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tab s2 vs tab s3

Bought the S2 earlier this year and subsequently lost it an an airport so need a new one. Was going to replace it with the same after getting the insurance money but I have now discovered that the seller I got the S2 from is selling the S3 for about 50 quid more. Is it worth the upgrade? Don't think I will have a use of the pen.

Did you see this thread?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/general/upgrade-to-tab-s3-t3627842

No. Thanks.

Eggstones said:
No. Thanks.
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Also, a lot of buyer reviews over at Amazon (81% are 4 or 5 stars):
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-9-7-Inch-Tablet-SM-T820NZSAXAR/dp/B01MRDL916/

Eggstones said:
Bought the S2 earlier this year and subsequently lost it an an airport so need a new one. Was going to replace it with the same after getting the insurance money but I have now discovered that the seller I got the S2 from is selling the S3 for about 50 quid more. Is it worth the upgrade? Don't think I will have a use of the pen.
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Even though the S3 has many teething troubles, for only £50 more, I'd take the punt. When Samsung sort the problems out, you will be paying a lot more than £50 a few years down the line if you want to upgrade.
Maybe find out what the issues are and ask yourself if any are deal breakers? :angel:

Masteryates said:
Even though the S3 has many teething troubles, for only £50 more, I'd take the punt. When Samsung sort the problems out, you will be paying a lot more than £50 a few years down the line if you want to upgrade.
Maybe find out what the issues are and ask yourself if any are deal breakers? :angel:
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That is just the problem, I don't really know what the niggles/problems are.

Eggstones said:
That is just the problem, I don't really know what the niggles/problems are.
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Time to get yourself to the S3 thread then Eggstones. :highfive:
If you do take the plunge, why not come back here and let us know how you are getting on

Will do. There seems to be a weird magnet issue going on that I don't fully understand.

Go for the S3 as you still have a future software upgrade path. The S2 will likely have come to its final upgrade

ashyx said:
Go for the S3 as you still have a future software upgrade path. The S2 will likely have come to its final upgrade
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Agreed ashyx. :highfive:
One slight chink of light is the fact that the 2016 S2 8" version is still the most recent 8" flagship Samsung device. Maybe it will get its third OS update?

Don't you think 50 quid more is too good to be true?
S3 is a whopping 599.00 and if you shop around maybe you can get it for 540.00 at a pinch. S2 easily get it for 300.00 so if I was offered the S3 for 350.00 I'd be asking some questions .... u less of course you are talking second hand ... but even then.

For me, the S3 is overpriced for what it is. I someone like Huawei got hold of a Samsung OLED panel, it could really upset the market and drive down the price of the S3.

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For me, the S3 is overpriced for what it is. I someone like Huawei got hold of a Samsung OLED panel, it could really upset the market and drive down the price of the S3.
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Samsung are really taking the 'p' these days, there is no limit to what they think they can charge. The Note 8 had me absolutely gobsmacked at nearly £900. What's next a £1500 phone?
Yeah £600 for a tablet is pretty high and given the features I think it's OTT frankly but if people pay Samsung will continue to dip into your wallet. Embedded batteries makes the £600 or £860 Note 8 still a 2 year deal as batteries don't last and I hate the fact that they did that for the phones in particular - I value my note 4 with spare batteries which I can swap in when needed and there are so many times when not having one would have been a major inconvenience.
I'll look for other brands - it's always best to go with the guys who have to try harder to get your business. When they get to Samsung status it's "take it or leave it" attitude but thats' to be seen everywhere sadly.

louiscar said:
Samsung are really taking the 'p' these days, there is no limit to what they think they can charge. The Note 8 had me absolutely gobsmacked at nearly £900. What's next a £1500 phone?
Yeah £600 for a tablet is pretty high and given the features I think it's OTT frankly but if people pay Samsung will continue to dip into your wallet. Embedded batteries makes the £600 or £860 Note 8 still a 2 year deal as batteries don't last and I hate the fact that they did that for the phones in particular - I value my note 4 with spare batteries which I can swap in when needed and there are so many times when not having one would have been a major inconvenience.
I'll look for other brands - it's always best to go with the guys who have to try harder to get your business. When they get to Samsung status it's "take it or leave it" attitude but thats' to be seen everywhere sadly.
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Agree with everything you say Louis. :highfive:
I bought the Mrs a Huawei mediapad M3 open box for only £142 in the USA a few weeks ago so I will get to see it in person in a few weeks time. With a high end Kirin SoC, 4GB ram things like a brilliant FP scanner and even a notification LED, it could give my S2 a run for its money. The icing on the cake would be an OLED screen but it seems Samsung are not selling these to others at tablet size.

Let's hope it turns out to be good. I think I need to go look at these offerings and see if the screens are a deal breaker or not. I got my tab second hand and because the screen was a good contender for the ipad retina. And I do appreciate it since the tab is my bedtime movie theatre
I'm sure the other guys will catch up .. Hopefully sooner or later, but if I have to stick with Kim Sami I guess I will go the ebay route and hope to find batteries as I did with the tab s.

US Preorder Delays

Just got this email from Best Buy... Anyone else delayed? There's a small thread on reddit too. Maybe there aren't that many preorders...
https://i.imgur.com/q8OEjqL.png

Haven't you heard? The NSA/FBI/CIA declared Huawei devices "bad" last week. Maybe since then, there was a loss of demand? Or perhaps the converse is true and there was a spike of demand and they can't keep up?
Anyway, whatever the cause for delay, that stinks for those who preordered. I'm really interested in this phone, and was hoping to start seeing reviews from US people. I also noticed on Amazon it now says "ships when available in 1-2 days."

Ordered on Amazon with $150 gift card from Amazon for free 2 weeks ago, got it today, using on straight talk gsm, phone is super smooth and very fast, especially fingerprint touch to unlock is extremely fast, came with screen protector installed and also a transparent phone case included, fast charging is very fast.

Crap I should have gone through Amazon then BestBuy still says they'll have my device on Thursday

Yes delayed as well through Best Buy, and I ordered the day it became available.

preordered through amazon and got mine yesterday, the grey one now says 1-2 months, they have a couple of the blue ones left, they probably sold all their advance stock in preorder.
Great phone btw, few quirks and the camera could be better but its excellent.

tmzbeme said:
preordered through amazon and got mine yesterday, the grey one now says 1-2 months, they have a couple of the blue ones left, they probably sold all their advance stock in preorder.
Great phone btw, few quirks and the camera could be better but its excellent.
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Delivery on Presidents day?

On the truck today for Best Buy preorder.

I just got my Best Buy PreOrder. The ETA was for Thursday. Got the message that it was ready for pickup this morning. Got my Best buy gift card a few hours later

I preordered on Amazon the day preorders started - originally was slated for Feb 20th delivery but i actually got it release day the 18th. Also placed a best buy preorder as a backup which was ready on 18th as well, but i cancelled since i got it from amazon sooner than expected

I ordered the international dual sim version on Amazon and got it quickly. Have had it over a month now. Has a couple of little quirks, but overall I'm impressed with the battery life and smoothness.

I know everyone has their own taste, but for anyone living in the States and has the option to buy the Google Pixel anywhere you want and instead you choose Huawei? For me it's a mystery beyond the laws of physics, Pixel beats Huawei on everything except the looks of the phone.
OK I know there has been some trouble with the pixel screens, but why would you choose a phone that is inferior?
I have had the mate for 3 months now, and the phone drives me crazy with Huaweis way of doing it, they are totally different from the other manufacturers. So many bugs and they haven't fixed a single one of them.

diigiital said:
I know everyone has their own taste, but for anyone living in the States and has the option to buy the Google Pixel anywhere you want and instead you choose Huawei? For me it's a mystery beyond the laws of physics, Pixel beats Huawei on everything except the looks of the phone.
OK I know there has been some trouble with the pixel screens, but why would you choose a phone that is inferior?
I have had the mate for 3 months now, and the phone drives me crazy with Huaweis way of doing it, they are totally different from the other manufacturers. So many bugs and they haven't fixed a single one of them.
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I don't understand why people think that their opinion MUST be there right one..
But, having just bought a M10P, I can happily answer that for you.
- Better camera (the dual camera setup for sure makes better shots, combined with optical zoom and a better portrait mode)
- Non rounded screen corners (opinion, but I can't stand the corners)
- More Ram (6gb vs 4gb)
- Kirin 790 as fast or faster as the SD835
- Bigger battery (as I type, 3:50 SOT, still at 69% left...)
- Cat 18 modem vs Cat 15
- Same size screen, smaller body (not much, but still)
- 20+W fast charging
- IR blaster (seriously.. not having to grab a remote when my phone is nearby.. sweet..)
- Dedicated AI assistance chip (again, does some.smart things with photos and translation)
- Stupidity fast fingerprint reader (not sure if the pixel is as fast.. but this speed really impressed me)
- Desktop mode when using HDMI out
- I love the design over the XL..
I have no doubt you will try to argue my points, but they are my valid reasons, and I have no complaints or second guesses on my purchase. I got it for 650 (800+150 gift card from Best buy), and feel the value is just fine too. Sorry, but the world would be borring if we all thought the same.

diigiital said:
I know everyone has their own taste, but for anyone living in the States and has the option to buy the Google Pixel anywhere you want and instead you choose Huawei? For me it's a mystery beyond the laws of physics, Pixel beats Huawei on everything except the looks of the phone.
OK I know there has been some trouble with the pixel screens, but why would you choose a phone that is inferior?
I have had the mate for 3 months now, and the phone drives me crazy with Huaweis way of doing it, they are totally different from the other manufacturers. So many bugs and they haven't fixed a single one of them.
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Inferior is your opinion. But my biggest reasons are storage, price and battery. That is when Amazon finally ships mine. Ordered on the 4th and they still haven't shipped it.
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Very tempted for the Best Buy offer + my birthday coupon, but is it worth it?

I got my Note 8 last year through Best Buy with Verizon, and there was a sweet promotion that pretty much rendered my Note 8 to only cost $306 by the end of my two year device payment plan. It's my main phone use of today.
About 3 weeks ago, I found someone selling a Galaxy S8+ of a few month's use with LOTS of charging accessories for only $200! I went to pick that up because it was such a steal and it would be cool to have a backup phone to say the least.
So now it's the month of August, and Best Buy awarded me a 10% off coupon on select items. Apparently, it works for the Note9! And the trade in they're offering is $450 for an S8+/Note8 towards the new Note9. So $100 off + $450 = $550 off a $1000 smartphone! And if I am able to sell the AKG headphones, this new phone is practically a few hundred dollars!
But then I'm thinking to myself...is it really worth it to switch to the Note 9 as my main? I can sell away my Note8 for extra money back in this overall "dilemma" and I'll just continue to make payments as if nothing happened because I doubt Verizon will know whether I have the phone on hand or not. lol
What do you guys think? I have until Thursday evening to jump in on this. Is this worth it for the amazing deal I've found here?

Some speculation, but the terms on the Best Buy trade-in offer mention it's via a gift card and coupon. I'm not familiar with how Best Buy applies coupons, but it could be that the two coupons might not stack if this is the case... unsure. Otherwise, I think it's a decent deal, yes.

vacaloca said:
Some speculation, but the terms on the Best Buy trade-in offer mention it's via a gift card and coupon. I'm not familiar with how Best Buy applies coupons, but it could be that the two coupons might not stack if this is the case... unsure. Otherwise, I think it's a decent deal, yes.
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I was on chat with a Best Buy representative last night for an hour to verify everything, and he told me to keep screenshots and come into the store to place the order while having them process the trade in so it would all work.

A Note 9 for sub $600.00 is worth it, just from a math perspective.
Here is the breakdown you provided. You paid $350(Note 8) + $200(S8+) = $550 All-in.
If you got the Note 9 it would breakdown $1000(Note 9) - ($100(coupon)-$350(S8 Trade In))=$550 for a Note 9; if you sell your Note 8 for more than $550 you profit.
If not you still win because the most you will have spent for 2 banging phones is $900.

chavist said:
A Note 9 for sub $600.00 is worth it, just from a math perspective.
Here is the breakdown you provided. You paid $350(Note 8) + $200(S8+) = $550 All-in.
If you got the Note 9 it would breakdown $1000(Note 9) - ($100(coupon)-$350(S8 Trade In))=$550 for a Note 9; if you sell your Note 8 for more than $550 you profit.
If not you still win because the most you will have spent for 2 banging phones is $900.
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Oh uh, the Best Buy deal only allowed one trade in device, so it would be the S8+. That phone is eligible for $450 towards the Note 9. The birthday coupon takes off 10% from the regular price, so that's $100. That's how it came to be 550 off the phone. The Note 8 could just sit with me or I can sell it either way. Hehe

Of course it's a great deal! This phone is substantially better than the Note8 in my opinion (as a Note8 user/lover), if nothing else just for the battery! Although there is a lot more I am excited about (pen with BT for photos, more storage, more RAM, new color, contrast with signature ink, improved camera, stereo speakers, etc.).
I'm not 100% sure how it works, but you may have to pay off Verizon for the Note8 though. I thought I had heard that if you try and buy a phone that has not been paid off, it won't work. In other words, you could not sell your Note8 and have the other person stick their SIM in it. I could be mistaken, but I would look into it!

PsiPhiDan said:
Of course it's a great deal! This phone is substantially better than the Note8 in my opinion (as a Note8 user/lover), if nothing else just for the battery! Although there is a lot more I am excited about (pen with BT for photos, more storage, more RAM, new color, contrast with signature ink, improved camera, stereo speakers, etc.).
I'm not 100% sure how it works, but you may have to pay off Verizon for the Note8 though. I thought I had heard that if you try and buy a phone that has not been paid off, it won't work. In other words, you could not sell your Note8 and have the other person stick their SIM in it. I could be mistaken, but I would look into it!
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Nice to hear from a fellow Note8 user. I was debating about if it is really worth it, but I would really like a fatter battery for sure!
I'm not going to do anything to hand over the Note 8 though, so passing up the S8+ is my full intentions.

GigaSPX said:
Nice to hear from a fellow Note8 user. I was debating about if it is really worth it, but I would really like a fatter battery for sure!
I'm not going to do anything to hand over the Note 8 though, so passing up the S8+ is my full intentions.
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I actually also have an Orchid Gray Verizon model. It is easily my favorite phone that I've ever had. The ONLY things keeping it from perfection (in my opinion) are: (1) battery size, (2) lack of stereo speakers, (3) fingerprint scanner annoyance. Those have all been fixed (along with the obvious processor upgrade and camera upgrade and pen upgrade), so I am 100% positive this will be a dream phone for me. There are literally no other phones I even care about or am jealous of (I often get phone envy...). This thing is going to be amazing, which is why I splurged and got the 512GB model to make it the ultimate dream phone, future-proof phone (in case I keep it for a long time!).

PsiPhiDan said:
I actually also have an Orchid Gray Verizon model. It is easily my favorite phone that I've ever had. The ONLY things keeping it from perfection (in my opinion) are: (1) battery size, (2) lack of stereo speakers, (3) fingerprint scanner annoyance. Those have all been fixed (along with the obvious processor upgrade and camera upgrade and pen upgrade), so I am 100% positive this will be a dream phone for me. There are literally no other phones I even care about or am jealous of (I often get phone envy...). This thing is going to be amazing, which is why I splurged and got the 512GB model to make it the ultimate dream phone, future-proof phone (in case I keep it for a long time!).
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I think I'm going to do it, just hoping I won't get screwed over in store saying it can't be applied even though it shows it for me online.

I loved my note8 until it was stolen...
Anyway, I pre-ordered from Samsung. I drove over to Costco and they are giving away some type of $70.00 charging kit with your purchase but you must finance the phone which means a query to your credit report. For some reason you can't just purchase the phone outright.
Bestbuy did not have any deals on this phone. I spoke with their Samsung rep who demoed the BT from the other side of the store and took photos... Pretty damned amazing!
B&H Photo/Video has a pretty nice deal but I didn't see any way to trade in your old phone with them. + they are charging you NYC Tax which is pretty damned high!
Anyone know where the best deal is on this phone? For now, I'll stick with my order from Samsung's website. They still haven't charged my CC as of this time which makes me think that maybe I won't be getting my phone on Friday. UGH! Since my Note 8 was stolen, I've been without a phone for the past month and it's been a pretty damned painful month but I survived .

Secondlaw said:
I loved my note8 until it was stolen...
Anyway, I pre-ordered from Samsung. I drove over to Costco and they are giving away some type of $70.00 charging kit with your purchase but you must finance the phone which means a query to your credit report. For some reason you can't just purchase the phone outright.
Bestbuy did not have any deals on this phone. I spoke with their Samsung rep who demoed the BT from the other side of the store and took photos... Pretty damned amazing!
B&H Photo/Video has a pretty nice deal but I didn't see any way to trade in your old phone with them. + they are charging you NYC Tax which is pretty damned high!
Anyone know where the best deal is on this phone? For now, I'll stick with my order from Samsung's website. They still haven't charged my CC as of this time which makes me think that maybe I won't be getting my phone on Friday. UGH! Since my Note 8 was stolen, I've been without a phone for the past month and it's been a pretty damned painful month but I survived .
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Where are you located? The deals I'm trying to take advantage of is available through Best Buy themselves.
How did your phone get stolen? You can't track it?

GigaSPX said:
Where are you located? The deals I'm trying to take advantage of is available through Best Buy themselves.
How did your phone get stolen? You can't track it?
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I tracked it then they turned it off. From here, I went online and hopefully deleted all of my stuff that was on there. Unfortunately, my micro-SD Card was not encrypted so if you see me on Redtube be forewarned, it might not be pretty...
I went into a local BestBuy store. The sales guy didn't have 1 deal for me other than what was already on the Samsung website.

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I got my Note 8 last year through Best Buy with Verizon, and there was a sweet promotion that pretty much rendered my Note 8 to only cost $306 by the end of my two year device payment plan. It's my main phone use of today.
About 3 weeks ago, I found someone selling a Galaxy S8+ of a few month's use with LOTS of charging accessories for only $200! I went to pick that up because it was such a steal and it would be cool to have a backup phone to say the least.
So now it's the month of August, and Best Buy awarded me a 10% off coupon on select items. Apparently, it works for the Note9! And the trade in they're offering is $450 for an S8+/Note8 towards the new Note9. So $100 off + $450 = $550 off a $1000 smartphone! And if I am able to sell the AKG headphones, this new phone is practically a few hundred dollars!
But then I'm thinking to myself...is it really worth it to switch to the Note 9 as my main? I can sell away my Note8 for extra money back in this overall "dilemma" and I'll just continue to make payments as if nothing happened because I doubt Verizon will know whether I have the phone on hand or not. lol
What do you guys think? I have until Thursday evening to jump in on this. Is this worth it for the amazing deal I've found here?
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I have written this before and will write it again. You guys and gals in the USA are spoiled with Smart phones. The deals you get are amazing. No such deals exist in Southern Europe in fact I may add the whole of Europe.
In this country we have to pay top price for smart phones.
My note 7 (both of them) came with nothing. S8+ came with nothing, Note 8 came two months later with a DEX. This time after numerous complaints to Samsung in this country we managed the amazing deal of trading in our 12 month old Note 8 costing 1,020.00€ for the Note 9 costing 1,030.00€. We got 500.00€ deducted. Never known such a deal and probably never will again! :highfive:
In your case you should jump at such an offer. :good:
Ryland

Alright, just to update:
I went to my local Best Buy to do the whole process in store, and the employee helping me was confused at my coupon code working for the unlocked Note 9. He called the manager and 2 other employees came and huddled up to see what was going on. They were calling me out about the Unlocked Phones being in their exclusion list, but I told them it worked in my Cart online, and showed them all the screens and from the app. Then I told them to try using the code on another unlocked phone they have available in store that was regular priced. They pulled out a Galaxy J7 phone that was $220, applied the code.....BAM! $22 SAVINGS! THE CODE WORKED!
The reaction on all their faces were priceless! So I go ahead and placed my order for pickup, and they processed the S8+ I had on have for $450. Now I just have to wait for tomorrow to pick up!

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Alright, just to update:
I went to my local Best Buy to do the whole process in store, and the employee helping me was confused at my coupon code working for the unlocked Note 9. He called the manager and 2 other employees came and huddled up to see what was going on. They were calling me out about the Unlocked Phones being in their exclusion list, but I told them it worked in my Cart online, and showed them all the screens and from the app. Then I told them to try using the code on another unlocked phone they have available in store that was regular priced. They pulled out a Galaxy J7 phone that was $220, applied the code.....BAM! $22 SAVINGS! THE CODE WORKED!
The reaction on all their faces were priceless! So I go ahead and placed my order for pickup, and they processed the S8+ I had on have for $450. Now I just have to wait for tomorrow to pick up!
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That's awesome! I feel like BB always tries to screw people over and limit deals, so I am happy to hear you won the battle!

PsiPhiDan said:
That's awesome! I feel like BB always tries to screw people over and limit deals, so I am happy to hear you won the battle!
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The taste of victory is pretty sweet! ?
And I asked them about my Note8 currently being in a device payment plan. Really, I could still sell the phone for profit and still continue paying it off at the end of the two years because it's easy to just switch Sims and just go on with your day.

My Best Buy order switched to "Ready for Pickup" today, so excitedly, I drove into the store to, you know, Pickup my phone.
However, they said I wasn't able to pickup until tomorrow. Kinda frustrating to say the least.

has anyone noticed how fast the proce for new is dropping?

I'm taking about the unlocked version, not the carrier 'price fixed'. On eBay and Amazon in the US it's dropped to $860 for the dual SIM model, which is close to $150 off, and it's falling every day. This doesn't happen to Apple, often happens to other Android devices, but is much faster than the Note 8 last year. Demand must not be so high for it...
BTW I have the note 8 too. While this device is better in every way, in most cases it's just incremental in my view. Has I known this I'm not sure I would have bought the 9, at least, may have waited longer.
Just my own view...

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I'm taking about the unlocked version, not the carrier 'price fixed'. On eBay and Amazon in the US it's dropped to $860 for the dual SIM model, which is close to $150 off, and it's falling every day. This doesn't happen to Apple, often happens to other Android devices, but is much faster than the Note 8 last year. Demand must not be so high for it...
BTW I have the note 8 too. While this device is better in every way, in most cases it's just incremental in my view. Has I known this I'm not sure I would have bought the 9, at least, may have waited longer.
Just my own view...
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Do me a favour if possible, draw up a price chart monthly preferably. Cheers
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DS always goes down in price first. I'm calling $800 and $1000 within 3 months for snapdragon models.

Electronics basically lose 50% of their value within a year, regardless of brand. A few exceptions exist, but not many.
They're not an investment. ?
I sold my $960 Note8 for $480 a few weeks ago. I was fine with that. Seems about right.

I bought the note 9 from Switzerland last Wednesday for £719, today it is down to £689 haha, I could have waited a week

General [INDIA] Galaxy S21 Ultra news, pre-order, offers etc. discussion thread.

Too early to believe, but Samsung Opera House(Bengaluru) has started taking blind prebooking for the Galaxy S21 series already as per THIS article.
Unsurprisingly India would get the Exynos 2100 SoC in this series and I just hope it performs on par with Snapdragon 888.

Why would they make the screen smaller for the s21 ultra than the existing one ? No one seems to have mentioned this.

yeah its only .100" smaller, too me that`s not a big thing for me, but the thing is it will have the LTPO display which I guess is supposed to give better contrast to black colors, also I`m not sure but i have heard talk of the fingerprint reader being 2x faster...... so well see, I`ll be ordering one in the unlocked in black the 512gb version

In the USA you can register for your S21 in the Samsung Shop app. Looks like you get an extra $70 store credit for registering. Can't wait to get the S21 ultra!

droidrev71 said:
In the USA you can register for your S21 in the Samsung Shop app. Looks like you get an extra $70 store credit for registering. Can't wait to get the S21 ultra!
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The thing I like about Samsung out here in India is that with perks of cashbacks & coupons(if prebooked) the pricing becomes eqivalent to the USA pricing(has been so far) ..
I'm finding the news [email protected] S21 series interesting too. Will get "Exynos" but highly it feels like it would be on par this time around, if not better, excluding the GPU.

I seriously hope the LTPO on the S21 series is far more superior to the one on Note 20U.
I had serious banding/green tint issues and a horrible battery drain problem due to it. The 60fps video recording also had hunting issues even with laser auto focus.
I'm back to S20U, the display feels a lot more stable and a long lasting battery.

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yeah its only .100" smaller, too me that`s not a big thing for me, but the thing is it will have the LTPO display which I guess is supposed to give better contrast to black colors, also I`m not sure but i have heard talk of the fingerprint reader being 2x faster...... so well see, I`ll be ordering one in the unlocked in black the 512gb version
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We're coming from S10+ getting the Ultra cause of the specs and my husband likes the camera features. It'll probably be to big for me but I am getting it. We won't upgrade for a while so I want the best of the bunch.

Do you think there will be any discounts with pricing if you don't trade in? I have a S9+ right now and am waffling back and forth between getting the S21 Ultra or getting a Note 20 Ultra ($800 thru work).

Have pre-reserved for S21 series because I thought we'd get the Buds Pro and Smart tag as preorder offers alongwith the free case. That is what the leakers had said a few days back but not it seems Buds Pro won't be part of the offer. Also coupled with missing charger and possible missing SD card and extra charges for SPen, will it be worth spending so much extra to sell my Note 20 U for the S21U?
P.S. The only reason I was willing to upgrade was because my Note 20 U is getting heated up a lot + because of the Exynos 2100 finally catching up to SD.

zaydenQ said:
Have pre-reserved for S21 series because I thought we'd get the Buds Pro and Smart tag as preorder offers alongwith the free case. That is what the leakers had said a few days back but not it seems Buds Pro won't be part of the offer. Also coupled with missing charger and possible missing SD card and extra charges for SPen, will it be worth spending so much extra to sell my Note 20 U for the S21U?
P.S. The only reason I was willing to upgrade was because my Note 20 U is getting heated up a lot + because of the Exynos 2100 finally catching up to SD.
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You got the VIP pass for the next Galaxy after you pre reserved it?
In India prebooking is of no use, last time for the Note 20U the cashback and freebies were offered even to customers who did not prebook and bought the phone well after the prebook purchase window. (craze for flagships in India are at an all time low, thanks to OnePlus and Samsung themselves).
Also the Note 20U was up in the corporate program with 5% discount in a matter of few days including the 9k cashback and freebies.
I will get the S21U only during the first week of Feb.

I'm expecting the price to be around 90k for S21U 256gig, anything more than that, I might as well wait for Z flip 2/3 later in April.

Kiran-Kumar said:
You got the VIP pass for the next Galaxy after you pre reserved it?
In India prebooking is of no use, last time for the Note 20U the cashback and freebies were offered even to customers who did not prebook and bought the phone well after the prebook purchase window. (craze for flagships in India are at an all time low, thanks to OnePlus and Samsung themselves).
Also the Note 20U was up in the corporate program with 5% discount in a matter of few days including the 9k cashback and freebies.
I will get the S21U only during the first week of Feb.
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No I didn't get any VIP pass. Was I supposed to? If I don't like what I see tomorrow, I am going to just refund my ₹2000 and wait for Feb/March to buy it. The only thing keeping me from the flip/fold is that the camera is always a generation behind in these devices.

I for one, do no find these "pre-registering"(or any other name) hulabaloos fascinating at all given that it's a Samsung flagship.
Irrespective of card/cash or other payment methods, I've been getting Samsung flagships on the very 1st day of market release buying from small retailers for a much lower price than the price quoted by bigger retailers or the biggest retailers with a fixed price or buying directly from Samsung online or offline for quite sometime now. The cost everytime turns out to be the lowest this way in comparison to the cost combined with any other CC/DC cashbacks/corporate offers/exchange offers/finance schemes etc... you name it.
Samsung tends(or "pretends" to be precise) to be strict with such retailers but being consumers all we need is a genuinely sourced product and a proper invoice. It makes sense because once we want to sell it later, the resale value will not at all differ based on which store we bought it from.
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In my case, prebooking offers are always applicable in the first place as one or the other re-seller does pre-booking taking the required credentials after me getting bombarded with calls soon after official announcement of the flagship.

Virgo_Guy said:
I for one, do no find these "pre-registering"(or any other name) hulabaloos fascinating at all given that it's a Samsung flagship.
Irrespective of card/cash or other payment methods, I've been getting Samsung flagships on the very 1st day of market release buying from small retailers for a much lower price than the price quoted by bigger retailers or the biggest retailers with a fixed price or buying directly from Samsung online or offline for quite sometime now. The cost everytime turns out to be the lowest this way in comparison to the cost combined with any other CC/DC cashbacks/corporate offers/exchange offers/finance schemes etc... you name it.
Samsung tends(or "pretends" to be precise) to be strict with such retailers but being consumers all we need is a genuinely sourced product and a proper invoice. It makes sense because once we want to sell it later, the resale value will not at all differ based on which store we bought it from.
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In my case, prebooking offers are always applicable in the first place as one or the other re-seller does pre-booking taking the required credentials after me getting bombarded with calls soon after official announcement of the flagship.
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Smaller retailer like non Samsung but authorized dealers like Sangeetha Mobiles, Chroma, Reliance Digital?
By how much you get a discount on the selling price, I have never tried this as I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
I kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes

Kiran-Kumar said:
Smaller retailer like non Samsung but authorized dealers like Sangeetha Mobiles, Croma, Reliance Digital?
By how much you get a discount on the selling price, I have never tried this as I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
I kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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No not those big formats, they don't as they don't need to and they can't either. Smart cafés can but they will not.
Instead, approach a few small multibrand players if you have time for it. They need flagship buyers to stay alive in the eyes of big brands for their own promotion/survival and to do so, they let go of it for extremely thin margins.
I happened to purchase two N20U units costing 90k each from two diff. sellers(when it was 1st released) - that's one example.

Virgo_Guy said:
No not those big formats, they don't as they don't need to and they can't either. Smart cafés can but they will not.
Instead, approach a few small multibrand players if you have time for it. They need flagship buyers to stay alive in the eyes of big brands for their own promotion/survival and to do so, they let go of it for extremely thin margins.
I happened to purchase two N20U units costing 90k each from two diff. sellers(when it was 1st released) - that's one example.
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Thank you...Will go out and look for such small time dealers tomorrow and establish a comfort zone before end of this month.

zaydenQ said:
No I didn't get any VIP pass. Was I supposed to? If I don't like what I see tomorrow, I am going to just refund my ₹2000 and wait for Feb/March to buy it. The only thing keeping me from the flip/fold is that the camera is always a generation behind in these devices.
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Thatz true, the cameras on the flip and fold were bad.
Since we do not have a Note 21 this year, hope flip and fold are equipped with better camera system.

Kiran-Kumar said:
....... I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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AFAIK, Samsung smart cafe franchises actually get the highest profit margins for each product they sell compared to other resellers. And it's the marketing skills and subsequent illusions created by the staff that make one feel awkward to ask for a discount.... Nope? The one running the franchise CAN give big discounts, but doesn't want to. They actually ended up giving me discounts a few times in the past but then I stopped visiting them lately as altogether I don't find it worth it.

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AFAIK, Samsung smart cafe franchises actually get the highest profit margins for each product they sell compared to other resellers. And it's the marketing skills and subsequent illusions created by the staff that make one feel awkward to ask for a discount.... Nope? The one running the franchise CAN give big discounts, but doesn't want to. They actually ended up giving me discounts a few times in the past but then I stopped visiting them lately as altogether I don't find it worth it.
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I have shortlisted a few small time detailers, will visit them tomorrow...btw Amazon has already started selling S21plus/ultra cases. They also have a video which shows the phone in its entirety
ESR Metal Kickstand Case Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 6.8-Inch 2021, Slim Silicone with Matte Finish Portrait and Landscape Stand Back Cover -Translucent Black : Amazon.in: Electronics
ESR Metal Kickstand Case Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 6.8-Inch 2021, Slim Silicone with Matte Finish Portrait and Landscape Stand Back Cover -Translucent Black : Amazon.in: Electronics
www.amazon.in

No microsd card slot....pretty much I'm out of it. thank you Samsung