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Tempting Android N AOSP

Very tempted to update to Android N (Team FXP AOSP)
But I value my camera quality (Using DRM fix kernel, works great)
Knowing that the Xperia is never going to get android N, due to google removing the Z3's kernel from their source, would it be worth updating to AOSP, basically removing all the features that are so good?

You answered your own question, stick to stock if you want a camera that works 100% well. AOSP camera has never been good for any phone and the camera on Nougat barely works anyway.
Next best thing is Concept ROM, which still has a decent camera

I'm tempted to try Nougat AOSP. I don't mind losing the camera on Z3c that much since I prefer my camera on my G4. But I don't know how to install it. Is there a guide? That's up? Last time I checked Sony's site the guide was down.
Two qustions, how bad does the camera become, is it still usable for simple random snaps to send to friends on IMs?
What is DRM fix kernel?
TIA

Lol nougat barely works. I've been running it for days now. My opinion is nougat is excellent on z3c. I can upload a flash able zip with full Google apps if people are interested

mcgi5sr2 said:
Lol nougat barely works. I've been running it for days now. My opinion is nougat is excellent on z3c. I can upload a flash able zip with full Google apps if people are interested
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If that was a reply to me, I was referring to the camera

tomascus said:
If that was a reply to me, I was referring to the camera
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sorry pal.
camera isn't really use-able yet
everything else worked great

mcgi5sr2 said:
sorry pal.
camera isn't really use-able yet
everything else worked great
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Which android security patch is it on?
Battery life good?

BrotherZero said:
Which android security patch is it on?
Battery life good?
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I get a solid two days, and as a CoC player thats pretty dam good

mcgi5sr2 said:
I get a solid two days, and as a CoC player thats pretty dam good
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That does sound good. Get 6-8h SOT with SLiMM ROM. Do you know how much you get on this one?
Also could you do me a favour and check which Android Security Patch it got? It would be awesome if PA is up to date with that.
TIA

BrotherZero said:
That does sound good. Get 6-8h SOT with SLiMM ROM. Do you know how much you get on this one?
Also could you do me a favour and check which Android Security Patch it got? It would be awesome if PA is up to date with that.
TIA
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Security patch is September. Its built off the main branch of AOSP google sources. So security will always be uptodate

mcgi5sr2 said:
Security patch is September. Its built off the main branch of AOSP google sources. So security will always be uptodate
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Thanks, mate! might give this a try then. Shame abut the camera, but I guess ill found out how unusable is. Hopefully there is a fix soon.

Sony fix the AOSP camera if they wanted to?
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mcgi5sr2 said:
Security patch is September. Its built off the main branch of AOSP google sources. So security will always be uptodate
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Please could provide a link to the Rom Nougat 7.0

Can you please share the gapps, or tell me which ones you are using? I got cm gapps or open gapps from cm website (for 7.0) and my google play services keep crashing.
Thanks,
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Lol nougat barely works. I've been running it for days now. My opinion is nougat is excellent on z3c. I can upload a flash able zip with full Google apps if people are interested
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/user/?w=settings-dev-files&flid=73595
Is where I am posting all the builds I put together. So be warned that if it doesn't boot it was just a test version. AFAIK the latest ROM should boot fine without issue. GApps are already installed on all the flashable zip versions in that location

mcgi5sr2 said:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/user/?w=settings-dev-files&flid=73595
Is where I am posting all the builds I put together. So be warned that if it doesn't boot it was just a test version. AFAIK the latest ROM should boot fine without issue. GApps are already installed on all the flashable zip versions in that location
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Hey thanks. Quick question, you said you have been running nougat on your device and everything (but the camera) seems to be working. I just installed it last night (and my gapps are working as well now) and I already noticed a couple of bugs. First and most important, i can't hear the person on the other end of the line. It appears that my earpiece is not working. The person on the other end can hear me, but I can't hear that person. Second and minor issue, once i plug in my z3c to charge, the battery icon top right shows the charging sign as it should. However when i unplug, that charging sign doesn't go away. So far i have noticed these bugs, can you confirm if you are not facing these bugs (so I know its my device that is messed up).
Thanks,

flintfirewalker said:
Hey thanks. Quick question, you said you have been running nougat on your device and everything (but the camera) seems to be working. I just installed it last night (and my gapps are working as well now) and I already noticed a couple of bugs. First and most important, i can't hear the person on the other end of the line. It appears that my earpiece is not working. The person on the other end can hear me, but I can't hear that person. Second and minor issue, once i plug in my z3c to charge, the battery icon top right shows the charging sign as it should. However when i unplug, that charging sign doesn't go away. So far i have noticed these bugs, can you confirm if you are not facing these bugs (so I know its my device that is messed up).
Thanks,
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Hi!
I'm using the latest AOSP for our devices, and facing thiese bugs too. ( 20160912 ). Sometimes I've got calling bug when I can't hear the other person on the line, but he can hear me. Just a restart solves it, but I've got thiese problem nearly evry tenth call time... And one more thing, while i'm on calling and my phone set to minimum volumes, everyone else could to hear my phones speak... or I can say it, what you're talking about. Like when i set the speak to a loudspeaker, as though it were the whole conversation. The speakers are very loud on minimum volume, and not too much louder on maximum settings. ( but, i think they are a known bug ).
Second, the cahrging icon. Yes I experienced it too, when you disconnect the charger from the phone, the icon remain the same, like when the charger plugged in.. And I think, something gping on the background, because my battery goes down nearly 30 percent by a night ( 8h ).
About the rom speed. I think, it runs very smooth / fine until more than five software parallel, ROM while fast. If more than five program run in the background, ROM start to tear, slow down. If you delete them from the memory, the system will be fast again.
I tried to take a logcat with "aLogcat" from playstore, but it's not working. I remember it from my previously phone age, i must convert it to system app... But now, I can't do this, because i did it with Titanium Backup, and now they not support andoid N..
Anyway, I think its will be a very good AOSP rom... ( without camera :/ )

Best Nougat ROM

Hi guys,
According to you, which is the best nougat ROM now for daily use? Which the more smooth and stable? Which would you advise?

In my opinion, Resurrection Remix developers have been working very well with their ROM. The new RR 5.8.1 satisfied me a lot, but I cannot live without the theme engine/manager that the CM left behind. So now I'm on CM 13 again, waiting for news about a stock themer instead of using substratum.

Agreed. I personally don't see the problem with substratum, but RR is definitely the best!

What do you think about lineage OS? Is it still too buggy? What are the main differences between RR and CM/Lineage?

I'm vote for Mokee

I tried RR and it was unusable for me. Having like 4 reboots in less than 2 mins is not cool. Idk if I'm at fault but I clean flashed so I'm not looking back there

number32 said:
Hi guys,
According to you, which is the best nougat ROM now for daily use? Which the more smooth and stable? Which would you advise?
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In my opinion, RR is the best!

Tesla vs RR.. What is the best?

LineageOS latest nightly build.

For me, last releases of Lineage OS and AOSP extended with Open Gapps stock work fine :good:

Steph310 said:
For me, last releases of Lineage OS and AOSP extended with Open Gapps stock work fine :good:
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Last time I flashed AOSP extended I couldn't disable MPdecision or mount /system as R/W, which was pretty annoying and deal-breaking. I hope the latest releases have changed this but I'd go with lineage or RR just to be sure.
I'd still recommend RR though, for the superior optimisation and feature set

Personally,RR would be the best.

Ok, thanks to everybody!!! ?
Just another question: how does doze work on these nougat ROM? And what about battery drain and life?

Doze and battery life are totally fine as long as I don't activate screen-off hotword detection.
It lasts way longer than stock ROM for me, at least 4 hrs SOT on a full charge, not holding back on any feature (to be honest, though, I only activate location and screen-off hotword when I need them, which is when I'm moving around by bicycle or car)

Flipz77 said:
Doze and battery life are totally fine as long as I don't activate screen-off hotword detection.
It lasts way longer than stock ROM for me, at least 4 hrs SOT on a full charge, not holding back on any feature (to be honest, though, I only activate location and screen-off hotword when I need them, which is when I'm moving around by bicycle or car)
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Which ROM do you use?
EDIT: sorry, now i've seen you just told me it ?

RR for the win

Flipz77 said:
Doze and battery life are totally fine as long as I don't activate screen-off hotword detection.
It lasts way longer than stock ROM for me, at least 4 hrs SOT on a full charge, not holding back on any feature (to be honest, though, I only activate location and screen-off hotword when I need them, which is when I'm moving around by bicycle or car)
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How do you disable screen-off hotword?

xabr3 said:
How do you disable screen-off hotword?
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It depends on the method you used to enable it.
I did this with a free automation app (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71090273&postcount=681)
which lets you disable/enable scripts in two clicks

Gracias ... Probaré

hallo, in my opinion best 7.1.1 rom is XOSP, sony xperia rom, it has different design and it is not borable, because almost all 7.1.1 rom is same insade, so my vote going to this rom, just it has a few bugs, hope them will fixed soon, thanks
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xosp-7-1-t3525917

What is the fastest and most reliable custom ROM out there?

Since I've been growing more and more tired of my Moto X over the past months, I decided to go ahead and try some custom ROMs in the hope of retrieving even a part of its former snappiness cause now, most of the time, it's literally unbearable to use the device because of how sluggish it had become (and I've tried every trick in the book to fight this off - clearing cache partition regularly, doing wipe and restore, freeing up storage). What I'd like from the custom ROM, then, is just for the phone to be as fast as it still can be and it would be great if the ROM was also a reliable one cause there's no much use in speed if the phone freezes for good or restarts thrice a day. Some help in regards to the battery life would be a nice touch too, but I know I can't transform my phone into a new flagship through firmware alone so that's not a must
What would you recommend? I heard good things about LineageOS - is it the best choice or is there something better that ticks all the boxes?

I've been using RR and it's very good. Yesterday I've flashed mokee oreo 8.1 and it's all ok too, but nfc and HDR doesn't work.
But I've never had the phone to work bad like you say.
Try mokee, battery life Is better, and it's fast.
Try RR, lots of customization and it's fast too.
RR: resurrection remix. Android 7.1
Sorry for my english, I'm not a native speaker.

RR final version is the best go to for me.
No bugs at all and lightning fast.
You ll not regret it.

MK8.1 NIGHTLY 030318... so far so good

[LineageOS] Stutter or lag when swiping or scrolling

Hi. I flashed LineageOS 16 recently (clean flash) and the ROM is really good in a lot of aspects, I'm really digging it. But something that bothers me is that sometimes when scrolling through an app or swiping (like on Instagram) there's a noticeable frame drop or stutter. Interesting enough, it happens only on certain apps and moments and not always but it's enough to bother me since stock was so smooth (coming from Oreo Stock).
Is it something that normally happens with this phone? If so, is there a fix for it? Maybe a Magisk module or something.
I appreciate your help, thanks in advance.

For the stutter and performance issues, I recommend the LKT magisk module. I personally use the performance preset on lineage os, and it works fine.

T1Coreon said:
For the stutter and performance issues, I recommend the LKT magisk module. I personally use the performance preset on lineage os, and it works fine.
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I mean, it does work but not to the extent I'd like. Isn't Moto X4 capable of handling this ROM? Or is it something else's fault?

You're not alone, I've had the exact same experience.
The fist post in the LOS thread says to use Oreo firmware. Not sure of that is no longer correct since it's LOS 16 which is Pie.
I ended up going back to stock Android One.
Out of curiosity do you have a 3GB ram or 4GB ram version?

cdkg said:
You're not alone, I've had the exact same experience.
The fist post in the LOS thread says to use Oreo firmware. Not sure of that is no longer correct since it's LOS 16 which is Pie.
I ended up going back to stock Android One.
Out of curiosity do you have a 3GB ram or 4GB ram version?
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I have the 3GB version. However, I almost sure it's not a RAM issue since one of the things LOS does very good is keeping apps in the background, actually in that regard is better than stock IMO, though I've only tried stock Oreo on this phone.
This problem is a little one but it annoys me quite a bit since when I was running stock ROM the overall performance was always snappy. I should try wiping cache/dalvik with TWRP but I haven't had the chance atm.
BTW, how's stock Pie? I'm curious.

I have found that if you go into developer options and disable HW overlays, that fixes it. However, for some reason, that setting seems to revert back after some time. So that might be a bug.

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I have the 3GB version. However, I almost sure it's not a RAM issue since one of the things LOS does very good is keeping apps in the background, actually in that regard is better than stock IMO, though I've only tried stock Oreo on this phone.
This problem is a little one but it annoys me quite a bit since when I was running stock ROM the overall performance was always snappy. I should try wiping cache/dalvik with TWRP but I haven't had the chance atm.
BTW, how's stock Pie? I'm curious.
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I really like the most recent stock FI PPW29.69-39-1. It's pretty snappy and the double-tap-power-button- to-open-camera works faster than previous builds.

Im seeing some pretty poor UI performance as well. Especially in Firefox and K9 email. I didn't see any strain in the CPUs (none went over 20% utilization while I was experiencing the lag). LOS 16 is pretty young, might be some optimations just aren't there yet? Today's changelog was dense so people are absolutely working hard on it.
Edit: FWIW Firefox and k9 are slow on Havoc as well but Havoc's performance has been otherwise stellar. 3D performance included.

i noticed it only happen when battery saver is on. try it

Activate Developer Options, set all values for animation times to zero, phone is more fluent afterwards.

General [ROM][12]Pixel Experience

**Edit** Post taken down**
Look for Senior Member/Dev(s) post for A12L(great job on PE+)

Esb1809 said:
Haven't seen any posts or heard anyone mention it yet but Pixel Experience on 5a is now official build(link below). Flashed it last night from A13 DP1 & pretty damn happy with all aspects (stability, set-up, looks/feel)
https://download.pixelexperience.org/barbet
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Thank you for posting new rom link. What differences you noticed between this rom and stock? Is battery life better?

pawlik79 said:
Thank you for posting new rom link. What differences you noticed between this rom and stock? Is battery life better?
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Honestly, for 90%+ of things/time it's almost identical to stock with tiny tweaks here & there. Biggest difference by far is exactly what they advertise as having... STABILITY. It just feels like a rock solid mirror image of A12 on a Pixel which is exactly what I was looking for, Magisk can tweak the rest.
For battery life, seems like it's definitely on par or better but I run LSpeed on all my devices so that's just my opinion, no proof.

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Haven't seen any posts or heard anyone mention it yet but Pixel Experience on 5a is now official build(link below). Flashed it last night from A13 DP1 & pretty damn happy with all aspects (stability, set-up, looks/feel)
https://download.pixelexperience.org/barbet
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Finally got this flashed with twrp and it's very stable. Passes safetynet out the box without magisk and face unlock is a nice addition. Hopefully they make an official thread for it soon

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Finally got this flashed with twrp and it's very stable. Passes safetynet out the box without magisk and face unlock is a nice addition. Hopefully they make an official thread for it soon
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+1. I additionally flashed with fsociety tribute kernel and love it.

flashed with unoffical twrp in adb sideload gave errors but i just ignored them. booted up no problems. went through setup. rebooted back to bootloader flashed fsociety tribute kernel with unoffical twrp adb side load. so far no problems.
anyone know how to get magisk to work?

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flashed with unoffical twrp in adb sideload gave errors but i just ignored them. booted up no problems. went through setup. rebooted back to bootloader flashed fsociety tribute kernel with unoffical twrp adb side load. so far no problems.
anyone know how to get magisk to work?
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Reboot to twrp and adb sideload magisk.apk

interesting. i always changed magisk.apk to magisk.zip and tried to flash it. never tried adb sideload the magisk.zip. worked like a charm. thanks! now it makes me want to reroot my nvidia shield.

i was actually surprised how easy it was to compile their rom. their instructs are fairly straight forward. skipped the ccache stuff first time. 2nd time i enabled it with compressing made it a little slower. compiled on debian 11 both times with no problems. process is long with the ccache and compression. 1hr 30min to 1hr 40min on my duel cpu 32 cores total running at 3.6ghz and 160gb of memory with a wd sn750 1tb nvme drive.
i think i have found rom that i will stick with until a really customized one comes along. barely any google garbage loaded on it. anything else i can root with magisk and use system tools android to strip out the few remaining google garbage apps.
best part is it's on A12 so the unoffical twrp seems to work without too many problems.

rchris494 said:
i was actually surprised how easy it was to compile their rom. their instructs are fairly straight forward. skipped the ccache stuff first time. 2nd time i enabled it with compressing made it a little slower. compiled on debian 11 both times with no problems. process is long with the ccache and compression. 1hr 30min to 1hr 40min on my duel cpu 32 cores total running at 3.6ghz and 160gb of memory with a wd sn750 1tb nvme drive.
i think i have found rom that i will stick with until a really customized one comes along. barely any google garbage loaded on it. anything else i can root with magisk and use system tools android to strip out the few remaining google garbage apps.
best part is it's on A12 so the unoffical twrp seems to work without too many problems.
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How is the battery life? I have tested for a week and the battery life is not that great

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How is the battery life? I have tested for a week and the battery life is not that great
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i stripped out a lot of apps. chrome, play store ar, calendar, digital wellbeing, pixel launcher (replaced with nova 7), gboard (replaced with openboard), safety, record, android auto (worthless i drive a 78 k10 and have a 2 knob radio), google support services (backdoor for google) and a few other useless apps that i can't think of at the moment. all can be removed once rooted with magisk and i use system tools android (the only app i have found that removes them and not hides them) to strip out the system apps. i use greenify (gotta get the beta from app mirror to use it on 12) to kill the apps as soon as the screen shuts off. i loaded fsociety tribute kernel. no tweaks i think i bumped the max cpu 24 mhz just to smooth it out a little more. i don't use the phone a lot. connected to wifi most of the time. gone from 100% to 77% in 22hrs about. i have only had the rom installed for a little over 24hrs. the battery drain seems about the same as stock. i did a dirty flash of my build of pixel experience and had to reroot in that 22hrs. so most of that 22hrs is standby time. mostly i check my miner and the price of crypto every so often and clean up my junk emails.
i guess i will know more as the week goes on. i usually get about two days of my type of usage before i get down to about 36% or so and charge again.
my main reason for switching is because i could not update any apps on the stock rom. if i updated messages. the keyboard would disappear or not show up. just before i flashed to this one. i would get the text message notice and when i went to the app. there was no new message. i would have to close and reopen the app to see the message, maps if i started a nav and because i use 3 button gestures. i couldn't close maps when i was done or it would split screen and hang up so you couldn't use the phone. phone and contacts app would work about 1/2 the time. camera app i would be lucky if it opened. problem with all of these apps for me have been going on since the A11 first release. i kept flashing new stock rom after stock rom hoping they would fix their garbage rom. that never happened. it got worse not better each factory rom flash. not really a LineageOS fan. nothing wrong with it. just its on A11 and the unoffical twrp seems to work a lot better on an A12 so i figured i would give this one a shot.

Anyone else having any form of A12/L/QPR3/ROM reduce their WiFi features down to just a toggle that, in true Google fashion, doesn't seem to toggle anything??
After the enjoyable game of "who gets pissed & hangs up on who first", I know it's baffling the hell outta whatever grade school they outsourced their tech support to..

Updated to 2022/3/30 build using updater. Stuck at 50% finalizing update. After uninstalling Magisk finalizing update was completed. Reinstalling and patching boot.img to get root back caused boot loop. What did I do wrong?
EDIT: forgot to add that used factory img from previous February build to patch. Do boot.img change every build?

Esb1809 said:
Haven't seen any posts or heard anyone mention it yet but Pixel Experience on 5a is now official build(link below). Flashed it last night from A13 DP1 & pretty damn happy with all aspects (stability, set-up, looks/feel)
https://download.pixelexperience.org/barbet
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The question is, there are headphones, they have support for aptx adaptiv, a Google pixel 5a phone, the processor supports the codec, but there is no support in the system, can the PE developer include this codec in the firmware?

fackstrot said:
The question is, there are headphones, they have support for aptx adaptiv, a Google pixel 5a phone, the processor supports the codec, but there is no support in the system, can the PE developer include this codec in the firmware?
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I'm not affiliated with PE ROM in any way, other than posting the link to give people an option besides LOS18.1, so that'd be a question for the dev(s).
I know there were a few Magisk modules floating around on Github but support for A12+ would be the kicker, could be a quick fix...
**Also PE+ should drop any day now for the Pixel 5a but haven't had time to actually read up on what's different with PE vs PE+**

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The question is, there are headphones, they have support for aptx adaptiv, a Google pixel 5a phone, the processor supports the codec, but there is no support in the system, can the PE developer include this codec in the firmware?
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you probably would get a better answer to that question in their telegram group. as this thread is started by a regular user not one of their developers.