dual camera function no longer works with android 9
worse...
setting menu fails to open, and forces the camera app to crash.
adventure72 said:
dual camera function no longer works with android 9
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This is a well known feature they have removed. It's not news.
Saponetto said:
worse...
setting menu fails to open, and forces the camera app to crash.
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Or, don't fiddle with the developer options, as you've stated in your own post.
Max_Terrible said:
This is a well known feature they have removed. It's not news.
Or, don't fiddle with the developer options, as you've stated in your own post.
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but with android 8 it worked great
adventure72 said:
but with android 8 it worked great
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But you're not using Android 8, anymore, are you? You were talking about Android 9 and so was I. Samsung removed the dual camera feature in Android 9, just like they have removed a great many other features, as well. These things are all well documented across the treads on this forum. It's nothing new.
FFS why didnt I read the CONS of the pie update...
I lost the dual camera, i lost the call recording options for what?
For Samsung UI?! Sure it looks better but.... its just UI
I loved this feature, the apk worked fine on 8. It's one feature I really miss. Does anyone know of an alternative that works well on the note 8 pie?
latouffe said:
FFS why didnt I read the CONS of the pie update...
I lost the dual camera, i lost the call recording options for what?
For Samsung UI?! Sure it looks better but.... its just UI
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By that i prefer android 8 than 9, it just ui nothing more
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latouffe said:
FFS why didnt I read the CONS of the pie update...
I lost the dual camera, i lost the call recording options for what?
For Samsung UI?! Sure it looks better but.... its just UI
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I'm no fan of the latest update, but for the record, third party call recording is blocked by Google not samsung..
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you need root and magestic. the look for Samsung 4k60 Camera Mod
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People need to stop being Iphone users. Back in the day, I recall they tried to remove the SD card with the S6. We didn't buy the phone.
Sales did horribly and Samsung said sure, we will put it back.
Now, everyone is flocking buying the S21, sales doing pretty good.
On top no one goes and tells Samsung on Twitter anything.
Samsung wants to make IPHONES.
That's their goal. That's why they paid millions to BTS singers just to get the fanbase.
Related
Just wondering how well does AOSP work so far for Note 4?
Do all features work without glitches? Are there still problems with Samsung not releasing drivers/documentation causing serious bugs and glitches? How is samsung-specific hardware (like S-Pen or fingerprint reader) functioning on AOSP builds?
I'm considering Note 4, but I want a phone with well working AOSP (for example Note 2 has a lot of issues, especially in Lollipop versions, presumably due to lack of Samsung's documentation).
Basic ly you lose all extra features with aosp
Crappy camera no pen. This is with all samsung phones
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I'm aware about loosing all fancy samsung S-Pen apps but how well does S-Pen work technically (does it support right-click via pen button for example? This feature got cut in Lollipop on N2 for some reason so I'm wondering if it works on N4).
matejdro said:
Just wondering how well does AOSP work so far for Note 2?
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You might want to ask this in the Note 2 section.
Racinghart91 said:
Basic ly you lose all extra features with aosp
Crappy camera no pen. This is with all samsung phones
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The camera is hardware........
If your talking about the Note 2 then probably. If your talking about the Note 4 then this is just more rubbish being posted to confuse people.
matejdro said:
I'm aware about loosing all fancy samsung S-Pen apps but how well does S-Pen work technically (does it support right-click via pen button for example? This feature got cut in Lollipop on N2 for some reason).
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Again two phone were mentioned and I have no idea which you are referring to. I'll assume Note 4 .
Everything works fine. Even camera and sPen. UHD recording works. Battery life is ok. You'll get around 12-18 hours of moderate usage. Of course you will loose TW features but you should already have known that. If you don't use action memo, S-health, S-whatever, KNOX or use the downsize app feature (Which nothing supports it anyways) then you will be fine.
EDIT: I forgot to mention. If you have another Samsung accessory like the Samsung Gear 2 then you don't want to use anything but TouchWiz. Samsung has locked out paying customers from using them on anything unless it is running BloatWiz, I mean TouchWiz.
Yeah I meant Note 4, I mistyped, sorry (edited my post above).
Thanks for the answer.
Also @airwa1kin7 does what you said apply to Kitkat roms or also to Lollipop ones?
matejdro said:
Yeah I meant Note 4, I mistyped, sorry (edited my post above).
Thanks for the answer.
Also @airwa1kin7 does what you said apply to Kitkat roms or also to Lollipop ones?
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Like KK AOSP?
Racinghart91 said:
Basic ly you lose all extra features with aosp
Crappy camera no pen. This is with all samsung phones
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S-pen works fine. FV-5 camera is great and UHD recording works fine. Currently the finger print sensor is not supported, but might be in future versions, most of the code is there already: Google pulled it at the last moment cause Apple bought the company but most was uploaded already, so it should be doalbe to support it.
Battery is the same as TW. ROM is stable, no crashes or weird bugs.
Anyway make sure you buy the snapdragon variant if you want AOSP: Exynos chipset is not yet supported and I'd say you'll see the Note 5 in the shops before the Note 4 Exynos AOSP is stable.
airwa1kin7 said:
Like KK AOSP?
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Yes.
matejdro said:
Yes.
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Haven't used a KK AOSP ROM yet. If i'm going to go through the painful process of using 4.4.4 I'll just use TW instead of AOSP. I've primarily just used LL AOSP ROMS.
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S-pen works fine. FV-5 camera is great and UHD recording works fine. Currently the finger print sensor is not supported, but might be in future versions, most of the code is there already: Google pulled it at the last moment cause Apple bought the company but most was uploaded already, so it should be doalbe to support it.
Battery is the same as TW. ROM is stable, no crashes or weird bugs.
Anyway make sure you buy the snapdragon variant if you want AOSP.
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can you use air view/command/pointer action memos etc on aosp or just as stylus?
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can you use air view/command/pointer action memos etc on aosp or just as stylus?
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Yeah. s-pen Air view/command just works as in TW. And you can link ejects of the s-pen to an action (like opening your favourite memo). However you can not select and copy/paste a part of the screen although it should be easy to write an app for it, maybe it even exists (it should just overlay the screen with your sketch and then copy/paste that area).
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Yeah. s-pen Air view/command just works as in TW. And you can link ejects of the s-pen to an action (like opening your favourite memo). However you can not select and copy/paste a part of the screen although it should be easy to write an app for it, maybe it even exists (it should just overlay the screen with your sketch and then copy/paste that area).
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hmm maybe its possible to try on my 915f note edge too.
tmac31 said:
hmm maybe its possible to try on my 915f note edge too.
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Somebody was working on the edge. I remember some guy came into the IRC chat asking question about supporting the edge screen, I think it was a few weeks ago. Not sure if he succeeded though, als dont remember his name, sorry.
airwa1kin7 said:
Haven't used a KK AOSP ROM yet. If i'm going to go through the painful process of using 4.4.4 I'll just use TW instead of AOSP. I've primarily just used LL AOSP ROMS.
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Thanks. I assumed you used KK based on your signature but if everything already works on L, even better. I also don't care about KK if L works fine.
gekkehenkie11 said:
S-pen works fine. FV-5 camera is great and UHD recording works fine. Currently the finger print sensor is not supported, but might be in future versions, most of the code is there already: Google pulled it at the last moment cause Apple bought the company but most was uploaded already, so it should be doalbe to support it.
Battery is the same as TW. ROM is stable, no crashes or weird bugs.
Anyway make sure you buy the snapdragon variant if you want AOSP: Exynos chipset is not yet supported and I'd say you'll see the Note 5 in the shops before the Note 4 Exynos AOSP is stable.
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Is fv5 camera an app ? I really enjoyed your cm12 rom henkie. The only big problem for me was the camera quality.. so if there's a way that I could get the camera better I'm right back to your rom
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airwa1kin7 said:
You might want to ask this in the Note 2 section.
The camera is hardware........
If your talking about the Note 2 then probably. If your talking about the Note 4 then this is just more rubbish being posted to confuse people.
Again two phone were mentioned and I have no idea which you are referring to. I'll assume Note 4 .
Everything works fine. Even camera and sPen. UHD recording works. Battery life is ok. You'll get around 12-18 hours of moderate usage. Of course you will loose TW features but you should already have known that. If you don't use action memo, S-health, S-whatever, KNOX or use the downsize app feature (Which nothing supports it anyways) then you will be fine.
EDIT: I forgot to mention. If you have another Samsung accessory like the Samsung Gear 2 then you don't want to use anything but TouchWiz. Samsung has locked out paying customers from using them on anything unless it is running BloatWiz, I mean TouchWiz.
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And the camera drivers are software.
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Racinghart91 said:
Is fv5 camera an app ? I really enjoyed your cm12 rom henkie. The only big problem for me was the camera quality.. so if there's a way that I could get the camera better I'm right back to your rom
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There are several camera apps. The CM12 stock cam, the google cam, the FV-5 cam, open cam, snap cam, just to name a few. I don't like the CM12 stock cam too much neither but the FV-5 camera app is pretty good. It costs $3 though but those are $3 well spent in my opinion You don't need the Cm12 ROM to test them of course, they run on any android platform, so check them out, all available in the app store.
The Samsung cam app is indeed quite nice though, that's one of the few things Samsung actually did right
Racinghart91 said:
Is fv5 camera an app ? I really enjoyed your cm12 rom henkie. The only big problem for me was the camera quality.. so if there's a way that I could get the camera better I'm right back to your rom
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Oops. Auto correct on my phone. I meant the default AOSP camera app. It works fine for me. Even better then the TW app. Which is odd.
And the camera drivers are software.
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That I know. I was being silly.
I had CM12 on my note 4 for a couple of weeks, it wasn't stable enough for a daily driver really, some of the issues I had:
- Overheating, the phone gets hot, really hot, not just normal warming from charging or heavy use. On one occasion the phone smelt like burning electronics, i thought it was going to be dead.
- Camera is unstable, on first launch it was okay, subsequent launches gave an error of unable to connect to camera, only a reboot fixed it.
- Battery life is aweful, on echo i charge once a day on CM12 I had to charge 3 times a day.
- Random reboots, the phone would reboot then get stuck on the CM loading screen.
(I have the N910G,things maybe different on the N910F)
Yeah according to above replies N910F is considerably better than C edition (Apparently Exynos documentation still sucks way more than Qualcomm's?).
Thanks for the answer though, now I know N910G is completely off limits for me.
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I had CM12 on my note 4 for a couple of weeks, it wasn't stable enough for a daily driver really, some of the issues I had:
- Overheating, the phone gets hot, really hot, not just normal warming from charging or heavy use. On one occasion the phone smelt like burning electronics, i thought it was going to be dead.
- Camera is unstable, on first launch it was okay, subsequent launches gave an error of unable to connect to camera, only a reboot fixed it.
- Battery life is aweful, on echo i charge once a day on CM12 I had to charge 3 times a day.
- Random reboots, the phone would reboot then get stuck on the CM loading screen.
(I have the N910G,things maybe different on the N910F)
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Had the same problems with my Note 4 - N910F, lol..
I'm stuch with Touchwiz aswell at the moment
I want to change my phone shutter speed. What should i do?
You cannot. Shutter speed and RAW shooting mode are supported on the S6 Active 6.0 Marshmallow, but Samsung did not provide them in the built in camera app. All the other galaxy s6's and the Note 5 got it.
Ngad said:
I want to change my phone shutter speed. What should i do?
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You can use open camera, it supports raw as well. Get it on play store, and it's free. Great camera app.
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bsbachert said:
You can use open camera, it supports raw as well. Get it on play store, and it's free. Great camera app.
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The Samsung S6 Active has an issue where Camera2 API does not function properly. It's limited to 8MP and doesn't focus right.
FevenKitsune said:
The Samsung S6 Active has an issue where Camera2 API does not function properly. It's limited to 8MP and doesn't focus right.
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Your right. Just checked it to confirm. Totally stinks. [emoji35]
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bsbachert said:
Your right. Just checked it to confirm. Totally stinks. [emoji35]
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I think I figured out whom I need to contact to have this fixed. Re-reading one of many support emails I have received from Samsung, I believe the issue is not something they handle. I believe it is AT&T's. I am contacting them right now, and so far my support experience has been 100x better. Maybe this issue will be fixed after all.
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I think I figured out whom I need to contact to have this fixed. Re-reading one of many support emails I have received from Samsung, I believe the issue is not something they handle. I believe it is AT&T's. I am contacting them right now, and so far my support experience has been 100x better. Maybe this issue will be fixed after all.
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I hope so, and thanks for taking the time to push for something we all will benefit from. Hopefully they will fix this issue. We deserve the same options as the the other S6's.
bsbachert said:
I hope so, and thanks for taking the time to push for something we all will benefit from. Hopefully they will fix this issue. We deserve the same options as the the other S6's.
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Welp... I'm a good half hour in, and now they are telling me to reset my phone, and do a bunch of other stuff.
Code:
REDACTED: I believe the issue is just an error on the developer/team who manages the S6 Active's software updates.
AGENT: Probably.
AGENT: But I want to keep looking into this for you and see what we can do
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FevenKitsune said:
Welp... I'm a good half hour in, and now they are telling me to reset my phone, and do a bunch of other stuff.
Code:
REDACTED: I believe the issue is just an error on the developer/team who manages the S6 Active's software updates.
AGENT: Probably.
AGENT: But I want to keep looking into this for you and see what we can do
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Haha..that won't fix it.
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Haha..that won't fix it.
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It seem's AT&T actually doesn't manage the updates. I clarified my issue and the manager of the person I am talking to and I will contact Samsung about this issue. AT&T is just as confused by this as I am, so the manager of support will be emailing me directly so we can resolve this with Samsung.
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It seem's AT&T actually doesn't manage the updates. I clarified my issue and the manager of the person I am talking to and I will contact Samsung about this issue. AT&T is just as confused by this as I am, so the manager of support will be emailing me directly so we can resolve this with Samsung.
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Cool, hope it gets fixed. Thanks for the update.
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This in no way shape or fashion is my work. I found this and it's working great on my S8+and is also working on my Note 8.
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
Note 8
Crashes on startup on my unrooted Note 8. Any idea why?
HiGreen said:
Crashes on startup on my unrooted Note 8. Any idea why?
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Is it a snapdragon? Working on my T-Mobile snapdragon variant.
ggrant3876 said:
Is it a snapdragon? Working on my T-Mobile snapdragon variant.
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This is embarrasing, but no. It is not. Thank you for your time!
HiGreen said:
This is embarrasing, but no. It is not. Thank you for your time!
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I did the same thing. Don't feel bad.
It didn't work on my phone at first. I had to reboot the phone then it worked fine.
ggrant3876 said:
This in no way shape or fashion is my work. I found this and it's working great on my S8+and is also working on my Note 8.
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
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This works so much better than the stock HDR feature - it's actually one of the main reasons why I insisted on a Snapdragon model.
Does anyone know the video recording limit on this camera app ?
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/amp/
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ggrant3876 said:
Is it a snapdragon? Working on my T-Mobile snapdragon variant.
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I have the samsung unlocked version running on sprint, but I what do I have?
Also does it work side by side with the existing cam? I will be able to chose whichever cam I want to use?
psixichka said:
I have the samsung unlocked version running on sprint, but I what do I have?
Also does it work side by side with the existing cam? I will be able to chose whichever cam I want to use?
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There should be a download link on the post, it's right above the interview with the developer. Yes, I have them both installed on my home screen and they both work fine. Just install it like a regular apk.
Seems Note 8‘s camera works as well as google camera?
Is there somewhere that explains the differences in the various algorithms? I searched around but found only bits and pieces.
Also, it would be nice if someone could post which settings actually work for the Note 8. I tried a few and some wouldn't save and others
(I'm not a big camera buff and really don't use my phone's camera that much, otherwise I would.)
I'm seeing people state that the Google Camera is a bit better than the Stock Samsung one, but my experience is the opposite. Google Camera is giving me bad low light performance. I even used setting from the forums and was still subpar. What settings are you guys using?
I couldn't get this to work on my AT&T Note8 un-rooted.
dccoh said:
I'm seeing people state that the Google Camera is a bit better than the Stock Samsung one, but my experience is the opposite. Google Camera is giving me bad low light performance. I even used setting from the forums and was still subpar. What settings are you guys using?
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Which settings from the forums? You have a link we can try? Thanks.
Unlocked non-rooted on Verizon and installs fine. Samsung Camera is far superior including with HDR so I'll un-install now...
Any news on making this work on Note 8 Exynos variant?
It works only on snapdrago phones
deadlyheart4u said:
It works only on snapdrago phones
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Not correct. Works on Exynos too but if you try to make any changes to settings it'll crash. Only way to revive is by clearing storage from settings!
However I didn't find it significantly better than stock camera and night time/poor lit/dark conditions photos are definitely better with stock camera.
Our note 8 got the AR Emoji and super-slow function for its camera
kmmi said:
Our note 8 got the AR Emoji and super-slow function for its camera
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Yes but i dont know how to activate it
memeliv said:
Yes but i dont know how to activate it
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You have to download a the emoji app from the samsung store lol.
Cant find it
Dchoi229 said:
You have to download a the emoji app from the samsung store lol.
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memeliv said:
Cant find it
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Go to your stock camera and swipe to the left and you should see a blue box that says create my emoji. Click on that and it should redirect you to the samsung galaxy apps page. It's really useless to be honest with you. Animoji for iphone is a lot better and innovative.
Dchoi229 said:
Go to your stock camera and swipe to the left and you should see a blue box that says create my emoji. Click on that and it should redirect you to the samsung galaxy apps page. It's really useless to be honest with you. Animoji for iphone is a lot better and innovative.
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I still cant find it and yes I'm on latest firmware shown in the OP
Touch on stickers in camera, not Swype left.
sergyu91ma said:
Touch on stickers in camera, not Swype left.
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Thanks! It's there
We Sprint users didn't get it with the September update that arrived yesterday. Any way of side-loading it?
I'm still waiting for the update
I've seen the emoji maker app in galaxy apps many days ago excited and heard news, still waiting to get the update...
these functions very nice. but i don't know this super slow motion function is same as note 9 or s9 + ?
stormy_ugur said:
these functions very nice. but i don't know this super slow motion function is same as note 9 or s9 + ?
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No, not the same..... It's so crap [emoji36]
And AR emoji are not the same like s9, Note 9...can only create emoji gifs [emoji35]
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Case89 said:
No, not the same..... It's so crap [emoji36]
And AR emoji are not the same like s9, Note 9...can only create emoji gifs [emoji35]
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live message screen is smaller now. is it possible to backup note 8 oriiginal live message agian?
this live message is so ugly. i don't recommend anyone.
has anyone got these features on verizon in the usa?
jdog94 said:
has anyone got these features on verizon in the usa?
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No they Robbed us.
Steve One said:
No they Robbed us.
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Yes they did! I was cursing and saying the exact same thing.. It's just like the device manager that they took from us for well over a year.. They are always messing with something and taking it something.. And if you look at the date on the kernel, they took a good month to pull things. They're not trying to make sure anything works on their silly network.. They are just trying to remove features in the frail "hope" that it will make people upgrade to the new models.
Same thing for security patches.. Notice we didn't get one at all for 3 months, while Samsung had been rolling them out every month steady. All you have to do is either read here in some of the other threads, or simply sammobile. The latter always tells when they're is an update our patch to any Samsung device. And I just sat, read, and observed. They do this every year, with every single new devices far as Samsung is concerned.
They let Verizon do that to us. But yes, Verizon is as crooked a carrier, as a bent telephone pole.. I feel you what though, it makes me feel just the opposite. Why in the world would I, as a consumer keep investing money in a device that isn't cheap by a Longshot as far as cellular devices are concerned, when all they're going to do, is disable features, that the device was designed for by the manufacturer..
It really, at this price point to me is simply sickening.. And I really and utterly refuse....
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There is no AR feature in the so-called AR emoji for Note 8. There are plenty of app that can be used to create personalized sticker, nothing special.
p4n6 said:
There is no AR feature in the so-called AR emoji for Note 8. There are plenty of app that can be used to create personalized sticker, nothing special.
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Yes there is u just have to be on the right build
Just got the AR emoji and super slow motion update along with security update this morning. I'm using a Verizon samsung Galaxy Note 8.
ycats said:
We Sprint users didn't get it with the September update that arrived yesterday. Any way of side-loading it?
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I'm on sprint and I got it
After installing pie build 108, I noticed that Android finally installed a text selecting zoom lens like iOS. Very useful.
Now a week later, it's gone!!
Anyone have any idea how to get it back?
That was the only thing where I thought iOS was clearly better than Android.
Reflaehed... It's back.
pablo_max said:
After installing pie build 108, I noticed that Android finally installed a text selecting zoom lens like iOS. Very useful.
Now a week later, it's gone!!
Anyone have any idea how to get it back?
That was the only thing where I thought iOS was clearly better than Android.
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I've been waiting for this forever, is it an android implementation or Huawei?
Looking forward to pie now
dladz said:
I've been waiting for this forever, is it an android implementation or Huawei?
Looking forward to pie now
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It's a stock Android feature. So.. I fully expect Huawei to remove it
pablo_max said:
It's a stock Android feature. So.. I fully expect Huawei to remove it
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Well I'm on AOSIP as everyone who has a pro should be IMHO.
Hopefully pie will bring it in.
dladz said:
Well I'm on AOSIP as everyone who has a pro should be IMHO.
Hopefully pie will bring it in.
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Is it working with the google camera app?
I think I will just bite the bullet and buy a pixel 3 xl. I really hate this phone.
pablo_max said:
Is it working with the google camera app?
I think I will just bite the bullet and buy a pixel 3 xl. I really hate this phone.
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The P20 Pro camera app works just as well. There is a variant for the Google camera app but it's nowhere near as fluid as the pro one.
I have no need for the Google one personally, besides the odd gallery blip, it's perfectly fine..