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What has your experience been?
Does one do something better or different than the other?
There should be an expansive list of instructions for both!
Maybe it's just personal preference....
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skinnytoo2 said:
What has your experience been?
Does one do something better or different than the other?
There should be an expansive list of instructions for both!
Maybe it's just personal preference....
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Use both. Bixbie is good for system stuff, Google assistant is good for everything else like looking up stuff or things on the internet
I wake up screen with Bixby and for most of the other stuff use ok google
Can you reprogram the bixbi button to
Single press open bixbi
Double press open Google assistant
Press and hold take a photo?
Here a decent video :
https://youtu.be/R3OOsNZ7Y-g
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I suggest you to watch this video. It shows what Bixby can do that Google Assistant can't, and at beginning clearly states that you really shouldn't compare them.
Of course Google Assistant will be better finding information from web, but Bixby kills it when controlling the phone. Two different assistants for two differed jobs.
I vote for Bixby AND Google Assistant
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Dz3QNy-gU
Using the phone. Bixby. When it comes to looking up just about any bit of information: Google Assistant. The only thing Bixby is good for is if you ask it to search the internet for a specific set of keywords or a phrase. And even then, it's only about equal with Google Assistant. But it won't answer simple, direct questions like GA. I don't know why these two things are being directly compared.
I'm hopeful that Bixby will be able to do what GA can do, though. But I think Google has quite a huge advantage there considering the data it has about how people search for information.
I compare them because one stop shopping beats two stop shopping. It would be nice just to deal with one AI especially in consideration of the fact that they are increasingly becoming trainable and they are also massively invasive in terms of privacy. I figure the latter horse is already out the barn but there is no reason to sell yourself out more than necessary.
All in all I see little need for a lot of what Bixby does well, I'm never going to use it to swipe right for instance or any of its other similar capabilities, on the other hand voice commands I actually do use like setting timers and alarms work just fine with GA and it's much faster. Right now I see that button going unused and eventually getting remapped until Bixby becomes a more compelling choice.
So I still don't really understand if Bixby can pull stuff up on the web?
I was hoping for one assistant that can do both . Hopefully Bixby development will enable that for us Note8users
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What has your experience been?
Does one do something better or different than the other?
There should be an expansive list of instructions for both!
Maybe it's just personal preference....
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Use both.
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gingi999 said:
Can you reprogram the bixbi button to
Single press open bixbi
Double press open Google assistant
Press and hold take a photo?
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yes you can by using bx actions and bk disabler (Samsung variant)
in BK disabler search bixby and disable everything except bixby voice (some reason this needs to be running )
once you do that go onto bx actions and set it up (you do need to use ADB but it tells you exactly what to do on first run)
ive got mine set to single click nothing long click google assistant and double click camera
personally i see no real use to bixby had a play with it and in reality for how i use my phone it does nothing that google assistant don't already do (each to their own on this, its just how i personally use my phone)
hope this helps
I'm using both, they work well together.
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I'm using both, they work well together.
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Same. Using both is working pretty well for now.
Still wish Microsoft would take the training wheels off Cortana for Android. She's the main thing I miss from my Lumia Icon.
Screw it. I'm gonna roll with Bixby for the next week and see how things go.
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Screw it. I'm gonna roll with Bixby for the next week and see how things go.
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At the very least, use Bixby to get free money from Samsung Pay.
The way I see it, Bixby is good for controlling your phone without the need to touch it (basically another form of input other then touch). Everything else GA dominates for now. I've been using both. Bixby is great for handsfree control while driving. Also a handy backup if you breaK your screen and lose touch input until you can have it repaired.
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I've found they work great as a team together.
I use Bixby to control things inside the phone. Things such as making calls to contacts, changing settings, setting reminders and alarms, and controlling my music.
I find Google to be great at handling things that happen outside my phone. Calling businesses that are not in my contacts is a big one. Also most of my street navigation, shopping, and search needs.
They both seem to excel in thid manner for me working as a team. I'm new to Bixby and still watching some YouTube to find out more what it can do.
On a final note, I am still not comfortable talking to my phone as much as others. It's great when I'm alone in my car or home; but, I just feel silly talking to my phone with my family or coworkers around. Also, it seems to me it would annoy others for me to be using my voice to do things I can do quietly.
I love Bixbys idea when it works. A lot of times I have to repeat myself and only works when I hold down the Bixby button. When I try to use the "hi bixby" command it always end up with connection error.
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Well something is buggy on my end. I've created 5 quick commands and for some reason one of them gets stuck after the first or second item in the list of commands it needs to execute. I have a "car mode" type of thing where when I'm about to head out my WiFi turns off, BT turns on, screen brightness turns up to 100%, AOD turns on and finally screen locked. It does this just fine but then when I get home the quick command to basically do the opposite of this gets stuck. Like the Bixby icon shows and the list appears but nothing happens. My other quick commands work fine but this one in particular is acting all wonky.
I'll keep playing around with Bixby but right now I'm not seeing a large improvement to my daily habits. I seem to be able to do things that I want to do much quicker than the speed Bixby performs at. I think eventually I'm just going to go back and keep Google voice search (not Google Assistant) as my default. That can open apps and can launch navigation destinations which is all I need whilst I'm in the car. For every other time I'm good just performing the actions myself instead of relying on Bixby.
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I've found they work great as a team together.
I use Bixby to control things inside the phone. Things such as making calls to contacts, changing settings, setting reminders and alarms, and controlling my music.
I find Google to be great at handling things that happen outside my phone. Calling businesses that are not in my contacts is a big one. Also most of my street navigation, shopping, and search needs.
They both seem to excel in thid manner for me working as a team. I'm new to Bixby and still watching some YouTube to find out more what it can do.
On a final note, I am still not comfortable talking to my phone as much as others. It's great when I'm alone in my car or home; but, I just feel silly talking to my phone with my family or coworkers around. Also, it seems to me it would annoy others for me to be using my voice to do things I can do quietly.
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Same way I use mine.
And I also don't want to be the douchebag talking at his phone in public, so I usually hold the phone up to my head as if I'm making a call, hold the Bixby button and quietly/softly say the commands. Works almost all the time as long as I don't dial it down to a whisper. What's more embarrassing is when it answers back in public.
In order from most annoying:
Cannot whitelist k9 mail (and other things) from power saving (this is a deal breaker, I'm taking it back)
Long press to select text instead of double click (vanilla android allows both) (almost a deal breaker)
Media volume cannot be increased without acknowledging warning when BT connected
Can’t disable bixby button without samsung account
No root (needed to run webserver on 80 and change iptables)
Fingerprint sensor hard to find, hard to touch (compared to nexus 6p)
Default phone app sucks and can’t be changed
-Notifications for blocked numbers calling
-Hard to block numbers
-Hard to add recent calls to contacts (uses wrong account or something)
Volume buttons hard to find, on wrong side of phone
Samsung sms app is ugly and horrible (replaceable)
Samsung calendar app does not allow multiple default reminders (replaceable)
Lock screen time is on multiple lines with no way to change it
Thats nice. Enjoy.
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bleh bleh bleh
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Where is the question? Wrong forum, maybe you should tell someone who cares?
Um, what phone is this, half the things you complain about can be done by the note 8, so must be another phone. Maybe he got the wrong forum...
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Incorrect, but whatever. Pixel2 XL coming next week to replace this samsuck. This site used to be more help less fanboy.
...more help less fan boy
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Not about fanboys, you didn't ask for any help, just listed complaints. No one cares about personal complaints.
lol once again the user is the problem not the device... you can do all of those things either with an app from the play store or with root. maybe stick to something more simple? try iOS.
Not sure how moving to another Android device will help you. :laugh:
Being that the OP has a total of 9, count them 9 posts and is a junior member, I'm guessing he's referring to the old days on the site when we were more help and less fanbois
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lol once again the user is the problem not the device... you can do all of those things either with an app from the play store or with root. maybe stick to something more simple? try iOS.
Not sure how moving to another Android device will help you. :laugh:
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He is already using IOS!
Ryland
Now we know from authoritative source that volume button is on the wrong side all those years, imagine that.
There are ways to adjust pretty much all of these points. Some are android specific - assume you are new to Android??
Did you even review the phone/play with it before spending on something you have chosen to dislike? To be fair you've come to a forum where 99.9999% of people are note enthusiasts so you will be whacked with a great big stick with a post like this :silly:
Ok how do you whitelist from power saving in a way that actually works? The settings interface for that is much different than stock android and doesn't actually let stuff run all the time like it does on my 6p. k9 always says syncing disabled (and works fine on 6p with stock nougat or oreo).
How do you get double-tap to select a word in text? Works by default in stock android.
After asking twice before to confirm increase volume while BT connected, it didn't ask this last time I increased it. I guess it is magically ok now.
How do you disable bixby button without creating a samsung account? There is an app that used to work using accessibility but no longer works in latest update.
How do you get root? The rooting page itself says "2.Enable OEM Unlock from developer option (Currently no workaround for those who doesn't have this option)" and I don't have this option.
How do you change the phone app? I tried downloading and installing one from apkmirror and got an error when installing.
How do you prevent notifications when blocked callers call?
How do you get normal time on the lock screen? Not the always on screen.
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Ok how do you whitelist from power saving in a way that actually works? The settings interface for that is much different than stock android and doesn't actually let stuff run all the time like it does on my 6p. k9 always says syncing disabled (and works fine on 6p with stock nougat or oreo).
How do you get double-tap to select a word in text? Works by default in stock android.
After asking twice before to confirm increase volume while BT connected, it didn't ask this last time I increased it. I guess it is magically ok now.
How do you disable bixby button without creating a samsung account? There is an app that used to work using accessibility but no longer works in latest update.
How do you get root? The rooting page itself says "2.Enable OEM Unlock from developer option (Currently no workaround for those who doesn't have this option)" and I don't have this option.
How do you change the phone app? I tried downloading and installing one from apkmirror and got an error when installing.
How do you prevent notifications when blocked callers call?
How do you get normal time on the lock screen? Not the always on screen.
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A respectful suggestion if I may.
Your first post was..... confrontational? Not the way to have your teething problems answered or supported.
Many of us, in all forum's, experience teething problems. I suggest you ask questions preferably one at a time so a peer can offer you some advice.
I have yet to ask for help here and not receive it. You will find there are some amazingly smart guys and gals here who will help IF you ask a palatable question. I am afraid what you have done is cause bad feeling and that's not the way to get help with your problems. Just food for thought. :good:
Ryland
I agree with the fingerprint sensor placement, for me being left handed, I have ot align it perfectly for it to work. Luckily the iris scanner is fast.
One issue I am coming across is my phone would random reboot and some settings would be changed to stock. For example, the font size would be change to default instead of everything tiny. My quick shortcuts layouts are stock and I have to re-login into some apps.
It happened about 3 times since i got the phone the first week of September. Hopefully I'm not alone. Sucks if I am though...lol
There is no help for those issues. That is why there is no response, and why the phone is going back. I am surprised anyone can stand the samsung interface and that is why it might sound confrontational. The apps that samsung replaces default apps with are really awful.
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There is no help for those issues. That is why there is no response, and why the phone is going back. I am surprised anyone can stand the samsung interface and that is why it might sound confrontational. The apps that samsung replaces default apps with are really awful.
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The only issue or possibly even an advantage is Samsung is edging it's own ecosystem in more and more. , basically it encourages one to buy another Sammy device and stay on board with them.
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Where is the question? Wrong forum, maybe you should tell someone who cares?
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I care. Thanks to the original poster for critical analysis.
Anybody can fan-boy and circlejerk, that takes no skill.
It takes skill to spot issues and courage to speak out on them.
Every phones has its issues, these do not make Note 8 useless, but buyers can more easily decide if it is for them, when they know its particular failings.
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I care. Thanks to the original poster for critical analysis.
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So which of the OP's claims do you really care about, because most are false, many are non issues for the majority and a few are valid. But the point remains that they were posted in the wrong forum.
vasra said:
I care. Thanks to the original poster for critical analysis.
Anybody can fan-boy and circlejerk, that takes no skill.
It takes skill to spot issues and courage to speak out on them.
Every phones has its issues, these do not make Note 8 useless, but buyers can more easily decide if it is for them, when they know its particular failings.
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It's not a critical assessment...it's a misleading one.
A few observations.
The volume button on the left side is the more ergonomic position and also makes it less likely you will drop the phone while changing volume making it an objectively better placement. The fingerprint scanner? Yeah, it's poor ergonomics at best and your complaint there is well justified.
Root is something you knew going in you wouldn't have, if it mattered you should have bought something else. I do agree in general that the trend toward taking root access from us is one I hate. That's why I bought an international version and rooted it.
The Samsung calendar app is less well featured than the stock app but it uses no resources when not used and you can always use the google app or one of the several better than stock google calendar apps on the play store. You don't get to complain about not having an app you can put on you phone in seconds which isn't even close to the best app of its kind anyways. I BTW didn't use the stock app on my 6P, didn't meet my needs.Samsung's stock SMS app is awful, IMO someone should be fired there because it falls below even a minimum level of functionality. But then while Googles does manage to get to at least a minimally functional feature set it isn't much better and both are a long way from what can be had in seconds for free that work better than either on the market. You don't get to complain about this one either though, the stock google app is a few clicks away and a few seconds will give that stock google experience if that is your preference.
Same number of clicks with Samsung to add a recent callers to contacts. Hard to do so is dismissed.
Hard to copy because you have to long press instead of double tap? Seriously? lol That's a fairly lame complaint without even taking into consideration the S-pen which opens up a whole world of options that you don't have on the 6P, one of which is using the S-Pen in the first place.
I like the default dialer and it has features which Google's does not. Regardless it can be changed as well as which dialer is the default, where did you get the idea you couldn't change dialers?
I don't have the media volume warning with my phone unless I'm on headphones, not sure why you do?
The Bixby button can be disabled, it can be disabled without signing into Samsung. Just an FYI, it can also be slaved to another function. All without root.
You can white list any app from power saver, just takes a few clicks, assuming of course you know which clicks. You have in an oblique way a real gripe here, Samsung's menus are getting better but they are still too bloated. The search menu function is your friend in pursing hard to find settings.
Who uses lock screens in this day an age? You've get bio-metrics and AOD, leaving the lock screen as an artifact of what was once the best we could do but isn't anymore. Think of it this way, I'm a pathetic old man and I've been able to understand that lockscreens are now just an extra step. Your complaint in this regard reminds me of my friends who cant handle new tech and are still trying to hang on to their flip phone.
At this point you probably think I'm busting your balls a little bit and you're right. On the other hand your complaints are largely groundless. The only real objective gripe you have is the fingerprint sensor location. Your assessment of the volume button location is subjective, not objective, and objectively is incorrect. Your complaints about the stock apps can be applied to google apps in the same way and most of which I changed on my 6P just as I have here. The impression I get is that the main problem you have is you need to learn how to shop better. There is no reason to buy a phone that does not have root if you know you want root. There is no reason to buy a phone well known for it's rather overbearing GUI and menu bloat if you know you are going to hate it. Why do that to yourself?
I recently Upgraded from a iPhone 7 to a Galaxy Note 9 and I've been wondering.. How many people unironically use Bixby. I've noticed in my 4 month's of owning my phone I've never really used Bixby and she's seemed like more of a nuisance rather than any help. And I find the concept of talking to any kind of virtual assistant kinda cringe. Thoughts?
Also if anybody could recommend a good Non Root Bixby button remapper I would greatly appreciate it!
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I recently Upgraded from a iPhone 7 to a Galaxy Note 9 and I've been wondering.. How many people unironically use Bixby. I've noticed in my 4 month's of owning my phone I've never really used Bixby and she's seemed like more of a nuisance rather than any help. And I find the concept of talking to any kind of virtual assistant kinda cringe. Thoughts?
Also if anybody could recommend a good Non Root Bixby button remapper I would greatly appreciate it!
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Just realized I created this thread in the wrong place. Apologies!
You know you can actually remap the button now to command any app you want now?
Didn't use it before but now its my go to to check my camera at home.
Yep, mine is remapped to launching Pandora music app...
last1youlove said:
I recently Upgraded from a iPhone 7 to a Galaxy Note 9 and I've been wondering.. How many people unironically use Bixby. I've noticed in my 4 month's of owning my phone I've never really used Bixby and she's seemed like more of a nuisance rather than any help. And I find the concept of talking to any kind of virtual assistant kinda cringe. Thoughts?
Also if anybody could recommend a good Non Root Bixby button remapper I would greatly appreciate it!
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I use Bixby everyday. In the morning I have a command where I simply say good morning and she runs preset tasks for me, including giving me weather alerts(rocky mountains) and read top headlines for the day. Also got one for when I arrive to work, and ones depending on what type of work I'll be doing that day.
Example, when I'm building print server queues, I like to keep my screen Timeout higher, bluetooth with some music, do not disturb on, and some other settings. Instead of me going through and doing all that, I just tell her "Print Queues," and she changes everything.
I do have the one button click remap to a command for Google Assistant but that's for searching for anything weirdly internet related.
I used to hate the idea of Bixby because I was so used to Google, but when I realized all the things I can use her for if I just took the time to learn it, I've been hooked ever since. ??
Sidebar: I even got one for my kid for Netflix whenever she wants to watch Little Einsteins!!! ?
Hi...
I'm using Bixby on daily basis and to be honest from the beginning I was almost hating that"button" but later I start using more and more... Home, in work places...
I don't since it shows me some panels for apps that I don't have them installed that I can't get rid of.
NO! I do not use it all, I have remapped it.
last1youlove said:
I recently Upgraded from a iPhone 7 to a Galaxy Note 9 and I've been wondering.. How many people unironically use Bixby. I've noticed in my 4 month's of owning my phone I've never really used Bixby and she's seemed like more of a nuisance rather than any help. And I find the concept of talking to any kind of virtual assistant kinda cringe. Thoughts?
Also if anybody could recommend a good Non Root Bixby button remapper I would greatly appreciate it!
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Nope, they even removed 2/3 of the features/commands with bixby 2.0 that were presented in bixby 1.0 and the funny part is that they are still listed in the manual. Useful things like "split screen" command/etc. All the phone control is removed and this was the only real useful part of bixby. Removing the deep integration is leaving the assistant with nothing over google one, just a 1/10 features copy that will fail to understand you 2/3rds of the time.
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Nope, they even removed 2/3 of the features/commands with bixby 2.0 that were presented in bixby 1.0 and the funny part is that they are still listed in the manual. Useful things like "split screen" command/etc. All the phone control is removed and this was the only real useful part of bixby. Removing the deep integration is leaving the assistant with nothing over google one, just a 1/10 features copy that will fail to understand you 2/3rds of the time.
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It's because of the changes to Android? I don't really see them bringing those features back though. I got mad when I first saw that they removed a lot of the device control features.
Conspiracy me thinks, they removed them from Bixby because of the permission changes to Android Pie, and they want people to keep buying their devices, they nuked Bixby as a whole instead of having the Pie folks having less stuff than Oreo? Don't know....conspiracy.?
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It's because of the changes to Android? I don't really see them bringing those features back though. I got mad when I first saw that they removed a lot of the device control features.
Conspiracy me thinks, they removed them from Bixby because of the permission changes to Android Pie, and they want people to keep buying their devices, they nuked Bixby as a whole instead of having the Pie folks having less stuff than Oreo? Don't know....conspiracy.
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Dunno why, but the fact is that 2.0 can't do a lot that 1.0 can... instead of improving and integrate it even deeper into the system, they stripped it. Android is open source project... there are some restrictions, but I am pretty sure non effects bixby functionality or atleast samsung can be transparent on why. On some of them bixby says "I don't support that yet, but I am learning constantly new things", so there is that - it recognise the old commands, but refuse to execute them.
It was killing me that it couldn't recognize the spelling of my old lady's name and on my note 8 it had a bad habit of not immediately recognizing my voice but getting triggered by random audio from my TV.
Since then I moved away from bixby and I alternate between Samsung and something else so GA has always been my go to since it's not OEM specific.
Nope my alexa is my main ***** and google is my doorbell chime. Bixby is awful and needs dropping.
I use bixby to make phone calls.... I really don't know what to say to Bixby to take it usable.... the only thing I need is send WhatsApp messages but seems that doesn't work with it.
Bixby is alright. She's definitely smarter than siri, but waaaaay slower.
I don't use Bixby. Might start using it when I get my Bsc in how to use Bixby.
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I used it for a couple of weeks when I first got my Note 9. I was impressed with the complex phone tasks I could trigger with just a few words that I programed for them. Something GA cannot come near to doing. But for other areas where GA shines, that's where Bixby falls short.
After those short weeks I started using bxActions because I found that having extra abilities through remapping of the Bixby and volume buttons was more valuable than using Bixby for me.
bixi command can set an alarm past 24 hours. google assistant cant.. still not stopping me from using bxactions pro and reassigning to assistant and google now.
No issues with bixby here.
I read recently that Tasker can be used, along with the Pixel Active Edge, to run any app you want. The one I want ,and told Google to apply, is to squeeze the phone to answer a call. Coming from Samsung. when it had the home button, I really missed that feature. I hate to swipe for a call. The Active edge squeeze feature is a natural solution.
I've gone into Google play and see Tasker choices but I don't know which is the right one.
Please let me know
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Although it has a separately accessible beta, there is only one tasker so you should find it if you include the word:
joaomgcd
binvius said:
Although it has a separately accessible beta, there is only one tasker so you should find it if you include the word:
joaomgcd
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Do you know if I can use Tasker, on an un-rooted phone, and use it to use the Active Edge and answer the phone ( Pixel 2XL)?
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Do you know if I can use Tasker, on an un-rooted phone, and use it to use the Active Edge and answer the phone ( Pixel 2XL)?
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Tasker can be used on a non-rooted device (though with limited functionality), but for remapping the Active Edge gesture, you need the Edge Sense Plus app in combination with its corresponding Magisk module, which requires root. Tasker itself isn't able to directly remap the Active Edge.
Understood. But , in general is it worth it to root the P2XL? It's been a while since i rooted. For me that would be going back to the Note 4.
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Understood. But , in general is it worth it to root the P2XL? It's been a while since i rooted. For me that would be going back to the Note 4.
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It all depends on your needs. I do root my devices for advanced control like AdAway, AFWall, Tasker and Oandbackup. Rooting my Pixel 3 was extremely easy (as the Pixel devices are quite user friendly).
Hi!
After a brief detour on the Pixel 6 Pro from Google, and the resulting disappointment, I made the choice to return to Samsung on an S21 Ultra.
However, if there is one feature I will miss a lot, it's the possibility to filter calls by forcing the caller to indicate the reason of his call before picking up.
Do you know if it's possible to integrate this on other smartphones than those of Google? Or do you know a similar application?
Thank you!
Pixel exclusive feature
Thanks for the answer.
Too bad, I hope we'll find a way to make it works on other smartphones too, this was really an interesting and useful feature!