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Bell Users: Tethering Charge?

Just wanted an update. One user said he was charged for tethering however that has never happened with me before, but I haven't tether in awhile. I have never been charged before.
Is anyone regularly tethering, and have you done it lately?
Please let me know as I'm going on a trip soon and being able to tether would be helpful, thanks!.

it is a risk
I tethered many many times over the course of about a full year, so I was shocked to see my tethering charge when it appeared. I had already tethered after that, before getting my bill for the month. I was only charged for it once, in one specific session. Don't think I did anything different. So, even if someone tells you they have never been charged, keep in mind that until it happened to me after a year, I would have told you don't worry about it. Now I NEVER EVER risk tethering.
The risk of being charged may be very small, but the charge you incur could be huge!
You can buy a 500MB monthly data plan for $25. I was charged 100 times that much for 1/3 the data!!!!
mfpreach said:
Just wanted an update. One user said he was charged for tethering however that has never happened with me before, but I haven't tether in awhile. I have never been charged before.
Is anyone regularly tethering, and have you done it lately?
Please let me know as I'm going on a trip soon and being able to tether would be helpful, thanks!.
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Thanks for the update.

When you have the Vogue connected and charging off a usb on a pc, it it automatically tethered when using Android?
I know that on WM, you actually specify that the phone will be used as a modem.
I downloaded some free apps on the Android market, so I hope I won't get dinged........

And what if you have unlimited data?

My package includes Unlimited mobile browsing. Does that change when I go from WM to Android?

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My package includes Unlimited mobile browsing. Does that change when I go from WM to Android?
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Nope I have that unlimited mobile browsing from bell and it works fine with android no additional costs (not sure about tethering I did it awhile ago and it was ok but have not done it lately)

Whew! Thanks for the quick reply. I was downloading some apps from the android store for the past 2 days, and I was playing around with the google map voice nav. All of a sudden, it occurred to me that I might get charged for this!

does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks

dude4 said:
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks
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The thing about PDAnet(the software component that's part of NFSFAN ROM) was that it was designed to mimic browsing through the phone even if you were actually tethering. That's why the providers can't charge you for tethering since bill you for tethering if all the data incurred was through your phone's browser.
The problem here with Android ROMs is no one has come forward to claim there is a PDAnet equivalent software available. If there isn't one then you have to assume that the providers can catch you when you try to tether. Don't take the risk until there's an official way of hiding tethering activity.

You can use PDAnet for Android...it works fine.

I've been tethering using the stock wireless tether app that's in most Android ROMS. No charges... yet.

No problems
I use Pay as you Go for my vogue, with $10/month unlimited browsing.
This only applies to CDMA devices.
I have tethered a lot with no charges yet.
I use about 500 meg - 1 gig per month on my phone. (streaming radio)
So for $120/year I have unlimited use of my Vogue Android anywhere and can tether my laptop on the road.

dude4 said:
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks
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This is pretty much why I am still using NFSFAN's rom. Tethering with the unlimited browser plan is key for me, and NFSFAN went through the trouble to encrypt the data. I was hoping after all these years, the same could be said about Android.
nbrennan said:
I use Pay as you Go for my vogue, with $10/month unlimited browsing.
This only applies to CDMA devices.
I have tethered a lot with no charges yet.
I use about 500 meg - 1 gig per month on my phone. (streaming radio)
So for $120/year I have unlimited use of my Vogue Android anywhere and can tether my laptop on the road.
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Are you with Bell? Do you use any apps to encrypt the data?

Tmobile blocking tether now. Anyone else?

I'm running chromatic and as of 3 this morning tmobile is blocking my tether. Has this happened to anyone else yet? They want to upsell me to add tethering for 15 more a month and it still has the 5gb cap (Total BS) The built in wired tether and pdanet both aren't working, don't know about wifi tether yet but I'm assuming its blocked too. I found some posts by some g2 users this has happened to. Any one else? I'm glad im paying $30 for "unlimited" data. Aholes.
Thanks!
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Wireless tether aka wifi tether for rooted phones from code.google.com should still work. I've seen other reports of such blocks with market programs.
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They popped me last night. G1 rooted running wifi tether for root users and pdanet. This sucks REALLY bad.

im using tether now to be on xda and facebook. im in new mexico and the only message ive gotten from tmoblie was there were slowing my download speeds for hitting my cap with unlimited data plan lol.

I have a rooted G1, and I usually use wifi-tether or Barnacle. Tried PDANet as well.
I've received 8 text-messages from Tmobile regarding my tethering being blocked. Odd thing was, I was streaming pandora-radio on the phone during a long car drive (~5 hours) while these things beeped away at me. I had tethered earlier for a few minutes to check my gmail.
Later when I tried to tether to check my email, any http requests direct me to an upsell message. However, Remote-desktop still works, FTP still works, and most everything except plain webpages work. Tmobile is asking $15/mo for 200MB of data, with $0.10/MB overage charges ontop of your 10GB "unlimited" plan.
I'm unsure of how they detect tethering. It seems to be based off of bandwidth usage, as there's no way for them to discern whether this is phone traffic or laptop traffic. The other thing that could be a possible giveaway is the number of connections that are open. I'd imagine the laptop has a few things open for windows update, msn messenger and who knows what, whereas the phone has Browser and Lattitude.
Regardless, this is balls.

user agent string
If they are blocking web browser traffic, but not other TCP/IP services like FTP or remote desktop, there's a chance they are fingerprinting non-phone web requests by looking at the user agent string. An interesting test would be whether or not you're able to still make HTTPS-only requests with the web browser on your desktop or laptop. It would take some evil hackery for them to be able to retrieve the user agent string from an HTTPS request.
See 14.43 of the HTTP 1.1 spec for a description of the user agent string.

Got around it by setting up an openvpn on cyanogen 6.1.0. Even if im not using tethering, im still gonna use openvpn for my data traffic, as they are probably using deep packet inspection, which means we no longer have any privacy on tmobiles network.
Im thinking about changing the default port to 443 so as far as they are concerned, im just browsing ssl sites on my phone (port 443 is the default ssl port for web browsing and openvpn uses ssl for encryption).
If you use this method, just be sure to reset you dns to to googles (8.8.8.8) otherwise they can still tell whether or not your tethering based on my experience.
Im seriously considering switching to sprint as i would actually be willing to pay for their tethering, i get 4g in my area and i have a lot of respect for sprint for not capping their 4g.
Maybe if tmobile offered more bandwidth or other features for their 15 bucks a month I would actually be willing to pay for it, but i AM NOT paying for data that I allready paid for. Data is data to them, my cap isnt changing, why should i pay more to pipe my data to my computer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but tethering for $15 essentially removes the 5gb throttled cap. Its the same as Sprint and their $10 fee. The 200mb plan is just a lower tier.
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JustinTArthur said:
An interesting test would be whether or not you're able to still make HTTPS-only requests with the web browser on your desktop or laptop. It would take some evil hackery for them to be able to retrieve the user agent string from an HTTPS request.
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Https to mail.google.com works just fine!
funkeee said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but tethering for $15 essentially removes the 5gb throttled cap. Its the same as Sprint and their $10 fee. The 200mb plan is just a lower tier.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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last time I was working the tmobile call-center for T3DS (spring 2010), the cap was 10GB. Although, that was nearly a year ago now. Samson had a lil' checkbox for "throttled" that was enabled at 10GB. perhaps a year and a half ago, maybe two now, they had disabled tethering previousy system-wide. Although back then I had a Motorola Krzr with no data, so I really had no clue what was affected.
The $15 thing is to enable tethering. two days ago it was offering me something around 40-50 dollars for "unlimited" (atop the $30 i pay for unlimited data), and $15 for 200MB (atop of the $30 i play for unlimited data). Of course, you must have a data-plan already in place. Looking at it again today, the page is different. It presents me with a mini terms of service, a button to add this package to my plan to enable tethering. No mention or word of cost.
And, visiting my.tmobile.com like it suggests... there's nothing on the official Tmobile website that I can find for the tethering package.
So, being the typical t-mo customer that I am, I called up the 1-800 number to whine and complain. I mostly want these annoying text-messages to stop. The rep said he could add on the tethering package for me, but I declined. He also offered to hand this over to his buisness group to see if these messages are being sent out in error.
TLDR: If I have to pay $85/mo minimum for smartphone with tethering abilities, i'd rather just give Verizon a call.

starnostar said:
Got around it by setting up an openvpn on cyanogen 6.1.0. Even if im not using tethering, im still gonna use openvpn for my data traffic, as they are probably using deep packet inspection, which means we no longer have any privacy on tmobiles network.
Im thinking about changing the default port to 443 so as far as they are concerned, im just browsing ssl sites on my phone (port 443 is the default ssl port for web browsing and openvpn uses ssl for encryption).
If you use this method, just be sure to reset you dns to to googles (8.8.8.8) otherwise they can still tell whether or not your tethering based on my experience.
Im seriously considering switching to sprint as i would actually be willing to pay for their tethering, i get 4g in my area and i have a lot of respect for sprint for not capping their 4g.
Maybe if tmobile offered more bandwidth or other features for their 15 bucks a month I would actually be willing to pay for it, but i AM NOT paying for data that I allready paid for. Data is data to them, my cap isnt changing, why should i pay more to pipe my data to my computer.
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I've never successfully set up openvpn before, could you assist with this? Or is there a guide you recommend for beginners?

work around
was cut off last night.
tried the "user agent switcher" plugin for firefox to see if they are blocking browsers rather than the tethering itself.
With limited testing, i found several agents that work. iphone 3.0 to name one... Now to figure a way to keep the web looking nice using these agents.

I just received my first text warning and was cut off immediately....the 5gig throttle was already a huge kick to my nuts...now they want me to pay to tether and still be under the same cap?! I hit 5gigs WITHOUT tether...I really don't know how tmo expects to keep any smartphone customers like this...
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The solution to this is very easy;
EVERYBODY needs to call up tmobile and tell them that you were NOT tethering, but changed the USER AGENT ON YOUR PHONE in order to make websites actually work since douchebag websites read that the user agent is for MOBILE and send you to their crippled mobile websites.

dhkr123 said:
The solution to this is very easy;
EVERYBODY needs to call up tmobile and tell them that you were NOT tethering, but changed the USER AGENT ON YOUR PHONE in order to make websites actually work since douchebag websites read that the user agent is for MOBILE and send you to their crippled mobile websites.
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Well... You can call them all you like. Previously working for a tmobile call-center, I can assure you little will be done. If I received the call, I would be opening up samson and checking your usage history. The billing system logs just about every bit of data transfered, although I cant remember if it lists URL's anymore. I would suggest telling them that you were tethering, decline on the upsell offer of the tethering package because you feel your "unlimited data" package actually means unlimited, then you can also tell them that it is interfering with the phones operation by itself even when you arnt tethering, and request some sort of further troubleshooting/ticket creation.
If you say you arnt tethering, but DID tether, we could usually see judging by how many connections were initiated over a period of time... There's only so much an android phone can do at once. Regardless, as a data/tech rep, the next step would be filing a network trouble-ticket and putting in your information for an "engineer" to review over. Theres little (if not nothing) for the follow-up/callback process. At this point I would be telling you an engineer/tech would review over it, and try to end the call by up-selling you a newer phone.
TLDR: Unless things have changed in the past year, You will only talk to customer-care rep's, and have no chance of getting your concerns to those who have any power over these decisions. However if you do call in, please be polite and patient with the rep. I've called in and informed them that these are being erroneously generated, and they've taken the time to make a ticket for me. (they were, I got 8 of the damned things while listening to pandora on my phone)

hauppage said:
Well... You can call them all you like. Previously working for a tmobile call-center, I can assure you little will be done.
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Not for a single call, but if EVERYBODY called and complained about it, it WOULD be dealt with.
If I received the call, I would be opening up samson and checking your usage history. The billing system logs just about every bit of data transfered, although I cant remember if it lists URL's anymore.
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Go ahead and check the usage history. A smartphone is capable of generating EXACTLY the same data use as a tethered computer.
I would suggest telling them that you were tethering, decline on the upsell offer of the tethering package because you feel your "unlimited data" package actually means unlimited, then you can also tell them that it is interfering with the phones operation by itself even when you arnt tethering, and request some sort of further troubleshooting/ticket creation.
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And that is EXACTLY what you do NOT want to do, because as soon as you do that, all discussion is over.
If you say you arnt tethering, but DID tether, we could usually see judging by how many connections were initiated over a period of time...
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That might have been the case in years gone by, but no longer.
There's only so much an android phone can do at once.
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Huh? The limiting factor here is the NETWORK, not the hardware. It is TRIVIAL to open up dozens of connections for lots of different services on lots of different servers. Just because it is beyond YOU does not mean that **I** can't do it.
Regardless, as a data/tech rep, the next step would be filing a network trouble-ticket and putting in your information for an "engineer" to review over. Theres little (if not nothing) for the follow-up/callback process. At this point I would be telling you an engineer/tech would review over it, and try to end the call by up-selling you a newer phone.
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And once that request has been filed, you don't think that statistics will be run on the nature of the various requests? 200 thousand complaints about this nonsense knocking out normal phone data traffic, you don't think that would be noticed?
TLDR: Unless things have changed in the past year, You will only talk to customer-care rep's, and have no chance of getting your concerns to those who have any power over these decisions. However if you do call in, please be polite and patient with the rep. I've called in and informed them that these are being erroneously generated, and they've taken the time to make a ticket for me. (they were, I got 8 of the damned things while listening to pandora on my phone)
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As I've said, numbers talk. I certainly don't advocate calling up and threatening anyone, but if the numbers are overwhelming, then corrective actions MUST be taken.

Please look at my post regarding T-mobile tethering
[/COLOR]I'm pretty sure I know what T-Mobile did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587#post26649587

Tethering GTag through BB BT...

Talked my buddy into a Gtab after giving him a test drive on mine...
1 problem, his smart phone is through Sprint and he uses a Black Berry.
He connects his LT to the internet with a USB cable and his BB.
I thought I could set him up through Bluetooth, but I cant figure out how to tether the connection.
I can "pair" the 2 together no problem, but I dont have a clue how to make the internet connection.
He uses a Sprint program on his LT, so I'm wondering if there's a program that would do the same on the Gtab...
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks in advance...

Ive tried to usb and BT tether with no luck so far....anyone have any success?

jamesgf said:
Ive tried to usb and BT tether with no luck so far....anyone have any success?
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I can get the 2 to "pair" without a problem, what I need is a terminal app to use the BB as a modem.
I know they do this on the iPad's all the time for the wifi only users.
I dont have enough experience with the Android OS to set this up.
I'm not even sure how to tether the Gtab to an Android phone.
Really need some help on this one or told it's not an option.
Thanks

As far as I know you can't do usb/bluetooth tethering atm . Unless someone manage to port over archos tethering protocol/tethering wizard.

[email protected] said:
I can get the 2 to "pair" without a problem, what I need is a terminal app to use the BB as a modem.
I know they do this on the iPad's all the time for the wifi only users.
I dont have enough experience with the Android OS to set this up.
I'm not even sure how to tether the Gtab to an Android phone.
Really need some help on this one or told it's not an option.
Thanks
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I don't think it's an option direct from the GTab to the BB. I've been trying to get this to connect with my Storm 2, and have had no luck at all with it. Like you, I can pair the devices, but they won't connect. The only tethering software I can see that was worth a shot was Tether, and they don't support BB to Android.
Someone else in another thread pointed out a possible solution, a Cradlepoint CTR-350 Cellular Travel Router. You can connect your BB to create the access point, then connect the GTab to the 350. Runs about $77.00 from what I can tell online.

Ronin916 said:
I don't think it's an option direct from the GTab to the BB. I've been trying to get this to connect with my Storm 2, and have had no luck at all with it. Like you, I can pair the devices, but they won't connect. The only tethering software I can see that was worth a shot was Tether, and they don't support BB to Android.
Someone else in another thread pointed out a possible solution, a Cradlepoint CTR-350 Cellular Travel Router. You can connect your BB to create the access point, then connect the GTab to the 350. Runs about $77.00 from what I can tell online.
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Hummmmm.... That might be a possibility.. Thanks...
Keep me posted if you try this out....

Does blackberry have any hotspot apps?
My wife uses a Nokia N97, and purchased the Joikuspot hotspot app. The G-tab can see the Nokia's hotspot once the ad-hoc wifi hack is installed.

Will do, but the more I look the more I like the CradlePoint PHS300 Personal Hotspot. Little more expensive, but might be worth it since it's battery powered.

Ronin916 said:
Will do, but the more I look the more I like the CradlePoint PHS300 Personal Hotspot. Little more expensive, but might be worth it since it's battery powered.
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Good point... I pulled the Cradlepoint 350 up on line and it was AC only...
I also like the suggestion about "HOT SPOT" app on the BB... Haven't checked that as of yet....
If we can get this through software, that would be so much better...
He uses a Sprint program on the laptop to connect so we know it has the
capabilities to work as a modem and he has internet access.
I'm wondering how the iPad folks use their phones to connect to the internet.
I know most have the WIFI only models and they tether through their phones.

He just ordered the 300.....
They are running a holiday special of $99 dollars and that includes a free second backup battery....
Regular price was over 200 with shipping.... Cost him 109 with shipping...
He figures he can use the hot spot for other users also. It supports up to 16 users at once.
His Sprint card was listed as a option so this is even a better solution.
Huge thanks for pointing us in the right direction.

[email protected] said:
He just ordered the 300.....
They are running a holiday special of $99 dollars and that includes a free second backup battery....
Regular price was over 200 with shipping.... Cost him 109 with shipping...
He figures he can use the hot spot for other users also. It supports up to 16 users at once.
His Sprint card was listed as a option so this is even a better solution.
Huge thanks for pointing us in the right direction.
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No problem, let me know how it works out.

pdanet for blackberry has bluetooth connection

jamonthis said:
pdanet for blackberry has bluetooth connection
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What app would you run on the Gtab to make the connection?

Bump...
Anyone have any more information on this, either the bluetooth pda net or using that 300?
Thanks!

Install pdanet and creat your hotspot. Once that is done go to your wireless setting and connect to the hotspot.

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Install pdanet and creat your hotspot. Once that is done go to your wireless setting and connect to the hotspot.
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??? I have PDANet on my Black Berry and PDANet on my GTab. On the BB, I selected Enabled Bluetooth DUN. The same thing for the GTab. Doesn't do anything.
I suspect both are listening for something to connect to them. Not sure how this is supposed to work.

I'm using it with wifi via my iphone...

Ah, that must be the key. You can't do it via bluetooth. You have to have a wifi connection to your phone.
The original posting asked how to do this via bluetooth.

PDAnet via usb requires a client on the client computer. I contacted PDAnet if they would create an android client for tablets and their answer, atleast for now, is we are SOL. Use BT DUN. But like the OP I cannot get my G tab to connect, only pair with my droid x or Aria. I don't know what is supposed to happen after turning on the BT DUN in PDAnet. Should the G tablet then be able to connect? Does some other software need to be run on the gtab to allow DUN connection?

VZW unlimited data hotspot - FoxFi

Wasn't sure how to title this one, really, and if it's deemed that it should be moved/deleted, feel free. Just wanted to drop down a note on here for other people who may be in the boat. I'm on an older unlimited plan (95 GB this month and counting, couldn't imagine that on a tiered plan holy F...) And coming from my rooted G2, I realized I was gonna be hurting for hotspot connectivity. I use it to pair off the Android in-dash in my car, to tether my PC at home for the LTE speeds for netflix, and general internet stuff. Naturally I tried turning it on to see, and sure enough, wouldn't turn on and directed me to customer service to provision. So I was trying to see what I could find out, and crossing my fingers that maybe someone would find a way to open up that. Quick search on the way home returned FoxFi, though PdaNet. now. I had never used it, but so far so good for Wireless tethering. Using it now. There's a button for a premium version, though limited info as to the difference. The free version I guess is supposed to stop after a preset time. However, I've been on for a good forty minutes as of now, and while a pop-up did show up on the phone (dunno when, I just happened to turn on the screen and saw it), the data is still going through fine regardless. Maybe a matter of time before it is updated to catch up? But even so, the paid is 8 bucks right now, and I'm thinking well worth it.. Just figured I'd let people know that it, as of now, is working fine for the S6 for wireless hotspot for Unlimited Data plans.
http://www.foxfi.com

Nice I have used it before but haven't in a long time I'll check it out and post my results here I just picked up the edge today ?

kenohki88 said:
Nice I have used it before but haven't in a long time I'll check it out and post my results here I just picked up the edge today
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Almost 2 hours straight with no drop, so I'm not complaining. 16 Mbps on a speedtest with half bars with the phone on the side, so I'm calling it a success lol. SOOOO glad it works, I was in a half-panic when it dawned on me that I wasn't hotspot-ed.

I have unlimited data from 2001 and hotspot is working for me.

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I have unlimited data from 2001 and hotspot is working for me.
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The native hotspot via the verizon app? Are you paying the extra fee for it?

mamba94 said:
The native hotspot via the verizon app? Are you paying the extra fee for it?
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FoxFi working fine for me as well. Glad it is was one of my worries as well.

So on FoxFi is that subscription message briefly blinking on then off and then the built-in tethering turns on? Or does the message stay on but tethering works anyhow?
I currently have a the Xperia Z3v and FoxFi fails to turn on the built-in tethering option until that message is able to be skipped. Sometimes it takes once, sometimes it takes 50 times but eventually I get the subscription message to just blink on then back off and eventually it forces the tethering on, no data throughput until the message goes away though.
Also are you guys using any hashcode in FoxFi to get it working? I had to use the hashcode TEST on previous Verizon devices to get it working.

CharlzO_2000 said:
Wasn't sure how to title this one, really, and if it's deemed that it should be moved/deleted, feel free. Just wanted to drop down a note on here for other people who may be in the boat. I'm on an older unlimited plan (95 GB this month and counting, couldn't imagine that on a tiered plan holy F...) And coming from my rooted G2, I realized I was gonna be hurting for hotspot connectivity. I use it to pair off the Android in-dash in my car, to tether my PC at home for the LTE speeds for netflix, and general internet stuff. Naturally I tried turning it on to see, and sure enough, wouldn't turn on and directed me to customer service to provision. So I was trying to see what I could find out, and crossing my fingers that maybe someone would find a way to open up that. Quick search on the way home returned FoxFi, though PdaNet. now. I had never used it, but so far so good for Wireless tethering. Using it now. There's a button for a premium version, though limited info as to the difference. The free version I guess is supposed to stop after a preset time. However, I've been on for a good forty minutes as of now, and while a pop-up did show up on the phone (dunno when, I just happened to turn on the screen and saw it), the data is still going through fine regardless. Maybe a matter of time before it is updated to catch up? But even so, the paid is 8 bucks right now, and I'm thinking well worth it.. Just figured I'd let people know that it, as of now, is working fine for the S6 for wireless hotspot for Unlimited Data plans.
http://www.foxfi.com
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How are you able to get the s6 and keep unlimited data? Best buy is not delivering the phones yet but I can understand if you have other lines then thats easier to get a phone and keep unlimited data. I guess I will have to wait till its available for shipping in order to keep udp.

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How are you able to get the s6 and keep unlimited data? Best buy is not delivering the phones yet but I can understand if you have other lines then thats easier to get a phone and keep unlimited data. I guess I will have to wait till its available for shipping in order to keep udp.
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In my case, I have three lines. Mine has unlimited, the other two lines are tiered. So I've been using their upgrades, and then swapping the phone over. My phone has been eligible forever, but I've made it very clear I do not intend to ever use it. And as soon as any rep questions it, they take one look at my usage and go "Oh... yeah, I see why you're staying on the old one". And even if I didn't have an upgrade available, I'd just buy it outright instead. Still a ton cheaper than paying the extra that I'd need for my use.

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In my case, I have three lines. Mine has unlimited, the other two lines are tiered. So I've been using their upgrades, and then swapping the phone over. My phone has been eligible forever, but I've made it very clear I do not intend to ever use it. And as soon as any rep questions it, they take one look at my usage and go "Oh... yeah, I see why you're staying on the old one". And even if I didn't have an upgrade available, I'd just buy it outright instead. Still a ton cheaper than paying the extra that I'd need for my use.
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Thanks for the reply. I will have to wait till best buy has them in stock for shipping.

lucky_strike33 said:
Thanks for the reply. I will have to wait till best buy has them in stock for shipping.
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Best Buy had shipping available for all the pre-orders. My Verizon S6 Edge 64gb gets delivered Wednesday and I get to keep unlimited. I'm sure they'll be shipping them again soon enough.

open1your1eyes0 said:
So on FoxFi is that subscription message briefly blinking on then off and then the built-in tethering turns on? Or does the message stay on but tethering works anyhow?
I currently have a the Xperia Z3v and FoxFi fails to turn on the built-in tethering option until that message is able to be skipped. Sometimes it takes once, sometimes it takes 50 times but eventually I get the subscription message to just blink on then back off and eventually it forces the tethering on, no data throughput until the message goes away though.
Also are you guys using any hashcode in FoxFi to get it working? I had to use the hashcode TEST on previous Verizon devices to get it working.
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Sorry, saw this late. When I go into the app, it doesn't do anything. You click on enable hotspot, it pops up a box that takes you to the Mobile Hotspot setting and you turn it on there (regular phone hotspot). That's all that it does. At that point, I just sit the phone down, and go about my way. Only once have I had it drop and then when I pick up my phone, it's just a notification that says "click here to reactivate internet" or something like that. I finally broke down and just paid the 8 bucks for it to get it out of the way, but even the "free" version let me stay online for quite a long period, even without the box coming up at all most of the time.

CharlzO_2000 said:
Sorry, saw this late. When I go into the app, it doesn't do anything. You click on enable hotspot, it pops up a box that takes you to the Mobile Hotspot setting and you turn it on there (regular phone hotspot). That's all that it does. At that point, I just sit the phone down, and go about my way. Only once have I had it drop and then when I pick up my phone, it's just a notification that says "click here to reactivate internet" or something like that. I finally broke down and just paid the 8 bucks for it to get it out of the way, but even the "free" version let me stay online for quite a long period, even without the box coming up at all most of the time.
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Do you by any chance subscribe to the Hotspot feature on your plan? Because on every other Verizon device there used to be a little box that popped up that says you must subscribe to turn it on. I'd be VERY surprised if Verizon forgot to add it here.

open1your1eyes0 said:
Do you by any chance subscribe to the Hotspot feature on your plan? Because on every other Verizon device there used to be a little box that popped up that says you must subscribe to turn it on. I'd be VERY surprised if Verizon forgot to add it here.
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I have unlimited data without the hotspot feature. When I try to use the built-in hotspot utility I get a message about needing to subscribe, however when I installed FoxFi it tells you to then go to the built-in hotspot and enable it, which works. However if you quit FoxFi and try again it fails, so FoxFi is doing something in the background that lets you use the built-in tethering feature.

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I have unlimited data without the hotspot feature. When I try to use the built-in hotspot utility I get a message about needing to subscribe, however when I installed FoxFi it tells you to then go to the built-in hotspot and enable it, which works. However if you quit FoxFi and try again it fails, so FoxFi is doing something in the background that lets you use the built-in tethering feature.
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Nice! That's really awesome to know it just works at stock without any hashcode. Totally different story on previous devices!

mamba94 said:
The native hotspot via the verizon app? Are you paying the extra fee for it?
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Nope. It just works using the native app

mzimand said:
Nope. It just works using the native app
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And you're on one of the old unlimited data plans?

open1your1eyes0 said:
Do you by any chance subscribe to the Hotspot feature on your plan? Because on every other Verizon device there used to be a little box that popped up that says you must subscribe to turn it on. I'd be VERY surprised if Verizon forgot to add it here.
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I don't subscribe to it as it doesn't really play well with my plan without making me switch lol. If I DON'T run FoxFi (sorry, the PdaNet+ app) prior to turning that on, it gives me the prompt to call to subscribe. However, after starting the app, it comes up and after enabling the FoxFi hotspot, it then allows you to turn on the system mobile hotspot without being prompted by the Verizon provisioning check. Basically, the app allows the hotspot to turn on without having to go through that check to Verizon first.

mamba94 said:
And you're on one of the old unlimited data plans?
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My plan is from 2003.

mzimand said:
I have unlimited data from 2001 and hotspot is working for me.
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mzimand said:
Nope. It just works using the native app
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mzimand said:
My plan is from 2003.
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I'm not sure if you're being intentionally vague/coy, but I think we are curious whether you are getting wireless hotspot to work natively even though you aren't paying for it. That wouldn't make much sense, but that's what you seem to be suggesting.

Android 9 update broke ability to Wifi Tether without root!

What a bummer! I used to use settings database editor to enable wifi tether. Worked fine. Android 9 broke this, now it says "a network issue may be preventing..." It does still turn on and my devices can connect to it, but no internet
This is so disheartening! Any solutions?

resinis said:
What a bummer! I used to use settings database editor to enable wifi tether. Worked fine. Android 9 broke this, now it says "a network issue may be preventing..." It does still turn on and my devices can connect to it, but no internet
This is so disheartening! Any solutions?
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Are you rooted?

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Are you rooted?
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no. But if I can root this thing and that allows me to enable thethering, then I will go that route.
Otherwise, I might just downgrade to 8.1. 9.0 doesnt seem to be any different anyway. And I need tethering... Like right now, I am trying to verify my VNC works from outside my LAN... I used to just connect my phone to my laptop and bam, I can prove it works from a different IP.
Freaking frustrating. Every version of android tries to lock down Wifi Tether. I paid for my 5GB allotment, why the hell do they care how I use it?

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no. But if I can root this thing and that allows me to enable thethering, then I will go that route.
Otherwise, I might just downgrade to 8.1. 9.0 doesnt seem to be any different anyway. And I need tethering... Like right now, I am trying to verify my VNC works from outside my LAN... I used to just connect my phone to my laptop and bam, I can prove it works from a different IP.
Freaking frustrating. Every version of android tries to lock down Wifi Tether. I paid for my 5GB allotment, why the hell do they care how I use it?
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Wait what carrier are you with? And simple to make more money you have your normal internet on your plan And then you have the 1-100GB for tethering that you can add on to your plan for a certain amount of money, me being in sprint on the highest plan I get 10GB for hotspot/tethering.

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Wait what carrier are you with? And simple to make more money you have your normal internet on your plan And then you have the 1-100GB for tethering that you can add on to your plan for a certain amount of money, me being in sprint on the highest plan I get 10GB for hotspot/tethering.
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I'm on cricket. Why would I pay extra to use the same 5GB that i never use up every month? It's stupid. You're right, it's a scam. That's why I want to hack the tether for free. I have always found a way to do it in the past... and it worked on this phone with android 8....

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I'm on cricket. Why would I pay extra to use the same 5GB that i never use up every month? It's stupid. You're right, it's a scam. That's why I want to hack the tether for free. I have always found a way to do it in the past... and it worked on this phone with android 8....
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FoxFi worked on Verizon till about 2 years ago when they caught on but you could try that app

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
FoxFi worked on Verizon till about 2 years ago when they caught on but you could try that app
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i tried. its not just a carrier block... android 8 worked fine with "settings database editor" app. after android 9 update it no longer works. I do get past the authorization check but then it pops up "something wrong with the network, check carrier"

resinis said:
i tried. its not just a carrier block... android 8 worked fine with "settings database editor" app. after android 9 update it no longer works. I do get past the authorization check but then it pops up "something wrong with the network, check carrier"
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There is a Magisk Module that supposedly works but you would have to personally check.

I upgraded my LM-V405QA to Pie and can native tether just fine. Since it is the unlocked version it does not perform any entitlement check.
It sounds like perhaps whatever you did to enable tethering on Android 8 no longer works the same way on 9, and that is why you get that message.
The module that @Ainz_Ooal_Gown mentioned does not appear in Magisk for me, however "MagiskHide Props Config" does. Using that you can set net.tethering.noprovisioning=true and reboot to bypass entitlement check.

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There is a Magisk Module that supposedly works but you would have to personally check.
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thanks. do you know if the ATT v40 is even rootable after the pie update?