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I absolutely hate the new qhd screens. I think its a waste of resources, battery and processing power. Im not too familiar with amoled screens. Im wondering if they look good at resolutions other than native, such as how a crt monitor is, and not like a lcd which looks horrible at anything other than its native res.
If this was true we could just run the phone at 1080p res and save a ton of resources instead of pushing all those pixles that we dont need.
All modern displays need to be run at a native resolution to make it look good. Old CRTs could change the pixels they were projecting onto the screen which allowed it to do true resolution shifts. With modern displays those pixels aren't projected onto glass. They are hard set. Consequently, you can't do it with LCD, AMOLED, LED, or Plasma. 1080p ain't happening.
However, we theoretically could push it to 720p since that is one quarter of it's native resolution. That would just mean that four pixels would be grouped together as one. I expect it won't take long for mods to make their way out for that and it could have a significant impact on battery life. Hopefully it won't screw anything up. I've heard that 720p mods on the LG G3 have screwed with some of the stock LG apps.
Poke_N_PDA said:
All modern displays need to be run at a native resolution to make it look good. Old CRTs could change the pixels they were projecting onto the screen which allowed it to do true resolution shifts. With modern displays those pixels aren't projected onto glass. They are hard set. Consequently, you can't do it with LCD, AMOLED, LED, or Plasma. 1080p ain't happening.
However, we theoretically could push it to 720p since that is one quarter of it's native resolution. That would just mean that four pixels would be grouped together as one. I expect it won't take long for mods to make their way out for that and it could have a significant impact on battery life. Hopefully it won't screw anything up. I've heard that 720p mods on the LG G3 have screwed with some of the stock LG apps.
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Damn. Im not sure that the 720p would be enough for me. Just had a g flex and its 6 inch at 720 and didnt look the greatest. I hope next year they realize that qhd is totally unnecessary and go back to 1080 panels.
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Damn. Im not sure that the 720p would be enough for me. Just had a g flex and its 6 inch at 720 and didnt look the greatest. I hope next year they realize that qhd is totally unnecessary and go back to 1080 panels.
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Why not just buy a 1080p phone then? The Huawai Ascend Mate 7 might be kind of what you're looking for.
It's got a 6" 1080p screen, metal construction, a huge (4100mah) battery, finger print scanner, etc. It's also roughly the same physical size or a little smaller than the N6 and similar in price I believe.
Overall the reviews have been fairly strong too. It might be worth a look.
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Why not just buy a 1080p phone then? The Huawai Ascend Mate 7 might be kind of what you're looking for.
It's got a 6" 1080p screen, metal construction, a huge (4100mah) battery, finger print scanner, etc. It's also roughly the same physical size or a little smaller than the N6 and similar in price I believe.
Overall the reviews have been fairly strong too. It might be worth a look.
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Need a nexus device. Im tired of being held hostage with updates by the manufactuers for updates. They either wont fix something dumb that a dev can fix in 2 seconds, or they completely abandon the device after a year and you will never see the next version of android. I need to keep a phone that has massive dev support.
Plus that phone specifically doesn't suit me. No front facing stereo speakers, no amoled, no wireless charging, no stock android, and some weird processor that I don't trust lol
Does it actually make a difference to change the resolution? You still have to light up ALL the pixels.
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Does it actually make a difference to change the resolution? You still have to light up ALL the pixels.
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Not on an AMOLED display. Backlighting is done on a per-pixel basis. That's why blacks are so dark, because the pixels aren't even on.
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I absolutely hate the new qhd screens. I think its a waste of resources, battery and processing power. Im not too familiar with amoled screens. Im wondering if they look good at resolutions other than native, such as how a crt monitor is, and not like a lcd which looks horrible at anything other than its native res.
If this was true we could just run the phone at 1080p res and save a ton of resources instead of pushing all those pixles that we dont need.
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Solution:
Do not buy a QHD phone.
Is it possible to swap the display?
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Cheater912 said:
Is it possible to swap the display?
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HA. You are funny.
Oh wait, you are serious?
GrayBoltWolf said:
HA. You are funny.
Oh wait, you are serious?
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Surely it's possible with enough work.
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GrayBoltWolf said:
HA. You are funny.
Oh wait, you are serious?
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Surely it's possible with enough work.
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Like this:
http://highlowtech.org/?p=2182
Change the display ... really? come on, if you don't want QHD then just don't buy the phone.
Have you tried buying the nexus 5…? ?
Coming from someone with a g3, there are plenty of things you can do to make the phone snappy without having to gimp the resolution. The phone can handle it, just buy a portable battery if you are really worried.
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Solution:
Do not buy a QHD phone.
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OMG! I cant believe my tiny little brain didnt think of such a magical solution. Ill just pop out to the local best buy and grab a phone with the specs im looking for:
5.5 inch plus screen
Amoled
Unlockable bootloader
Front facing speakers
Wireless charging
Oh wait. That doesnt exist outside of the nexus 6................. Hey but thanks for the really helpful and well thought out post.
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Does it actually make a difference to change the resolution? You still have to light up ALL the pixels.
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Absolutely it will. QHD isn't just about what the screen putting it out. It's the processor calculating what goes on that display. You are right that the power the screen consumes doesn't change. However, the processor now only has to calculate 1/4th of the graphics it used to. When you consider how much power is needed for graphics calculations on the processor, that is a MAJOR savings and can really add up over time.
Major? Like he said you still have to fire up all the pixels. It has always been my understanding that pushing the sheer number of pixels is what eats battery. I agree that it's overkill for such a small screen but regardless it's here, you can either but it or not.
on my g3, outside of playing games, reducing the resolution did not increase my performance or battery life.
Well not impressed. The width is a little nicer buts that's about all. I liked the lcd screen better and the screen ratio. No game suite on US version? Sideways HUAWEI staring at me 90%of the time. Can live without my extra 128 card. Sorry guys just drunk and *****ing. Come on Mate 20 Lcd you better be good.
What's wrong with Mate 10 Pro's OLED screen ?
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What's wrong with Mate 10 Pro's OLED screen ?
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Really prone to burn in, pixel uniformity is all over the place. Aka the usual LG panel problems.
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Really prone to burn in, pixel uniformity is all over the place. Aka the usual LG panel problems.
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Well regarding burn in I can't disagree, I'm surprised very few people report this. I'm glad Huawei Customer service replaced it without arguing. I hope I won't need to do it again, and if that's the case, I'd test again their customer service.
Regarding pixel uniformity, I can't notice anything wrong with this 3 weeks old screen
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What's wrong with Mate 10 Pro's OLED screen ?
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It's looks good now. Nice vibrant color till it gets burn in. Learned the hard way on my last phones to stay away from oled. Speakers are a little better on the Pro. I do miss the front navigation button. All in all good phone for me. The K970 won't win in any drag race but it has been a solid performer for me. Was set till the M20s came out but a thief changed that plan. Oh well grandson will enjoy this one over the M9 I gave him last year. Come on November.
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Well regarding burn in I can't disagree, I'm surprised very few people report this. I'm glad Huawei Customer service replaced it without arguing. I hope I won't need to do it again, and if that's the case, I'd test again their customer service.
Regarding pixel uniformity, I can't notice anything wrong with this 3 weeks old screen
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My Mate 10 Pro is 7-8 months old and no burn in! But i'm not starring at static wallpapers for 24 hours, so maybe that helps... or i'm just lucky! ?
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My Mate 10 Pro is 7-8 months old and no burn in! But i'm not starring at static wallpapers for 24 hours, so maybe that helps... or i'm just lucky!
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Same here, I don't keep my phone running for hours with luminosity set to the max. As stated in my post, my device is a second hand. No idea what was previous owner habits, but being able to see his homescreen setup was a nightmare. I even had the impression I could see my own homescreen setup progressivel superimposed before contacting Huawei Customer service, but that could be a placebo effect Just too bad I did not took a picture of the result.
If issue was about Waze screen burning the display due to hours loooong rides, I could understand, but it wasn't the case. And even if it was, Huawei and other manufacturers should warn about it. And I suppose Huawei tries to minimize it with the auto-dimming enforced, but TBH I never heard people complaining about Samsung or Pixel devices.
In order to minimize the issue, I installed Gesture Control and even payed for Pro version, so I won't have navigation bar burning the display, and in addition I can enjoy fullscreen display all the time It could be an option for you as you miss fp reader/navigation button. There are few missed actions, I don't know if it's a matter of app sensivity setup, another parameter, or due to the app itself, but it's enough, and I'll progressively try to change the setup in order to reduce these misses.
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Same here, I don't keep my phone running for hours with luminosity set to the max. As stated in my post, my device is a second hand. No idea what was previous owner habits, but being able to see his homescreen setup was a nightmare. I even had the impression I could see my own homescreen setup progressivel superimposed before contacting Huawei Customer service, but that could be a placebo effect Just too bad I did not took a picture of the result.
If issue was about Waze screen burning the display due to hours loooong rides, I could understand, but it wasn't the case. And even if it was, Huawei and other manufacturers should warn about it. And I suppose Huawei tries to minimize it with the auto-dimming enforced, but TBH I never heard people complaining about Samsung or Pixel devices.
In order to minimize the issue, I installed Gesture Control and even payed for Pro version, so I won't have navigation bar burning the display, and in addition I can enjoy fullscreen display all the time It could be an option for you as you miss fp reader/navigation button. There are few missed actions, I don't know if it's a matter of app sensivity setup, another parameter, or due to the app itself, but it's enough, and I'll progressively try to change the setup in order to reduce these misses.
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All OLED screens suffer from this, some more, other less, but still an issue with oleds.
I'm glad mine doesn't have it, otherwise i would be annoyed too.
Usually static images cause this, but only if you keep your screen ON for hours on the same image.
OLED quality also matters, that's granted.
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Panel is Samsung, not LG
Is it who got all these problems!!
bad camera quality even after disabling AI.
battery management not good while playing games.
display problems in medicore games like ninja arashi due to body ratio.
Screen burn issue after 10hrs of crashlands game only of white color.
display quality quite cheap so lifetime can be expected to be one yr.
automatic brightness adjust not useful.
missing double tap to screen on or off.
finger print sensor quite low.
low light camera is non existant.
I returned this model cuz of screen burn it disappear after 15mins cuz of lcd but after playing game it happens again and only noticable in grey background at high brightness. there were unresponsive touch too sometimes while playing game.
well my mobile seem completely new, was it defective model or basic problems with honor play.
P.s. - screen burn is only noticable for bright white color being open for 10 mins.
Bad camera quality, yes its some stupid cheap sensor... The front camera is even worse. The honor 9n has same front camera n it produces 10x better results.
Battery is really GOOD for me. 4g + volte always + playing games (1 - 2hrs) total usage would be around 6hrs a day n it will last more than 1 day. I charge only upto 80%.
Never had any issue with screen ratio.
Automatic brightness was never good tbh. Its been always like this on Honor phones. Play is no different.
Yes... The goddamn fingerprint reader is just a complete crap item. Its a hit n miss thing and the worst part is i had to add my right finger twice (same finger) in 2 different ways (yes its possible) so that i can open the phone.(it works wonders, try it).
I used to have honor 8 and man it was a beauty. Everything top notch... And play is Top botch....
Double tap isnt useful... You can just lift the phone from 0 to 90 degree and screen will turn ON.
Instead of double tap to lock, you can add a "lock screen" on your home screen.. (tap n hold home screen - > widgets - > blue widget with a lock)
Actually for low lights, use night mode or pro mode with 1 or 2 sec timer. Phone will capture images with more color THAN your eyes can see.
Wow I'm surpised you having problems picture look nice and the front camera best I seen. Everybody say my selfies look really really good super clear. I came from a Samsung galaxy s8 plus and the pictures are better on the honor the front camera on here 10x better than the s8 plus
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Wow I'm surpised you having problems picture look nice and the front camera best I seen. Everybody say my selfies look really really good super clear. I came from a Samsung galaxy s8 plus and the pictures are better on the honor the front camera on here 10x better than the s8 plus
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Ok keep that in mind. Find someone with Honor 9n (that costs less than play). Take a selfie on their phone. (both phones has the same cam - 16mp)...
Now get sad because play takes absolutely crappy pics!
Ibb.co/XXT0LZc honor 9n
Both taken with front cam
ibb.co/17jkBX0 - honor play..
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Ok keep that in mind. Find someone with Honor 9n (that costs less than play). Take a selfie on their phone. (both phones has the same cam - 16mp)...
Now get sad because play takes absolutely crappy pics!
Ibb.co/XXT0LZc honor 9n
Both taken with front cam
ibb.co/17jkBX0 - honor play..
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Did you got and display issues? I had screen burn so i returned it.
vishal uchiha said:
Did you got and display issues? I had screen burn so i returned it.
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No... I dont any issue with screen..
Tbh there are no issues with my phone so far... Except the fact that i hate the goddamn crappy camera...
Both back n front are absolute pile of dog poop when compared to my 3yr old honor 8...
Im gona sell this phone n buy nova 4 or magic 2 when it launches here...
Or maybe switch to vivo v11 pro or mi8....
I compared this with an 6yr old samsung galaxy and it took better selfies with better color reproduction than play....
This is mainly because PLAY is the only phone with which we can adjust the exposure for front cam and has manual control over which spot the camera checks for light source... Even honor 10 doesnt have it.
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No... I dont any issue with screen..
Tbh there are no issues with my phone so far... Except the fact that i hate the goddamn crappy camera...
Both back n front are absolute pile of dog poop when compared to my 3yr old honor 8...
Im gona sell this phone n buy nova 4 or magic 2 when it launches here...
Or maybe switch to vivo v11 pro or mi8....
I compared this with an 6yr old samsung galaxy and it took better selfies with better color reproduction than play....
This is mainly because PLAY is the only phone with which we can adjust the exposure for front cam and has manual control over which spot the camera checks for light source... Even honor 10 doesnt have it.
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I really need a budget phone at moment, i ordered play from amazon but after like 10hrs of baming i noticed screen burn in white pixels. I seriously don't know that it's cheap display of honor or amazon fault. Anyways i was able to get refund, but i can't decide what to buy now : honor play it's also at discount of 60$ today from official site or redmi note 6 pro or mi a2, the only thing i want is a long lasting device which will work for at least 3 yrs and my budgetnis 300$ only.
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I really need a budget phone at moment, i ordered play from amazon but after like 10hrs of baming i noticed screen burn in white pixels. I seriously don't know that it's cheap display of honor or amazon fault. Anyways i was able to get refund, but i can't decide what to buy now : honor play it's also at discount of 60$ today from official site or redmi note 6 pro or mi a2, the only thing i want is a long lasting device which will work for at least 3 yrs and my budgetnis 300$ only.
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For an extra of 20$, you could get v11 pro....
Good sides? Well indisplay fingerprint, faceunlock in dark, waterdrop notch, 100x better cameras... More ram n internal
Bad sides? ColorOS... And only snapdragon 660 AIE
Tbh the only reason thats stopping me from going v11 pro is the COLOR OS.... And the only thing keeping me with honor is Emui....
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For an extra of 20$, you could get v11 pro....
Good sides? Well indisplay fingerprint, faceunlock in dark, waterdrop notch, 100x better cameras... More ram n internal
Bad sides? ColorOS... And only snapdragon 660 AIE
Tbh the only reason thats stopping me from going v11 pro is the COLOR OS.... And the only thing keeping me with honor is Emui....
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Is it long lasting? I mean software issues thing. How is redmi note 6 pro? I have heard from my friends that it's quite durable in both soft and hardware terms, and it has enough features for medium use, i am not much of a gamer. I play only games under like 500mb.
vishal uchiha said:
Is it who got all these problems!!
bad camera quality even after disabling AI.
battery management not good while playing games.
display problems in medicore games like ninja arashi due to body ratio.
Screen burn issue after 10hrs of crashlands game only of white color.
display quality quite cheap so lifetime can be expected to be one yr.
automatic brightness adjust not useful.
missing double tap to screen on or off.
finger print sensor quite low.
low light camera is non existant.
I returned this model cuz of screen burn it disappear after 15mins cuz of lcd but after playing game it happens again and only noticable in grey background at high brightness. there were unresponsive touch too sometimes while playing game.
well my mobile seem completely new, was it defective model or basic problems with honor play.
P.s. - screen burn is only noticable for bright white color being open for 10 mins.
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Goto Phone Manager touch power saving->Optimize.Phone Manager will rapidly identify apps or features that are rapidly drainning the battery.Touch the Optimize button net to each or feartures to disable it and start saving power.You can touch Recover to re-enable the app or feature.When you remove an app from the protected apps list,your phone will close the app automatically when you turn off the screen to save batterry.
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Goto Phone Manager touch power saving->Optimize.Phone Manager will rapidly identify apps or features that are rapidly drainning the battery.Touch the Optimize button net to each or feartures to disable it and start saving power.You can touch Recover to re-enable the app or feature.When you remove an app from the protected apps list,your phone will close the app automatically when you turn off the screen to save batterry.
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I am not a complete noob, i know all this and that optimize is useless even asus phone manager is better.
vishal uchiha said:
Is it long lasting? I mean software issues thing. How is redmi note 6 pro? I have heard from my friends that it's quite durable in both soft and hardware terms, and it has enough features for medium use, i am not much of a gamer. I play only games under like 500mb.
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Would choose v11 pro over redmi...
I dont want ads even in goddamn settings. If you van live with colorOS or rebrand it... Then its an amazing phone
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Would choose v11 pro over redmi...
I dont want ads even in goddamn settings. If you van live with colorOS or rebrand it... Then its an amazing phone
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Well you can remive those ads and blotwares with ease, i have highly modified my xiaomi the only problem remain is battery drain in standby mode.
Only 2 issues with mine
Well for 1 the phone is great I got 2 problems though large apps from the playstore like pubg mobile for example download but always gives me a error message and fails to install and 2 I placed one of my lean buttons next to the fire button and when I hold lean and try to fire its doesn't fire at all
Screen burn is ridiculous! And the HonorPlay overheats over time and that is what causes screen burn. I'm really upset by this as I had thought that this smartphone would last me my whole life But i was wrong.
Hello guys. I really don't know which one to pick this year, the S10 or S10E. My main concern is the display, S10E has about 440 PPI (since its FHD), while the S10 display has 550 (WQHD). Do you guys think our eye can actually notice the difference while, for example, watching some high definition videos, or even just surfing? I really like the 10e concept (no edge screen which i hate) but I'm actually worried I'd miss a little quality on the screen. I read some articles about the way the human eye actually notices the difference in PPI but I'm curious about your opinions. Thanks!
No, you cannot tell the difference. So much so that all Samsung devices come set to 1080 out of the box. If you want full res, you have to go change it
FWIW, I went from the Galaxy S9 to the Pixel 3 which is a pretty similar comparison in PPI. I could tell the difference. Reading text in particular. I am VERY nearsighted, however, with outstanding "near" reading vision. I think this will depend on the person.
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FWIW, I went from the Galaxy S9 to the Pixel 3 which is a pretty similar comparison in PPI. I could tell the difference. Reading text in particular. I am VERY nearsighted, however, with outstanding "near" reading vision. I think this will depend on the person.
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Sorry I have a question for you... when you say reading text, you mean reading like pdf or just normal chrome browsing? I'd like to try as well to see where I could notice the difference. Thanks!
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Sorry I have a question for you... when you say reading text, you mean reading like pdf or just normal chrome browsing? I'd like to try as well to see where I could notice the difference. Thanks!
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Mostly "normal" mobile text like Twitter, text messaging, emails, etc. Text just looks slightly more jagged on the Pixel 3 for me.
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Mostly "normal" mobile text like Twitter, text messaging, emails, etc. Text just looks slightly more jagged on the Pixel 3 for me.
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I tried but even if i have a far from perfect eyesight, I couldnt really tell the difference.
Any other opinions guys?
You won't be able to tell.
I have a Note8 that I run at the 1440p WQHD resolution.
If I move it down to the 1080p, the text becomes slightly "thicker", but after a few minutes of using it you cannot tell a difference.
If you move it to the 720p, it is noticeable and very, very "chunky" and you will continue to notice it.
However, this is because the display is optimized for the 1080p but runs the 1440p very well, too.
I am buying an S10e because you will not be able to tell the difference on the device. I went to Best Buy and inspected the S10e here -- it looks GREAT and all fears are done away with.
Samsung is simply reducing the "waste" of the 1440p to make the phone less expensive and more compact.
Honestly, I am fine with it.
The iPhone XR is something like 720p and it looks far worse than the iPhone XS, but the S10e is back up on par with all of the latest Samsung models.
had a look at some demo units yesterday and i noticed a little difference. the s10/+ where on full resolution compared to the s10e i was able to see a difference in text like stated before. but i had to look very closly.
i would say i you use the phone for video consumption most of the time i would advise for the bigger and better screen. but on the other hand the smaller 1080 screen of the s10e should be better on the battery too.
i preorderd the standard s10. from what i saw yesterday i really like what they did with the s10e alle the important specs. but again the s10+ would be the best screen for 4k hdr video consumption imho. im still a litte torn between the models
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Hello guys. I really don't know which one to pick this year, the S10 or S10E. My main concern is the display, S10E has about 440 PPI (since its FHD), while the S10 display has 550 (WQHD). Do you guys think our eye can actually notice the difference while, for example, watching some high definition videos, or even just surfing? I really like the 10e concept (no edge screen which i hate) but I'm actually worried I'd miss a little quality on the screen. I read some articles about the way the human eye actually notices the difference in PPI but I'm curious about your opinions. Thanks!
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If you are wanting to get into VR, you will ABSOLUTELY 100% see a difference. 1440p on my s8 seems a slightly pixelated in VR. Which I will say that samsung vr is by far the best vr experience on the mobile market.
Other than that, couldnt tell the difference between 1080 and 1440 on my s8.
I think in all the latest phones you can spot ppi differences if you are a hawk.
I was happy with the 1080p screen on my OP6T so I'm confident the display on my S10E will be awesome.
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If you are wanting to get into VR, you will ABSOLUTELY 100% see a difference. 1440p on my s8 seems a slightly pixelated in VR. Which I will say that samsung vr is by far the best vr experience on the mobile market.
Other than that, couldnt tell the difference between 1080 and 1440 on my s8.
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very good point :good: haven't thought of that
tharghan said:
Hello guys. I really don't know which one to pick this year, the S10 or S10E. My main concern is the display, S10E has about 440 PPI (since its FHD), while the S10 display has 550 (WQHD). Do you guys think our eye can actually notice the difference while, for example, watching some high definition videos, or even just surfing? I really like the 10e concept (no edge screen which i hate) but I'm actually worried I'd miss a little quality on the screen. I read some articles about the way the human eye actually notices the difference in PPI but I'm curious about your opinions. Thanks!
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I picked S10e and the main reason was the size, where S10 is a bit taller. The screen should be pretty fine. I don't think users will be able to see the PPI difference. If iPhone Xr users are buying this phone which has 326 PPI, then S10e is much better
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I picked S10e and the main reason was the size, where S10 is a bit taller. The screen should be pretty fine. I don't think users will be able to see the PPI difference. If iPhone Xr users are buying this phone which has 326 PPI, then S10e is much better
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I really leaned towards the S10e for nothing else but the flat screen. I eventually decided on the S10 though. The S10+ is approaching the size of a tablet and I couldn't handle that.
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I really leaned towards the S10e for nothing else but the flat screen. I eventually decided on the S10 though. The S10+ is approaching the size of a tablet and I couldn't handle that.
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I did like and want a flat screen phone for some time. In the pictures S10e looks pretty good and the design language a bit different from S8/9. Regardless, I am sure any of S10 would be good as it is 10th anniversary for Samsung and they can't afford to fail its customers!
The bigger screens are probably better if you watch a ton of video, but I don't like watching videos on my phone.
All I can say is this -- your S10e screen will be better than my Note8 display (which is great at 1440p) and since you have a screen that is literally as good as it can get at 1080p, you won't notice. You will never tell the slightest difference.
I could not really tell at Best Buy, but I think both models (S10+ and S10e I had side by side) were both on 1080p software setting. However, they both looked GREAT and no "Chunky" text like when I set my Note8 to 720p.
It will also mean that 3100 mah battery will go a long way.
UPDATE: Found a fix and hope it works for you guys too!
Forced 90hz is the way to go! Pixel 4 FTW!
1. Forced 90hz - ON
2. Ambient eq - ON/OFF (I have it ON but I heard some people turned it OFF and it fixed the black crush/purple hue. I tried it and it didn't fix anything for me
3. Always on display - MUST BE ON (I had this OFF before to save battery. This must be turned back on. I can replicate this every time, turn it off and the crushed black/purple hue appear, turn it on and the problem goes away.
Enjoy your P4 on 90hz always guys!
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I had my P4XL on forced 90hz the whole day. When night came my brightness was at around 30% and I noticed something was wrong with the screen. The default grey wallpaper was severely crushed, it looked more black than grey; youtube videos looked awful in darker scenes; my astro shots looked off, there was no transition in the night sky, it went from brighter areas to sudden pitch black.
I took out my P3XL to compare and it was significantly better! I knew this couldn't be right so I thought maybe I should try turning off the forced 90hz on my P4XL. Once it was off, the black crush was gone!
Is this meant to happen? Does higher refresh rates relate to brightness or has Google done something with it?
Here is a link to photos I took - P3XL VS P4XL forced 90hz (ON) & P3XL VS P4XL forced 90hz (OFF)
ttps://imgur.com/a/mS7yZ5o (i'm a junior member and can't post links, please add 'h' to the front)
I tried to replicate the problem on my pixel 4 xl and didn't have the same issue
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made. Google then was aware of the issue with the panels and locked the higher refresh rate to the brightness levels. Google probably expected that the masses wouldn't dive into developer settings and force 90hz on. They probably also didn't expect many people to complain about 90hz barely kicking in unless you were running at a higher brightness % either. So I'm guessing their software update will lower the required brightness to trigger 90hz with Smooth Display activated and possibly increase the overall brightness of the display. The display is locked around 4xx nits while it's confirmed with auto brightness off that it can achieve over 600 + when playing HDR content. So it's probably just a first batch woes for Samsung and we got stuck with it unfortunately.
zetsumeikuro said:
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made. Google then was aware of the issue with the panels and locked the higher refresh rate to the brightness levels. Google probably expected that the masses wouldn't dive into developer settings and force 90hz on. They probably also didn't expect many people to complain about 90hz barely kicking in unless you were running at a higher brightness % either. So I'm guessing their software update will lower the required brightness to trigger 90hz with Smooth Display activated and possibly increase the overall brightness of the display. The display is locked around 4xx nits while it's confirmed with auto brightness off that it can achieve over 600 + when playing HDR content. So it's probably just a first batch woes for Samsung and we got stuck with it unfortunately.
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I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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I really hope not
cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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The teardown from iFixit indicates that Samsung has manufactured the displays.
I noticed the same issue. White 4xl, I forced the 90hz and sometimes when I unlocked the phone at night low brightness the screen looks watched out, blacks look gray but then I locked the phone and open it again and I get the issue op is talking about. Very crushed blacks and colors are way off. I also have on the night light as well. I will test more today.
zetsumeikuro said:
The teardown from iFixit indicates that Samsung has manufactured the displays.
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Ok
cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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It was about the smaller Pixel 4:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/24/pixel-4-lg-display/
zetsumeikuro said:
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made.
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Didn't Samsung make the panels for the 90h display for OnePlus 7 Pro? If so, they've been out for about six months and they are excellent panels!
rajeshr said:
Didn't Samsung make the panels for the 90h display for OnePlus 7 Pro? If so, they've been out for about six months and they are excellent panels!
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That was my thoughts, and yes they are Samsung ones. Barely any complaints about the OnePlus 7 pro. Flooding in for the pixel 4 already
Some people in reddit have had success turning off Always On Display, yes, not Ambient Display but AOD.
It makes no sense but it worked for them.
m+a+r+k said:
Some people in reddit have had success turning off Always On Display, yes, not Ambient Display but AOD.
It makes no sense but it worked for them.
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If you have forced 90hz you actually want to have AOD on and that will get rid of the purple/green tint for certain colors at lower brightness.