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I want to unlock my T-Mobile Wing

I don`t know how or what software use.... so if you can help me THANKS.
(Sorry for my english i'm from latinamerica)
don`t worry for your answer I understand very well english language.

t-mobile will unlock it for free.

how I do that?
how T-Mobile can unlock my phone? cuz when I buy the phone don't have any sim card so I don`t know which is the operator. when I turn on the pda the screen show me a question about a code... I DON`T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I try with 1234 and 12345678 and NOTHING is locked again and I have to wait a several minutes for try again and that sucks!!!!

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Your best bet if T-Mo won't cough up an unlock code, you may have to check out a service for it. There's plenty of places that can unlock ur fone for a price... it's definitely worth it. Just search around

Dr.Gonz0 said:
Your best bet if T-Mo won't cough up an unlock code, you may have to check out a service for it. There's plenty of places that can unlock ur fone for a price... it's definitely worth it. Just search around
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Just call up T-Mo and tell them you are traveling overseas and need to unlock your phone. They'll give you some sort of code you type in.

Correct me if I¡m wrong. You are from Latin America, so you bought your Wing on Ebay or something alike. If that's correct and as T-Mo does not have service in LAmerica, there's no chance to request them the unlock code because the phone is no longer binded to a T-Mo account. It's kind of odd it was not originally unlocked (I got mine through Ebay and I'm LAmerican too). At this point mi advice would be to take it to a tech shop and have it unlocked. It won't be expensive and once unlocked works really great!!

apreichner said:
Just call up T-Mo and tell them you are traveling overseas and need to unlock your phone. They'll give you some sort of code you type in.
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Hehe, I guess I just had a sales chimp try n sell me. When I called in to get my code. The broad would ask me the question all the time "why don't you want to be in our network" or "want to start an account?" Eventually I had to get crunk with her and say "because I don't want to... 1st amendment " She then asked if I had a t-mobile SIM card in the phone and I told her "no" coz i didn't. She then proceeded to tell me "you have to be a customer with us for 6 months before we can give you an unlock code"
Perhaps I should have been a little more persistent but oh well. I may have had to pay 10 bucks but I got what I wanted in the end hehe

In my case... I no longer have t-mobile service, and haven't had it for a good 6 months or so. My current phone (samsung eternity) has a mic that is going lame that they won't cover - and I always liked my old Wing better anyway. I got excited when I pulled it out and downloaded a new rom for it- and with my new data plan I could actually use IM! Unfortunately I discovered that the phone is not unlocked, contrary to what they told me when I bought it off of ebay...
It's ridiculous that I'd have to pay money to use a piece of hardware that I already own. Why are carriers even allowed to sim-lock phones in the first place? Isn't locking the Average Joe into a 2-year contract enough?
But I digress. After reading all these threads with frustrated regulars and whiny newbies, I guess it's either pay to unlock or get myself a new phone, eh..

myrid said:
In my case... I no longer have t-mobile service, and haven't had it for a good 6 months or so. My current phone (samsung eternity) has a mic that is going lame that they won't cover - and I always liked my old Wing better anyway. I got excited when I pulled it out and downloaded a new rom for it- and with my new data plan I could actually use IM! Unfortunately I discovered that the phone is not unlocked, contrary to what they told me when I bought it off of ebay...
It's ridiculous that I'd have to pay money to use a piece of hardware that I already own. Why are carriers even allowed to sim-lock phones in the first place? Isn't locking the Average Joe into a 2-year contract enough?
But I digress. After reading all these threads with frustrated regulars and whiny newbies, I guess it's either pay to unlock or get myself a new phone, eh..
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Thats why i dont buy phones off of Ebay and really does it hurt that much to pay some extra $ to sim unlock ur phone? anyways sim-lokcing the phones was so that other carriers wouldnt use that device but now...pretty much all carriers have the same hTC device but to there own customized verisons of that certain device

PLEASE, Someone find a way to SIM Unlock Sprint version!

Please! tell me how can i do it. Im willing to pay. If i wont unlock it im stuck with 2 devices. It is Sprint Prepaid.
Thank you !!!

MeTaL.SnAkE said:
Please! tell me how can i do it. Im willing to pay. If i wont unlock it im stuck with 2 devices. It is Sprint Prepaid.
Thank you !!!
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Prepare for a soap box, I've hidden this now because as relevant as it is, it's a little over the top.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CALL SPRINT AND GET AN DEVICE UNLOCK CODE FROM THEM! It's pretty simple. Ya'll need to quit with all these posts. You're not encouraging anyone to do any work any quicker than they might already be doing it. You are simply being an annoyance. Twenty thousand posts about the same thing is getting really old. Buy a phone that works with your SIM card, buy a device already SIM unlocked, or wait until someone figures out a way!
STOP ASKING A MILLION TIMES OVER FOR THE SAME THING!!
This post is not just against you but EVERYONE begging over and over again about the same thing. The same thing goes for those with 64 bit devices who beg for a 64 bit recovery.

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Ok sherlock, Already called sprint before i made this post. You know what was their answer? "WE CANT UNLOCK IT, SORRY SIR". Yes, very dissapointing, I know. She told me "you can only use the wifi". Like, if she would answer me - Get lost.
And btw, I already have a phone, A OnePlus One I just bought these 2 sprint phones from amazon for super cheap - 30$ each. I've been planning using them as a backup / Give one for my sister's boyfriend. So, just saying again, I hope someone can do it and unlock it..

Go after Sprint
Seems to me that we are growing frustrated at the wrong people...
Obama signed into law a few months back that requires the phones to be "Unlockable" by the end user. I do know, a lot of the carriers have voluntarily put in promise to comply in the future, in regards to selling Unlockable phones. But, I just see it as lip service and does not help us Now.
Someone or a group of people need to take this up with the FCC or Justice Department...
But at the very least file a class action lawsuit on two fronts... I personally am miffed about this same phone being marketed as a 4 Gig of internal memory, when in fact it really has about 1.5 Gigs or less of available memory. And, this whole SIM/Locked, S-On, Bootloader Locked nonsense.
Owner of 4 HTC Desire 510s'

MeTaL.SnAkE said:
Ok sherlock, Already called sprint before i made this post. You know what was their answer? "WE CANT UNLOCK IT, SORRY SIR". Yes, very dissapointing, I know. She told me "you can only use the wifi". Like, if she would answer me - Get lost.
And btw, I already have a phone, A OnePlus One I just bought these 2 sprint phones from amazon for super cheap - 30$ each. I've been planning using them as a backup / Give one for my sister's boyfriend. So, just saying again, I hope someone can do it and unlock it..
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Well Watson, if Sprint wont help you, instead of creating such a useless thread--that helps nobody and gets you no answers--how about you utilize the search function and notice that nobody has currently found a way to sim unlock (save Virgin Mobile apparently). You'll also notice how many useless posts there are about this same thing. So "for the love of god", either figure it out yourself or sit patiently. You posting about this issue, really a non-issue, is not going to get it solved any faster. You are simply being an annoyance just like every other user incessantly posting about the same thing. I'm sorry if this seems mean or whatever but that post wasn't necessarily directed at you but all the damn posts about this non-issue. And honestly this is something you should have researched and considered before you bought the phone.
Sorry, I'm off the soap box.
Also, try calling Sprint International Customer Service at 1-888-226-7212 and tell them you are going to be traveling abroad to whatever country you want and tell them you want to use a local sim card while you're there. I can't tell you that they'll definitely do it because on the website it says that prepaid phones are not eligible to be unlocked, however, there are multitude of places on the internet (some respected, others not so much) that you can go to and get your MSL code. Also, this is the bill @flash4yish was talking about which you might bring up in conversation with Sprint, H.R.1123 - Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act
Regardless, just chill, people are in fact working on it as it's a hot topic in the forums so it's really just a matter of time.

[Q] An honest site needed to buy imei

I've tried unlocking all but after too many hours of reading,searches,downloads,installs than virus removals and rooting and money. Used my credit card 3 times for sim unlock at online companies. All three screwed me but got money back from one. I think cause they are Canadian phones.
They gave me these reasons and a few more. Than kept my money.
The phone is blacklisted by the provider or reported lost or stolen
It is now illegal within the USA to unlock Phones purchased after January 26th 2013, if your phone was purchased after this date it cannot be unlocked.Although this model is generally un-lockable, there are instances where codes cannot be generated.
The IMEI number submitted was incorrect.
I check on these and none pertain to these phones n the imei # was correct.
In Canada its Not illegal here to unlock if you own the phone out-rite.
I'm looking for an honest place online that sells the imei or just the sim unlock codes for a good price. The average price from the networks like rogers
here is $50 and that's half of the phones worth. I'm retired can't afford that.
Right now I'm trying to unlock my Samsung galaxy S3 mini.
Anyone know a $5 to $10 site?
I own all four cells.
Sony Erricson xperia X10a Rogers Canada
Huawei Ascend Y300-0151 Rooted Bell .
Samsung Galaxy Ace 2e SGH-T599V Wind
samsung galaxy S3 mini, Canadian Model SM-G730W8 Rogers
Android 4.4.2
SW-VER G730W8VLUAMK1
smg730rfmc

joeroni said:
I've tried unlocking all but after too many hours of reading,searches,downloads,installs than virus removals and rooting and money. Used my credit card 3 times for sim unlock at online companies. All three screwed me but got money back from one. I think cause they are Canadian phones.
They gave me these reasons and a few more. Than kept my money.
The phone is blacklisted by the provider or reported lost or stolen
It is now illegal within the USA to unlock Phones purchased after January 26th 2013, if your phone was purchased after this date it cannot be unlocked.Although this model is generally un-lockable, there are instances where codes cannot be generated.
The IMEI number submitted was incorrect.
I check on these and none pertain to these phones n the imei # was correct.
In Canada its Not illegal here to unlock if you own the phone out-rite.
I'm looking for an honest place online that sells the imei or just the sim unlock codes for a good price. The average price from the networks like rogers
here is $50 and that's half of the phones worth. I'm retired can't afford that.
Right now I'm trying to unlock my Samsung galaxy S3 mini.
Anyone know a $5 to $10 site?
I own all four cells.
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Hey Joeroni I understand why you don't want to pay $50 to unlock a $100 phone.
But we can't really help with any recommendations cause we might offend someone
here that sells codes or software.Even though you have been ripped off from
some online companies.There are many ways here to unlock your phone but we
understand that one click root n unlock is much harder than stated and many
have bricked their phones.Which you can't afford to do.Like when you one click
root n unlock your Canadian Huawei Ascend Y300-0151.Its rooted n modem unlocked
but still locked to Bell.So learn roms now. Besides there are so many softwares
for Samsung that don't do your Canadian Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini, Canadian Model
SM-G730W8. Which you found out after hours n hours of reading n trying. We also
don't like answering people that are not geniuses already at this stuff. Not
even suggesting on the easiest software that you can buy credits that definitly
works on your Canadian phones.
So rather than learning to do your own phones here. Why don't you just quit
trying and pay the $40 and go to the corner shop n have them do it.Them shops
are popping up all over the place. Sound right?

lost or stolen phones
If less people bought "lost or stolen" phones there would be lots less lost or stolen phones.

themountig said:
If less people bought "lost or stolen" phones there would be lots less lost or stolen phones.
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And like I said they are not stolen or blacklisted. They are difficult because they are Canadian and software little diff. They are mine. You see while some sell software others codes n so fourth. Its all about money now. This site used to help people now it seems like all retail just want money now or THEY GET IGNORANT if your a newbie and not a genius at roms n stuff. Or I guess putting out money to the site. To have to pay half of what the phones are worth just to unlock them is wrong. Most learned how to do it from this site for years. Now I get they must be stolen.

If the phones in question are tied by contract to a particular service provider they are not owned by you. If you owned the phones legally and they are not tied by any contract unlocking would be simply achieved by calling the service provider to release the handset. If you wish to circumvent the law or break a phones link to a contract illegally why would you ask here. Such activities are expressly prohibited by this site and abusing members for not providing you with the tools to do this is disgraceful.

Listen here I keep telling you trouble maker that they are good. I know about all that stuff. Two I got after 2 year contract n went with other company . Then two bought out rite. I've already called the companies that were my providers from each phone. Asked how much to unlock them. That was my first move. Rogers checked and my cell was ok not blacklisted with them and wanted $50 plus 15% tax . I thought that was too much cause by law they have to provide an unlock to me. They said ya for a price $50.00 It's the same at the other major providers like bell fido rogers that i tried. All phones are ok to unlock but i must pay too much. So I try some online imei codes but get ripped off n now they have my credit card numbers. Damn. So I do searches n read n check out every software figuring ill do myself and pay for credits. but most software i checked does the samsung galaxy S3 mini but not the Canadian SM-G730W8 model. Same with my ol Sony Ericsson Xperia X10a. Different than regular x10. So I come here ask for few links or help. I get a senior member giving me BS. Your a trouble maker themountig and I don't need your help or accusations. Now once again people they have been checked and are all ok.

I checked the IMEI for your S3 and it has not been blacklisted, so I believe you when you say you own it outright. I also went ahead and removed your IMEI numbers from this thread because unscrupulous people will transfer them to devices that have been blacklisted so that those devices can work again. This activity is illegal in most places that support IMEI blacklisting and typically any discussion about how to change your IMEI is removed from xda.
In this case, I think why you really want is to SIM unlock your device. I am not sure what the laws are in Canada, and depending on where you live the carrier may or may not be required to provide you with an unlock code for free. Pretty much everywhere they have to do it if you own the phone. Typically SIM unlocking your device is not something that is supported very much on xda...rooting, unlocking the bootloader, yeah that gets done a lot around here.
You may want to bring up the issue with whomever you want as your new provider. They may be able to help you with Rogers or they may have another solution for you. Vodafone took care of an issue with my old provider when I switched to them. It is probably best to stay away from the online SIM unlocking services because it is really easy to get ripped off.
Good luck!

Thank you justmpm. I did not think about why people would want my old imei numbers. I did contact the company and yes they have to open it but at their price. That $50 is half of what I can buy the same phone unlocked online. My kids friends are techs at HP (bunch of crazy kids) and will unlock my phone this weekend if need be. They are also checking out these websites that ripped me off. One site is already down. unlock-freedom.cm They say they have a surprise for the other one this weekend. These companies must be making millions ripping people off. Well couple days ago I found another site advertising right here at my post. So now I'm waiting on code-unlock-shop that had a decent price and advertises doing Canadian cells. We will see. Its my last try.
Thank you justmpm for the info and removing my imei numbers. Most of all thanks for the respect.

I want to be clear. I am not accusing you of anything underhand it's just that an IMEI is meant to be attached to one cellphone. People who sell them are outside the law and therefore have no morals which would prevent them from ripping you off. The moderator removed your numbers from your post to protect you. Where do you think IMEI sellers get the numbers they sell as they can't be obtained legally or sold honestly. Sim unlocking is accepted practice IMEI selling is not. Therefore your request to be pointed to an honest seller is not possible. I should have simply pointed out to you that you were asking for the wrong thing, therefore I apologise for giving the wrong impression. Pleased you have so many young experts to guide and assist you and wish you well.

Its legal here in Canada to unlock your phone if you own it. But its expensive to have someone do it for you. SO Ive tried here and rooted both Huawei Ascend and the Samsung Galaxy Ace 2e but most software don't do the Canadian models. So thats when I tried the easy number unlock. Getting ripped off though. Didnt know that was illegal cause they advertise everywhere. Even in my evening newspaper. Im finding this out the hard way. I seen another site that does Canadian phones. Right here at this post. htp://www.code-unlock-shop.cm . Advertising right here but Ripping people off? Been 4 or 5 days now and still haven't heard from them. Another $15. Another scam that has my visa numbers. Damn it. I'd be ahead of the game if I stayed off this site and buy a new unlocked cell phone and hell with playing with cell phones. Well all my kids tech buddies are dropping in this weekend to check on these sites that ripped me off. Ill let them little crazies deal with them. Problem solved I'm buying a new phone that I can't afford.

Finally got numbers from htp://www.code-unlock-shop.cm. Paypal screwup. Happy happy happy Finally. Lot of trouble for my own phone. Damn

Odd IMEI situation (Nexus 6 AT&T)

So I've been playing with my Nexus 6 (I am the original owner) for a while, and recently PCS'd to South Korea for 3-5 years.
AT&T suspended my wireless service under the Soldiers/Sailors Relief Act, which basically suspends my service for $.01/mo.
Now, AT&T also allows you to unlock your device so that you can use a local SIM in the country you are stationed, however their online support unlock request form does NOT recognize my IMEI???
Is it even remotely possible that flashing other radios/bootloaders/roms can potentially modify the IMEI? If so, how can I go about getting the original IMEI restored? I believe I flashed the Google-Fi rom/radio/bootloader most recently. Should I flash back a stock LMY47E or something like that with radios etc.?
I don't normally ask questions like this, but it has stumped me for the last 4 days and I've done lots of searching with no results. My google-fu sucks apparently.
Thanks in advance.

Nope. Does not change any of the IMEI info. I actually ran into the same thing with AT&T on my old Note 3. The reason it does that is because it ineligible to be unlocked through them. However, cellunlocker.net is great for unlocking phones.

AFAIK, Flashing Radio/Kernel/ROM wont change ur IMEI. I strongly suspect that the issue is on the ATT side not your IMEI.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Holy smokes that was a fast reply!
I actually tried cellunlocker.net first, and they said that they couldn't find that IMEI in their database, and that if I wanted to wait a few additional days they would scrub other databases?
Should I have waited for them to scrub additional databases? I already got my refund back
EDIT: I do find it strange that they wouldn't unlock it or that it's not eligible though. It DOES have their branding. LOL.

There are other sites too. I would have let them scrub other sources.
Depends on how long you have had the phone and if it's financed or still in a 2 year contract.
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And it's likely ineligible because of the suspended service. Regardless of your military status. I had issues with phone companies doing that when I was in the Army stationed in Germany.

Thanks. I'll give another site a shot and be more patient with it. Hell I haven't been able to use the phone since the beginning of June, I can wait a few more days. HA.

Have seen it before on another thread here. It is ATT being an ass. They will say they can't even find IEMI till the device is payed off. Think other poster had to contact FCC. Hope you can work it out and thanks for what you do for the rest of us.

cliff p said:
So I've been playing with my Nexus 6 (I am the original owner) for a while, and recently PCS'd to South Korea for 3-5 years.
AT&T suspended my wireless service under the Soldiers/Sailors Relief Act, which basically suspends my service for $.01/mo.
Now, AT&T also allows you to unlock your device so that you can use a local SIM in the country you are stationed, however their online support unlock request form does NOT recognize my IMEI???
Is it even remotely possible that flashing other radios/bootloaders/roms can potentially modify the IMEI? If so, how can I go about getting the original IMEI restored? I believe I flashed the Google-Fi rom/radio/bootloader most recently. Should I flash back a stock LMY47E or something like that with radios etc.?
I don't normally ask questions like this, but it has stumped me for the last 4 days and I've done lots of searching with no results. My google-fu sucks apparently.
Thanks in advance.
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graydiggy said:
Nope. Does not change any of the IMEI info. I actually ran into the same thing with AT&T on my old Note 3. The reason it does that is because it ineligible to be unlocked through them. However, cellunlocker.net is great for unlocking phones.
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prdog1 said:
Have seen it before on another thread here. It is ATT being an ass. They will say they can't even find IEMI till the device is payed off. Think other poster had to contact FCC. Hope you can work it out and thanks for what you do for the rest of us.
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Actually, the AT&T online tool nearly always returns an "IMEI unrecognized" message for our N6. If you call them, you will have no problem getting a free IMEI code directly from AT&T. Been there, done that....

cam30era said:
Actually, the AT&T online tool nearly always returns an "IMEI unrecognized" message for our N6. If you call them, you will have no problem getting a free IMEI code directly from AT&T. Been there, done that....
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No idea that was an issue! And I just paid for another service. =| well I'll call ATT in the morning anyway to see what they can do. Thanks for the suggestion. This G4 is okay, but man do I miss my nexus. So clean and snappy.

cliff p said:
No idea that was an issue! And I just paid for another service. =| well I'll call ATT in the morning anyway to see what they can do. Thanks for the suggestion. This G4 is okay, but man do I miss my nexus. So clean and snappy.
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You can also email AT&T tech support if that's more convenient.

cam30era said:
Actually, the AT&T online tool nearly always returns an "IMEI unrecognized" message for our N6. If you call them, you will have no problem getting a free IMEI code directly from AT&T. Been there, done that....
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They won't give it to you if you are still withing a 2 year contract, or on a finance plan. Been there done that...

graydiggy said:
They won't give it to you if you are still withing a 2 year contract, or on a finance plan. Been there done that...
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You are correct, for us civilians. But I understand that the OP is in the military, being posted overseas. They will do it under those circumstances.

cam30era said:
You are correct, for us civilians. But I understand that the OP is in the military, being posted overseas. They will do it under those circumstances.
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Again... Been there done that. Had trouble with them. They are complete pricks when it comes to giving out the code. I have always found it easier to either pay for an unlock or use another method. He could try contacting them, but it will take a few days to process the request and in my experience, they need orders to show the duty station and even then may deny the request. I even had one moron tell me no right off the bat. When asked why, he was like "because national security". I laid into that jackass about how stupid he was and how much BS I knew he was feeding me.

graydiggy said:
Again... Been there done that. Had trouble with them. They are complete pricks when it comes to giving out the code. I have always found it easier to either pay for an unlock or use another method. He could try contacting them, but it will take a few days to process the request and in my experience, they need orders to show the duty station and even then may deny the request. I even had one moron tell me no right off the bat. When asked why, he was like "because national security". I laid into that jackass about how stupid he was and how much BS I knew he was feeding me.
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Well that certainly sucks. And their policy says the will SIM unlock for military personnel stationed overseas. FWIW, I had no problem getting an unlock code from them, but my N6 was paid off.

cam30era said:
Well that certainly sucks. And their policy says the will SIM unlock for military personnel stationed overseas. FWIW, I had no problem getting an unlock code from them, but my N6 was paid off.
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You know how it goes. "we say one thing then do the exact opposite" lol

Well its unlocked via the 3rd party service I paid $10 for
For the record, I'm military affiliated as an Army Civilian, but prior service military as well. ATT already has my orders on file as they required them in order to suspend my account for $.01/mo.
At least I have a fully functioning N6 again! Thanks everyone.

Glad to hear. Thanks for your service active or not. :good:

Petition to Samsung to let us unlock the bootloader of our Note 9 SNAPDRAGON NORTH AM

I will start by saying i know that this has been done and that Samsung will never listen to us or that simply doesn't care but
I have started a campaign on Twitter i will write a request directed at Samsung Mobile and Samsung Mobile USA everyday until they block me or something else happens.
If you don't agree with me its really ok and i see your reasoning, but the purpose of this threat is to attach it on the Twitter request.
So i would like to invite you to join my request just by writing down on the thread with capital letters "UNLOCK OUR DEVICE"
For those who don't agree with me I would like that you don't write it here lets keep this thread clean and focused.
Let's hope that by doing the same thing we get different results.
Here is the link of the tweet i will be writing everyday:
https://twitter.com/Shkrepsja/status/1141086683770818562?s=19
Feel free to retweet it or disagree with me there
Thank you!:highfive:

They don't care. Only ones who they will listen to are the service providers and Verizon will tell them to lock it down even more

bignazpwns said:
They don't care. Only ones who they will listen to are the service providers and Verizon will tell them to lock it down even more
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I know but don't care i will continue doing that at least until they block me ?

If only someone with real influence could join you on Twitter.

alanifotis said:
I know but don't care i will continue doing that at least until they block me ?
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Its been done. It won't change anything until the provider tells them to. It's locked because of them. And they won't unlock it because you can just run features they charge for for free. It makes no sense for them to unlock it. People are going to keep buying the devices reguardless.

roaduardo said:
If only someone with real influence could join you on Twitter.
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Its they have given up i guess but i won't
I don't why only Samsung does that man some say that is because of the carriers but i don't think saw because if you think about it OnePlus have a unlock bootloader. What does that mean OnePlus has bigger balls then Samsung?

bignazpwns said:
Its been done. It won't change anything until the provider tells them to. It's locked because of them. And they won't unlock it because you can just run features they charge for for free. It makes no sense for them to unlock it. People are going to keep buying the devices reguardless.
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OnePlus has an unlocked bootloader do you think they have bigger balls then Samsung?

alanifotis said:
OnePlus has an unlocked bootloader do you think they have bigger balls then Samsung?
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Probably. Even the T-Mobile version has one once you pay it off. That's most likely gonna be my next phone.

The_Keeper86 said:
Probably. Even the T-Mobile version has one once you pay it off. That's most likely gonna be my next phone.
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Thats exactly my point we pay almost 1000 $ for the phone we shouldn't have less options then OnePlus

alanifotis said:
Thats exactly my point we pay almost 1000 $ for the phone we shouldn't have less options then OnePlus
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I totally agree man. It's a damn shame really. My first Note was the Note 5 straight from T-Mobile it had an unlocked bootloader. That was January 2016. I guess some laws changed since then? I don't know.

The_Keeper86 said:
I totally agree man. It's a damn shame really. My first Note was the Note 5 straight from T-Mobile it had an unlocked bootloader. That was January 2016. I guess some laws changed since then? I don't know.
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Even tmobile versions have locked bootloaders now. Idk about the law but if OnePlus Pixel LG have unlocked bootloaders we should have them too

The_Keeper86 said:
I totally agree man. It's a damn shame really. My first Note was the Note 5 straight from T-Mobile it had an unlocked bootloader. That was January 2016. I guess some laws changed since then? I don't know.
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No "law" has changed. Just company policy. If there was a "law" that changed, people wouldn't be able to unlock other phones, like OnePlus phones that are sold through T-Mobile. I unlocked my OnePlus 7 Pro easily. This locked bootloader BS is from Samsung and/or Qualcomm and/or T-Mobile policy.

alanifotis said:
Even tmobile versions have locked bootloaders now. Idk about the law but if OnePlus Pixel LG have unlocked bootloaders we should have them too
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Include John Legere(?) Or however his name is spelt. The CEO of TMobile. I remember on the Note 5 someone tweeted him about a bootloader unlock and he tweeted Samsung. Lol. Wait, that might have been the Note 8. I don't remember, but tweet him either way.

but....you can already unlock the bootloader. just not on north american carrier models.
( strangely in south america and China the same SOC (snapdragon) can be unlocked. and of course the exynos model too...i wonder why... how can it be that the reset of the WHOLE PLANET HAS UNLOCKABLE BOOTLAODERS...lol ..i really wonder why.....
but seriously its prety obvious to me)
that's 'merican freedom for ya.( lol funny how a communist country has better rights in certain aspects of life)
so do the logical thing, read up on the subject and petition the carriers instead ( they are the true culprits obviously). ( while ure at it petition all that is bad about em like price of contracts and such)
as it stands OPs 'efforts' are a big waste of time.

Jammol said:
Include John Legere(?) Or however his name is spelt. The CEO of TMobile. I remember on the Note 5 someone tweeted him about a bootloader unlock and he tweeted Samsung. Lol. Wait, that might have been the Note 8. I don't remember, but tweet him either way.
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I will on tomorrow's tweet

bober10113 said:
but....you can already unlock the bootloader. just not on north american carrier models.
( strangely in south america and China the same SOC (snapdragon) can be unlocked. and of course the exynos model too...i wonder why... how can it be that the reset of the WHOLE PLANET HAS UNLOCKABLE BOOTLAODERS...lol ..i really wonder why.....
but seriously its prety obvious to me)
that's 'merican freedom for ya.( lol funny how a communist country has better rights in certain aspects of life)
so do the logical thing, read up on the subject and petition the carriers instead ( they are the true culprits obviously). ( while ure at it petition all that is bad about em like price of contracts and such)
as it stands OPs 'efforts' are a big waste of time.
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Idk man but i don't think that the carrier's are to blame Samsung makes the devices and should have the ball to say this my device if you want you sell it as it is. You see iPhone's, pixels onepluses etc with no bloatware and unlocked bootloader and the biggest smartphone manufacturer has bloats and no unlocked bootloader
SAMSUNG SERIOUSLY STEP UP AND BE A MAN GROW A PAIR OF BALLS

alanifotis said:
Idk man but i don't think that the carrier's are to blame Samsung makes the devices and should have the ball to say this my device if you want you sell it as it is. You see iPhone's, pixels onepluses etc with no bloatware and unlocked bootloader and the biggest smartphone manufacturer has bloats and no unlocked bootloader
SAMSUNG SERIOUSLY STEP UP AND BE A MAN GROW A PAIR OF BALLS
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well the n960u1 firmware has no bloat...
and the iphone is locked tighter than... lol i wont go there.
its the carriers trust me. they require samsung to put the bloat as part of the deal. its in the contract they have with samsung and they require them to locked it down and bloat it up. samsung won't make 2 phones available for a region. they produce the hardware and slap on the csc and other crap. thats why the U1 is bloatless( sammy bought device directly) but locked because its a requirement by the providers because that device will end up on an north America provider. it represents millions of dollars if not more to get these devices onto the market and into shady carrier plans. why would samsung refuse this business/contract? i mean if someone gives me 20 000$ to piss in some one's porch, as morally wrong rhat may be, id probaly do it because we're all in the money making business unfortunately.
again this practice of not allowing a bootloader to be unlocked is very different for the rest of the world. i reiterate, apart from north america, every single device samsung produces for the planet can get their bootloader unlocked.
isint that proof enough ?
id take it up with the carriers and ure state law office instead.
again, samsung is only producing fones in accordance with the carrier's ruling. its like buying a car second hand and the original owner payed extra for some stupid spoiler or something and you as the 3nd party goes back to the dealership and blames the dealer for it... they just abide to the order.
moreover, i wouldint be surprised the united states fcc and carriers have some sort of agreement that is not public or you have to be a lawyer to read the fine print and hundreds of pages that stipulates why the device's bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked. its politics and money related for sure.
are you surpised? that's 'merica for ya.
anyways ill say it again. people should just stop buing NA devices.
also here is proof that its the providers:
alot of them wont allow you to use advanced csc features like wifi calling and volte on 'greymarket' devices. they even made up a term for it because they didnt get a piece of the pie when u buy a device that is not carrier bought ie: international version.
when u buy a car second hand or that is from an other country, does the state roads bureau say no you cant drive it? or no you cant modify it? of course not. you pay taxes and have a permit that enables you to drive it.
so by paying good money monthly to have a line and data plan, they should be doing these shady practices that the rest of the world dont do.
businesses own America.(and canada)

What's the point considering how difficult they make it even with s10 series exynos. Think I might get off the Sammy train next, as I require root for all my devices and note 10 exynos will be just as difficult as s10 series is at this point, with virtually no development.
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Idan73 said:
What's the point considering how difficult they make it even with s10 series exynos. Think I might get off the Sammy train next, as I require root for all my devices and note 10 exynos will be just as difficult as s10 series is at this point, with virtually no development.
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i get where ure coming from.
but unlocking the BL is but half of the task. but i mean we're just the users using what ever means other people find and develop to gain root access. how hard or how skillful these people that are developping and contributing to get recovery and root this time around i dont know. The ease at which the s7, s8...etc were overcome by, may be a pure fluke. maybe there is just less intrest for doing so on these devices than before. with all the new companies, there are no longer the top 3 manufactures that made it more likely that people would choose samsung to develop on.
but if I'm not mistaken the problem or should i say difficulty with the s10 is the recovery and the handoff/subsequent boot process to homescreen. purely speaking about root, i think top john woo came up with the method prety quickly. but as someone that likes flashing roms and zips, recovery is a very big part of the root/recovery double edged sword. but as anything else, since the methods have changed abit, there are always things to overcome at first. what is not bad about this scenario is that the s10 helped bring those hurdles months ago to light and i think that this will help speed up things for the note 10(compared to the s10). but all in all it does slow things down regarding development, that i agree. but ireally think thats because the interest of devs and the fact that the market is being flooded by:
more different models and sub models and more phone companies than before, thus diluting the dev base in more fractionated parties... and ive heard also people saying that they dont even feel the need to root and all that comes with it anymore. for me though, lol that's not the case.
anyways, i guess we'll see when we get there...( august ? lol)

As i said it's not that i disagree but we must do our part
At least i will and lets hope we achieve something