Just ordered the International 6GB version this morning and I had a question about updates.
I've read that different versions can get their updates at different times., and that sometimes a particular version might be well behind the others. I'm wondering if I should flash the U.S. firmware when I get the phone or if it's better to leave it with the one it comes with.
I'm on Straight Talk (using AT&T towers), so I'm not getting any of the VoLTE service in any regard, so the only reason to do this would be to get a firmware that has timely updates.
Any thought from those who've had the phone for a while?
I would leave it as is unless your compelled to change it. I'm on the H9493 TW version and still on February's patch. Some regions have moved to March already. It will come in the next few weeks.
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I would leave it as is unless your compelled to change it. I'm on the H9493 TW version and still on February's patch. Some regions have moved to March already. It will come in the next few weeks.
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Thanks for the reply. I had heard that the H9493 was a bit behind in other regions, but if it's only by a few weeks or so then I'm not too concerned. If it was more like a couple of months behind, then I would maybe look at flashing another region's firmware.
Looking forward to getting the phone. Was really tempted to last year, but the price kept me away. Now though, I picked up a brand new one on Amazon for only $629, which I believe is still cheaper than the U.S. model, surprisingly!).
I flashed the US firmware when I received mine (mainly for the T-Mobile VoLTE) and it gets updated pretty quickly. It has been a week or more since the March update came. Other than somewhat faster updates, I'm not sure if there will be any benefits for you though.
ryotaru said:
I flashed the US firmware when I received mine (mainly for the T-Mobile VoLTE) and it gets updated pretty quickly. It has been a week or more since the March update came. Other than somewhat faster updates, I'm not sure if there will be any benefits for you though.
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Yeah, I'm thinking I'll just hold off, since it sounds like the updates come fairly quickly, even if not at exactly the same time.
Well, we're a week into May and I'm still on the February patch.
Got to say, I'm not too impressed with Sony's update policy, at least for this version of the phone. Here's hoping something comes through sooner rather than later.
H9493 TW is already on the April patch
52.0.A.8.25
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H9493 TW is already on the April patch
52.0.A.8.25
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My phone still shows me on 52.0.A.3.202 with no updates available.
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My phone still shows me on 52.0.A.3.202 with no updates available.
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If it's the TW H9493 then something is up.
I received 52.0.A.8.14 on April 10 and 52.0.A.8.25 on April 30, both OTA
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If it's the TW H9493 then something is up.
I received 52.0.A.8.14 on April 10 and 52.0.A.8.25 on April 30, both OTA
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Yes, it's the H9493. I haven't received any updates since the initial one when I first got the phone.
Geese1 said:
Yes, it's the H9493. I haven't received any updates since the initial one when I first got the phone.
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You must have the HK variant
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You must have the HK variant
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Which, I take it, operates on a different update schedule than the rest of the H9693 models?
What a mess. If I didn't already have the phone set up the way I'd like, I'd just install a different regions firmware. Still may have to think about doing that as it doesn't look like I'll get any updates anytime soon.
They are all over the place with them because some get held up based on region. I had a few HK variants over the years and they did eventually catch up. The OEM updates frequently but the methodology is fractured.
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They are all over the place with them because some get held up based on region. I had a few HK variants over the years and they did eventually catch up. The OEM updates frequently but the methodology is fractured.
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Thanks for the info. I still may flash a different regional firmware if I have time this weekend. While it's a pain, it might be the best thing in order to get timely updates. I'll have to research the method to do it (I believe you can do it using Sony's own software), and whether this will wipe the microSD card as well as the phone data.
Sony software will only flash same regional software. You will need to use Newflasher. Read the instructions, it's not difficult..
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Sony software will only flash same regional software. You will need to use Newflasher. Read the instructions, it's not difficult..
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Thanks, I'll look into it.
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Hello everyone, I have a question and I am no tech guy so please bear with me.
I have the unlocked HTC One 810e, I currently live in the U.S. and my carrier is AT&T, but I didn't buy the device from AT&T, I bought it back when I was in the middle east. Anyway, the current version of android I have is 4.3 and I have been patiently waiting for 4.4 to arrive, I've been reading lots of articles and blogs where people say that their unlocked HTC Ones have received 4.4. I've been checking for updates everyday and I haven't received anything yet. My question is, is there any way to trick my phone (I know that sounds a bit silly) into thinking we're somewhere besides the U.S.? Will that help me get the update?
Also, with the last two software updates (from 4.1), I have received a (I think 1 megabyte) update that said that there was some sort of bug and that was the reason I wasn't able to receive the update sooner, and after I updated the bug situation, I got the software updates immediately. Do you think this is the situation now?
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Hello everyone, I have a question and I am no tech guy so please bear with me.
I have the unlocked HTC One 810e, I currently live in the U.S. and my carrier is AT&T, but I didn't buy the device from AT&T, I bought it back when I was in the middle east. Anyway, the current version of android I have is 4.3 and I have been patiently waiting for 4.4 to arrive, I've been reading lots of articles and blogs where people say that their unlocked HTC Ones have received 4.4. I've been checking for updates everyday and I haven't received anything yet. My question is, is there any way to trick my phone (I know that sounds a bit silly) into thinking we're somewhere besides the U.S.? Will that help me get the update?
Also, with the last two software updates (from 4.1), I have received a (I think 1 megabyte) update that said that there was some sort of bug and that was the reason I wasn't able to receive the update sooner, and after I updated the bug situation, I got the software updates immediately. Do you think this is the situation now?
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AT&T 4.4 update is due out any day now ...if after it's released you still don't get updated I would consider taking other steps to get to 4.4
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AT&T 4.4 update is due out any day now ...if after it's released you still don't get updated I would consider taking other steps to get to 4.4
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I don't think you read my rant thing. My phone is the unlocked version, I didn't buy it from AT&T. But, what do you mean by "other steps to get to 4.4"?
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I don't think you read my rant thing. My phone is the unlocked version, I didn't buy it from AT&T. But, what do you mean by "other steps to get to 4.4"?
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Your service is from AT&T the update will come from AT&T
The other path is unlocking the bootloader, flashing custom recovery and a custom Rom (4.4.2 sense 5.5 )
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Hello,
Complete noob here and wanted to ask owners of this phone in the U.S as to how they get their software and security updates.. I'm on t-mobile and was wondering if it's as simple as getting these updates OTA or will I have to flash my phone? I have no idea how to go about the latter so if that's the only case then it's settled- I'm getting the next best camera phone (Pixel 2XL) instead
I can't also decide if it's better to get the global L29C variant or if I should go with the canadian LO4C one instead.. I'm not even sure if it'll make much of a difference in regards to my question but wanted to put it out there anyways.
Thanks!
dj24 said:
Hello,
Complete noob here and wanted to ask owners of this phone in the U.S as to how they get their software and security updates.. I'm on t-mobile and was wondering if it's as simple as getting these updates OTA or will I have to flash my phone? I have no idea how to go about the latter so if that's the only case then it's settled- I'm getting the next best camera phone (Pixel 2XL) instead
I can't also decide if it's better to get the global L29C variant or if I should go with the canadian LO4C one instead.. I'm not even sure if it'll make much of a difference in regards to my question but wanted to put it out there anyways.
Thanks!
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It is being pushed OTA, youll get monthly updates.
I was wondering the same thing because my P20 Pro will be here on Monday. However I got to CLT-09 version. I really hope I don't have to wait forever to get the OTA updates.
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It is being pushed OTA, youll get monthly updates.
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So just the security updates? How about the major software updates?
Hello everyone,
I really want a P20 Pro. I'm in the U.S. and would be using the factory unlocked Canadian ( CLT-L04 ) version of the phone via AT&T. It's soo much trouble getting this phone in the States. One of the things I'm most concerned about is getting the Android Pie update. It's supposed to start rolling out on the 10th, and I cannot find a concrete answer if I will be able to get it on my device. Contacted Huawei via facebook and asked and this was their response...
" Regarding your concern about updates; please bear in mind that, all of our updates are rolled out in batches according to the IMEI number and geographical region. If you own an unlock device, it will take a little more time to get updates. When the update are released, the carriers are in charge to send the update OTA."
When the update are released, the carriers are in charge to send the update OTA - That part has me concerned. Since I'll be on AT&T and it's not an officially supported device by AT&T, it sounds to me that I won't be able to get the update.
Anybody else in the U.S. that could help provide some insight on this?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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Thanks so much for the info! So the listing says this... "Only International items are Factory Unlocked without carrier logo and/or region lock." Without carrier logo I'm assuming means unbranded ( excuse my ignorance, I've never purchased a phone I couldn't just pick up in the store ) . So I should be able to get the Pie update without issue?
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Thanks so much for the info! So the listing says this... "Only International items are Factory Unlocked without carrier logo and/or region lock." Without carrier logo I'm assuming means unbranded ( excuse my ignorance, I've never purchased a phone I couldn't just pick up in the store ) . So I should be able to get the Pie update without issue?
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Yea seems like it and you can always flash some unbranded firmware tho if needed
Thanks! Sure hope you're right. Just purchased the last one the seller had.
Units sold by carriers in Canada are unlocked and unbranded. Mine is from Koodo/Telus and it's unlocked straight out of the box (it's the law in Canada) and doesn't have any carrier branding or carrier apps.
I think that as long as you are connected to the internet (mobile data or WiFi), you will get the update when a carrier releases it.
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Units sold by carriers in Canada are unlocked and unbranded. Mine is from Koodo/Telus and it's unlocked straight out of the box (it's the law in Canada) and doesn't have any carrier branding or carrier apps.
I think that as long as you are connected to the internet (mobile data or WiFi), you will get the update when a carrier releases it.
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That's the concern I have though. I'm not on a carrier ( At&t ) that carries this phone.
Now that I've ordered the phone, I'm having a hard time finding screen protectors and cases for it. Ones I like that is.
I have the same concern. I bought my P20 Pro by an importer, since here in Brazil it is not officially sold. I know the model is from Latin America because it is a CLT-L29 C605. But since I bought it, it just made an update and I'm still with the July update (8.1.0.152) since then.
So I'm in doubt if I'm actually getting the Pie right now on the 10th.
It's unlocked.
I'm loving the device, but it's sad to know that I have a smartphone released this year, last generation and I don't have updates support for it.
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I have the same concern. I bought my P20 Pro by an importer, since here in Brazil it is not officially sold. I know the model is from Latin America because it is a CLT-L29 C605. But since I bought it, it just made an update and I'm still with the July update (8.1.0.152) since then.
So I'm in doubt if I'm actually getting the Pie right now on the 10th.
It's unlocked.
I'm loving the device, but it's sad to know that I have a smartphone released this year, last generation and I don't have updates support for it.
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Well here's to the best of luck to both of us . Mines supposed to arrive tomorrow.
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worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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Ignorance again as I've never ventured into this territory. Would you mind explaining how, if I don't get the update, to update it manually?
LonestarROB said:
Ignorance again as I've never ventured into this territory. Would you mind explaining how, if I don't get the update, to update it manually?
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Its not that hard so just read this article https://www.androidpit.com/firmware-updates-huawei-honor and i think there is a guide posted in the p20 pro section on this forum also
Thanks man!
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That's the concern I have though. I'm not on a carrier ( At&t ) that carries this phone.
Now that I've ordered the phone, I'm having a hard time finding screen protectors and cases for it. Ones I like that is.
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I'm almost 100% sure that once Canadian carriers push the update you'll get it to. Has nothing to do with the carrier your on, updates are IMEI and model related. So if it's say a Telus/Koodo phone, you'll get the update when they push it.
That's been my experience anyways.
Ps. I'm using the same phone on Koodo now.
You should be on firmware .120 correct?
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I'm almost 100% sure that once Canadian carriers push the update you'll get it to. Has nothing to do with the carrier your on, updates are IMEI and model related. So if it's say a Telus/Koodo phone, you'll get the update when they push it.
That's been my experience anyways.
Ps. I'm using the same phone on Koodo now.
You should be on firmware .120 correct?
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I'm not sure. Phone should be delivered today.
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I'm not sure. Phone should be delivered today.
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Check it when you get it.
But you'll be fine for updates.
So receiving the updates to the phone varies by the carrier? The carrier is the one that has to push the updates, like T-Mobile...?
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So receiving the updates to the phone varies by the carrier? The carrier is the one that has to push the updates, like T-Mobile...?
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Carriers push the updates yes. But say I buy a phone outright from Rogers and I use it on Telus...Rogers will push the updates to the phone, not the carrier I use it on. And I think it happens because the IMEI would originally be in the Rogers database.
This has happened to me several times now.
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Carriers push the updates yes. But say I buy a phone outright from Rogers and I use it on Telus...Rogers will push the updates to the phone, not the carrier I use it on. And I think it happens because the IMEI would originally be in the Rogers database.
This has happened to me several times now.
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My phone isnt branded, so I dont know what carrier it is... because I bought it off a tech-store.
And for network, I am from Macedonia and I use VIP-MK sim card, which, as you said VIP wouldnt push the updates because the phone isnt from there, I don't know from where they're getting the phones to their warehouses, haha.
I just got a new update tho, b159, hopefully I will get the newest update after I install this one. ^^
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My phone isnt branded, so I dont know what carrier it is... because I bought it off a tech-store.
And for network, I am from Macedonia and I use VIP-MK sim card, which, as you said VIP wouldnt push the updates because the phone isnt from there, I don't know from where they're getting the phones to their warehouses, haha.
I just got a new update tho, b159, hopefully I will get the newest update after I install this one. ^^
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Possible that if it's unbranded and belongs to no carrier that you'd receive the updates from Huawei servers?
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Possible that if it's unbranded and belongs to no carrier that you'd receive the updates from Huawei servers?
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I dont think so.
Because there are a lot of updates for my phone to firmware finder, which I think they're from Huawei's servers, right?
And since I boight my phone like a month ago, this is my first update. I was kinda stuck at 152 with July's security patches, and a while ago I received 159 with October's security patches. All I want to say by this is that if I'd receive the updates from Huawei, I'd have now the newest security patches, which is 161 version I think.
Who knows...that's just my opinion.
Looks like Sprint is gonna be the last in updating the v40 to pie the merger with T-Mobile needs to happen soon
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Looks like Sprint is gonna be the last in updating the v40 to pie the merger with T-Mobile needs to happen soon
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True that but im gonna hate to see the Sprint Logo disappear and be replaced with T-Mobile...hopefully the variants are still Sprints tho so root can be achievable...
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True that but im gonna hate to see the Sprint Logo disappear and be replaced with T-Mobile...hopefully the variants are still Sprints tho so root can be achievable...
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I agree I'm not a big fan of T-Mobile splash screen
We in South Africa will get the Pie update only next month (July 2019). I asked for a official confirmation, but is so much a peep from them. My model is LM-V405EB.
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We in South Africa will get the Pie update only next month (July 2019). I asked for a official confirmation, but is so much a peep from them. My model is LM-V405EB.
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Vodacom device Pie update already rolling out.
I have a Vodacom device but use it on Telkom. I further asked LG about the Pie update and they promised a response but up to now there is nothing.
I'm on T-mobile stateside and received Pie last week.
Sprint just pushed an update to their v40. They pushed the June security patch....They pushed a monthly security patch weeks after every other carrier has started pushing Pie. What an absolute farce.
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Sprint just pushed an update to their v40. They pushed the June security patch....They pushed a monthly security patch weeks after every other carrier has started pushing Pie. What an absolute farce.
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hmmm...maybe i call pull it with LG Bridge.....so that we at least have a kdz to work with..
Been seeing stories that the October security update was pushed by Samsung for the S20 FE. I've got the USA unlocked model and haven't seen any updates yet. Have they pushed it in the USA yet? Have any of the big carriers pushed it yet?
I haven't got it either. I think sometimes it has something to do with your sim card, even on the unlocked model. I use Visible, so I'm probably not getting it for a while lol.
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I haven't got it either. I think sometimes it has something to do with your sim card, even on the unlocked model. I use Visible, so I'm probably not getting it for a while lol.
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I don't think that's the issue. The only country the update is being pushed out to at the moment is Germany from what I read on another web site. Hopefully we will be getting it stateside soon. If you have an unlocked like myself then your carrier does not have anything to do with firmware updates.
get the FW manually and force it on the phone with Odin
October update finally arrived this morning for US unlocked. No notification. Just tried a manual update check and there it was.
Youdoofus said:
get the FW manually and force it on the phone with Odin
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Do you know where the FW is available?
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Do you know where the FW is available?
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cant find the U1 firmware yet, but here is the G781B fw https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s20-fe/firmware/#SM-G781B
very likely need patched Odin to flash it. Buyer beware tho, if the U1 FW isnt out yet and you successfully flash any of these, you cant go back until the FW is released
I received ATJ5 update earlier when I manually checked for updates. Seems stable. Touchscreen issues seem much much better so far.
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October update finally arrived this morning for US unlocked. No notification. Just tried a manual update check and there it was.
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NOT for me. I'm on USA unlocked and just checked. Nothing.
Nothing yet on my USA T-mobile version
Been using my unlocked S20 FE (G781U1) for about a week now, that I got directly from Samsung, and still no updates. Stuck on the September security update.
Coming from an unlocked Pixel 3 that I used for 2 years, this is really weird! I always thought unlocked versions were the first to get the updates.
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Been using my unlocked S20 FE (G781U1) for about a week now, that I got directly from Samsung, and still no updates. Stuck on the September security update.
Coming from an unlocked Pixel 3 that I used for 2 years, this is really weird! I always thought unlocked versions were the first to get the updates.
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So, I've noticed that for some reason Samsung unlocked devices seem to get their updates pushed immediately AFTER the big 3 carriers have pushed their updates for some reason.
I'm using the Unlocked version on ATT, and I received the October security update on the 24th. Touch issues do seem improved, no complaints so far.
I've been following this on Reddit and Facebook. Nobody I know or have seen post that has an Unlocked model on T-Mobile is getting the update. If you swap the SIM out for a non-T-Mobile SIM, it will allow it to update. I actually tried an AT&T SIM today, saw it allowed an update, swapped my T-Mobile SIM back in, then it said no updates available (on September patch).
This makes no sense why T-Mobile is not sending the updates to UNLOCKED phones. I have submitted tickets to both Samsung and T-Mobile regarding this delay. No major response except for: "we're working on it". Unacceptable.
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I've been following this on Reddit and Facebook. Nobody I know or have seen post that has an Unlocked model on T-Mobile is getting the update. If you swap the SIM out for a non-T-Mobile SIM, it will allow it to update. I actually tried an AT&T SIM today, saw it allowed an update, swapped my T-Mobile SIM back in, then it said no updates available (on September patch).
This makes no sense why T-Mobile is not sending the updates to UNLOCKED phones. I have submitted tickets to both Samsung and T-Mobile regarding this delay. No major response except for: "we're working on it". Unacceptable.
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That's both crazy and annoying, but having been with T-Mobile for a few years I can't say I'm surprised. They've been last to the party more often than not when it comes to updates. Do you know if T-Mobile has pushed the October update to the T-Mobile (non-unlocked) variant of this device?? I bet they haven't yet.
I just successfully forced the update, see my new thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20-fe/help/successfully-forced-october-update-t4183325