Questions about the Droid 4 - Motorola Droid 4

Hey all, I'm looking around for a few phones with slide-out keyboards to see which I prefer as a cheap and easy portable emulation machine as opposed to my Nvidia Shield.
The Droid 4 looks pretty attractive to me, especially with the layout of the keyboard making removing keys and leaving just ones mapped to buttons in emulators more ergonomic.
I am wondering what the battery life is like when it comes to screen on time for NES, SNES, Genesis, Game Gear, GBA, etc. Along with any information about any issues I may come across with using one regularly.
Also, how is the display quality? I was leaning more towards one of the low-end Samsung devices with a super amoled display, but did miss out on owning a couple of the Droids in their prime and figured now would be better than never, I do prefer a more hefty feeling phone over something that's slick plastic and very oval-y.

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[Q] Thinking of buying this phone.Need your opinions.

So, as the title says, I'm thinking of buying this phone. What's the pros and cons? Is the screen too big? Does it fit in your pocket? Is it practical?
Really need your opinions, Note owners!
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Its been answered a million times but yeah when you first get it it will seem to big buts its not..
it fits perfect in all of my pants pockets with no issues..unless you wear skinny jeans or something i dont see why it wouldnt..
i mean you wont be doing things one handed like a smaller phone but this is the best phone i have ever owned.
Same here! This is by far the best phone i've owned and i have had iPhone 3gs, iPhone 4 and Lumia 800. It feels really big when you take it to your hand first time. But like said, it's still very portable and after a while you'll notice that: "damn, how small those 3,5" screens are". I can't imagine of using a phone with smaller screen than this anymore. I just don't want to. ha ha!
The screen is fantastic!! Reading, typing, watching videos, playing games...etc. is just wonderful. I'll say, go for it!
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The screen is definitely awesome and you will not want to go back to anything smaller. I have had an iphone 3GS, Atrix, and Blackberry and the Note is definitely my favorite. It fits in my pockets as well. I typically keep it in my back pocket, but that's just me. Like MrDSL said, unless you have skinny jeans it should be fine. It is definitely practical in my opinion.
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You might get people asking you "Is that a phone or a tablet?" or other crazy questions. I just smile.
The phone is definitely big, but... the screen simply destroys any other phone. I bought the Note several monts after my ASUS Transformer and I can say if you have good eyesight it can easily replace a 10.1" tablet for web surfing and movies.
Another advantage is the size of the on-screen keyboard. In landscape mode is so big I found mor confortable to use Thumb Keyboard for a split one.
Is a great phone... a little big maybe but its thinness makes it very pocketable.
just do it
Don't even think about cons, there aren't any!
Buy it and you will change the way you see smartphones. I have it 6 months and even now i would choose it over HTC One X. The screen is beautiful, the s-pen is perfect and the power is limitless ;-)
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too big for one hand use. too awesome for everything else.
Best battery backup too.
I've owned about 60 phones through the years including a couple of iPhones, and the Note is the most badass gadget i've ever owned. It's the device i dreamt about 10 years ago.
It may look too big at first, but after a day or two, not so. I'm never getting anything with a smaller screen after this.
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Best phone I have ever owned. My last phone was the Desire HD and I actually don't notice the Note in my pockets as much as that phone. Its fast, light, great screen, good connection with 3g, wifi, bluetooth etc. Highly recommended.
Agree with all the comments cept I would add that it even fits in my skinny jeans pockets. Personally can't even imagine myself with an s3...
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Personally can't even imagine myself with an s3...
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And why is that?
- It looks like something girls without tampons would use for a couple of days a month (pads)
- The specs doesn't impress me. I didn't expect much, but still.. Not worth it.

USB keyboard for Nexus 7

Since we've only had our tablets for a short time, I might be a little premature in asking but has anyone used any of these USB keyboards with the N7? If so, if the tablet is placed on the stand in portrait mode, does the cable reach the USB port? I assume they're not full-travel keys but do people find them ok for touch typing? Do any of them suck the battery or are they usable for hours at a time?
Does anyone have any recommendations for better keyboards?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Afunta-Tabl...2OF4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leather-Key...XMEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDE-Tablet-...0EBQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-5
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Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Univer...768&sr=8-12&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+stand
(This is what i purchased ---->) http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...183895&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=zagg+keys+flex
(There's a review on this keyboard on this forum. You can get this on eBay for $30) http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...5&sr=1-2&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
I hope i helped. The problem with cheap keyboard cases is that a lot of times they don't work. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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I think the cases he linked actually would work -- I have one that looks identical, and is indeed functional, though the Nexus tends to slide out the sides of the case.
However, I think you are right; you DO get what you pay for. The keys are bit mushy and so on, the case is huge, etc. Hey, for the price, it might be worth it, though I wouldn't recommend it. I don't have any regrets either, though.
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I'm in the same boat - was looking to get an Asus Pad Infinity upon release, but tempted by the Nexus 7 + Logitech combo instead.
Now I'd just need to secure the keyboard in the UK and I'm good to go...!
Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I ideally want a keyboard/case combo but everything seems to have too small a keyboard for my liking (I put it down to the size of the Nexus 7). I have seen the Logitech stuff mentioned a few times and I am interested in it although I haven't found anything online. I've been using Logitech computer accessories for years (mouse/keyboard/speakers etc) and I'm always impressed with the build quality and performance. I have an unfortunate habit of not buying cheaper accessories as now I can afford better products and I have experienced the "buy cheap, buy twice" too many times to warrant shelling out £15-£20 on a case that doesn't fit properly or has sub standard build quality. After all, I'm going to be putting a £200 tablet in it.
Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
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I would guess none of the keyboards the OP linked would cause any lag at all, since they are all attached to the tablet via USB/OTB
the ones that you link are bluetooth keyboards, which vary in performance greatly.
(The OP here...)
I'd go with the Logitech if there wasn't any lag. I expect a powered BT keyboard would use less of the N7's battery than a USB one. And though the BT keyboard's battery would only last a few hours, I'm sure that would suffice for my use case.
I'd be surprised if Logitech don't bring this keyboard to the UK. They'd miss a lot of sales, IMO.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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actually, they all work. ive got one of them, and it works fine.
pretty much any usb keyboard will work. my thermaltake meka g unit with its cherry black mechanical switches works fine, as does my ducky shine with cherry red mechanical switches and full led backlit powered from the nexus 7 via usb. no notable lag, they all work as expected.
You don't have to buy a keyboard case to get a nice USB keyboard for the tablet. Just about any USB keyboard will work fine as long as you have a USB OTG cable.
That said I also have the Logitech Bluetooth keyboard, and it's one of the best slim keyboards, tablet or otherwise, that I have used. I haven't seen any lag so far, though if you sit really far away from the tablet I suppose you could introduce some signal issues. Usually if your keyboard is lagging, it's either a software issue or the batteries are going dead.
The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
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The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
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You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
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You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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I'd say it's portable enough for most people. It's about the same dimensions as the Zagg keyboard. If you have a full size keyboard somewhere nearby, you can do a good comparison by just measuring the width from the left edge of the left Shift key to the right edge of the right Shift key. That's how wide the Logitech keyboard is, and it's about the same height from the bottom of the space bar to the top of the Function keys on standard keyboards.

[Official] Bluetooth Keyboard Case Combo

I'm hoping over the next month or two a few more keyboard/case combos will pop up, other than just the sloppy PU (Poetic) and Crazy on Digital cases found on Amazon and Ebay. Would rather find something that snaps the Nexus 7 into place rather than one that forces you to put it into a sleeve (adds bulk). Additionally, why the extra inch or so on each of those cases below where the tablet is placed?
We need something like the OEM Playbook keyboard case, that doesn't add any unnecessary bulk and is made specifically for the designated tablet. The keyboard cases now are just being sloppily adapted for every new 7" tablet that comes out.
There is definitely a market for a high-end, tailor made keyboard case, maybe around $50-$75. I realize most people buy the Nexus 7 for casual media consumption and it's low $$$. Regardless, I know plenty of people that would rather carry this around than a laptop, for more casual productivity days. Documents to Go, Evernote, Gmail, Google Drive (to name a few) would all benefit from having this option done properly.
Let me know if anyone else comes across a bluetooth keyboard case combo other than the two mentioned that are floating around. I'll also post if I find any further ones.
Thanks!
I recently purchased the Keybook, take a look if you wanted more details/pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29549652#post29549652
hottbill said:
I recently purchased the Keybook, take a look if you wanted more details/pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29549652#post29549652
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I already mentioned the Poetic (which you purchased) and Crazy on Digital cases as they seem to be the only two offerings right now. These third party cases hardly seem like close to as good an option as Blackberry has made for their ill-fated Playbook. Seems like these companies just keep barely adapting the same product for every 7" tab on the market. Additionally, what's the deal with the extra space under the tablet and why only the sleeve option and not snap-into-place option for holding the tab in place.
Hoping something that is more tailor made and form factor will come out for the Nexus 7. Please keep posting anyone's findings.
Thanks again!
I prefer a "stand" case with no keyboard, and IF I need the keyboard, I will get something like Microsoft Wedge (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805560)
Reason being is because I don't use the keyboard too often and most of the time, I prefer not to carry a "thick" device.
But that's just me, though.

MS Surface-style keyboard

Anyone know if there are any manufacturers out there who are in the process of creating a Microsoft Surface style keyboard for the Nexus 7? I'm looking for something with as thin a profile as possible.. preferably, it would replace the Poetic smart cover case I have now. I hate bulk.
Nope, but it would be nice to have if they work well.
Nobody will ever make a cover like that for a 7" tablet because it would suck. Nobody over the age of 15 have hands small enough to operate a keyboard the width of a Nexus 7 with any efficiency and if its not an efficient means of input its a waste of money.
What rot! we use the onscreen keyboard easily enough though it's not the best thing and a physical keyboard is bound to be better especially if it's well made.
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What rot! we use the onscreen keyboard easily enough though it's not the best thing and a physical keyboard is bound to be better especially if it's well made.
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we use the onscreen keyboard with thumbs or one hand. are you going to use a physical keyboard with thumbs or one hand? even if you are willing i can not see a large enough group willing to do that for a company to spend the money in developing that small of a keyboard. especially a well made keyboard
I'm over the age of 15 and I've got tiny hands. Wish there was some kind of surface-like keyboard available, because I'd certainly make use of it.
Too bad the small-handed market isn't bigger, because nobody ever makes things with us in mind. Trying to find adult gloves that fit is a nightmare!
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JediMasterASD said:
Nobody will ever make a cover like that for a 7" tablet because it would suck. Nobody over the age of 15 have hands small enough to operate a keyboard the width of a Nexus 7 with any efficiency and if its not an efficient means of input its a waste of money.
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Lol guess the we aren't using the on screen keyboards then cause of the size
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BrianDigital said:
Lol guess the we aren't using the on screen keyboards then cause of the size
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I just placed my N7 up to my keyboard and all the letters would fit, I tiny bit of resizing would be needed to fit in punctuation but a good design could definately be practical at this size.
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I've used this with another tablet- it was perfectly serviceable, if a bit bulky. So it's completely doable, and the "no one will ever make a cover like that because it would suck" comment made me smile.
The comments that it would be too small for anyone to use tend to irritate me too. People claimed the galaxy note and even many of the original 4" androids were too big to operate one-handed and that they would suck as phones. Yet even with a 5.3" screen the note is can be used one-handed fairly easily. It isn't as comfortable to do so as a 4.3-4.7" range phone but it is still perfectly functional.
The same goes for keyboards on 7" tablets. They aren't as comfortable as full sized ones but they are still very convenient at times and add to the functionality of the tablet. I had a similar cover to Radon_22 for my original galaxy tab and found it very useful. I'm a former competitive heavyweight judoka and powerlifter so I don't exactly have small gentle hands yet it only took a few days of practice for me to adjust to typing on a small keyboard. I've also used some of the older Japanese produced 5-7" UMPC's and they were fine for me with some practice. I had to modify my touch typing style but once I adjusted my typing speed for documents was much better than on the on-screen keyboard. The main issue I had with the keyboard was the bulk it added; I only needed the keyboard in specific situations (documents, note taking, gaming) and being a cheap product the leather case and rubber keys were quite bulky. Secondly the quality and responsiveness of the keys was an issue; I've played around with the xperia tablet's surface-style capacitive keyboard cover and it performed far better than my old tab case.
One final point regarding the size; A lot of people actually do type on the nexus 7 in landscape mode which is far smaller than a 7" physical keyboard. I find thumb typing in portrait to be the most comfortable and accurate but during meetings I often find myself taking notes in landscape mode and I can actually type quite fast like that. The main issue is mi****ting keys (especially delete and the spacebar) during touch typing which is an issue with 10" tablets too. Having a compact physical keyboard that is always on the tablet would be a huge benefit for my work.
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I've used this with another tablet- it was perfectly serviceable, if a bit bulky. So it's completely doable, and the "no one will ever make a cover like that because it would suck" comment made me smile.
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That's the Minisuit Nexus 7 model. Available on Amazon for $30 with free shipping (prime). They also make the model that was referred to as the "Aluminum" one.
May try it.
http://www.amazon.com/MiniSuit-Blue...972424&sr=1-2&keywords=minisuit+keyboard+case
I have never had any problem using the on-screen keyboard on my Nexus 7 in landscape mode. In any case the fact that surface-style keyboard would effectively make use of the same area as the entire Nexus 7 screen would surely make it even more usable!
I would love a surface-style keyboard :good:
Melarsa said:
I'm over the age of 15 and I've got tiny hands. Wish there was some kind of surface-like keyboard available, because I'd certainly make use of it.
Too bad the small-handed market isn't bigger, because nobody ever makes things with us in mind. Trying to find adult gloves that fit is a nightmare!
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I don't really know what is meant by a "Surface style keyboard". But if all you are looking for is a "pocket size" keyboard, there are plenty of them on eBay.
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I don't really know what is meant by a "Surface style keyboard". But if all you are looking for is a "pocket size" keyboard, there are plenty of them on eBay.
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I believe the idea is a keyboard with flat keys so that it can flip over and serve as a cover for the tablet.
This comes close but only for the iPad just now. http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/fabricskin-keyboard-folio
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This comes close but only for the iPad just now. http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/fabricskin-keyboard-folio
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That is pretty nice.
I think ultimately, the issue comes down to size. I've got the aluminum style keyboard/cover for my Nexus 7 now, and while it works somewhat well, I will never be able to type as fast on it as I do on a regular sized-keyboard. Manufacturers are aware of this, so there's not much of an initiative to design a flat-style keyboard for the 7" tablet market.. this is the best option for a mobile, full-sized keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Bluetooth-Compact-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B005SIKYUK
That's a windows keyboard though. Logitech also make a similar one and there's a Motorola keyboard around that's the same and pretty cheap on eBay.

Depression is kicking in.. NO GOOD STYLUS OPTIONS

Of course there are fine tipped options out there, but no palm rejection and no levels of pressure sensitivity. Also, right when I thought I found the savior (Yufu Pro).. it was suppose to ship out mid 2014 and it is pushed back to early 2015. WTF? They won't even to respond to anyone I hear. It looks really promising, but I cannot wait any longer. It's not like I did not give different pens their fair shot. I recently purchased the long awaited Alupen which has a ultra fine tip housed in a thick body which I didn't mind, but couldn't find a glove that blocked my palm and finger input/did not want to wear a glove when I draw. Another note is there are no buttons so when I want to erase or undo it is a huge pain is the butt. And the thick point pen options are not accurate in my opinion as well as all the issues the Alupen has (one plus to note is no battery needed). Fine tip is worth it.
Is it too much to ask for a Slim Pen that has pressure sensitivity, bluetooth integration of course (My Tab S 8.4 has Bluetooth LE for goodness sake), at least 2 buttons, maybe an eraser tip, and most importantly a fine accurate point. They make them for the Ipad all the freaking time for years now. Ipad has a damn Cintiq highly accurate/quality pen that works flawlessly. It's not like our hardware is different. What issues prevent companies from saving us? Hardware? Software? SDK? Resolution? Latency? Android Phobia? I would love a detailed explanation. We even have high quality apps that can utilize all of these functionalities I have listed and more that I probably haven't even thought of. I have searched far and wide Google/XDA/YouTube and no luck so far. If there are good alternatives I'd love to help people like me who want to take notes or draw.
Wish Samsung could have just included the S-Pen :/
Could you use a Galaxy Note pen or something like that?
I see that hex3 site is selling Yufu Pro now. DO check..
Check all apps support this pen?
Wacom have released some tablet pens for not too much I think I saw?

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