When you move the phone slightly the underdisplay fingerprint glows, can anybody tell me how to turn it off? I want it to goow only when I press on the phone, is this possible?
Doesn't seem so, as it's the only way to know where to put your finger.
It seems to be implemented at the "hardware level".
I'd you mean the fingerprint icon that shows up when you pick the phone up, you can't disable it currently.
Ahmad Shawawreh said:
When you move the phone slightly the underdisplay fingerprint glows, can anybody tell me how to turn it off? I want it to goow only when I press on the phone, is this possible?
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RedWave31 said:
Doesn't seem so, as it's the only way to know where to put your finger.
It seems to be implemented at the "hardware level".
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Mohammed779 said:
I'd you mean the fingerprint icon that shows up when you pick the phone up, you can't disable it currently.
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OP, which firmware are you running? I'm on EU rom and there used to be a bug, which resulted in being a workaround to disable the fingerprint icon.
However now there is a dedicated setting, see attached, which allows turning off the icon
cd993 said:
OP, which firmware are you running? I'm on EU rom and there used to be a bug, which resulted in being a workaround to disable the fingerprint icon.
However now there is a dedicated setting, see attached, which allows turning off the icon
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Damn, i might flash this rom just for this feature, it's super annoying at night, and it keep activating the screen in my pocket.
Can you flash it over the global rom, or does it require a wipe? (probably..)
Gokh said:
Damn, i might flash this rom just for this feature, it's super annoying at night, and it keep activating the screen in my pocket.
Can you flash it over the global rom, or does it require a wipe? (probably..)
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Hmm given the rom is different, I'd say you may run into issues. But with that said, worth a shot! If dirty flashing, perhaps wipe system and the caches, then flash rom and magisk (if rooting), and keep those fingers crossed!
Any issues then yeah do a clean install
RedWave31 said:
Doesn't seem so, as it's the only way to know where to put your finger.
It seems to be implemented at the "hardware level".
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Does seem somewhat like this because if that and the ambient display is disabled, the fingerprint doesn't respond from screen off. But if that and/or ambient display is enabled, it works. But at least something has to be turned on keeping at least some part of the screen awake.
I chose to enable ambient but disable fingerprint icon because ambient goes around the whole screen giving me peace of mind from burn in unlike the icon
Sent from my Xiaomi MI 9 using XDA Labs
cd993 said:
OP, which firmware are you running? I'm on EU rom and there used to be a bug, which resulted in being a workaround to disable the fingerprint icon.
However now there is a dedicated setting, see attached, which allows turning off the icon
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I'm running on the global room not the EU one
Would you recommend me installing the EU room?
I like everything about the phone, but if they would tweak the SOT usage
Ahmad Shawawreh said:
I'm running on the global room not the EU one
Would you recommend me installing the EU room?
I like everything about the phone, but if they would tweak the SOT usage
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Yeah I recommend the weekly EU roms for sure. I've not tried the global ones, but this EU one is great, with weekly updates and great features. Definitely worth a try!
Check my battery thread on the Discussion area on XDA for my battery saving tips
cd993 said:
OP, which firmware are you running? I'm on EU rom and there used to be a bug, which resulted in being a workaround to disable the fingerprint icon.
However now there is a dedicated setting, see attached, which allows turning off the icon
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Ohhh man, I have been looking to switch this annoying feature off for ages and you just showed me how to do it. Awesome and thank you
perryano said:
Ohhh man, I have been looking to switch this annoying feature off for ages and you just showed me how to do it. Awesome and thank you
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You're welcome!
Related
Hi there,
So I've been running a few rom with different kernels on my N6 in the last month and I noticed that the "double-tap to wake" feature was not always working as expected. Seems like the double tap is not always detected right away and I have to do it several times in order to wake the device.
Some times it will work at first try and some others it won't work at all.
Is there any definitive fix for this behaviour ?
Aanze said:
Hi there,
So I've been running a few rom with different kernels on my N6 in the last month and I noticed that the "double-tap to wake" feature was not always working as expected. Seems like the double tap is not always detected right away and I have to do it several times in order to wake the device.
Some times it will work at first try and some others it won't work at all.
Is there any definitive fix for this behaviour ?
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Known problem with tap to wake. I use swipe to wake and it works fine.
Thanks for the hint, I'm afraid swep to wake will wake the device in my pocket more easily
But I'll give a shot anyway !
Aanze said:
Hi there,
So I've been running a few rom with different kernels on my N6 in the last month and I noticed that the "double-tap to wake" feature was not always working as expected.
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You could try a recompiled power.shamu.so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57770016&postcount=58
NLBeev said:
You could try a recompiled power.shamu.so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57770016&postcount=58
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If read the full thread it is still hit and miss and that file may not even be the same .so file for 5.1.1. That zip was made in December for 5.0.2.
prdog1 said:
If read the full thread it is still hit and miss and that file may not even be the same .so file for 5.1.1. That zip was made in December for 5.0.2.
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I had the same problem and downloaded the attachted zip file shamu_doubletap2wake-s.zip.
After flashing this zip, dt2w works with stock 5.1.1. on my N6 (LMY47Z)
Edit:
and franco's kernel r30
NLBeev said:
You could try a recompiled power.shamu.so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57770016&postcount=58
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This is the cause of the issue and I suspect why google didn't release it. Kernel implementation is much better but actually sweep to wake is much safer in the pocket than double tap.
danarama said:
This is the cause of the issue and I suspect why google didn't release it. Kernel implementation is much better but actually sweep to wake is much safer in the pocket than double tap.
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OK. So I was lucky. Because for me it was a solution for a N6 with stock rom.
NLBeev said:
OK. So I was lucky. Because for me it was a solution for a N6 with stock rom.
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I use stock rom but custom kernel. Have options for both double tap and sweep to wake.
NLBeev said:
OK. So I was lucky. Because for me it was a solution for a N6 with stock rom.
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It's unreliable for everyone who uses it, except you maybe? There might be a timing knack to it
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It's unreliable for everyone who uses it, except you maybe? There might be a timing knack to it
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it was more or less reliable for me, too reliable actually. when it got warm around here, i started carrying the phone in my back pocket instead of jacket pocket, and it kept waking in my back pocket. so i disabled double tap to wake, permanently.
simms22 said:
it was more or less reliable for me, too reliable actually. when it got warm around here, i started carrying the phone in my back pocket instead of jacket pocket, and it kept waking in my back pocket. so i disabled double tap to wake, permanently.
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Yeah between that and ambient display, pocket wake is a huge problem. But for double tapping when you want to wake it up is not as reliable. 50% for some..or 3rd tap not 2nd.
danarama said:
Yeah between that and ambient display, pocket wake is a huge problem. But for double tapping when you want to wake it up is not as reliable. 50% for some..or 3rd tap not 2nd.
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id say it was about 90-95% reliable here. it might even be a more location where you tap issue (maybe?)
danarama said:
It's unreliable for everyone who uses it, except you maybe? There might be a timing knack to it
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I've seen several posts about dt2w, and there are issues and solutions, and indeed not always successful.
My dt2w actions were as follows.
I started using an app untill I flashed a custom-kernel. Franco's kernel.
In the kernel settings there is an option to enable dt2w. But enabling had no effect.
Therefore I decided to flash the mentioned power.shamu.so.
Now it works for more than a week.
When there are issues I will post it here.
Works on stock with LeanKernel. Has option for stock dt2w, haptic dt2w, sw2w or both haptic dt2w and sw2w at same time.
simms22 said:
it was more or less reliable for me, too reliable actually. when it got warm around here, i started carrying the phone in my back pocket instead of jacket pocket, and it kept waking in my back pocket. so i disabled double tap to wake, permanently.
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This is understandable because the screen is touched when you put the N6 in the back pocket. But you have an option to switch it off.
It is different with the magnet sensor.
I was using a belt case (vertical) with a magnetic closure. Every move activates the sensor. Screen is turned on/off frequently.
Solution: another belt case,
EDIT
. . . I hope that in an new Android it will be possible to switch this sensor permanently off.
Because my magnetic car mount is not usable.
Hi!
As i wrote, the screen just turning on without doing nothing.
I'm not touching...Only move it within my palms and the screen turnes on.
Anyone heard about that?
Your help would be appreciated.
Thank you!
It's called ambient display. Makes your screen turn on when the phone is moved after your screen turns off.
Basicly a replacement for the lack of a led light(talking non rooted non custom rom here)
OR.. it could also be an app, thats turning your screen on. there are many apps that do this, you should read your apps permissions.
Just turned off ambient display.
But...does it mean that now I wont get any notifications during phone at sleep?
Tnx!
Ambient display doesn't use much extra battery, it only illuminates the pixels its displaying and it keep the phone in a low power state.
It is your phone's stock visual notification system, so yes if you turn it off you won't get any visual notifications. If your phone is set to vibrate or make notification noises it will still do that. The phone does have an LED behind the speaker, so if you are rooted you can install something like lightflow to use your phone's LED for notifications instead/as well.
scryan said:
The phone does have an LED behind the speaker, so if you are rooted you can install something like lightflow to use your phone's LED for notifications instead/as well.
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If you mentioned 'lightflow':
Yes, I am rooted and followed the tut for lightflow - But I still doesnt get LED notifications.
Any reasson why?
Tnx!
shabydog said:
If you mentioned 'lightflow':
Yes, I am rooted and followed the tut for lightflow - But I still doesnt get LED notifications.
Any reasson why?
Tnx!
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I don't use light flow, but I have heard of many having issues using that app. what I use is s ROM that allows for colored notifications, then I set my colors within the ROMs options. BTW, pure nexus ROM.
simms22 said:
I don't use light flow, but I have heard of many having issues using that app. what I use is s ROM that allows for colored notifications, then I set my colors within the ROMs options. BTW, pure nexus ROM.
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oh snap, I just realized this is the same guy who was posting in the lightflow tutorial thread and was told how to do it multiple times.
He does not have "run all commands as root" check in the settings, and insist its not an option. He just needs to go through the settings and enable that like the popup window when you first launch light flow tells you.
You gotta look through your settings man. I don't know what else to tell you, I don't use that app anymore but I have. And unless you go through all the options in the settings menu... The app isn't going to be able to write to the kernels file system to turn the light on.
Maybe I'll just flash the pure nexus ROM.
I just dont get how to use this App.
Tnx!
I don't want to sound mean but if you Cant figure an app out I don't think you should be flashing ROMs
shabydog said:
Maybe I'll just flash the pure nexus ROM.
I just dont get how to use this App.
Tnx!
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You click settings.... Your looking for something to do with running commands as root.
Did you check under the "device settings and root" menu?
Does he even have the paid version of light flow?
holeindalip said:
Does he even have the paid version of light flow?
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He said in another thread that he bought it... but that doesn't matter. I don't and I used it via the options I stated to have LED notification for basic stuff.
I have a question regarding ambient display. I know how it works and all that stuff, however, how many time the phone wakes up with the black/white screen? Because mine gets a notification, it shows it to me then without doing nothing it shows the notification again and again, every minute I guess for a long time. Is this normal?
Yes thats normal. Just like a notification LED will stay on, Ambient Display will show every now and again until you acknowledge the notification in case you missed it. Again, it uses almost no battery to do this, I have used the phone with it on and with it off and never really notice a difference.
holeindalip said:
I don't want to sound mean but if you Cant figure an app out I don't think you should be flashing ROMs
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You will be surprisingly to hear that I do know well how to flash Roms...
scryan said:
You click settings.... Your looking for something to do with running commands as root.
Did you check under the "device settings and root" menu?
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Reinstalled and after i gave the SU permission - I chose the following:
'Root mode' is on.
'Run every command as root' is on.
Let's see if it would work now.
Thanks!
Hi,
Letting u know that for some reasson i dono - it still just dont work.
Super wierd.
So, I've tried all Pie ROMs. PixelExperience to Syberia and Havoc OS. None of them enter deep sleep. I've tried everything posted wherever I can find on the internet:
1. Change ROM
2. Change CPU governor.
3. Change Kernel.
4. Make changes to those values which govern the time it takes for the phone to enter deep sleep.
Nothing worked!
Any suggestions? I shifted to MIUI 10, which DOES enter deep sleep. But I don't want MIUI, not right now, at least...
Okay, got it. T'was a problem with the opengapps. I used to flash mini. I flashed nano and everything's good now...
Nope. Not working.
Come on, you guys...52 views and not one person answered?
Looks like you've tried almost all possible things. is all sensor detection is turned off? such as pocket detection hand wave? maybe try turning of those. also the ambient display too.
if it still doesn't works then i think we might have this issue on all pie roms such as we had screencast issue on all pie roms.
livingongh325 said:
Nope. Not working.
Come on, you guys...52 views and not one person answered?
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Maybe there is no solution... xD
I've experienced the same issue for a long time on the LOS 15.1 build where System usage is high despite long Phone Idle time and low usage.
The battery report actually does not make sense, but my battery life is certainly not what it should be compared to what some other users are getting.
It would be great if an expert can provide a solution on the deep sleep problem to extend battery life with these custom ROM's or a way to identify the culprit that keeps my phone awake.
metelhammer said:
Looks like you've tried almost all possible things. is all sensor detection is turned off? such as pocket detection hand wave? maybe try turning of those. also the ambient display too.
if it still doesn't works then i think we might have this issue on all pie roms such as we had screencast issue on all pie roms.
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Yes.
I turned them off on the outright.
Which ROM are you using by the way?
livingongh325 said:
Yes.
I turned them off on the outright.
Which ROM are you using by the way?
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I am using Havoc OS 2.6 20190609 build (which is latest one as i am writing). and i must say battery backup is great on stock kernel.
metelhammer said:
I am using Havoc OS 2.6 20190609 build (which is latest one as i am writing). and i must say battery backup is great on stock kernel.
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Have you installed viper4android?
livingongh325 said:
Have you installed viper4android?
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No, i haven't.
livingongh325 said:
So, I've tried all Pie ROMs. PixelExperience to Syberia and Havoc OS. None of them enter deep sleep. I've tried everything posted wherever I can find on the internet:
1. Change ROM
2. Change CPU governor.
3. Change Kernel.
4. Make changes to those values which govern the time it takes for the phone to enter deep sleep.
Nothing worked!
Any suggestions? I shifted to MIUI 10, which DOES enter deep sleep. But I don't want MIUI, not right now, at least...
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Check if "pocket mode" is on, or "double tap to wake" or things like that, some months ago I lost one week trying to figure out, but was just the "pocket mode".
livingongh325 said:
So, I've tried all Pie ROMs. PixelExperience to Syberia and Havoc OS. None of them enter deep sleep. I've tried everything posted wherever I can find on the internet:
1. Change ROM
2. Change CPU governor.
3. Change Kernel.
4. Make changes to those values which govern the time it takes for the phone to enter deep sleep.
Nothing worked!
Any suggestions? I shifted to MIUI 10, which DOES enter deep sleep. But I don't want MIUI, not right now, at least...
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Maybe you can use these apps to track what application(s) make your phone awakes: BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector or Simple System Monitor.
I ever used TWRP 3.2.1 + Pixel Experience 8.1 (Oreo), and my phone never entered deep sleep state. I moved to MIUI 9.2.4 and the state was back to normal.
Now I use OrangeFox 9 recovery + Pixel Experience 9 (Pie) and the phone can sleep like a baby. It's been 2 weeks and still acts normally. Love it!
CalveinX said:
Check if "pocket mode" is on, or "double tap to wake" or things like that, some months ago I lost one week trying to figure out, but was just the "pocket mode".
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Where do you find the "pocket mode" setting ?
Xiaomi Warrior said:
Where do you find the "pocket mode" setting ?
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I am using Havoc and had the same problems until I decativated everything that reads motion or proximity sensors. Now I can go 4 days without charge.
The most options are in the havoc menue in "Inactivity screen -> Ambient Options" (I am not completly sure about the english labels, as I am using an other language.) "Pocket mode" is the last one in the list, but I have deactivated everything there.
theBoatman said:
I am using Havoc and had the same problems until I decativated everything that reads motion or proximity sensors. Now I can go 4 days without charge.
The most options are in the havoc menue in "Inactivity screen -> Ambient Options" (I am not completly sure about the english labels, as I am using an other language.) "Pocket mode" is the last one in the list, but I have deactivated everything there.
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Pocket Mode for LOS15.1 it is under Settings -> Display -> Advanced -> Ambient Display or Settings -> Battery -> Ambient Display
I have turned all of this unnecessary trash off.
My phone still drains about 8-10% during night while in airplane mode which I do not think is normal.
I have even gone as far as disabling "Keep Awake" for installed apps under Privacy Guard.
Hello, I would like to know if like me you have the always display which turns off after a few minutes? I find that very frustrating. Is there a parameter or other to have it continuously? Thank you
Yes
boober78 said:
Yes
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Thank you, it's weird I don't have the last line on your photo? What firmware do you have? everything else is the same is the always display mode is no longer displayed after a few minutes
Are you sure your light sensor is telling the phone it's too dark? Try by turning that off. I'm on EU, so may be different to yours as I'm not sure what ROM you're using. By the way, I don't have to turn that setting off and it works fine.
Sathelp said:
Are you sure your light sensor is telling the phone it's too dark? Try by turning that off. I'm on EU, so may be different to yours as I'm not sure what ROM you're using. By the way, I don't have to turn that setting off and it works fine.
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I am on a firmware 12.0.6.0 eea, I see that I do not have the same line as you !!? Weird isn't it?
ikkifcporto said:
Thank you, it's weird I don't have the last line on your photo? What firmware do you have? everything else is the same is the always display mode is no longer displayed after a few minutes
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This is my ROM version
Have turned off AOD as I don't need it nor want it and the white fingerprint circle pops up every ten seconds or so even though I've said I don't want AOD.
Has anyone else got this crap behaviour??
dladz said:
Have turned off AOD as I don't need it nor want it and the white fingerprint circle pops up every ten seconds or so even though I've said I don't want AOD.
Has anyone else got this crap behaviour??
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LoL! Try Settings-Personalizations-Fingerprint animation-None
galaxys said:
LoL! Try Settings-Personalizations-Fingerprint animation-None
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Haha it is
Haha, well then select settings in there, and Fingerprint Off
Lol honestly mate, AOD is off and fingerprint animation is also off. Try it yourself, I think it's a bug.
I've just turned on AOD, going to leave that bitmoji thing on. Why not.
I've tried everything to get rid of the FP, it just won't go.
Yeh sounds like a , I don't use Fingerprint and I leave aod on...
Cheers
galaxys said:
Yeh sounds like a , I don't use Fingerprint and I leave aod on...
Cheers
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I'm sure if you tried it would do the same thing. Probably one of the many issues.
It's definitely a beta this firmware
dladz said:
I'm sure if you tried it would do the same thing. Probably one of the many issues.
It's definitely a beta this firmware
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Just tried on my Global usa model and I'm not seeing it. Also, I've never added a fingerprint to the device....
galaxys said:
Just tried on my Global usa model and I'm not seeing it. Also, I've never added a fingerprint to the device....
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Lol no idea then mate.
Not the end of the world
dladz said:
Have turned off AOD as I don't need it nor want it and the white fingerprint circle pops up every ten seconds or so even though I've said I don't want AOD.
Has anyone else got this crap behaviour??
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I even went so far as to disable the system AOD apk via an apk disabler tool & that did not work.
IDK if you ever found the actual toggle to turn it off......I finally found it by selecting the search result in Settings.
I typed in Always & stopped there,finding "Always-On Display".
The toggle is at the very top of the page (FWIW,I missed this earlier when in the settings,it was easy for me to overlook the toggle in dark mode).
If you've already tried this & it's still coming on,here's what I'm trying for the next day or so:
Turn Always-On Display back on & set a scheduled time for one minute.
For example,I've got it turning on at 4:00 A.M. & turning off at 4:01 A.M.
ATM,option 2,the scheduled on/off time,seems to be working.
EDIT;after a few minutes,AOD is coming back on.
This is annoying....... Not looking good as a keeper,not liking OxyColor OS at all,what a mess compared to the OP7T Pro.
Not just this,but,the settings layout (for individual app settings is a trainwreck & power/performance options not sticking,keeps reverting back to out-of-box settings.
Well I think I found a permanent fix for this...it's actually a bug (in my case anyway)
I was forced to wipe my phone, which was a huge pain due to a problem with a mod I'd installed..
Anyway on boot I set everything back up then realised it's got AOD on by default and I went a turned it off.
Low and behold it stayed off..no need to do anything.
So what I think has happened is the update that came recently (11_A.12) that could have caused issues, always good to wipe after an update.
I honestly don't know if this will fix things for you, but it did for me.
Couple that with the fact that I'm now getting unbelievable battery life...I think it's maybe a good idea to at least try, you may not fix your AOD but you may get better battery. As I did, I think you'll probably get both.
Here's a bunch of pics from the last 24 hours, midnight on Thursday evening /start of Friday up till now.
Absolutely amazing.
dladz said:
Well I think I found a permanent fix for this...it's actually a bug (in my case anyway)
I was forced to wipe my phone, which was a huge pain due to a problem with a mod I'd installed..
Anyway on boot I set everything back up then realised it's got AOD on by default and I went a turned it off.
Low and behold it stayed off..no need to do anything.
So what I think has happened is the update that came recently (11_A.12) that could have caused issues, always good to wipe after an update.
I honestly don't know if this will fix things for you, but it did for me.
Couple that with the fact that I'm now getting unbelievable battery life...I think it's maybe a good idea to at least try, you may not fix your AOD but you may get better battery. As I did, I think you'll probably get both.
Here's a bunch of pics from the last 24 hours, midnight on Thursday evening /start of Friday up till now.
Absolutely amazing.
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Are you using an Unlocked model, or a carrier (T-Mobile US) model (& are you rooted or unrooted)?
THX.
Turn this off
KOLIOSIS said:
Are you using an Unlocked model, or a carrier (T-Mobile US) model (& are you rooted or unrooted)?
THX.
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EU unlocked. Ne2213
Bliszcur said:
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Turn this off
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It was mate, they all were, it was a bug.
dladz said:
Well I think I found a permanent fix for this...it's actually a bug (in my case anyway)
I was forced to wipe my phone, which was a huge pain due to a problem with a mod I'd installed..
Anyway on boot I set everything back up then realised it's got AOD on by default and I went a turned it off.
Low and behold it stayed off..no need to do anything.
So what I think has happened is the update that came recently (11_A.12) that could have caused issues, always good to wipe after an update.
I honestly don't know if this will fix things for you, but it did for me.
Couple that with the fact that I'm now getting unbelievable battery life...I think it's maybe a good idea to at least try, you may not fix your AOD but you may get better battery. As I did, I think you'll probably get both.
Here's a bunch of pics from the last 24 hours, midnight on Thursday evening /start of Friday up till now.
Absolutely amazing.
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I just got the 1st system update for the T-Mobile US version.
The AOD option to turn it off is now working.
Here's what is/was strange, pre-update:
The only way I could see/access the Always-On Display settings/toggle was to have the stock OnePlus Launcher as the default home app.
Even then, AOD stayed on, whether toggled on or off.
I was able to figure this out from prior experience with the original Oppo Find X & VIVO NEX.
Very strange that certain (seemingly unrelated) settings would be hidden due to choice of home launcher,but,apparently,BBK doesn't see this as an issue/bug(feature, LOL) that needs to be addressed, guessing this "feature" is persistent on the home market China models/firmware.
Glad it was cleaned up for the T-Mobile US update.
On a somewhat related note, pre-update, I could not find a way to choose "No Lock Screen". I looked in the usual place to find such & it was not available, AFAIK.
Now, post-update, that setting is found in "Developer Options". (Why?????? LOL)
On an unrelated note, post-update, another bug has apparently been taken care of for the T-Mobile US version :
T-Mobile bloatware apps now stay disabled, if chosen to do so. Pre-update, they would re-appear after a reboot.
With these bug fixes, my outlook on keeping this phone has definitely changed for the positive. I still have about 10 days remaining before T-Mobile's buyer's remorse return window closes.