear cache on the "native" app. You won't lose messages already on the device but you should backup with Carbonite sms first to be safe. Once I wiped storage and cache for the app I started receiving messages again normally.
I found out I was missing messages by installing digits. It's all working now but I'm keeping digits temporarily just to be safe.
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I have already experienced this issue. It's NOT related to wifi calling at all. I tested it with wifi calling on and with it off, same results.
What worked for me to FIX it was to clear storage and clear cache on the "native" app. You won't lose messages already on the device but you should backup with Carbonite sms first to be safe. Once I wiped storage and cache for the app I started receiving messages again normally.
I found out I was missing messages by installing digits. It's all working now but I'm keeping digits temporarily just to be safe.
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Wait so your saying this is a fix wether on Oreo or nougat and digits is the whole reason why .
And the native message app just need to clear cache and data in settings app
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I deleted and deactivated digits completely. After I had it completely removed from my account, I rebooted and changed to Android Messages and everything has been fine since October.
Are the issues with this phone sorted yet? I was looking to purchase the T-Mobile variant of this phone but have read about issues such as not receiving texts (huge problem), VoLTE not working with Galaxy S7s, and WiFi connection issues. If they are not fixed, can they at least be avoided by refusing the Oreo update? I would like to avoid rooting my phone just to fix a defect and would only consider using a 3rd party messaging app if it fixed the problem without introducing other problems.
I have my phone choices currently narrow down to the Z2 Force, LG G6, and Galaxy S7 (all are currently in the $400 range). I was leaning towards the Z2 since it's the most powerful, but the issues I'm reading about seem quite severe.
After a little more research I see 2 patches were released for the Z2F after the Android 8.0 update.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-35970
I found a Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/Moto_Z/comments/7zxcpo/tmobile_moto_z2_force_ocx271_update/) where some people mentioned it fixed the SMS notification and Galaxy S7 VoLTE issues. I didn't see anything anything discussing the Bluetooth/WiFi issues or more importanly, the SMS not being received issue (the topic of this thread). Can anyone comment if those were fixed?
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Are the issues with this phone sorted yet? I was looking to purchase the T-Mobile variant of this phone but have read about issues such as not receiving texts (huge problem), VoLTE not working with Galaxy S7s, and WiFi connection issues. If they are not fixed, can they at least be avoided by refusing the Oreo update? I would like to avoid rooting my phone just to fix a defect and would only consider using a 3rd party messaging app if it fixed the problem without introducing other problems.
I have my phone choices currently narrow down to the Z2 Force, LG G6, and Galaxy S7 (all are currently in the $400 range). I was leaning towards the Z2 since it's the most powerful, but the issues I'm reading about seem quite severe.
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The latest 2 Oreo updates have fixed those problems, and they didn't affect everyone.
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I made the switch to oreo several weeks ago and have not been able to get any MMS messages to automatically turn the data on.
I've tried quite a few messaging apps to make sure it wasnt that and have tried several different APN settings for Cricket.
At this point it just seems like I may have missed something when flashing over to Oreo (N95OU version).
Has anyone else experienced this and found a fix for it?
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I made the switch to oreo several weeks ago and have not been able to get any MMS messages to automatically turn the data on.
I've tried quite a few messaging apps to make sure it wasnt that and have tried several different APN settings for Cricket.
At this point it just seems like I may have missed something when flashing over to Oreo (N95OU version).
Has anyone else experienced this and found a fix for it?
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What build are you on? Crc2 is the newest.
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what build are you on? Crc2 is the newest.
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I have the same problem on Verizon. I can't send MMS on stock messenger app. Why do we have to suffer every time a software update happens? I have a Note 8!
Only1mrvain said:
I have the same problem on Verizon. I can't send MMS on stock messenger app. Why do we have to suffer every time a software update happens? I have a Note 8!
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No suffering here. Awesome battery life. Everything works just like it should. Are you on the official crc2 oreo release? I'm actually using crc5 but even on crc2 I didn't have that problem.
Only1mrvain said:
I have the same problem on Verizon. I can't send MMS on stock messenger app. Why do we have to suffer every time a software update happens? I have a Note 8!
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I'm literally having the same problem. Driving me nuts
Got to your settimgs and reset your iternet settingsa amd mobile alsonit wil do it also after that it will work you will get the mms
any work around with not able to send sms? I ahve the note 8 N9500. before I can send sms with att and tmobile sims as I have dual sim. after I rooted I can't send anymore sms. apns are all correct, wipe the phone even to factory settings. then Even tried the revert to original firmware not working yet. anybody that had the same problem with sending sms after update?
Bump.. anyone found a solution to this? I updated to Oreo on Verizon note 8, and MMS stopped auto retrieving MMS. Now everytime there's a group msg, I have to turn off WiFi and click the download button to download msgs, timestamp will be messed up tho.
Please anyone know how to fix this, it's annoying. I want to go back to nought if I cantget this to work.
Couldn't download mms on my note8 after software "upgrade". Took my note 8 to the Samsung guru at Best Buy. She got rid of downloaded messaging apps, told me I should be using the original firmware. Set it up. Turned on data and it worked. I began downloading mms immediately.
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Couldn't download mms on my note8 after software "upgrade". Took my note 8 to the Samsung guru at Best Buy. She got rid of downloaded messaging apps, told me I should be using the original firmware. Set it up. Turned on data and it worked. I began downloading mms immediately.
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MMS works when data is turned on. It's just that when data is turned off or when both WiFi and data is turned on, MMS does not auto retrieve. It used to auto retrieve on 7.1.1 when data is turned off or both WiFi and data turned on. When data turned off, MMS used to auto turned on data temporarily to download the MMS, but not anymore. I really want to fix this. It's very annoying. Now, It will just tell me there's a MMS message to download
Hi,
I just got a Mi 9 today and everything works fine (i can receive phone calls normally..) but i noticed that there was a problem with sms messages : i only receive some messages (not all of them) and the ones that arrive are delayed.
And i don't receive apps confirmation messages at all (Xiaomi account, WhatsApp, WeChat...)
I checked the SMSC and it was correct.
I hope someone can help me with this problem.
Thanks
Amine
There are a couple settings you might want to change. If you enable Developer Options there is a Toggle called mobile data always active. Some phones (like those from Google) have this enabled by default. If it's not already enabled I click that setting on. I have never noticed additional data usage on any phone as a result of that being enabled--it just allows for faster network switching.
In WiFi settings you probably have an option to stay connected to WiFi while your phone is asleep. I always enable that as well.
You are probably getting delayed SMS and notifications because the data connection is off when your phone is sleeping--and if your phone is connected to WiFi but your carrier doesn't support WiFi texts then you won't receive texts until your data connection is reestablished.
I would like to bump this subject.
I just purchased a Mi 9 and I have the very same problem as the OP.
Following jhs39 indications didn't help.
Appreciate all the help
jhs39 said:
There are a couple settings you might want to change. If you enable Developer Options there is a Toggle called mobile data always active. Some phones (like those from Google) have this enabled by default. If it's not already enabled I click that setting on. I have never noticed additional data usage on any phone as a result of that being enabled--it just allows for faster network switching.
In WiFi settings you probably have an option to stay connected to WiFi while your phone is asleep. I always enable that as well.
You are probably getting delayed SMS and notifications because the data connection is off when your phone is sleeping--and if your phone is connected to WiFi but your carrier doesn't support WiFi texts then you won't receive texts until your data connection is reestablished.
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SMS does not arrive through DATA connection, as far as I know. It uses plain old GPRS signal. Data is for internet.
Same for me. don't receive apps confirmation messages at all (Xiaomi account, WhatsApp, Facebook. etc
Amiiine said:
Hi,
I just got a Mi 9 today and everything works fine (i can receive phone calls normally..) but i noticed that there was a problem with sms messages : i only receive some messages (not all of them) and the ones that arrive are delayed.
And i don't receive apps confirmation messages at all (Xiaomi account, WhatsApp, WeChat...)
I checked the SMSC and it was correct.
I hope someone can help me with this problem.
Thanks
Amine
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What about APN's?!
Did You check this?!
There must be two APN's, one for data connection (internet) and other of MMS messages only.
Amiiine said:
Hi,
I just got a Mi 9 today and everything works fine (i can receive phone calls normally..) but i noticed that there was a problem with sms messages : i only receive some messages (not all of them) and the ones that arrive are delayed.
And i don't receive apps confirmation messages at all (Xiaomi account, WhatsApp, WeChat...)
I checked the SMSC and it was correct.
I hope someone can help me with this problem.
Thanks
Amine
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I´m having the exact same issue with the Xiaomi Mi 9 T Pro, I can receive SMS from another numbers, but I'm not able to receive sms from big companies (Xiaomi account, Whastapp, Steam) I know is the phone because I put my SIM card on my old phone, and all the company SMS where going through just fine!
Does someone knows the solution from this? I really wanted to use Xiaomi but is getting really difficult and really frustrating at the same time :/
I have a similar problem.
I don't use a Xiaomi's account, so I haven't noticed that problem.
My problem is with Google verification sms.
I don't receive them, or they come much later than they used to on my old phone.
Regards
Gudni
someone managed to solve? My cell phone was working normally and a week ago stopped receiving sms from applications and companies. Please if anyone knows help
I have the same problem since last Thursday... but in my case, it only happens when the SMS is sent from a foreign Phone number; if somebody from my country sends me a SMS it works fine (and, of course, I am able to send SMSs to my country and foreign countries without any problem).
I had the same problem... but i was connected to my VPN.. once i disconnected from the VPN.. everything worked fine
as for me i get sms but NOT MMS. i have defiantly tried a ton of apns and no MMS
Xiaomi is becoming a headache
I have realized that Xiaomi seems to be a good smartphone (mine is a Redmi Note 8 Pro), but at the end it is a very problematic one. Mine never connects to 4G LTE and my SIM card is a valid one which works fine with other phones (Samsung S8, Samsung J7 Neo, Moto G5 plus and Huawei Y7). I have done everything possible that I have read in the internet and I don't get to fix it. I'm about to give up ...
I just got my A71. Currently using it here in the US on Tmobile.
For some reason, on Google Messages app, messages are stuck in sending when I am connected to wifi. If I disconnect, the messages will go through. I reconnect the wifi and sometimes the first 1-2 messages go through but then it gets hung up again. Can anyone else try and confirm if this is an issue as well?
I tried resetting network settings.
Using the native Samsung message app doesnt seem to have issue.
I even thought it had something to do with transfer my old data from my Android 9 phone to this A71 that is on Androidn 10, so I just factory reset the A71 and just installed the google messages app, still the same issue.