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Thinking of moving from note 8 to p20 pro

I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....

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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.

camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away

vandal4e said:
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it

esiemi said:
had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Neo_Sk8eR said:
Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.

Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.

Jonathan-H said:
I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery

What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/horrible-touchscreen-latency-lag-delay-t3774567
It's this

I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups

I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?

Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..

You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.

i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally

Am I crazy out Huawei is actually one step ahead now?

Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??

vodovodo said:
Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?

venki5star said:
You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
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No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?

vodovodo said:
No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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I never been with Huawei before. But I do know Megapixel is a gimmick. If the camera software is not good, all these megapixels are nothing but more storage space.

You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.

vodovodo said:
No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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EMUI will trigger a slow descent into madness. It's quite a frustrating experience. The aggressive app management is great for the battery life but a terrible user experience. AOD is frustratingly useless and don't get me started on notifications. A nightmare... The wireless desktop thingy is a cool party trick and the camera can be great. It's not as consistent as the pixel's. I would streer clear if I were you.
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Duncan1982 said:
You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
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I have had a couple of Huawei phones and wouldn't touch one again ever. While EMUI was one factor, the main reason is lack of support in the US. They are a pretty popular phone overseas though.

vodovodo said:
Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.

How about we all embrace the fact that smaller companies have been rising to compete with current flagships. Competition is a good thing, without it nobody would create anything new. Take a look at the iPhone vs Android. Granted, the iPhone does compete with Android but nowhere near the same level Android competes with other Android phones.

MinwooChong said:
Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
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Thanks I did, in the same video note 9 outperformed the iPhone max, witch is not the case with my usage and it makes sense since normal day to day use phone ain't always in our hands and standby time is much better on an iphone. These looping battery tests doesn't always make sense
By the way the lense size itself is huge on the mate 20 compared to s10 not only megapixel count

Got the mate 20 pro Thanks, got it for almost 550$ ... Couldn't resist the deal.
software wise it sucks big time. UI and navigation feels like an unfinished iOS clone ! Samsung one UI is much much better
Hardware is freaking awesome so far. Over 3 hours SOT with 68% left, app management is very flexible not that bad and it's blazing fast and smooth, camera is great and much better results than note and iPhone

S10 Plus or P30 Pro

After a 30 days im still thinking which phone to get.
I have now Mate 20 Pro and I can give my phone and 200EUR for S10 Plus or P30 Pro.
Yes I know difference between them on paper. But how is in really life? I read here on XDA they are so many people who used P30 Pro and S10 Plus.
So please what are you think of this two phones? What at end is better to choose for you?
P. S. Im heavy usere, and I love camera. I know that they said P30 Pro is better in photos and S10plus in video, but they are post by people who wrote that P30 Pro video is not far behind S10 Plus and etc...
I am grateful to everyone who helps. And please tell your honest answers if you used both phones. Without Huavei or Samsung fans.

P30 Pro much better I have sell my S10 plus
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P30 Pro much better I have sell my S10 plus
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I bought p30 pro 3 days ago. Amazing phone but I don't like video so much and Samsung's oneui seems way better as I see on videos.
U wqs thinking to switch to s10 plus.
Tell us cons and pros for both phone and why u sold s10 plus.
Thank you.
P30 Pro 256gb Aurora Power

Battery
Performance
Camera
Zoom
Night
Video with AI amazing
Is better on P30 Pro
Samsung have 4K 60fps better
Not have video with AI
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I currently have both the S10+ and P30 Pro. For my use, the P30 Pro battery life makes all the difference. Being able to use the phone all day and stilll have 30-40% battery available when I go to bed is is amazing. With the S10+ I would have battery anxiety starting around 8 pm. I'm not that concerned about the P30+ lackluster video performnace and still hope a software update will make it better.

So how much is bad P30 Pro video? (i see some videos comparisons but thats all was when P30 Pro have pre-release software).
What about photos?

isko01 said:
So how much is bad P30 Pro video? (i see some videos comparisons but thats all was when P30 Pro have pre-release software).
What about photos?
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Its not all bad... just doesn't have 4K 60FPS & a true slow motion mode at high resolution... I don't video a lot and 1080p usually meets my needs...
As someone put it, it's about the whole package... Battery, photo camera, design, etc.
Does the phone do some things exceptional and other stuff not so much, yes...
Overall, at least IMO and my use case, best phone on market currently...
Its subjective and if you have never had a Huawei device, going from Samsung or other, it maybe a bit jarring especially EMUI because you have to do a lot of settings changes to get it to do everything at times the way you want it to... I however enjoy the ability to change some much.... Most of the changes relate to the phone keeping the best in class battery performance, so if I want to make a change at the cost of battery life, I like being the one making that decision and not the other way around.
Other minor annoyances have a purpose behind them... but they are only annoyances if it bothers you for your use case and not understanding the reasoning (which most times is actually well thought out)
I haven't enjoyed an Android phone so much that it has me looking for the next thing.... I really could care less about the OnePlus release already knowing it won't top the P30 pro's camera... Same possibly with the Note 10... that means until the new Pixel phone come into more focus or the new iPhone, I won't be changing... for myself to keep a phone for that long is unheard of in this disposal android market...

I had S10+ nice phone but battery was terrible. Very happy with p30 pro

Considering you already have the mate 20 pro, I would wait for the mate 30 pro as the change from mate 20 pro to p30 pro is a minor upgrade.

P30 Pro is very nice Phone and fast look this vs SD855
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warea said:
Considering you already have the mate 20 pro, I would wait for the mate 30 pro as the change from mate 20 pro to p30 pro is a minor upgrade.
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Not worth the upgrade coming from a Mate 20 pro. I'd definitely recommend waiting for the Mate 30 pro

isko01 said:
After a 30 days im still thinking which phone to get.
I have now Mate 20 Pro and I can give my phone and 200EUR for S10 Plus or P30 Pro.
Yes I know difference between them on paper. But how is in really life? I read here on XDA they are so many people who used P30 Pro and S10 Plus.
So please what are you think of this two phones? What at end is better to choose for you?
P. S. Im heavy usere, and I love camera. I know that they said P30 Pro is better in photos and S10plus in video, but they are post by people who wrote that P30 Pro video is not far behind S10 Plus and etc...
I am grateful to everyone who helps. And please tell your honest answers if you used both phones. Without Huavei or Samsung fans.
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I prefer my S10+ over my P30 Pro.

AfroCreame said:
I prefer my S10+ over my P30 Pro.
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Why? What is difference in really life using?

isko01 said:
Why? What is difference in really life using?
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Better build quality, better screen, better video recording (4K 60fps/HDR), stereo speakers, Samsung Pay, MicroSD expansion, better UI, better front cameras, headphone jack, etc.
Three things I like more about the p30 pro...
Battery life, low light performance and the zoom capabilities.

Did someone have both phones, so he can take same several photos in day light and x5 and x10 zoom.
So we can compare it.
Thx a lot

isko01 said:
Did someone have both phones, so he can take same several photos in day light and x5 and x10 zoom.
So we can compare it.
Thx a lot
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And while they're at it, can they compare the stereo speakers, the QHD displays, the headphone jacks and the micro SD slots?

leoni1980 said:
And while they're at it, can they compare the stereo speakers, the QHD displays, the headphone jacks and the micro SD slots?
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All that is not big deal to me. And if you need more memory you can buy it online.

isko01 said:
All that is not big deal to me. And if you need more memory you can buy it online.
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What was your point, out of interest?

leoni1980 said:
What was your point, out of interest?
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Don't get me wrong, all that is good to have it. And to bad that phone in 2019 don't have all of that.
I know the P30 Pro have good battery, better then S10Plus. Im interested in camera now.
When you watch on YT there's so much paid youtubers. I need to know from people who have bout phones.

isko01 said:
Don't get me wrong, all that is good to have it. An hid to bad that phone in 2019 don't have all of that.
I know the P30 Pro have good battery, better then S10Plus. Im interested in camera now.
When you watch on YT there's so much paid youtubers. I need to know from people who have bout phones.
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I do actually have both - an Aurora Blue single SIM P30 Pro and a Prism White dual SIM S10+.
No point comparing the zoom though, as the S10 only has 2X and anything else is just basic digital cropping. The 5X zoom in the P30 Pro is fairly poor quality in my personal opinion - you can get decent enough shots in bright light but the dynamic range is a lot poorer than the main lens, there's a lot more fringing and it just isn't as sharp. The 10-50X zoom is fun, but ultimately the pictures are unusable but for anything other than the gimmick factor. The wide angle lens is better on the S10 than the P30 Pro, and in my opinion you get a much more reliable 'snapshot' front he S10+ when you don't want to think too much. Things like focus speed and overall ability to grab an action shot are just (IMO) better on the S10+
Battery life is almost identical for me but I switch off Huawei's power management for most apps via Settings, Battery, App Launch. If I don't do this then apps like Google Photos and my security camera software simply don't work properly - even apps that use audio playback (for videos) when the screen is off get switched off by default after a few minutes in EMUI. This brutal battery management is why Huaweis have such good stamina out of the box, but once you disable it and ensure all your apps work properly then the difference becomes negligible. Remember that there's only 100mAh more capacity in the P30 Pro.
The software is in my opinion much nicer on the Samsung - yes you can hide some things with Nova Launcher, but the little touches like the slicker notification popups, the more user-friendly lockscreen, the more slickly designed notification area, Edge Lighting etc make for a nicer day-to-day experience to my mind. I even like the fact that you can turn off the fingerprint unlock indicator on the S10+; on the P30 Pro the indicator lights up every time you move the phone, as well as every time you unlock (and it's *very* bright at night). I've run a display test and I find that a small patch where the fingerprint scanner resides is slightly shifting in tone compared to the rest of the display, and I'm concerned that this is screen burn caused by regular unlocking.
My S10+ has also had April security for a couple of weeks. My P30 Pro is still on March, despite being released in April (!). I'm not all that happy with Huawei's update reliability, and even to get this March update I had to use a PC.
I will say that Night Mode on the P30 Pro is really good, I like the overall feel-in-hand and it is nice and smooth to use. I still like the P30 Pro but between the two I think the S10+ has the edge - not just for the things I listed earlier.

Is this phone worth it for 340€?

Do people still like the phone, even though you cannot unlock the BL anymore and thus no more root, custom roms and tweaks?
Is it worth for 340€? I bought one on sale online, and now I am pondering whether I should send it back or not.
Many people opt for Xiaomi Mi 9 / Mi 9T Pro in these price regions, but to be honest, I also tried that one. But regarding photo shooting and video recording and sound it is not on the P20 Pro level.

Good battery, excellent photos and Emui, you'll get used to it...
Wait until March to get Android 10.
For that price it's a very good all-round phone.

People go for xiaomi due to custom roms. P20 pro is a great device, especially at that price!

The Restless Soul said:
People go for xiaomi due to custom roms. P20 pro is a great device, especially at that price!
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Well, you gotta unlock your BL there, in which case you lose your guarantee. But well, it is an huge argument favoring the Xiaomi. I don't think it is so important for my mother to frickle around the software.

Mi 9 has very bad low light performance compared to the P20 Pro. I have the P20 Pro for 2 years now and I have no intention of switching. The fingerprint sensor under the screen is such a good idea to navigate through the OS that I honestly felt it's abscence during a brief period of using the S9 plus and Mate 20 Pro. For video it can be very good but only if you use an app with manual video settings like Open Camera.

EAPOCS said:
Do people still like the phone, even though you cannot unlock the BL anymore and thus no more root, custom roms and tweaks?
Is it worth for 340€? I bought one on sale online, and now I am pondering whether I should send it back or not.
Many people opt for Xiaomi Mi 9 / Mi 9T Pro in these price regions, but to be honest, I also tried that one. But regarding photo shooting and video recording and sound it is not on the P20 Pro level.
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Choose S9+, p20 pro is not as good as what we can read on internet or YouTube.
Personally I switched from an S8+ to Redmi K20, I was happy ( Redmi camera is not as good ass S8+) and today I changed my k20 with a P20 Pro, the phone is good but not at the same level than S9+ of my friend I think ( camera also is better on S9+)
Honestly, I regret it.

what the best rom for this phone ? without emui

achour7 said:
Choose S9+, p20 pro is not as good as what we can read on internet or YouTube.
Personally I switched from an S8+ to Redmi K20, I was happy ( Redmi camera is not as good ass S8+) and today I changed my k20 with a P20 Pro, the phone is good but not at the same level than S9+ of my friend I think ( camera also is better on S9+)
Honestly, I regret it.
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Camera is better on s9+? lmao
The only advantage that s9 plus has is the edge screen, wireless charging, headphone jack, the amoled screen is a better quality but not such a big difference and pretty much it.
Battery,camera and performance wise, p20 pro mops the floor with the s9 plus (unless it uses the snapdragon chipset then they are toe-to-toe)

The Restless Soul said:
Camera is better on s9+? lmao
The only advantage that s9 plus has is the edge screen, wireless charging, headphone jack, the amoled screen is a better quality but not such a big difference and pretty much it.
Battery,camera and performance wise, p20 pro mops the floor with the s9 plus (unless it uses the snapdragon chipset then they are toe-to-toe)
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I'm test the p20 pro and writing you from IT. I can compare it to my old S8+.
Battery losts 10% in 40min, it's really bad compared to 1h30 on S8+ ( A little less on the S9+) accu battery detects a healthy battery.
P20 pro camera is a little bit sharper but my old S8+ is way better with colors, high dynamics range (Especially this point), autofocus. Vidéo, microphone, screen are much better on S9.
OneUi is light years ahead Emui 9.1 and I'm impatient for Emui 10 ?

achour7 said:
I'm test the p20 pro and writing you from IT. I can compare it to my old S8+.
Battery losts 10% in 40min, it's really bad compared to 1h30 on S8+ ( A little less on the S9+) accu battery detects a healthy battery.
P20 pro camera is a little bit sharper but my old S8+ is way better with colors, high dynamics range (Especially this point), autofocus. Vidéo, microphone, screen are much better on S9.
OneUi is light years ahead Emui 9.1 and I'm impatient for Emui 10
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Who isn't. Still, i like the p20 pro, not a huge fan of the edge screen that the s9 plus has. Anyway, if the android solution doesn't solve up with the trade war thing, i am porting to another device. Big shame that Huawei gets the bat when they make pretty good phones and keep the competition high

There is no way to get the S9 Plus for 340€ new....

S9+ with Exynos processor does not last a whole day. It's honestly really bad at battery life and also full of bloatware. It does, however, have a great video mode with very smooth zoom compared to the jagged zoom on the P20. Photos seem better on the P20 Pro though.

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S9+ with Exynos processor does not last a whole day. It's honestly really bad at battery life and also full of bloatware. It does, however, have a great video mode with very smooth zoom compared to the jagged zoom on the P20. Photos seem better on the P20 Pro though.
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Don't have s9+ but s8+ exynos has good battery life.
And it was just a software issue yesterday on my p20 pro, now I'm at
80% with 2h45 on screen, it's even better then my Xiaomi MI 9t ?
S9 recived software updates for camera and I compared it with my p20p.

Between flagship the camera quality is very close, the size of the camera's sensor in the smartphones not have much margin to have a huge difference ?
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Don't have s9+ but s8+ exynos has good battery life.
And it was just a software issue yesterday on my p20 pro, now I'm at
80% with 2h45 on screen, it's even better then my Xiaomi MI 9t
S9 recived software updates for camera and I compared it with my p20p.
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Samsung S9 vs Huawei P20 PRO?

Hello there,
My main phone just broke, and for now I can't afford a recent flagship, although I have two options for my budget. (both the same price)
As the title says, I have to choose between a Huawei P20 PRO [128 gb / 6 gb RAM] and a Samsung Galaxy S9 [Exynos 64 gb/ 4gb RAM] (not plus).
So, I would like to ask you if I can get some guidance, I have read reviews and watched a lot of videos, but I'm still not sure...
I'm interested in a reliable device, a day battery for me is enough, a great all rounder camera in any condition.
I just have some concerns about the Huawei device, no OIS, no headphone jack and no Micro SD slot is a really turn off for me, but I would like to know if the experience overall compensate this. For the Samsung, I have seen that night or low light pictures are not as good as the Huawei (if any of you have switched between these two), and so is the battery (3000 mAh vs 4000 mAh).
Thanks in advance, I would really appreciate your answers.

Hi there, I actually owned the Samsung S9 but it was the Plus version. I wanted to get rid of the P20 PRO but I was very disappointed by the Exynos processor. I could not get 1 day of battery with it no matter how many apps I disabled. I learned then that the Exynos processors are not good when it comes to power consumption, they eat the battery up so fast. Also, the night photos were very very bad with the Samsung. The photos taken during day time were also bad whem zooming in full resolution. They had a weird pencil drawing texture. The only thing I liked about the S9 was the smooth zoom and the video quality. However I went back to the P20 PRO. Although the P20 PRO does not have the OIS in 4K mode, I learned to live with it and bought a Feyu Tech hand stabilizer. Combined with the Open Camera software, the P20 PRO is a great phone for filming. But only if you shoot in manual mode, auto mode tends to give noticeable fluctuations in exposure. Also, the sensor size really helps when shooting raw photos. You can crop so much from them and still get clear results thanks to the 40mp sensor.

As a person who lives in a region where Samsung sells the Exynos version of their devices, I can tell you that they are pure garbage and it's a scam that they are priced the same as the Snapdragon devices.
I used Samsung for many years and Exynos devices are one on the main reasons I switched.
Huawei are not flawless, but unless you are sure you can't live without rooting your phone, it's worth to consider.
P20 Pro will work faster than S9, it will last full day with no issues and will give you better photos in most cases.
Yes, you lose the headphone jack, it's a bummer, but you learn to live without it (future is now, baby). You can't expand the storage, but you get double for the same price and there are cheap/free cloud solutions, so worth checking if they suit your needs. The UI is not perfect, but compared to Samsung I'm not sure what's worse.
P.S. Did you check OnePlus devices at the same price point?