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Any workarounds for a voip app and microphone for a rooted book color?
the cool guys that know what they are doing are working on bluetooth, that seems to be the best bet to getting a microphone working with NC, cross your fingers!
what about a wired headset with a built in mic. does the nook have the connections to support this?
I think the two best options right now for voice applications are probably the Bluetooth and the slight possibility that the micro-USB port on the Nook seems to have quite a few extra pins on it, which may have left B&N open to a proprietary connector that would allow for additional device connectivity via the micro-USB port.
I've purchased a number of micro-USB adapters in order to plug various devices into the micro-USB port of the NC, with zero success (keyboards, USB headsets, mice, etc). Clearly that port isn't currently operating in that manner, and I'm sure there's a tech savy person that could drop in and give us a simple answer to why this is.
I was also curious about the headphone port possibly have mic capabilities, and was about to purchase a single post headset to test the theory, but then I took a (very unscientific) look at the headphones jack, and it would appear that there aren't enough ring connectors inside it to support an additional channel. Obviously the guys doing the tear-down would know far more about this than myself.
We'll see what turns up over the coming months.
Found this teardown post with spec list and it says that there is no mic input in the headphone jack. I know I read another teardown post which I cannot find that indicated the same thing. I agree that our best bet may be getting the bluetooth working.
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I've purchased a number of micro-USB adapters in order to plug various devices into the micro-USB port of the NC, with zero success (keyboards, USB headsets, mice, etc). Clearly that port isn't currently operating in that manner, and I'm sure there's a tech savy person that could drop in and give us a simple answer to why this is.
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Can you detail what sort of adapters you tried? Have you tried a gender changer (type a-a female-female) on the end of the nook cord attached to a keyboard?
Someone correct me if I am wrong but, in order for the usb to do something other than just charge and connect to the PC from the usb, you would have to activate USB host, which is not turned on in stock. Hence no of the fancy toys will work. There are a lot of funky pins on the connector so it may have to be some funky adapter, assuming you get usb host running. There are a lot of hackery potential, but until that project is completed, the wait for bluetooth continues.
Go Occip! (the guy hacking the bluetooth.)
Mike
This is what I've been thinking about. I don't have the ability to figure out how to activate the USB Host function, but I read several posts about how it worked on N1, D1, and Hero.
The thing I want to try is using a micro USB to 3.5mm minijack cable like those that came with the G1. It's the only thing I could think of that could logically be supported by the default system since it was necessary in 1.5 on that device.
I don't think anyone is using VOIP yet, but you may be very interested in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
I'm running the CM7 image via SD card from that thread, and the Bluetooth works, and I can connect to my phone and my headset. Several people can connect to their standalone GPS units. Worth watching.
Anyone know if the micro USB port is even powered?
On a lot of phones, the USB connectors aren't powered by the device (like my HD2), so you have to hack together a proper setup that supplies power.
Just wondering, since some of the newer tablets let you hook up mini usb devices to it and so. Was wondering if there had been any adapters yet or so for us streak 7 users? Would be cool to get a wired controller hooked up and so.
You would need an OTG cable to do that, as dell doesnt make any you will have to make your own or use the HDMI dock.
Well I have the HDMI Dock, so I could use the dock then insert the usb device to that? Was thinking about getting that Logitech F710 with that usb dongle, heard it had support for android. What else would I need? Or hows that work fully.
As for the non dock part, has anyone made a cable yet to work?
if your device had a usb-a connector you have no choice then but to make a cable.
the sixaxis/ds3 uses a mini usb connector and might work though usb,
I know it and the wiimote will work over bt, with the wiimote being the easier to pair one.
Well I have the wiimote working fine, Issue there is.. Yea.. Battery drain on that remote. So figured maybe getting a adapter. I guess I need a USB to Mini micro usb? (The new style mini usb thing.. man I miss the old big RAZR size ones) How many of you have used a HID device or so on android or the streak 7?
you'd need to splice together the dock connector to preferably a USB-A female port, it'd be the most useful as you'd have a cable that could accept anything, but it'd mean you'd always need a minimum of 2 cables.
You'd also have to dissemble to dock connector itself i believe as the OTG pins are different from what's wired in the normal sync/charge cables, you cant simply cut the cable and rewire it, you'd prob have to cut the dock connector open and resolder
If you made a dock to micro usb connector it'd only accept devices that have a micro usb port on it.
Keep in mind usb mode means that the controller would be drawing power from the device itself, while controllers dont draw that much, it's still something to point out
Wouldnt this be all I need?
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B0016RNX2I/ref=pd_sbs_e_4
Would take the normal size usb dongle or cord, fits into the USB slot of the dock itself.
I havnt actually tried it but it sounds like that should work, i know that port is designed for otg connections so i'd assume it'd take care of the hard work.
When on 2.2.2 Did I need a special program for this to work? I know 3.x had native support. Just wondering. =) (Or can any game/emulator with key remapping auto detect)
if it's anything like the hoops needed for the s5 on 2.2.x yes, unless dell included their own code stuff to make it work, then i'm not sure.
I've never attached a controller to anything, wired or not so I can only say that much
Wonder what the app would be called or so, anyone know? I mean I ordered the part, should be here in a few days, then I can report any tests I have with a Rumblepad 2.
Ok tested it out, So far nada. Dont know if its even supposed to work.
Has anyone here hooked a wired controller up to their android? Running Honeycomb now too.
I know people talk about the F710, which I wonder if that works cause its battery powered?
So what's the verdict guys? Can a controller or other USB device be connected to the mini USB port on the docking station and work? If not, will it work if you plug in a mini USB OTG cable (like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-Re...757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6edf5335) into the docking station and then plug the controller into the OTG cable?
So far my verdict is nada.. dont think its supplying power to the usb ports. Now its been said that adapter based ones may work, something where controller is powered by batteries. Tho again. No one ever gives a real confirm.
My next area to branch out is http://www.onlive.com/controller 50$ but you can use a adapter for the pc. However it also works with bluetooth, something that the tablet DOES support and no adapter needed. Since I have the onlive app, least it will work 100% for THAT. Once my tax money comes in, Ill order the controller and see if it can work on emulators and so too. least then we will have 1 solid answer that has some good use. (Since honestly, onlive on the tablet really isnt bad at all!)
Why not bluetooth your ps3 controller though the sixaxis app on the market thats what I've done works great
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I have used my Wii remote that way
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To answer both. If I am not mistaken. PS3 controllers have to be "paired". Which means when you wanna play PS3 or Tablet.. got to re-pair them all the time, correct?
Wii-Motes I know you dont have to re-pair them. However.. one thing I hate... that to use the classic controller.. you need to have the Wiimote laying around somewhere.. then the cable for classic. Seems bulky for normal use.
Both controllers all are battery too. Would be nice for wired solutions. If I do anything wireless, I may as well get that Onlive controller with BT support.
If you have a sixaxis/DS3 dedicated to non-ps3 use: you only have to re-pair it every time you want to use it on a different device.
The sixaxis/ds3 do work in usb mode, at least on pcs. I dont recall if there's a solution to use it in usb mode on android (though i'd imagine it should, as usb mode is trivial to enable)
If you only have a single device to use it with, you only ever need to pair it once and then you're done.
Well, I finally went and tried hooking up a usb hub to my S7, and my results were absolute failures.
I bought an OTG <-> dell 30 pin a while back and a standard OTG <-> dock cable.
I dont have a baseline as I dont know offhand which kernels are specifically tested to work.
It seems to enable the hub (by enable I mean it powers up on detection of a host, it's wall powered)
on my S5 with ICS/Phoenix kernal (which is known to support usb hosting), but nada on my S7 with ICS B4/mod and stock 514.
Can anyone explicitly confirm that the b4 and stock kernals work with host?
I'm pretty sure nothing is happening on either of those, and as it works fine on my S7 it's definitely not bad cables/hardware.
Edit: at least the S5 is even capable of powering the hub itself, and with a dock it can charge at the same time. If it wernt for the terrible HDMI out on it, it would be a full on android pc with the dock.
The S7 on the other hand: I still cant get anything, remotely powered or self powered: it gives no response
I can tell you, yes, ICS kernel does have otg drivers but may not provide power to those devices.
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I've received my P20 Pro this week and am loving the phone so far. However, one big issue remains that i can't seem to get my head around - how to play audio from the phone through my non-Bluetooth car stereo?
I previously had an iPhone 6 where this was easy; plug the phone in to the stereo via USB and it would simultaneously charge and play music from the phone through the car stereo.
But when I plug in the P20 Pro via the same USB port, I can't seem to get audio coming out. I know it's possible - as obviously headphones plug in to the same USB-c port - so is there something I have to turn on or toggle to get it to send audio out?
Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
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I've received my P20 Pro this week and am loving the phone so far. However, one big issue remains that i can't seem to get my head around - how to play audio from the phone through my non-Bluetooth car stereo?
I previously had an iPhone 6 where this was easy; plug the phone in to the stereo via USB and it would simultaneously charge and play music from the phone through the car stereo.
But when I plug in the P20 Pro via the same USB port, I can't seem to get audio coming out. I know it's possible - as obviously headphones plug in to the same USB-c port - so is there something I have to turn on or toggle to get it to send audio out?
Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
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Check you don't have this option enabled in developer options?
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Check you don't have this option enabled in developer options?
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Thanks - I looked and it's not checked. In fact, the headphones work when you plug them in, so it is allowing audio out with certain connections.
It's just when I use the charging lead to connect the phone to the car stereo (USB) - nothing happens. It doesn't even charge, and says "check USB" on the front of the stereo. if I play music when it's connected, it just comes out the phone - which obviously it wouldn't do if it was connected to the stereo.
Do I need a specific audio lead, rather than just the basic charging one that comes with it?
Coming from an iPhone background, it's just the same lead... so I'm struggling to see why this won't work either.
My case was huawei p20 pro generate so much noise and jitter during playing through USB audio connect to Helix dsp, it solved by changing USB speed mode from full speed mode to high speed mode on the Helix dsp USB setting. As my iPhone was working fine on both mode. In case if you can try to change setting on your car stereo system. Try to consult with your car stereo manufacturer.
Hi Slangking, did you already find a solution to use P20 (pro) audio over USB in your car? I'm having the same issue as you, went from the iPhone 6 to p20. Just a cheap USB stick works, and I could even remote spotify on my iPhone with my steer trough USB. Changing the USB output in the developer settings to audio source didn't work
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I did some research and mounting your memory card as a USB Mass Storage will work like explained over here, but I still can't find out how this will work for the internal storage...
UPDATE
I found something called WIRELINQ: Smart Android USB Converter Cable for Car Stereo. Started as a kickstarter project, but are now able to buy. Will try that one out.
I got one of these and found I can't get anything to play through the stereo, the audio plays on the phone speakers but the track info displays on the stereo screen and the steering wheel controls also work, I can disable USB audio streaming via the dashlinq app which makes radio player within dashlinq work properly.. but nothing else works.. have you had any luck?
Thanks for your reply. You are a step ahead of me. I have the Wirelinq cable but couldn't get it to work, not even the track info on my cars stereo display. It recognise the Wirelinq cable, but not my phone. I am in contact with GROM and even tried to install a new firmware update (which I was able to install myself by connecting the cable to my computer), so there last message was:
This is issue of the phone USB Audio output in software not working correctly as standardized by Android's AOSP. You will have to contact Huawei to get support and resolve it on phone's software end.
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Thanks for your reply. You are a step ahead of me. I have the Wirelinq cable but couldn't get it to work, not even the track info on my cars stereo display. It recognise the Wirelinq cable, but not my phone. I am in contact with GROM and even tried to install a new firmware update (which I was able to install myself by connecting the cable to my computer), so there last message was:
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Did you ever get anywhere with this? I'm a new P20 Pro owner (also having switched from iphone 6) and wanting to crack this issue. Thanks.
Not sure if there is a solution. iPhones behave differently when connected to stereos, just like an usb stick. Android devices don't, unfortunately. I am using an AUX cable with the usb-c adapter in my husbands car, or bluetooth streaming in my car.
Bleutooth receiver to AUX
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Did you ever get anywhere with this? I'm a new P20 Pro owner (also having switched from iphone 6) and wanting to crack this issue. Thanks.
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No, it didn't work. Maybe it will if GROM will come out with an update. I've returned my cable and have bought a bluetooth to AUX receiver adapter on eBay for just a few dollar. This actually works very well, you plug the bluetooth adapter in your USB and the cable in your AUX and you can listening wireliss music on each app through bluetooth. The downside is that you won't be able to see your track details, no remote from your steer and the quality is different. But you can still charge you phone with a normal USB cable while listening. It's not a solution, but I got used to it now.
Not a bad idea with the bluetooth to aux!
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Not sure if there is a solution. iPhones behave differently when connected to stereos, just like an usb stick. Android devices don't, unfortunately. I am using an AUX cable with the usb-c adapter in my husbands car, or bluetooth streaming in my car.
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iphones actually don't behave like a usb stick when connected to a stereo. the music is still played on the iphone, but the sound is streamed to the stereo. controls on the stereo actually control the playback on the iphone itself.
with android, to play audio over usb, you need to use mass storage mode, which will behave just like a usb stick.
ios can output digital audio over it's usb cable, which the stereo can receive.
android can output audio through usb-c, but i don't think that it can be used to output audio over the usb cable like iphones can. it might be some protocol that iphones use and android phones don't, but technically it should be possible.
Just stumbled upon this thread as I am in the same situation. Basically, I have a P20 Pro and a Huawei Mediapad M5 Lite that are behaving exactly the same..i.e they cannot play audio from USB to car stereo's USB ports. The internal media can be browsed and played via car stereos interface but you cannot stream music via USB from phone (say Spotify) to car stereo.
USB audio streaming works if I enabled ANDROID AUTO at the car stereo and installed ANDROID AUTO in the phone/tablet. You might ask why not just settle for this setup?
I can, butI I hate so much the AA's "Swipe to Unlock" lock and the changes in the UI when AA is active.
What I want is the plain/original phone interface (without AA) and all audio routed via USB.
Bluetooth, I know is an option, but again, it would be nice if this (USB) can be solved. It seems possible, I think. If AA can switch USB audio streaming on, can other apps or workaround/reverse engineering not?
BTW, i tried playing with the Developer Options, USB Configuration as "MTP or Audio Source" --- no luck here
Just bought a Kenwood DDX6906S receiver for my 2013 GMC Sierra I cannot get anything to work via USB. USB debugging enabled. I feel like I've been going in circles. any help would be super appreciated, TIA
I'm trying to build my own set up out of stuff I happen to have laying around. My car radio is a JVC KW-V30BT that is MHL compatible and I have a s4 active (i537). So far I installed a nice launcher on the phone that gives me a digital speedo and navigation and music... With the JVC Smartphone Control app I don't have to touch the phone at all, I just leave the phone hooked up in the car and control the phone with the touchscreen on the radio. But after getting all that figured out I kinda have another idea.. Is there a way to mirror/cast another device to my s4 while it's hooked up with the mhl cable? When I try it says disconnect mhl cable first. There has to be a way... Any help would be appreciated! S4A has rooted OC7 and I use my daily phone (CAT S60) as a wifi hotspot for data connection. So I thought maybe I could use Allcast or something but it won't let me while it's hooked up with the MHL cable. Does anyone know if this is a hardware or software limitation?
Hello, I have an idea how we can make the current Android Auto completely WIRELESS.
Idea is as follows:
Plug a micro Dongle in the car's USB port.
The Dongle will essentially be a WiFi Tranciever. (it may need custom code/firmware etc.)
The Dongle will talk to the Android Phone over WiFi (Because Bluetooth is already being used by Android Auto).
A custom program will be running on the Android phone to send ALL USB Data to the Dongle using WiFi.
Suggested Dongle models:
Xbee, Arduino with WiFi module, any other similar board, possibly any cheap Chinese WiFi USB dongle available on Ebay/Aliexpress.
Things to consider:
The Car's infotainment must recognize the Dongle when it is plugged in as a "USB device" (not a USB Stick/Flash Drive !!!)
The Dongle may need custom code/firmware that will start sending packets to the car's infotainment as soon as it is connected/powered up/car ignition is on, in order to Emulate a phone running android auto.
In the mean time, the app running on the phone will already be connected to the Dongle and the two will be talking to each other.
I you have any other suggestions, leave a comment bellow.
PS: Such devices (USB Over the Air) are actually available on the market, but are quite bulky. We need something smaller.
But even if it is big, we can use a Micro USB plug like this one with flat cable, that will run in the Phone tray, where the board will be hidden so it will not be visible at all!!! :good::laugh:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000325524998.html
Just cut the other end of the flat cable if needed and solder as necessary.
Again, if you have specific ideas/suggestions leave a comment bellow.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aawireless#/