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Hi everyone, right whoever has this HD7 can you tell me what its like? I'm really not sure if I should get this or the omnia 7, they both look great. Thanks for ya time.
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liverpoolfchero said:
Hi everyone, right whoever has this HD7 can you tell me what its like? I'm really not sure if I should get this or the omnia 7, they both look great. Thanks for ya time.
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I just picked up one, its sweet. Go into any mobile shop and give it a test drive. I love mine.

I have had the HD7 for 4 days now and I am very impressed, however I also recognise that WP7 is very much a version 1 operating system and there are still a) a few bugs (nothing catastrophic) and b) some missing features. The promise is here though so if you don't mind a bit of "early adopter pioneering" go get one

if MS does not deal with the missing features and the bugs SOON I am selling mine again.
to name a few:
- No manual IP on Wifi
- No own ringtones
- no .avi container support - synch of 350mb movie takes aprox. 20 minutes.
- everything over 20mb needs to go over the marketplace (what do i have an unlimited data plan for?)
- no usb-hdd support
- no copy&paste (personally not missing this though)
- no proper multitasking. you can go back, but how do you go forwards?
- ringer only vibrates once, email sounds delayed
... i could go on

pencilcase said:
if MS does not deal with the missing features and the bugs SOON I am selling mine again.
to name a few:
- No manual IP on Wifi
- No own ringtones
- no .avi container support - synch of 350mb movie takes aprox. 20 minutes.
- everything over 20mb needs to go over the marketplace (what do i have an unlimited data plan for?)
- no usb-hdd support
- no copy&paste (personally not missing this though)
- no proper multitasking. you can go back, but how do you go forwards?
- ringer only vibrates once, email sounds delayed
... i could go on
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What do mean by everything over 20Mb must go over the market place?

all downloads coming from the marketplace that exceed 20mb in size need to be downloaded with Wifi or over zune/cable.

pencilcase said:
all downloads coming from the marketplace that exceed 20mb in size need to be downloaded with Wifi or over zune/cable.
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I think you'll find this is not just WP7 Devices, all smartphones these days do that including the iPhones, I suppose it was to cut down on the traffic and stuff on our carriers networks that are already overloaded with stuff.
Not saying it's right but that's the way it is.

ThePhoenix2007 said:
I think you'll find this is not just WP7 Devices, all smartphones these days do that including the iPhones, I suppose it was to cut down on the traffic and stuff on our carriers networks that are already overloaded with stuff.
Not saying it's right but that's the way it is.
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Yeah, I remember reading somewhere about the carriers (including O2) having panic attacks about networks overloaded by legions of downloaders.

pencilcase said:
all downloads coming from the marketplace that exceed 20mb in size need to be downloaded with Wifi or over zune/cable.
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This is very unfortunate! With my former HTC Desire running a custom rom (DeFrost) based on the ofiicial Android 2.2, I could download 136 MB on 3G, it was DeFrost roms, with were available through his DeFrost setup Tools. I never had an issue because the download speed was crazy fast! But I had to be in an area of very good coverage (all signal bars in the green) to have it within 20-25 minutes (sometimes up to 40 minutes). I used to do it during lunch time and flash from sd-card on my way back to the office. It's the only feature I miss from the Desire: the simplicity of the flash process, provided you have a custom recovery image, in my case, Clockwork recovery image.
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I've had mine for just over a week now and am thinking about returning it and getting a Omnia 7 instead, It has that reset bug that HTC said about, and the physical buttons on it are extremely annoying, none of them have a 'click' to them so you can never tell if your pushing it enough to activate it, also you end up pressing buttons without even noticing, I often end up launching the camera just because my finger rests on the button and activates it for example.

i love my hd7 so much but i would say this, if i could swap it for a 16gb omnia 7 i still would but i could not live with only 8gb even if there would be a work around, and i am to impatient to wait and see if anyone will stock it.

i pre-ordered HD7 for US Tmobile but i'm considering to cancel it and wait for the dell venue pro
people who got the device, what would you do ?

I am very pleased with the hd7, the feel of quality in the hand, the superb big screen together with those 16gb give it the edge IMHO.

adesonic said:
I am very pleased with the hd7, the feel of quality in the hand, the superb big screen together with those 16gb give it the edge IMHO.
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This is also how I felt for the first couple days, but after you've had it for over a week like I have you might start to get frustrated with the problems I've had.

Milky1 said:
I've had mine for just over a week now and am thinking about returning it and getting a Omnia 7 instead, It has that reset bug that HTC said about, and the physical buttons on it are extremely annoying, none of them have a 'click' to them so you can never tell if your pushing it enough to activate it, also you end up pressing buttons without even noticing, I often end up launching the camera just because my finger rests on the button and activates it for example.
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Some other people have reported very "soft" hardware buttons (volume in particular) that are a bit mushy, and therefore hard to tell if you are applying enough pressure. Some people have swapped their HD7 for another one for this reason.
My own HD7 thankfully doesn't seem to suffer from this as the volume keys have a definite "click"-feel when pressed, so you can tell that you're pressing them right even if it's in your pocket.
Same with the camera button on mine; it's a 2-step camera button and you have to press fairly firmly to get the camera to activate. I've yet to accidently initialise the camera.
My HD7 is an O2 branded one in the EU with the dark gray chrome-like band. Perhaps the HD7s with the brighter chrome band suffer from this?

wheresmybeaver said:
Some other people have reported very "soft" hardware buttons (volume in particular) that are a bit mushy, and therefore hard to tell if you are applying enough pressure. Some people have swapped their HD7 for another one for this reason.
My own HD7 thankfully doesn't seem to suffer from this as the volume keys have a definite "click"-feel when pressed, so you can tell that you're pressing them right even if it's in your pocket.
Same with the camera button on mine; it's a 2-step camera button and you have to press fairly firmly to get the camera to activate. I've yet to accidently initialise the camera.
My HD7 is an O2 branded one in the EU with the dark gray chrome-like band. Perhaps the HD7s with the brighter chrome band suffer from this?
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Mine is O2 UK and it has a dark band, and every button is completely soft, I don't know if it would annoy everyone but it drives me insane.

Odd! Mine was an O2 one... the only mushy button was the camera button. Never accidentally launched the camera app, but the Search keeps randomly appearing.

Milky1 said:
This is also how I felt for the first couple days, but after you've had it for over a week like I have you might start to get frustrated with the problems I've had.
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thats EXACTLY my opinion

I evaluated the HD 7 and found the absence of adequate configurable options most disappointing.
1. Unable to disable the haptics (vibrate on key press)
2. Unable to configure own WiFi settings, which means NO access to known hidden networks such as mine at home.
3. Level of java application support unknown
4. Co-Pilot not supported with localised maps when travelling
5. No MicroSD memory expansion
6. No file browser
That was enough to put me off ... although it is a fast and sleek new interface almost mimicking the i-phone monkey-see-monkey-do interface (dummies phone but vastly improving on WinMo, although so many things have dropped away such as the wifi router etc.
A great phone, but not for someone expecting more from their phone out of the box such as the HD 2 for example.

[Q] Xperia T niggles list...

Hi all,
I've had my T for a week now after upgrading from an iPhone4. Originally I was eyeing up the 5 and the S3 then I spotted this little underdog that I hadn't even heard anything about. After scouting around for reviews it grew on me and after seeing it in the flesh I was sold and managed to get the last one in the Vodafone store.
I've never had an Android phone before, so I was a bit wary, but so far it is pretty much everything I expected it to be and I am really happy with it...
But I have spotted a few niggles and I'm wondering if other users have had noticed similar issues?
1) Auto brightness seems to jump around randomly at time and makes the phone look like either a. it's struggling to cope with what it's handling or b. it hasn't been implemented right and for some reason jumps between levels instead of smoothly raising or lowering the brightness. This doesn't happen all the time, mostly on the net, but I've also seen it while navigating the OS.
2) The camera is really slow to take any decent images. Quick launch boots to the camera pretty quickly but then it sits there trying to focus for the next few seconds and makes the quick launch seems pointless as it hangs fo so long after it has launched. Also any movement seems to blur the images pretty easily. Took pics of my 3 year old and my wife while we were bowling and even their arms moving as they walked back blurred!? The rest of the pic was great but it's not like they were running past the camera or anything.
3) When using Chrome does anyone else have it duplicate the last letter of every word you type? Alll off myy wordss weree lookingg likee thiss wheneverr II typedd anythingg. This wasn't happening anywhere else on the phone and after downloading FireFox I've got a decent browser, but I'm intrigued as to whether or not it was something I was doing?
4) Whenever I copy a video across I am only able to play 2-3 minutes of it even though it says that the file size is correct. All of my videos are .avi and whenever I try to copy them the phone my PC asks if I want to convert the files so that they are compatible with the phone. When I click yes my PC takes 45 min's-1hr to convert it and the file appears on my phone as a few hundred Mb but next to it the time dislpays 2-3 minutes duration. When you play it it cuts out at the 3 minute point. Is anyone else suffering this?
5) The storage capacity of the handset is only showing up as 10.8 Gb of which 1.08 is reserved space. Aren't these handsets meant to have 16Gb? Those figures are shown through the PC Companion and the settings tab on the phone.
So is anyone else experiencing the same niggles as above?
I still love the phone and I'm more than happy keeping it. I know some of the issues are down to my education but others definitely aren't and they'll end just being qwerks of the phone. If there's any way to resolve them then I'd be greatful to hear your solutions.
Cheers,
Stu.

Macflurry said:
5) The storage capacity of the handset is only showing up as 10.8 Gb of which 1.08 is reserved space. Aren't these handsets meant to have 16Gb? Those figures are shown through the PC Companion and the settings tab on the phone.
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That's 10.8GB for the data/storage partition. They left 2GB for app storage only. 13GB total after formatting + OS seems about right.

I have the duplicate letter/word, think it's a chrome thing.
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But I prefer it to my galaxys3
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I thought id ask this here..
Does anyone notice when playing back recorded videos on the device, there is a weird knocking / grinding sound while the lens is focusing?
I will upload a few videos, you can actually hear the device focusing, might be normal, but, it was never like this with my arc....its apparent on multiple set scenses, with both the UK Generic and UK O2 firmware.

I've not tested video recording yet, but the camera module is very close to the left microphone (the phone records in stereo). I am guessing you can hear camera noise on the left channel when playing back?

Macflurry said:
Hi all,
1) Auto brightness seems to jump around randomly at time and makes the phone look like either a. it's struggling to cope with what it's handling or b. it hasn't been implemented right and for some reason jumps between levels instead of smoothly raising or lowering the brightness. This doesn't happen all the time, mostly on the net, but I've also seen it while navigating the OS.
4) Whenever I copy a video across I am only able to play 2-3 minutes of it even though it says that the file size is correct. All of my videos are .avi and whenever I try to copy them the phone my PC asks if I want to convert the files so that they are compatible with the phone. When I click yes my PC takes 45 min's-1hr to convert it and the file appears on my phone as a few hundred Mb but next to it the time dislpays 2-3 minutes duration. When you play it it cuts out at the 3 minute point. Is anyone else suffering this?
Cheers,
Stu.
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#1 try an app called Lux.
#4, try using MxPlayer, not the stock player... Also you don't have to convert the files.

#1, my Galaxy Note was the same until an update. Remember this is a brand new device and the software will get better with time. Apple don't get it right either but that may have been because you were holding it wrong
papped said:
#1 try an app called Lux.
#4, try using MxPlayer, not the stock player... Also you don't have to convert the files.
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I'm using MX player and haven't had any problems regardless of what I throw at it (so far).
#5, a trick manufacturers use is to quote storage as 1000 bytes = 1kB, 1000kB = 1MB when the system reports actual memory based on 1024 bytes = 1kB, 1024kB = 1MB, etc so you get less reported than in the marketing specs.

Thanks for your input guys.
So far:
1) Autobrightness turned off and everything is good.
2) Still not too impressed with the camera. It takes too long to focus and do anything useful.
3) FireFox is still working perfectly compared to Chrome.
4) After deleting all the videos and copying them in from scratch, unconverted, they play perfectly with MX Player.
5) The memory thing makes sense but its a poor sales tactuc on the manufacturers part. In reality the customer is only concerned with how much useable memory a device has where in reality the Xperia T has a third less than you would expect. 1-2gb wouldnt be as bad but thus is over 5gb difference!!
Thanks again guys.

Noticed the camera lag seem slow when taking the pictures but whenever I look back on them they don't seem blurred.

So far I reckon Ive deleted between a third to half of my photos due to blurring.

Macflurry said:
So far I reckon Ive deleted between a third to half of my photos due to blurring.
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Might sound a silly question, but how are you taking the pictures?
I ask because I started off using the camera with the screen off and just pressing the camera button (utilising the quick shot feature). In this scenario I had blurry photos and rubbish results half the time.
I changed the camera button behaviour to just launch the camera app and then press it again (or use the on-screen button) and my photos have been good pretty much all the time.

Hold either camera button to focus.. I rarely get any blurry photos
Sent from my Xperia T

Quickshot seems borderline useless for image quality. But on standard photos after I wait for it to focus, even the slightest movement seem to really blur the image. On other photos it can take that long to focus that you miss your shot.
I've tried taking the ISO settings off auto today to see if that helps.
So far it's the only thing that I feel lets the phone down compared to what you would expect it to be like when you read the spec.

Macflurry said:
Quickshot seems borderline useless for image quality. But on standard photos after I wait for it to focus, even the slightest movement seem to really blur the image. On other photos it can take that long to focus that you miss your shot.
I've tried taking the ISO settings off auto today to see if that helps.
So far it's the only thing that I feel lets the phone down compared to what you would expect it to be like when you read the spec.
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The only other thing I can suggest is there might be a fault with your phone. Do you know anyone else with a T? Do you have the same problem if you take pictures with their phone?!

Hi,
great thread! This phone is one of my favourites now that I'm considering a new handset. Feel free to share any issues that those lucky enough to have one encountered. Thanks

emuX said:
The only other thing I can suggest is there might be a fault with your phone. Do you know anyone else with a T? Do you have the same problem if you take pictures with their phone?!
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I'm going to go and have a play with another one in the shop over the next few weeks when I find time just in case it is my phone but some how I just think it's the way it is.
So far it's my only remaining issue but it's not a deal breaker I still love the phone and look forward to JB next year.

Issues encountered so far

Hi,
I am seriously considering returning this. Its so nearly great but my unit is suffering from the following:
1. Stuck on Android 8 and Feb update. See seperate thread.
2. Touch screen touch sensitivity has some real issues. Scrolling around will occasionally "jump" or reverse direction briefly. I see this a lot on cheaper Android devices.
3. The default notification sound is a ringtone that goes on for 20 seconds approx. I have to change this for every type of notification for every app.. Its maddening.
4. Camera is... meh. Good for the price, but a long way off the top tier.
5. Auto brightness isnt good. Changes too fast, too often. Its all over the place.
UPDATE! 6. Developer Options seem totally broken. Settings dont persist or they do and the UI doesn't remember selections. What a mess.
NOTE - there are lots of positives, but these are well covered elsewhere.
All in all... this feels like any other cheap-ish Android phone. Needs updates, and dont kid yourself that this is the bargain of the century. Its good value, but its clear where compromises have been made.

Lot of bluetooth issues with 8.1. Sound is lagging when paired to my Sony WH-1000XM2. Other devices might loose connection after a while and needing to be re-paired.

RealEvil said:
2. Touch screen touch sensitivity has some real issues. Scrolling around will occasionally "jump" or reverse direction briefly. I see this a lot on cheaper Android devices.
3. The default notification sound is a ringtone that goes on for 20 seconds approx. I have to change this for every type of notification for every app.. Its maddening.
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2. Is the touchscreen a software issue?
3. Surely there has to be a better way of dealing with this notification ringtone? - Anyone got any ideas?

VonCrisp said:
3. Surely there has to be a better way of dealing with this notification ringtone? - Anyone got any ideas?
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For 3, I may have solved this myself - there is a default notification sound option which can be changed from the 20 (approx) seconds ringtone. I changed this and still got 1 of the long notifications, but the rest were normal.
As for 2), hopefully this is a software issue. The touch panel has a firmware version which is why I am so keen to get the 8.1 update (as it *may* have a newer version?) as mine is stuck on older software.

I have problems over several apps:
- Instagram no sound in stories
- Snapchat video quality is very very poor and pixilated
- Camera Zoom in Instagram, Snapchat and Whatsapp sometimes works and sometimes not.
- Stock Camera app, sometimes there are glitches when the camera is switching from wide to tele in lowlight.
- Playstore and Recent apps window sometimes lags
Anyone else experiencing those bugs?

zFr3eak said:
I have problems over several apps:
- Instagram no sound in stories
- Snapchat video quality is very very poor and pixilated
- Camera Zoom in Instagram, Snapchat and Whatsapp sometimes works and sometimes not.
- Stock Camera app, sometimes there are glitches when the camera is switching from wide to tele in lowlight.
- Playstore and Recent apps window sometimes lags
Anyone else experiencing those bugs?
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I just checked your first 3 issues, I don't have any of them. I didn't notice any glitches with the camera either yet, but I haven't tested it that much. Only thing is the lag when switching between recent apps, Playstore works fine though. Maybe try and clear the cache of the apps you have problems with? Or maybe you didn't update them?

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I just checked your first 3 issues, I don't have any of them. I didn't notice any glitches with the camera either yet, but I haven't tested it that much. Only thing is the lag when switching between recent apps, Playstore works fine though. Maybe try and clear the cache of the apps you have problems with? Or maybe you didn't update them?
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i just found out that my instagram audio is not working when i have my phone in vibration mode instead of ringing mode, although media volume is on max.
As soon as i change into ringing mode the sound in my instastories is working! Should be a software bug, but not sure if from instagram or nokia.
EDIT: are you able to do a smooth zooming in snapchat or only "1 step"? Because after reinstalling the app i was able to fully zoom in, exactly how i am used to it. Afterwards i started the stock camera app tapped the x2 button to zoom in. Then when i went back to snapchat i was only able to zoom "1 step" like i would press the x2 button in the camera app, instead of a continuous zoom.

My volume key temporary disabled after use instagram or some local apps. Uninstall TalkBack help me this. You guys who had trouble with sound should try.

I can agree to some of these issues.
The most annoying by far is the auto brightness. Sometimes when I unlock the phone it turns the brightness all the way down, even when I'm outside. Makes the screen all but unreadable. More interesting is that it makes the adjustment even though the auto-adjustment is turned off.
The bluetooth sound is choppy sometimes.
No complaints on the screen or the camera from me.

logon21 said:
My volume key temporary disabled after use instagram or some local apps. Uninstall TalkBack help me this. You guys who had trouble with sound should try.
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Infact uninstalling talkback and a few other useless apps solved my instagram problem with no audio in the stories! Thanks for that hint. :good:
Spionas said:
I can agree to some of these issues.
The most annoying by far is the auto brightness. Sometimes when I unlock the phone it turns the brightness all the way down, even when I'm outside. Makes the screen all but unreadable. More interesting is that it makes the adjustment even though the auto-adjustment is turned off.
The bluetooth sound is choppy sometimes.
No complaints on the screen or the camera from me.
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yeah, the auto brightness does not work as good as it should. Just had a 2 hours call with a bluetooth headset and everything was just fine! Maybe you could try a different protocol in the developer settings for bluetooth codec?

Hey everyone !
I received my N7P a few days ago and i noticed that everytime i record a video, this message pops up : "OZO audio is deactivated".
I live in France and this the European model.
Do you have the same problem ?
I noticed that they also removed the face unlock. Any news on that ?
Thanks for the support guys ! :good:

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Lot of bluetooth issues with 8.1. Sound is lagging when paired to my Sony . Other devices might loose connection after a while and needing to be re-paired.
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Hey, I am curious about how the WH-1000XM2 sounds in nokia 7 plus. Is it better or worse than your other devices except for the lag?

I'm in the UK, just the received the phone and am also stuck with the 8.0 + Feb security patch. It's saying I'm up to date.
Also, is anyone else's system storage taking up 14GB? Should it be that big? It's already using 22% before I've even installed an app. Tried a factory reset and same thing.

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I'm in the UK, just the received the phone and am also stuck with the 8.0 + Feb security patch. It's saying I'm up to date.
Also, is anyone else's system storage taking up 14GB? Should it be that big? It's already using 22% before I've even installed an app. Tried a factory reset and same thing.
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Same here with the system storage - 13 GB.

GREGDL08 said:
Hey everyone !
I received my N7P a few days ago and i noticed that everytime i record a video, this message pops up : "OZO audio is deactivated".
I live in France and this the European model.
Do you have the same problem ?
I noticed that they also removed the face unlock. Any news on that ?
Thanks for the support guys ! :good:
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Face unlock = trusted face?
You can find trusted face in Settings>Security & location>smart lock>trusted face

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Face unlock = trusted face?
You can find trusted face in Settings>Security & location>smart lock>trusted face
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I don't have that. Sure you didn't misread "trusted place"?

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Hey, I am curious about how the WH-1000XM2 sounds in nokia 7 plus. Is it better or worse than your other devices except for the lag?
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It is on par with my other phones as far as I can tell. Then again I'm not too picky on sound quality.

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I don't have that. Sure you didn't misread "trusted place"?
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Nope, but I am still on 8.0. May be different on 8.1?

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Nope, but I am still on 8.0. May be different on 8.1?
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8.1 here. Not there anymore.

Anyone know how to turn off 'vibration' when you unlock with fingerprint scanner?
Thanks

Why are you downgrading back to Oreo 8.1? Official pie issues thread

As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?

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As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!

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Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!
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Thanks for chiming in.

Yay...another Pie impressions thread.

I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?

Mwyann said:
I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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just flashed official yesterday but have been on Pie beta 2 for some time. I dont find it to be all that bad. I have heard of BT issues but have not had a chance to really test it out yet. That will be tomorrow. As of now i see no reason to move backwards.

I've been on Pie since Official, and haven't looked back!

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Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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Downgraded about a month ago never looked back or front however you want to put it!
Night mode it’s just a theme lol AOD had a bug or two your contact info or something like that wasn’t being shown! Alos just turn on blue light for night mode its easy on the eyes!
Tons of people have downgraded! ONE UI PIE 9 has been so rushed, it's like Samsung just make sure main things work and leave the actual stuff that us end user need to last or don’t even work..
i don’t think I’ll ever upgrade to ONE UI PIE 9 on the NOTE 9! I’m going to keep it on Oreo 8.1 and just get a NOTE 10 X for whatever o.s out then!
Note 9 runs awesomely on Oreo 8.1 what’s the point of upgrading ?

Constant bluetooth issues with my car caused me to downgrade, I agree ONE UI seems very rushed.,

Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.

Well, currently downgrading... Did all needed backups, now flashing ARL3 back, and getting ready to reinstall and reconfigure everything... for the better I hope *sigh*

Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.

Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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Well I prefer getting back features that I use often instead of OTA patches and fixes. I ran my previous phones on custom ROMs which didn't provide latest patches and I was very fine with it, because I had what I though was good for me And for now, in the state Pie is right now, I feel like Oreo is better for me. After a month on Pie, I don't enjoy using my phone as I did on Oreo, so I decided to revert

CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Personally I didn't encountered any issues, my beef is with the aesthetics, seems to me that they rushed it out, the GUI is horrendous, even adjusting the DPI in the screen settings leaves us with a big and unpolished interface, icons, notification bar and everything seems so over sized and tasteless.
Downgraded the next day, for now i'll stick to Oreo.

Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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If you rely on using bluetooth hands free talking in the car, that is reason enough to downgrade. Bluetooth phone calls simply do not work for most people in the official Pie update (worked fine in 8.1). This is a very important safety feature, not to mention in some states you cannot hold and talk on the phone while driving. Wonder if someone who gets a ticket will try to have Samsung reimburse them...

carlitos66 said:
Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.
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Yes those "ghey" icons. They are rubbish.
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Only reason I'm thinking about it is I miss having VoLTE. I have sprint and with oreo there was a work around to get it. Now the only half assed way to get it is to be on wifi calling then it'll work but only for that call

Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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I would like Bluetooth to work in my car and iconx buds. Constantly disconnects. I will definitely go back when the problem is fixed.
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What are the OTA packages we need to disable in package disabler pro to stop the OTA's from installing?

Only because there is no Xposed or Substratum system themes yet (I like dark themes, not black themes).

Question Terrible Video Call quality and Lags (whatsapp ,etc etc)

Hi Guys.
Despite this is a great device for some aspects it really disappoints in areas where nowadays phones should be shining.
Are you having this terrible blur from front and back camera during videocalls?
WhatsApp is literally embarrassing how bad it looks....
Tried Google meet,quality bit better but the videocall lags like crazy .
I have put the phone back in its box and I'm really torn to sell it.
Do you think this will be fixed over a software update?
I can't really understand how is possible a flashgip has left manufacture with this crazy problems on.
What do you guys think?
I have a UK Moto edge 30 ultra

cilikekko said:
Hi Guys.
Despite this is a great device for some aspects it really disappoints in areas where nowadays phones should be shining.
Are you having this terrible blur from front and back camera during videocalls?
WhatsApp is literally embarrassing how bad it looks....
Tried Google meet,quality bit better but the videocall lags like crazy .
I have put the phone back in its box and I'm really torn to sell it.
Do you think this will be fixed over a software update?
I can't really understand how is possible a flashgip has left manufacture with this crazy problems on.
What do you guys think?
I have a UK Moto edge 30 ultra
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are you sure you are using the default factory setting?
you can disable Video call effects and option for better usage or reset factory
However first try to disable video call effects

AHMN48 said:
are you sure you are using the default factory setting?
you can disable Video call effects and option for better usage or reset factory
However first try to disable video call effects
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Done that too.
No much of a change.
Is your videocall quality clean?
The difference from my s21 is night and day.

cilikekko said:
Done that too.
No much of a change.
Is your videocall quality clean?
The difference from my s21 is night and day.
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Yes mine is perfect

@cilikekko
There are some rare cases that these kind of problems get solved by cleaning / clearing cache and/or even restore to factory settings and then try again.
Now that you mention S21, i recently sold my S21 Ultra and got the Edge 30 Ultra. When i first got my s21ultra i had video tearing couldn't record propely and many more problems with video, even when trying to shoot pictures i had screen tearing like droppped frames. I tried my above instructions after the support told me to, without results. What i did, i re-firmware'd the device using their Sync tool on a windows virtual machine cause i'm not using windows.
So, try the above, and if not, figure out a way to re-firmware your device from scratch, it is what i'm suggesting. You may find yourself like @AHMN48 that his device works perfectly!

I can agree.Google Meet affected as well. Weirdly all youtube video in play store produce the same while no issues in the youtube app or browser. It should be a particular video format or profile