Wired charging speeds? - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

For several generations Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging has been the equivalent of Quick Charge 2.0. Any change with the S10 line? How about support for Power Delivery?
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No changes to wired charging on the S10 unfortunately

thegreatone3 said:
For several generations Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging has been the equivalent of Quick Charge 2.0. Any change with the S10 line? How about support for Power Delivery?
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The S9 works with Power Delivery, and reports as "fast charging", I can't imagine the S10 not supporting it as well.

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Does Note 4 quick charge 2.0 support Nexus 6?

Nexus 6 support Qualcomm quick charge 2.0.
Can i use the note 4 quick charge 2.0 to charge the nexus 6?
Is it 9V 1.67A, or 12V?
"Giving the Nexus 6 its juice is a non-removable 3,220 mAh battery. Similar to its predecessors, the battery has wireless charging capabilities, and can supposedly regain 6 hours of power after 15 minutes of charging with a specialized Turbo charger that features Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology. We'll detail how these stats actually pan out later on in the review."
Quick Charge is a feature of Qualcomm, the manufacturer of the CPU/SoC for the phone. It is a standard for their hardware so any phone supporting Quick Charge will work with any Quick Charge charger. You want to be sure the charger and the phone are using the same version of Quick Charge (v1 or v2). See https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge for compatible phones and chargers.
I lost my Motorola charger and picked up a Power Partners 30W charger that is listed as compatible and seems to be faster than the Motorola but I didn't do any specific measurements. Typically, I use a Qi (Tylt Vu) changer and don't plug in.
QC 2.0 as mentioned above is a Qualcomm feature. Any certified QC 2.0 charger will work and quick charge your nexus or Note. I don't see he Samsung stock Note 4 charger in Qualcomms site for approved devices but maybe they haven't updated it in a while. It should work just fine. I use a Incipio QC 2.0car charger for when I need s boost on my phone or for road trips. I normally lose battery while using a non QC2.0 car charger running GPS and all of the goodies. In the end any QC 2.0 charger will work on the Nexus 6 which supports QC and you will be fine. They will also work on the Note 4.

Quick Charging

Does the LG G4 have quick charging?
I've heard that the LG G4 has quick charging capabilities, but I haven't been able to get fast charging like on my note 4 so far. I'm using an OEM Samsung Note 4 Fast Charger (which activates fast charge on Note 4). Time from near empty to full is around 1:50 for me
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OreoMaster said:
Does the LG G4 have quick charging?
I've heard that the LG G4 has quick charging capabilities, but I haven't been able to get fast charging like on my note 4 so far. I'm using an OEM Samsung Note 4 Fast Charger (which activates fast charge on Note 4). Time from near empty to full is around 1:50 for me
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I bought 3rd party Quick Charge 2.0 adapter, while I haven't really timed the charging time, but it is definitely faster. I will try to time it next time, but heard that it should take about 1h and 40 min.
Yes it does. The charger that comes with the LG G4 is a standard charger though.
I purchased the Anker 18W quick charger and it charges my G4 substantially faster than the stock charger which I used for a few days prior to receiving the Anker. I haven't documented the charging times, although the difference is very noticeable. I'm using the stock USB cable because it is longer and I like the nubs which aid in inserting the plug in the proper direction.
OreoMaster said:
Does the LG G4 have quick charging?
I've heard that the LG G4 has quick charging capabilities, but I haven't been able to get fast charging like on my note 4 so far. I'm using an OEM Samsung Note 4 Fast Charger (which activates fast charge on Note 4). Time from near empty to full is around 1:50 for me
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Samsung Fast Charger is not the same as Qualcomm Quick Charge.
Yes it supports qualcomms quick charge abilities. But many reviews online show it's slightly slower than Samsungs fast charge and it can be very picky on adapter used.
The G4 does have quick charge capabilities. It is very quick to charge, however if you don't use the stock charger it most Lilley won't quick charge. However I have noticed with updates the range of adapters it accepts has increased.
Hope that helps.
pvalvo1 said:
The G4 does have quick charge capabilities. It is very quick to charge, however if you don't use the stock charger it most Lilley won't quick charge. However I have noticed with updates the range of adapters it accepts has increased.
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As far as I know, the stock charger which comes with the LG G4 is not Quick Charge 2.0 capable, and won't utilize the LG G4 quick charge 2.0 capability. You need to purchase a Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
Biker1 said:
As far as I know, the stock charger which comes with the LG G4 is not Quick Charge 2.0 capable, and won't utilize the LG G4 quick charge 2.0 capability. You need to purchase a Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
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My G4 h811 came with a stock quick charger.
pvalvo1 said:
My G4 h811 came with a stock quick charger.
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Every article back in May stated that the LG G4 didn't come with a quick charge 2.0 charger, including my purchase back in July. Every post I've read on xda, others have had to purchase a quick charge 2.0 charger to take advantage of the LG G4's quick charge capability. If you have one, it would appear that current LG G4's are coming with one stock in the box, if you got yours recently. Others can confirm whether this is the case.
Biker1 said:
Every article back in May stated that the LG G4 didn't come with a quick charge 2.0 charger, including my purchase back in July. Every post I've read on xda, others have had to purchase a quick charge 2.0 charger to take advantage of the LG G4's quick charge capability. If you have one, it would appear that current LG G4's are coming with one stock in the box, if you got yours recently. Others can confirm whether this is the case.
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Or maybe the user that claims to have stock quick charger in the box, can show us a picture with specs info that is printed on the AC Adapter.
The stock charger I got was 1.8mah output max. Using battery monitor widget, the best utility for this type of thing, it would max out at 1800mah. Not bad. Full charge in about 1:45.
I purchased a tronsmart quick charger, and the max charging amperage measures 2100mah. Full charge in about 1 hour. Good times.
The charger that came with mine is 1.8mAh. QC2 is 2.0mAh. Also, QC2 has to be enabled in the kernel, which to the best of my knowledge, it is not.
That said, a QC2 2.0mAh ac adapter does speed up charging some, but not at the speed s of true QC2.
Since the H811 is one of the few variants with an unlockable bootloader, I had hoped kernel dev would help us out. :\
Barsky said:
The charger that came with mine is 1.8mAh. QC2 is 2.0mAh. Also, QC2 has to be enabled in the kernel, which to the best of my knowledge, it is not.
That said, a QC2 2.0mAh ac adapter does speed up charging some, but not at the speed s of true QC2.
Since the H811 is one of the few variants with an unlockable bootloader, I had hoped kernel dev would help us out. :\
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It is enabled on h811...i got the anker qc2.0 charger and high output cord
jamesd1085 said:
It is enabled on h811...i got the anker qc2.0 charger and high output cord
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Wonder if they changed it in the 81110N update. In the past the apps I checked with told me it was not. Checking.
Also, please clarify what in that screen shot confirms QC2.0? Thanks
Barsky said:
Wonder if they changed it in the 81110N update. In the past the apps I checked with told me it was not. Checking.
Also, please clarify what in that screen shot confirms QC2.0? Thanks
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The charging rate...also my charger turns blue with non qc2.0 devices and green when enabled...it definitely is green when charging my g4 and blue when i plug in my Alcatel tab...
jamesd1085 said:
The charging rate...also my charger turns blue with non qc2.0 devices and green when enabled...it definitely is green when charging my g4 and blue when i plug in my Alcatel tab...
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Cool. I think they must have enabled it in 81110n. In 81110H I would get a warning from the app that my kernel qas not qc 2.0 enabled. I think it was with Ampere. I no longer see that message. I have the Aukey qc 2.0 block.
Of course it is pretty much a moot point for me now. I got into Wireless charging with a Yootech tag and charging puck
Barsky said:
Cool. I think they must have enabled it in 81110n. In 81110H I would get a warning from the app that my kernel qas not qc 2.0 enabled. I think it was with Ampere. I no longer see that message. I have the Aukey qc 2.0 block.
Of course it is pretty much a moot point for me now. I got into Wireless charging with a Yootech tag and charging puck
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How fast do they charge...i have been wanting to get a wireless charger since they started making phones with the capabilities...but i always hear its a very slow charge
jamesd1085 said:
How fast do they charge...i have been wanting to get a wireless charger since they started making phones with the capabilities...but i always hear its a very slow charge
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I've never really timed it but it is not bad at all. And the convenience of just plopping the phone on a puck is so nice compared to screwing with the micro-usb plug. Wish we had usb-c.
With wireless charging, I was able to get ~800mah. So far less than wired charging for obvious reasons, but not bad.
maH are far more useful a measurement. But it does taper down as % battery full increases.

[Q] Is Quick Charge 3.0 supported?

I have read that QC 3.0 will be supported since the Qualcomm 820 supports it. But, the S7/edge has the same processor and only supported QC 2.0. Any ideas?
Don't think so...
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It's confusing. The Note7 has a different Adaptive Fast Charger than earlier Samsung phones. The Note7's charger is 12V, 2.1A while the Note5 and S7-series chargers output 9V, 1.67A . QC 2.0 supports a maximum of 2A and works with 5, 9, and 12 volt chargers. Qualcomm's website lists the Note7 as a Quick Charge 2.0 device. So why did Samsung upgrade the charger output? With QC 2.0 maxing out at 2A they could have introduced 12V with the S7-series as there's no USB-C requirement or benefit on 2.0. Maybe Samsung moved from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 on the Note7 which may have an impact.
So like I said it's confusing. But with a higher output charging adapter and the Note7's assumed ability to accept that higher output you'd have to assume it'll charge faster than the S7-series. Even on QC 2.0 if Qualcomm's website is right. I guess we'll find out more when a more tech focused site like Anandtech and GSMArena do their full testing.
I plan to test it out using my inline USB multimeter that records data and sends it to my PC. Once my Note 7 gets here I'll run some tests assuming I'm not too busy at work
I doubt it. Samsung likes to use their own.
arcanexvi said:
I doubt it. Samsung likes to use their own.
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It doesn't matter what Samsung calls it they're still using Qualcomm quick charge
Pilz said:
It doesn't matter what Samsung calls it they're still using Qualcomm quick charge
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It does if you plug in a "qualcomm" charger and the phone doesn't identify it and use the fast charge or vice versa.
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arcanexvi said:
It does if you plug in a "qualcomm" charger and the phone doesn't identify it and use the fast charge or vice versa.
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It doesn't because Samsung's adaptive fast charging is just QC 2.0 like it was on the S7/S7 Edge. I thoroughly tested mine with a variety of QC 2.0/3.0 chargers a while back.

Fast charging

Is there any way we can increase the charging speed of exynos variant note 9? Coming from oneplus phone so it's really frustrating to see the charging time :laugh:
Note 9 doesn't even fast charge with oneplus's charger.
Any other charger we can use to increase the charging speed? Like Super Vooc, QC 3-4, Mate 20 pro's charger?
And what about Samsung's duo wireless charger? Does it charge phone faster than supplied wired one or the same?coz it has more Watt than adaptive fast charger..
One word: No.
Because Samsung has limited voltage and ampere. Let's see how S10 will improve the charging speed.
QC2.0 18W and USB PD 15W are the only fast charge standards supported by the Note 9 Exynos afaik.
It is not possible as Samsung has installed security features to prevent the Note 9's battery to prevent it from overheating.

USB-C PD vs Adaptive Fast Charge?

Does anyone happen to know which one charges these phones faster? If I'm not mistaken, Adaptive Fast Charge is basically QC 2.0 right? So wouldn't USB-C PD be faster?
My phone hasn't been shipped yet, otherwise I would test it out myself.
The phone only supports Samsung's Adaptive fast charging, so using a USB-C PD charger won't make a difference.
It also supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 as fast charging, just like the S8 and S9s.
purchio said:
It also supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 as fast charging, just like the S8 and S9s.
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Wrong
purchio said:
It also supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 as fast charging, just like the S8 and S9s.
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Nope - Quick Charge 2.0 maybe, but not 3.0.
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Wrong
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Devhux said:
Nope - Quick Charge 2.0 maybe, but not 3.0.
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That's a QC 3.0 only powerbank according to it's specs.
Take your own conclusions from that...
It charges as fast as the original wall adapter
purchio said:
That's a QC 3.0 only powerbank according to it's specs.
Take your own conclusions from that...
It charges as fast as the original wall adapter
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S10 devices only support 2.0. your previous post said it supports 3.0. it does not.
Any charger will charge the phone, but not faster than the specs allow. I can have a 25w charger but my S10 will not take the 25w capacity
Wagedroid said:
S10 devices only support 2.0. your previous post said it supports 3.0. it does not.
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Connect a QC 3.0 charger, see the charging speed, come to this thread again.
go check out the 2000$ Fold, it listed "compatible with qc 2.0".
2000$ phone supports qc 2.0
s10 support qc 3.0 HAHAHAHA
hope you get what i saying ..
purchio said:
Connect a QC 3.0 charger, see the charging speed, come to this thread again.
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Why would I go through all that just to prove what we both already know. You even said it yourself that it charges as fast as wall adapter. Wall adapter that ships with the phone is NOT 3.0, so what are you trying to prove exactly? Wall adapter charges at 2.0 amps.
Please stop misinforming people, it's nothing personal, just trying to state the facts. See attachment
purchio said:
Connect a QC 3.0 charger, see the charging speed, come to this thread again.
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You need to contact Samsung and let them know this, I'm not sure they're even aware of this feature.
chill guys, its cause QC is backward compatible.. so using QC3.0 you will get fast charging up to QC2.0.. not too sure about USB-C PD but i can confirm when using USB-C PD charger, you will get fast charging as well.. not too sure which is faster.. probably the same if the charger can charge up to 15W which is the official max charging speed for S10 btw.
edit: i use the same USB-C PD charger for nintendo switch and S10+
Tel864 said:
You need to contact Samsung and let them know this, I'm not sure they're even aware of this feature.
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Lmao. I'm really hoping they release the 25w in next update. That would make the device perfect for me.
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hayoungpinkpanda said:
chill guys, its cause QC is backward compatible.. so using QC3.0 you will get fast charging up to QC2.0.. not too sure about USB-C PD but i can confirm when using USB-C PD charger, you will get fast charging as well.. not too sure which is faster.. probably the same if the charger can charge up to 15W which is the official max charging speed for S10 btw.
edit: i use the same USB-C PD charger for nintendo switch and S10+
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I called chief, he said that we were chill, and that the phones charging capabilities was already stated in this thread. Thanks tho
Obviously Quick Charge 3.0 would be backwards compatible with Quick Charge 2.0. There's no such thing as "Quick Charge 3.0 only." If there was, boy would we have a lot of fried/exploded devices as they received more current than they were rated for.
Haha did you guys even look up what QC 2 and QC 3 were? They aren't that much different, just the step size. Both have a max of 18 W. You would need a volt meter to prove the phone was QC 3 compatible, showing it charging at a voltage that was not near 5, 9, or 12 volts. As far as I'm aware, the S10 either charges at 5V with Fast Charging disabled, or at 9 V if fast charging is enabled. That would adhear to the QC 2 spec, not the QC 3 spec, since it can't do voltages between 5 and 9. If the S10 gets an update for 25W charging, I believe it would charge at 12 V. Still, only QC 2 compliant, but not QC 3.
USB-C PD can go up to 100 W. I think 45 W and 90 W for laptops is pretty common. The Huawei P30 Pro can supposedly charge at 40 W.
hayoungpinkpanda said:
chill guys, its cause QC is backward compatible.. so using QC3.0 you will get fast charging up to QC2.0.. not too sure about USB-C PD but i can confirm when using USB-C PD charger, you will get fast charging as well.. not too sure which is faster.. probably the same if the charger can charge up to 15W which is the official max charging speed for S10 btw.
edit: i use the same USB-C PD charger for nintendo switch and S10+
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Thank you!
Guess they were having a hard time understanding that QC 3.0/2.0/whatever give the fastest charging speeds that S10 can handle.
On my S9 with Nintendo Switch USB-C PD charger I couldn't get 15w, just 10w (aprox. 5v and 2a).
purchio said:
It also supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 as fast charging, just like the S8 and S9s.
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I've even quoted my first comment.
Just read what I said: that QC 3.0 charges also give S10 the fastest charging speeds it can handle, NOT QC 3.0 WATTS/SPEED/WHATEVER.
Pretty simple to understand..
Lol retraction at its finest.
"i HavE a qC 4.0 aDapTeR, iT chArGeS mY phOne LiKe A 2.0 aDapTeR"
What did we learn here? Anyone?
purchio said:
On my S9 with Nintendo Switch USB-C PD charger I couldn't get 15w, just 10w (aprox. 5v and 2a).
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Thats likely because you have fast charging disabled. USB-C PD chargers should be capable of charging at 9V 1.67 amps (15W) the same as any QC 2.0 or QC 3.0 or Adaptive Fast Charging capable device. They are just different standards.
Haven't tried using the original charger yet, but my s10 charges on my usb pd capable charger for about 1hr and 20 from 15% to 100%
I'm able to charge up my S10 with a QC. 3.0 power bank and car charger in about the same time as the stock wall charger.
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