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[Q] All ROMs cause constant reboots - except CM7.x

So the title says it all really... Only CM7.X series actually works correctly on my device. All other ROMs that I have tried either cause the phone to reboot itself after an undetermined time, or lock up the device and I have to pull the battery.
Sense ROMs are the worst for reliability I've found. They will reboot randomly with seemingly no reason. I've been playing with IceColdSandwich 8.0+8.1 recently and can reproduce a reboot consistently by opening maps and scrolling it.
I would be quite happy to stick with CM if the INC-S was getting CM9/10 in the future, but this doesn't seem to be happening.
So how can I stop the rebooting/freezing in all these other ROMs?

B3rz3rk3r said:
So the title says it all really... Only CM7.X series actually works correctly on my device. All other ROMs that I have tried either cause the phone to reboot itself after an undetermined time, or lock up the device and I have to pull the battery.
Sense ROMs are the worst for reliability I've found. They will reboot randomly with seemingly no reason. I've been playing with IceColdSandwich 8.0+8.1 recently and can reproduce a reboot consistently by opening maps and scrolling it.
I would be quite happy to stick with CM if the INC-S was getting CM9/10 in the future, but this doesn't seem to be happening.
So how can I stop the rebooting/freezing in all these other ROMs?
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try wiping your partitions when flashing rom. there might be a corrupted system file or something

naathaanb96 said:
try wiping your partitions when flashing rom. there might be a corrupted system file or something
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I've always fully wiped /data /cache and the dalvik cache when flashing new ROMs since I read that it's safest to do that from a ROM reliability standpoint.

B3rz3rk3r said:
I've always fully wiped /data /cache and the dalvik cache when flashing new ROMs since I read that it's safest to do that from a ROM reliability standpoint.
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try format everything else except sd card in the list

I've formatted all partitions except SDcard and am still able to reproduce the reboot by scrolling in google maps for 10-15 seconds.
I should mention that the reboots are not limited to this, it will also reboot during phone calls or other general app usage, but no where near as frequently, and it is not reproducible like the GMaps reboot.

B3rz3rk3r said:
I've formatted all partitions except SDcard and am still able to reproduce the reboot by scrolling in google maps for 10-15 seconds.
I should mention that the reboots are not limited to this, it will also reboot during phone calls or other general app usage, but no where near as frequently, and it is not reproducible like the GMaps reboot.
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Try clearing maps data. Are you on the new just released maps? Because the new Google earth completely froze my phone once I found my house:3
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naathaanb96 said:
Try clearing maps data. Are you on the new just released maps? Because the new Google earth completely froze my phone once I found my house:3
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I have cleared maps cache and downloaded a map for offline use as well, same problem is present. I have the latest Gmaps but the problem was reproducible well before this as well.
I don't think maps is the problem since it happens with old versions of maps too; but rather causes the phone to use something else, which causes the reboot.
Is there a way to see the kernel logs after a crash like on desktop linux?

B3rz3rk3r said:
I have cleared maps cache and downloaded a map for offline use as well, same problem is present. I have the latest Gmaps but the problem was reproducible well before this as well.
I don't think maps is the problem since it happens with old versions of maps too; but rather causes the phone to use something else, which causes the reboot.
Is there a way to see the kernel logs after a crash like on desktop linux?
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Do a search mate. There's a way to get a logcat of a crash just not exactly sure how to do it
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If full wipe doesn't work. then try to change your SD card. Without backup your data. Just to see if reboot occur again.
This suggestion maybe sound stupid, at least, you can give a try

Backup your SD-Card on your computer and wipe/format it afterwards (FAT32). Maybe that helps...

Radio
B3rz3rk3r said:
So the title says it all really... Only CM7.X series actually works correctly on my device. All other ROMs that I have tried either cause the phone to reboot itself after an undetermined time, or lock up the device and I have to pull the battery.
Sense ROMs are the worst for reliability I've found. They will reboot randomly with seemingly no reason. I've been playing with IceColdSandwich 8.0+8.1 recently and can reproduce a reboot consistently by opening maps and scrolling it.
I would be quite happy to stick with CM if the INC-S was getting CM9/10 in the future, but this doesn't seem to be happening.
So how can I stop the rebooting/freezing in all these other ROMs?
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My guess is that the issue is Radio related. What's your version?

amitizle said:
My guess is that the issue is Radio related. What's your version?
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I have wiped all partitions (save for the SDCard) and reinstalled IceColdSandwich 8.1.1 and have currently gone over 24hrs without a reboot, even trying to force one using the GMaps scroll.
Radio is: 20.2810.30.085AU_3805.06.0316_M
I would link to a pic showing all the info but it seems I'm not allowed.
If you copy the text below and remove the brackets around the dot com then you can see it:
i.imgur{.}com/nHxgE.png

Hi, sorry for breaking in, but seems like I have a somehow similar problem with my Incredible s:
The phone starts up fine, but will run only for 1-5 minutes before spontaneously rebooting when on battery power.. This never happens when connected to PC or charger, and phone seems to stay alive "forever" in Bootloader (Revolutionary-screen), but leaving that even for Recovery does the "trick", and again it will reboot after a short while. :crying:
Doesn't matter if SD and Simm are inserted or not!
Have tried all I can think of:
Fix permissions, different roms (GingerBread (stock/ some other) and Ice Cream Sandwich (IceColdSandwich)), of course cleared and formatted all partitions, tried different Recovery's (currently Touch Recovery) and radios (S-OFF'ed to do this after problem started), even have heat-gunned soldering for battery-connectors (yes cleaned connections as well), and heated a little where charger and battery seems to "relate", and have also tried another battery with similar 4-point connection (works, but same same) so what else to do??
The problem started two days after replacing a smashed digitizer with new one (from eBay), and after a two hour car-trip with GPS and Navigate on, but no charger, in a hot front-window; the phone just exactly reached to run flat out of power, and when I recharged it shortly after arrival, the "fun" began..
It clearly looks like a battery problem, but the battery seems in perfect condition. Could it be the unoriginal (cheap) digitizer? Mind you the phone worked flawlessly for two days with that ting..(?) Or should I invest in a new battery even so (please see pic.)?
Again sorry for intruding the string, but have searched a lot without finding anything more similar, and didn't want to open a new string for this.. Maybe this one will come to live again, with a new post... :fingers-crossed:
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Greetings from Denmark, and please HELP!:cyclops:

seek4 said:
Hi, sorry for breaking in, but seems like I have a somehow similar problem with my Incredible s:
The phone starts up fine, but will run only for 1-5 minutes before spontaneously rebooting when on battery power.. This never happens when connected to PC or charger, and phone seems to stay alive "forever" in Bootloader (Revolutionary-screen), but leaving that even for Recovery does the "trick", and again it will reboot after a short while. :crying:
Doesn't matter if SD and Simm are inserted or not!
Have tried all I can think of:
Fix permissions, different roms (GingerBread (stock/ some other) and Ice Cream Sandwich (IceColdSandwich)), of course cleared and formatted all partitions, tried different Recovery's (currently Touch Recovery) and radios (S-OFF'ed to do this after problem started), even have heat-gunned soldering for battery-connectors (yes cleaned connections as well), and heated a little where charger and battery seems to "relate", and have also tried another battery with similar 4-point connection (works, but same same) so what else to do??
The problem started two days after replacing a smashed digitizer with new one (from eBay), and after a two hour car-trip with GPS and Navigate on, but no charger, in a hot front-window; the phone just exactly reached to run flat out of power, and when I recharged it shortly after arrival, the "fun" began..
It clearly looks like a battery problem, but the battery seems in perfect condition. Could it be the unoriginal (cheap) digitizer? Mind you the phone worked flawlessly for two days with that ting..(?) Or should I invest in a new battery even so (please see pic.)?
Again sorry for intruding the string, but have searched a lot without finding anything more similar, and didn't want to open a new string for this.. Maybe this one will come to live again, with a new post... :fingers-crossed:
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Greetings from Denmark, and please HELP!:cyclops:
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Your problem sounds like its hardware based. I was unable to prevent the phone from rebooting and so have gone back to CyanogenMod 7.2 where the frequent reboots do not occur.

B3rz3rk3r said:
Your problem sounds like its hardware based. I was unable to prevent the phone from rebooting and so have gone back to CyanogenMod 7.2 where the frequent reboots do not occur.
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Thanks for your quick reply mate!
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553654 one? I'm back to my old S-E X10i, so anything is worth trying.. Which BB and kernel do you use for that iso?

B3rz3rk3r said:
Your problem sounds like its hardware based. I was unable to prevent the phone from rebooting and so have gone back to CyanogenMod 7.2 where the frequent reboots do not occur.
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Well thanks again for a plausible suggestion, but just now tried my guess (from post here above), and sadly still no go! Didn't even let me finish Setup (after installing Gaps) before rebooting itself ..
Already had a thought about HW power management myself, but kinda fought it off, as the idea didn't become me, however that probably is the thing..
Who knows a little something about the s710e PCB, to guide me messing the right thing(s)??

seek4 said:
Well thanks again for a plausible suggestion, but just now tried my guess (from post here above), and sadly still no go! Didn't even let me finish Setup (after installing Gaps) before rebooting itself ..
Already had a thought about HW power management myself, but kinda fought it off, as the idea didn't become me, however that probably is the thing..
Who knows a little something about the s710e PCB, to guide me messing the right thing(s)??
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There is a stable release of CM 7.2 out now on the official site. I would provide you a link but I'm not allowed to yet.
I would suggest checking the MD5 sum and full wipe before installing it. If you are still having troubles then I would look at the hardware as the problem.

B3rz3rk3r said:
There is a stable release of CM 7.2 out now on the official site. I would provide you a link but I'm not allowed to yet.
I would suggest checking the MD5 sum and full wipe before installing it. If you are still having troubles then I would look at the hardware as the problem.
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Once again tanks! Found it and tried it (I always do full wipe between roms), unfortunately still same result.. But what MD5 sum am I supposed to check?? (Where, how?)

seek4 said:
Once again tanks! Found it and tried it (I always do full wipe between roms), unfortunately still same result.. But what MD5 sum am I supposed to check?? (Where, how?)
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Mate, your problem is obviously hardware-related. You should go to htc service center if you want your device to run again.

Agreed.
Now and again you can get a bad download, which is why you check the MD5 sum against the orginal, but if this is happening with every ROM you use, plus the fact that you have already replaced parts on your phone with non-original hardware, leads me to the conclusion that you have a hardware defect.

Weird crash issue....

Okay, since I've got the phone, it's been working without a problem.
Until yesterday...........
First off, I tried making a picture of a 'small' spider I saw in my living room:
I wanted to try night scene mode, but for some reason I couldn't change the scenes, the 3 dots to select a specific scene was grayed out for some reason.
First I thought that I might have disabled an ap or something that prevented me from using manual mode, so I enabled some things that I previously disabled . it didn't work.
So the next thing i did was clear the data from the camera ap and extensions. That didn't work either. (After each step I restarted my phone, just to make sure that the changes were applied)
I tried using background de-focus, just to see what it would do, after making a picture though the camera kept showing the saving animation and it never stopped, pictures I made after that weren't saved at all...
A few minutes later I could suddenly access manual mode and all the scenes again, taking (or saving) pictures was still laggy/not working tho.
I ignored the issue....
I also use the phone as my alarm, to wake up early from work....
But guess WHAT! This morning my alarm didn't went off and I overslept and my battery suddenly had 50% remaining, when I went to bed 6h earlier, it was on 93%. My clock ap crashed and that's the reason why my alarm didn't went off.
I rebooted the phone and tried accessing my alarms again, but I couldn't get to my alarms, since my clock ap kept crashing....
I had no time to look at the issue, since I barely had time to prepare for work, normally I drove to work with some music from my phone, but even Walkman refused to play anything........
I decided to do a factory reset, since I wouldn't lose a lot of stuff, but used ultra stamina mode to preserve some of the battery while I was at work, since my battery was still depleting really fast! When I switched back from Ultra Stamina to normal mode, the issue seemed to be fixed, so i did no factory reset in the end.
This issue is really weird, but the weirder thing is that THE SAME EXACT THING! Happened on my Xperia Z after a year or something (Only on a stock Rom though)
Is there anyone that even read my entire story (that i just typed) And is there anyone that had the same issue as me? Because it's really annoying me!!
Here are some screenshots:
Some help would be very appreciated!
(CPU Z Showed Processor 3 almost on a constant 2.2GHz)

3 or 4 days ago I had similar issue with my z3c, same with my sg2 year ago. with sg2 problem was with broken audio file (.mp3) on my card that makes device to constantly scan my sd card and not to sleep so that time I checked all my music with audiotester app, found some broken ones and repair them with MP3diags. Issue was solved and never happened again. hope that will help

damned91 said:
3 or 4 days ago I had similar issue with my z3c, same with my sg2 year ago. with sg2 problem was with broken audio file (.mp3) on my card that makes device to constantly scan my sd card and not to sleep so that time I checked all my music with audiotester app, found some broken ones and repair them with MP3diags. Issue was solved and never happened again. hope that will help
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Could you please link to the two aps/programs?
It's worth a try. I wonder how long it would take with me 10k songs.

Dsteppa said:
Could you please link to the two aps/programs?
It's worth a try. I wonder how long it would take with me 10k songs.
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Assuming you have the songs on a microSD, wouldn't it be easier to remove just that and give it a try?

Dsteppa said:
Could you please link to the two aps/programs?
It's worth a try. I wonder how long it would take with me 10k songs.
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Later, when i could reach my PC

sxtester said:
Assuming you have the songs on a microSD, wouldn't it be easier to remove just that and give it a try?
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What do you mean? It's not a daily problem, so I don't know how I could test that. After yesterday the problem didn't came back. On my Xperia Z I changed rom and the problem was gone.
Sent from my D5803

sxtester said:
Assuming you have the songs on a microSD, wouldn't it be easier to remove just that and give it a try?
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So I rebooted the phone and suddenly it started acting up again. I did what you advised and it did seem to get rid of the problem. :good:
Now I need to wait for @damned91 to link the programs and see if it will help.

MP3 diags
Audiotester is standalone exe file program, just open it and drag&drop music folders there. won`t take much time
First of all use Audiotester because it works MUCH faster, then MP3 diags to repair.

Dsteppa said:
Could you please link to the two aps/programs?
It's worth a try. I wonder how long it would take with me 10k songs.
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I`m just curious, how much broken files you have found?

damned91 said:
I`m just curious, how much broken files you have found?
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I'm down to about 100 broken files now, all of them with sync problems, try to re-download those.
Many of these files I've had since 2006 if not earlier.

Dsteppa said:
I'm down to about 100 broken files now, all of them with sync problems, try to re-download those.
Many of these files I've had since 2006 if not earlier.
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OMG

damned91 said:
OMG
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Hahaha you could say that again! It wasn't that bad tho. I had to re-download about 100-150 files, the rest I was able to fix with MP3 diags.
Now I hope that the problem will be solved. :good::good:

E6533 Dual Lagging and restarting itself & wifi lag

In the past couple of days for no reason my phone when ringing to receive a call will freeze and restart itself, hence, missing the call, I can see the caller ID but no luck answering, upon restarted the call will not be on the call log. It doesn't matter if phone is idle or using an app, any app. I've lost a couple of important calls today. Happens on both lines.
Has anybody had this happened? I'm thinking of a factory restore, but will accept any suggestions before doing so.
Also, when leaving a wi-fi connection, ie: driving away from home, it takes about 3 or 4 minutes lagging, and then it will function normally, what I have to do now is shut wifi off prior to leaving the house or the office, untill I get to a new spot, but sometimes I forget to turn it back on and my plan is running, any ideas?
Both issues I don´t think are related.
I'm on Android 5.02, build 28.0.A.8.251, haven´t done any rooting, just like it came out of the box.
Thank you in advance.

maybe you can try repair your phone through PC Companion,
mine got OTA update right after i got it out of the box, if yours was the same, maybe that's the cause.

ra3ul said:
In the past couple of days for no reason my phone when ringing to receive a call will freeze and restart itself, hence, missing the call, I can see the caller ID but no luck answering, upon restarted the call will not be on the call log. It doesn't matter if phone is idle or using an app, any app. I've lost a couple of important calls today. Happens on both lines.
Has anybody had this happened? I'm thinking of a factory restore, but will accept any suggestions before doing so.
Also, when leaving a wi-fi connection, ie: driving away from home, it takes about 3 or 4 minutes lagging, and then it will function normally, what I have to do now is shut wifi off prior to leaving the house or the office, untill I get to a new spot, but sometimes I forget to turn it back on and my plan is running, any ideas?
Both issues I don´t think are related.
I'm on Android 5.02, build 28.0.A.8.251, haven´t done any rooting, just like it came out of the box.
Thank you in advance.
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Do you have GPS turned on? What apps are you using? I think this might be an app related issue..... I also hate losing data and customizations I've done and opt always to stay away from reseting etc....
Check Apps that use GPS and recent apps you've installed
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ra3ul said:
In the past couple of days for no reason my phone when ringing to receive a call will freeze and restart itself, hence, missing the call, I can see the caller ID but no luck answering, upon restarted the call will not be on the call log. It doesn't matter if phone is idle or using an app, any app. I've lost a couple of important calls today. Happens on both lines.
Has anybody had this happened? I'm thinking of a factory restore, but will accept any suggestions before doing so.
Also, when leaving a wi-fi connection, ie: driving away from home, it takes about 3 or 4 minutes lagging, and then it will function normally, what I have to do now is shut wifi off prior to leaving the house or the office, untill I get to a new spot, but sometimes I forget to turn it back on and my plan is running, any ideas?
Both issues I don´t think are related.
I'm on Android 5.02, build 28.0.A.8.251, haven´t done any rooting, just like it came out of the box.
Thank you in advance.
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do factory reset But do it by Repairing Firmware by PC Companion
it will install latest fresh firmware
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Geeks Empire said:
do factory reset But do it by Repairing Firmware by PC Companion
it will install latest fresh firmware
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Thank you, tried this last one, only have used it half a day, no issues so far, thanks.

After 5 days I can say wow!!
Lagging gone, battery up to 15 hours without any change in habits, heat can't barely notice anymore.
Thanks for the tips..

You did factory reset or restore from pc? Also after that did you restore data with a program or pc companion or your started over?
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I did a Pc Companion full restore, followed guidelines step by step andI just started over.
Except for contacts, those I emailed myself and loaded them from there.
I guess it was worth it
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I still have 15%, since 6:45 this morning, it's 10:15 I guess I could go a bit after midnight.
A lot of whatsapp (at least every 10 minutes) Mail, Facebook, Twitter, a couple of videos, some games.
This is what Xperia is supposed to be I guess
Cheers!!
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android pie issues

I got a note 9 originally sprint. Flashed tmobile u1 pie. Everything works fine except for two things. One of them is no edge screen notifications which isnt a big deal dont really need it. But the other is google maps. It keep loosing gps location when i put phone to sleep(app running in background). Yes location is on, wiped cache on app, downloaded newest version of maps even tried older version but still not working. Went to settings to make sure location permision is on and still not working. If anybody can fix this i would appreciate it. The last thing i can think of doing is factory reset. Wanna avoid that for now unless i dont find a workaround.

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I got a note 9 originally sprint. Flashed tmobile u1 pie. Everything works fine except for two things. One of them is no edge screen notifications which isnt a big deal dont really need it. But the other is google maps. It keep loosing gps location when i put phone to sleep(app running in background). Yes location is on, wiped cache on app, downloaded newest version of maps even tried older version but still not working. Went to settings to make sure location permision is on and still not working. If anybody can fix this i would appreciate it. The last thing i can think of doing is factory reset. Wanna avoid that for now unless i dont find a workaround.
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Make sure the first option is the same as attached. Mine wasn't, and GPS would lose connection if I turned the screen off.
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Make sure the first option is the same as attached. Mine wasn't, and GPS would lose connection if I turned the screen off.
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Yeah same as yours. Still loosing signal. Ill post a screen shot later on show u exactly how it looks.

timex300 said:
Yeah same as yours. Still loosing signal. Ill post a screen shot later on show u exactly how it looks.
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factory wipe!

bober10113 said:
factory wipe!
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Or roll back to the version I'm using before the nuclear option.
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Limeybastard said:
Or roll back to the version I'm using before the nuclear option.
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If i dont figure it out by this weekend ima factory wipe. I heard it might be the case. Might try that see if that is the issue i doubt it though.

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Or roll back to the version I'm using before the nuclear option.
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Ended up doing a factory reset was a pain having to get my stuff just the way i wanted but now maps works fine. Thanks.

thers an unwritten rule in IT that should be applied to phones as well.if you ask me its just common sense too;
you dont update to major OS revisions. You should always start fresh.
Down the line, much less headaches and wasted time figuring out what happened when weird crap happens.

bober10113 said:
thers an unwritten rule in IT that should be applied to phones as well.if you ask me its just common sense too;
you dont update to major OS revisions. You should always start fresh.
Down the line, much less headaches and wasted time figuring out what happened when weird crap happens.
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Well when i flashed via patched odin the tmo u1 pie firmware it did do a factory reset started clean/fresh idk but it works now.

timex300 said:
Well when i flashed via patched odin the tmo u1 pie firmware it did do a factory reset started clean/fresh idk but it works now.
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not sure if data is actually fully wiped. one thing for sure, doing it manually wiping cache and data in recovery is a sure bet.
anyways glad you got it working

If anyone else runs into this issue phone could be going into idle/sleep mode. Always turn off battery optimization setting if you do not want app put to sleep after a period of screen being turned off. Phone is set to "learn" or GUESS when apps are not needed to be kept awake alive. Settings look like this...
Certain settings give your phone the urge to guess what you need & want or don't need or want running at any given time based on your use, Long story not as smart as it sounds. It just makes or has a hunch based upon recording things like location, speed of100% predicta travel, sleeping, and any other stats it feels like monitoring. No human phone usage is predictable and same routine to the millisecond, People vary, this is where it becomes a hastle so I choose all the apps I don't need to run constantly or receive updates/notis from & I put them under always sleeping section. It was an interesting selling point but really needs work, or just bigger batteries & better power saving features that do not "guess" or make "assumptions" about our usage habits.

Updated to Pie but not sure if I like it. Can I go back to Oreo?

Hi all,
I recently just updated to Pie 52.0.A.3.27 a couple of days ago and I'm not really digging it. I have a XZ2 Compact H8314 NZ.
I prefer the Oreo UI over Pie - the nav bar is white most of the time, doesn't hide at specific (splash) screens like it does in Oreo, volume control is now on the side and I feel like it's harder to slide as the space is smaller...
Sometimes my screen rotates by itself even though I have auto-rotate off all the time, and it won't rotate back unless I turn auto-rotate on and off again to reset it.
The clock is on the other side and I can't break my 5+ yr habit of looking at it on the right instinctively!
Also the top tray slide down notif bar has the icons' circle borders spilling outside the side frame line which bothers me so so much. The icons tray was black and now it decided to turn white today and I am really not liking it. (I attached a screenie to better help explain what I mean)
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Also when I'm playing mobage, previously on Oreo I can set it up on autogrind and it runs through the whole thing, but sometimes in Pie it decides by itself to screen off and my mobage stops running as a result. :/
It feels really buggy to me. I had no issues in Oreo before...
So I have a few questions -
I have an update available to 52.0.A.3.126, does it fix some of these issues?
If it doesn't and I end up continuing hating Pie, can I go back to Oreo?
I assume a factory reset will always put me back at Oreo?

harpnote said:
Hi all,
I recently just updated to Pie 52.0.A.3.27 a couple of days ago and I'm not really digging it. I have a XZ2 Compact H8314 NZ.
I prefer the Oreo UI over Pie - the nav bar is white most of the time, doesn't hide at specific (splash) screens like it does in Oreo, volume control is now on the side and I feel like it's harder to slide as the space is smaller...
Sometimes my screen rotates by itself even though I have auto-rotate off all the time, and it won't rotate back unless I turn auto-rotate on and off again to reset it.
The clock is on the other side and I can't break my 5+ yr habit of looking at it on the right instinctively!
Also the top tray slide down notif bar has the icons' circle borders spilling outside the side frame line of the which bother me so so much. And now the icons tray was black and it decided to turn white today and I am really not liking it. (I attached a screenie to better help explain what I mean)
Also when I'm playing mobage, previously on Oreo I can set it up on autogrind and it runs through the whole thing, but sometimes in Pie it decides by itself to screen off and my mobage stops running as a result. :/
It feels really buggy to me. I had no issues in Oreo before...
So I have a few questions -
I have an update available to 52.0.A.3.126, does it fix some of these issues?
If it doesn't and I end up continuing hating Pie, can I go back to Oreo?
I assume a factory reset will always put me back at Oreo?
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Try Q

MartinX3 said:
Try Q
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If you mean try a quote? I think it worked! Thanks! Haven't done BBcode in years!

harpnote said:
If you mean try a quote? I think it worked! Thanks! Haven't done BBcode in years!
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Try Android Q. It's great.

emcom said:
Try Android Q. It's great.
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Is Android Q even available for the XZ2 Compact? Will it still have the same UI issues as Pie....

harpnote said:
Is Android Q even available for the XZ2 Compact? Will it still have the same UI issues as Pie....
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Of course it's available. But remember to do the full factory resert after the upgrade (or simply run the software repair option from Sony software on the PC)
Most of the problems comes from the fact that people do not perform factory resets after major OS upgrades.

emcom said:
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emcom said:
Of course it's available. But remember to do the full factory resert after the upgrade (or simply run the software repair option from Sony software on the PC)
Most of the problems comes from the fact that people do not perform factory resets after major OS upgrades.
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If going by what you say, even if I factory reset my phone now it won't be back to Oreo?

harpnote said:
If going by what you say, even if I factory reset my phone now it won't be back to Oreo?
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No, no chance. You'd have to reflash it with older software.

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emcom said:
No, no chance. You'd have to reflash it with older software.
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That's really sad to hear... I assumed that I could always go back via factory reset like other phones.
I assume I'll need a file of the older software, would you be able to point me in the right direction for a tutorial of sorts and hopefully a resource to get a copy of Oreo? I see Xperifim mentioned but it only seems to have the latest software.
EDIT: I found the Sony archives which has these two softwares but they were not the ones I had on my phone prior to the Pie update, but are the closest in number. Would it still be safe to flash using these?
https://developer.sony.com/file/download/open-source-archive-for-51-1-a-11-51/
https://developer.sony.com/file/download/open-source-archive-for-51-1-a-4-265/
Would I lose my region customisation? How important is this? I see region customisation mentioned in some threads.
I'll keep searching for how to flash/methods of loading older softwares.

harpnote said:
That's really sad to hear... I assumed that I could always go back via factory reset like other phones.
I assume I'll need a file of the older software, would you be able to point me in the right direction for a tutorial of sorts and hopefully a resource to get a copy of Oreo? I see Xperifim mentioned but it only seems to have the latest software.
EDIT: I found the Sony archives which has these two softwares but they were not the ones I had on my phone prior to the Pie update, but are the closest in number. Would it still be safe to flash using these?
https://developer.sony.com/file/download/open-source-archive-for-51-1-a-11-51/
https://developer.sony.com/file/download/open-source-archive-for-51-1-a-4-265/
Would I lose my region customisation? How important is this? I see region customisation mentioned in some threads.
I'll keep searching for how to flash/methods of loading older softwares.
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Ideally, you would flash the software from your operator, if available.
If not, then go for the one from your region of the world.
Some time ago I've downgraded my Xperia XA2, and it went smoothly.
If you use the software for EXACTLY THE SAME phone model then flashing is perfectly safe.
(actually, it's also safe if you use even some parts of software from very similar model - few days ago I just added the VoLTE and WiFi calling functionalities to my newly purchased XZ2 Premium Dual Sim using two files from regular XZ2 Dual Sim. So probably in my country I have one and only one Xperia XZ2 Premium working with VoLTE and WiFi calling in my operator's network )
Oh, and factory reset is NEVER downgrading the phone. It's only resetting phone settings to initial values and deleting all the data.

emcom said:
Ideally, you would flash the software from your operator, if available.
If not, then go for the one from your region of the world.
Some time ago I've downgraded my Xperia XA2, and it went smoothly.
If you use the software for EXACTLY THE SAME phone model then flashing is perfectly safe.
(actually, it's also safe if you use even some parts of software from very similar model - few days ago I just added the VoLTE and WiFi calling functionalities to my newly purchased XZ2 Premium Dual Sim using two files from regular XZ2 Dual Sim. So probably in my country I have one and only one Xperia XZ2 Premium working with VoLTE and WiFi calling in my operator's network )
Oh, and factory reset is NEVER downgrading the phone. It's only resetting phone settings to initial values and deleting all the data.
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Thanks for all the help so far emcom, I read that I have to unlock the bootloader first and Sony website says it will actually put it back to how to came out of the factory? Does that mean it'll be like, how I first got the phone new from the shop (Oreo)?
Under "preparations" https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/
Unlocking my bootloader means invalidating my warranty, I still have a year left to go on that so I decided to put up with Pie for another year before unlocking that.

harpnote said:
Thanks for all the help so far emcom, I read that I have to unlock the bootloader first and Sony website says it will actually put it back to how to came out of the factory? Does that mean it'll be like, how I first got the phone new from the shop (Oreo)?
Under "preparations" https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/
Unlocking my bootloader means invalidating my warranty, I still have a year left to go on that so I decided to put up with Pie for another year before unlocking that.
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Factory reset = fullwipe of your userdata
Please unlock your phone only if you booted the newest stock firmware before successfully

MartinX3 said:
Factory reset = fullwipe of your userdata
Please unlock your phone only if you booted the newest stock firmware before successfully
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So you're saying, before I unlock the bootloader I should update to the latest available firmware via OTA, then unlock bootloader, and then flash an older firmware using Emma/Sony's flashing program?
Sorry it took so long for me to reply... the topic didn't show up after the move and when it did, I couldnt reply cause I was always logged out on the page of the topic, and now I can finally be logged in on this page and reply.

emcom said:
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Not. Scope storage to suck up the cpu cycles for what? Killed overlays. Killed features in many apps like Karma Firewall.
Q, the big sister no one wants.
Pie is fast and stable.
The Samsung variant has a lot of none rooted customization available on the Galaxy store.
My homescreen looks exactly how I want it to.
Don't know about Sony's take on it.
Don't enable any power management as this tends to screw up apps and eat battery.

harpnote said:
So you're saying, before I unlock the bootloader I should update to the latest available firmware via OTA, then unlock bootloader, and then flash an older firmware using Emma/Sony's flashing program?
Sorry it took so long for me to reply... the topic didn't show up after the move and when it did, I couldnt reply cause I was always logged out on the page of the topic, and now I can finally be logged in on this page and reply.
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Yes, exactly, for a proper TA partition after unlock
No problem, the migration was hard work.