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Hey guys,
I already mentioned this in the German thread, however it may concern a couple of more people.
I just received my replacement. The reason I ordered one was I got 2-3 tiny little bright spots close to the top right corner on the display. Exactly they are located on the opposite side of the back camera. These pixels are brighter than all others. Though the spots are very tiny you can notice them e.g. if I look closely at the Google search bar on your home screen. It's not that they are disturbing me but I feel on a new device there should not be such issues. You never know how far this is going to get.
So, the today's device is made in Jan 2013 and it has the same spots. I want to ask if anyone of you has the same issue. Just download a pixel test app ( e.g. Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software) and look at that area at different angles and colors. I attached a picture to get a better feeling of what I mean.
Max
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me_max said:
Hey guys,
I already mentioned this in the German thread, however it may concern a couple of more people.
I just received my replacement. The reason I ordered one was I got 2-3 tiny little bright spots close to the top right corner on the display. Exactly they are located on the opposite side of the back camera. These pixels are brighter than all others. Though the spots are very tiny you can notice them e.g. if I look closely at the Google search bar on your home screen. It's not that they are disturbing me but I feel on a new device there should not be such issues. You never know how far this is going to get.
So, the today's device is made in Jan 2013 and it has the same spots. I want to ask if anyone of you has the same issue. Just download a pixel test app ( e.g. Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software) and look at that area at different angles and colors. I attached a picture to get a better feeling of what I mean.
Max
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Sometimes it is better not to go looking for these tiny flaws as often we find them.
LCD panels do have flaws, and a certain number will leave the factory with some broken pixels, some good information here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel
Some applications claim to fix these pixels by flashing the screen with lots of colours, and they seem to work for some people, typically however the pixels are intermittently broken and would have probably just started working anyway!
Manufacturers of LCD panels let a certain amount of screens through with broken pixels simply because otherwise they would be throwing too many away and so their cost would be considerably higher.
I'm not sure if yours are broken pixels however. How are you seeing these? If you are cranking the brightness up to full and viewing a dark colour you can often see tiny pin holes of light, and this is just tiny flaws in the filters which are so thinly applied tiny breaks happen, which you wouldn't see in typical use. You'll never find a screen 100% perfect if it is this you are seeing.
What do you see if you have a dark black background and the phone on normal brightness? Pixels stuck in the "on" position would be very clearly visible. On a white background stuck "off" pixels would be clearly visible, either by showing a tiny black dot, or typically a dot of a different colour.
If you can't notice them in typical use, just don't go looking for them :good:
If they are stuck pixels you have been unlucky, and the only option is another RMA.
Regards
Phil
Had a "hot pixel" almost in the same place as yours when I got the phone is December. RMAed it and the replacement is looking good now.
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Sometimes it is better not to go looking for these tiny flaws as often we find them.
Regards
Phil
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This is good advice. My last 4 phones (captivate, atrix, gnex and N4) all had some kind of defect with the screen. Captivate had slight burn in, atrix and gnex had black spots that can be seen with brightness on lowest in dark room and my N4 has minor screen bleed under the camera.
Its not hard to find problems with LCDs if you look close enough but none of the defects i had could be seen with normal usage so i didnt bother to return them. There is a chance that you will get a replacement with worst defects not to mention all the hassle of having to do a rma. But then again this is xda where people freak out when they see a scratch on the screen.
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I'm not sure if yours are broken pixels however. How are you seeing these? If you are cranking the brightness up to full and viewing a dark colour you can often see tiny pin holes of light, and this is just tiny flaws in the filters which are so thinly applied tiny breaks happen, which you wouldn't see in typical use. You'll never find a screen 100% perfect if it is this you are seeing.
What do you see if you have a dark black background and the phone on normal brightness? Pixels stuck in the "on" position would be very clearly visible. On a white background stuck "off" pixels would be clearly visible, either by showing a tiny black dot, or typically a dot of a different colour.
If you can't notice them in typical use, just don't go looking for them :good:
If they are stuck pixels you have been unlucky, and the only option is another RMA.
Regards
Phil
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Thanks, mate.
When it's black I only see light bleeding from the top. Therefore, they are not dead. I believe, during the manufacturing process a layer behind the the pixel gets damaged. I filed for another replacement. However, I don't think it'll get better.
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
Svid said:
I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
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Also true..
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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The at&t variant I personally own never gave me these issues. I have read the pink tint issues were associated with the adaptive /automatic brightness enabled?! Yet, on mine I saw no pink with it enabled or disabled.
And there are videos on YT showing burn in. It is basically the soft keys at the bottom. Triangle, circle, and the square are the culprits. But again no issues for me.
Now the very 1st day my phone did a random reboot on me - twice! But, as soon as I unlocked bootloader, rooted it, and used a custom recovery the reboots never surfaced again! Go figure?! And the nexus 6 is definately the fastest performing phone I owned yet
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
Svid said:
Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
All screens of any technology are correctly color calibrated at a given brightness and are very far off at extremes. With an LCD, it will generally be too blue at high brightness and not blue enough at low brightness. That is because the backlights are never a 6500K source. They are basically always bluer than standard.
The Note 4, to pick an AMOLED example, does not get red at very low brightness, but that is because it (according to others) has a higher minimum brightness. My screen takes on a red tint when in a dark room with adaptive brightness enabled if I have the brightness slider set below about 30%. I consider this a handy feature since I don't like the feeling of staring into a light bulb.
Above about 30%, or in a room with a light on, the screen stays normal for me.
I have not seen thecpink issue on my N6 at all.
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
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Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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letom said:
Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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Inverted, blacked out, I don't think there's a difference. The button icons themselves will eventually burn in because they are almost always on unless you opt for pie like controls, but like I said that should be over a span of years. A black background will keep everything else from wearing faster though and should give you better battery performance.
I have had the phone for a week now and have not seen either of these issues. I do keep my screen fairly dim, like minimum brightness PLUS a screen dimmer for the nights and early mornings. I do not see any pink what so ever with adaptive brightness off and the minimum setting for brightness. I only turn the screen up when outdoors. I don't know I just find the screen really bright while indoors and I would assume burn in would be more susceptible with higher brightness
So i can safely buy the device right?
Anyway i have to order the phone overseas (No 64GB avalible in my country and the price tag too high anyway).
Anyone having issues with their screens?
I have a red tint near the top right corner.. the bottom left is more bright than the top... it appears like a gradient accross the screen... noticable on dark greys... What should I do? is it a defect or are all devices like this?
Help please. any inputs will be appreciated.
How low is your brightness and is it set to adaptive?
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How low is your brightness and is it set to adaptive?
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The brightness is set to full, adaptive is off. When set to full, the tint is low but noticable.. when set to 50% the tint becomes more prominent.. and I do not have a problem with the tint.. it is just that it is not uniform.. the top right is tinted while the rest of the display is not.. it is really disturbing when reading an email or typing in landscape.
I think color uniformity issues are quite common on this device. You see some threads on reddit and also here on xda about this issue, most people have some sort of yellow or red tint on parts of their displays. The display of my Nexus 6 is a bit more yellow to the lower right of the screen, however I really only notice it on higher brightness with darker colors in apps like Google Camera or the Material Dark keyboard theme. It used to bug me in the beginning, but I somehow got used to it. I don't see the need for an RMA and get a potentially worse device with other defects as mine is perfect otherwise.
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I think color uniformity issues are quite common on this device. You see some threads on reddit and also here on xda about this issue, most people have some sort of yellow or red tint on parts of their displays. The display of my Nexus 6 is a bit more yellow to the lower right of the screen, however I really only notice it on higher brightness with darker colors in apps like Google Camera or the Material Dark keyboard theme. It used to bug me in the beginning, but I somehow got used to it. I don't see the need for an RMA and get a potentially worse device with other defects as mine is perfect otherwise.
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I was thinking the same.. it doesnt bug me that much. but when it comes to keyboard on landscape and specially the google camera dark grey background.. i can clearly see it... otherwise my device is perfect. I read a lot of articles too.. the device is expensive and at such a price getting a flawed display is unacceptable. My main question is are all amoleds like this.. because I had a galaxy s3 and it had a perfect display with no tint. Are all nexus 6's suffering from this problem or is it just a defective batch that is affecting some people. ? My device is just 2-3 day old so I can get a replacement.... although I am hesitant to do so..
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I was thinking the same.. it doesnt bug me that much. but when it comes to keyboard on landscape and specially the google camera dark grey background.. i can clearly see it... otherwise my device is perfect. I read a lot of articles too.. the device is expensive and at such a price getting a flawed display is unacceptable. My main question is are all amoleds like this.. because I had a galaxy s3 and it had a perfect display with no tint. Are all nexus 6's suffering from this problem or is it just a defective batch that is affecting some people. ? My device is just 2-3 day old so I can get a replacement.... although I am hesitant to do so..
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I know the feeling, when my device was just a few days old I freaked out like this too. It's hard to justify at this price point but the truth is, no device is perfect. I went through several N5's back in the day and none of them were perfect, most of them had a few dead pixels, creaking body or even dust particles in the camera.
If you say your device is perfect otherwise, won't you rather live with such a small and hard to notice defect than going through a cycle of potentially worse devices? If you ask me, don't go for a replacement. But in the end it's up to you.
Getting a replacement.
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I know the feeling, when my device was just a few days old I freaked out like this too. It's hard to justify at this price point but the truth is, no device is perfect. I went through several N5's back in the day and none of them were perfect, most of them had a few dead pixels, creaking body or even dust particles in the camera.
If you say your device is perfect otherwise, won't you rather live with such a small and hard to notice defect than going through a cycle of potentially worse devices? If you ask me, don't go for a replacement. But in the end it's up to you.
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Here my vendor is sending me a new device. A box packed one. It should arrive in 2-3 days. The tint on mine isn't noticable when the brightness is above 70% , but I cant use the phone continously at night at such high brightness. Besides the tint is so bugging me when reading anything.. browser, play books.. the uneven color temperature from top to bottom.. it is really annoying and considering that I have paid so much for this I wont settle for this. Lets see how the replacement is, I'll post when it arrives.
Got my replacement.
I got my replacement yesterday. THERE IS NO TINT. BUT. the display has a vertical band that is noticable at time. Well, I can put up with this atleast there is no uneven color anymore. I cannot describe how awesome it feels to use a flawless / near flawless display.
So, today at night I noticed that when I'm in the camera in dark areas, or in Spotify with a dark background. I noticed that the screen in the middle from the notch till the chin has a lighter colour than the edges. The width of it is about half the screen centred in the middle. It's kinda like how Zack (jerryrigeverything) puts a lighter to the screen and the pixels turn white, but it's not that extreme. It's only noticeable in low brightness, and dark backgrounds, not black. The most noticeable was in video on the front camera. The "stain" has a lighter blueish tone to it.
I'll leave some pictures for you to test them. I know that when I checked on my phone again with light, the stain wasn't there. Test them in a low lit area, and lower the brightness almost to the lowest setting.
The second pic is the front camera (the most noticeable in person). On xda, I find Spotify to the most noticeable.
Maybe I'm blind but for me everything is ok. Maybe you have DC dimming on. Sometimes screen may look weird in dark areas with that option turned on.
Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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Ok. I'll test it tonight. If I use another camera, it'll just blow the image or just won't show up.
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Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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I just checked settings, and I have that I had it switched off. I'll see if it makes a difference.
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Maybe I'm blind but for me everything is ok. Maybe you have DC dimming on. Sometimes screen may look weird in dark areas with that option turned on.
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so ive tested it on and off. With dc on, it made worse. So i left it off. The picture ive taken (which was the best i could take) shows a green hue highlighted with the circle. I dont think its the screen protector as it only shows up on low brightness and dark colours, especially grey. Any ideas?
P.s. It looks a bit worse in person than in the pic.
Oh, now I see but I couldn't reproduce it on my Mi9, no matter what brightness or with DC dimming on/off. I'm afraid it may be some screen issue.
That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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Thanks for the reply mate! Is there any way to tell what specific (display) model do I have?. My box says it was manufactured in July.
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That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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Since I never saw this on a Mi9, not mine or any other, I don't think this is true in the case of the Samsung display used by Xiaomi on the Mi9.
The topic starter should contact the seller and get a replacement.
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Since I never saw this on a Mi9, not mine or any other, I don't think this is true in the case of the Samsung display used by Xiaomi on the Mi9.
The topic starter should contact the seller and get a replacement.
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Will all the hassle be worthwhile though?
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Will all the hassle be worthwhile though?
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That’s entirely up to you! Can you disregard the distortion you will be ok, but if you find yourself constantly noticing it and being annoyed by it then it will be well worth the hassle I would guess. But only you know what’s right!
Have this on mine, ordered another one in hopes that I can get a better one but it was slightly worse, checked the one they had in a newly opened mi store, that one had it as well to a similar degree. Saying this doesn't happen on the mi 9 is bollocks, all of them have it to some extent, it's a question of how much you're willing to tolerate.
The best thing you can do IMO when you're in a pickle about returning something is do what I said I did: order another one but keep the first one around, compare and just keep the one you like more. That way you won't feel bad about returning the first one and being stuck with the 2nd or just being stuck with the 1st if you don't return at all. Obviously it all depends if you can fit all this into however much time you've got left to return, I was lucky to have 30 days.
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Do most OLED screen on Samsung smartphones like the Galaxy A20 get the screen burn in problems, and do LCD displays get screen burn in?
Do most OLED screens on Samsung phones get the screen burn-in problem after 1 year?
Ethrelin said:
Do most OLED screens on Samsung phones get the screen burn-in problem after 1 year?
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Yes.
Happened in all my samsung phones.. Except my current one, the s20+ but it's probably because it's still new.
My note2, my s7 edge, my note 8 all had the burn in problem. When you are close to the end of warranty, quickly look at the screen carefully for any burn in marks. If there is, quickly go change the screen under warranty, for free. 1 year later the burn in will still occur but at least it's 1 year away.
Even my sony xperia z3 has the burn in problem.
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Why do smartphones have OLED screens if they get burn-in problems easily and quickly and has pulse width modulation and can damage the customers eyes or blind them and have, this doesn’t seem safe?
@Ethrelin
Devices with OLED screen, you can expect exceptional picture and color quality. One thing you may not expect, however, is for remnants of the picture to get "burned in" into the display. Permanent damage to your OLED screen isn’t likely. How long it takes for "burn-in" to occur depends on a few factors, such as brightness and contrast settings, the size of the screen and the image displayed, but it’s likely to take hours before any noticeable discoloration will set in.
So-called "burn-in" is just “image retention”. The ghost image you see is actually just transient image persistence. This is a temporary discoloration and will go away after a short period. OEMs like Samsung consider "burn-in" to be normal "wear and tear".