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OEM Unlock never appeared

I have a N950F variant and have been waiting for 4 weeks and the OEM toggle didn't appear, first tried with the 8.0 XFA Firmware (XFA/XFA/PCT) and after2 weeks, nothing, then tried with 8.0 CPA Firmware (CPA/CPA/PCT), 2 weeks and nothing...like a month ago i activated the Developer Options on my sister's Note 8 (7.1.1) and when i was verifying if the OEM Unlock appeared she didn't have either...anyone have this same situation or know if something can be done to get the OEM Unlock?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/info-note-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140

Just a comment, the OEM unlock switch appeared in my device 1 week after 1st config run, as I was not going to root, I disregarded it completely, but today I entwred in the developers section to change the dpi, and I found that OEM UNLOCK is no longer present, odd

Are you logged into your Samsung account, have internet connection, & haven't rebooted for 168 hrs?

Mmm... I have rebooted several times since yesterday, as I was testing some nav bar overlays, I am loggeg to the samsung account

xxiForza said:
I have a N950F variant and have been waiting for 4 weeks and the OEM toggle didn't appear, first tried with the 8.0 XFA Firmware (XFA/XFA/PCT) and after2 weeks, nothing, then tried with 8.0 CPA Firmware (CPA/CPA/PCT), 2 weeks and nothing...like a month ago i activated the Developer Options on my sister's Note 8 (7.1.1) and when i was verifying if the OEM Unlock appeared she didn't have either...anyone have this same situation or know if something can be done to get the OEM Unlock?
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Have a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/oem-unlock-quick-fix-highly-recommend-t3791984. This may help.

I had the same problem but I flash the latest firmware and now I have it. Try that. It is a firmware stuff.

Conito11 said:
I had the same problem but I flash the latest firmware and now I have it. Try that. It is a firmware stuff.
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I have done that few times and i didn't have it, I'm waiting the 7 days to see if they appear again.

It worked for me

ucevik said:
Have a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/oem-unlock-quick-fix-highly-recommend-t3791984. This may help.
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Worked for me too.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

I have the option but it's greyed out. For some reason I had to use a third party app to even view the developers options as they don't show up in my settings.

jjosph said:
I have the option but it's greyed out. For some reason I had to use a third party app to even view the developers options as they don't show up in my settings.
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Do you have a demo unit, rent-a-center unit, etc.? That might explain it.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

sefrcoko said:
Do you have a demo unit, rent-a-center unit, etc.? That might explain it.
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I have a rent a center unit. Which I also found out is the Trinidadian version, at least when it comes to updates.

jjosph said:
I have a rent a center unit. Which I also found out is the Trinidadian version, at least when it comes to updates.
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Ahh...there are a few threads on that somewhere. I think they somewhat lock it down while it's still not paid in full. If that's the case then it shouldn't be circumvented...if it isn't, then I would get in touch with them (or the seller).

Regional Lock

Hi There
Hopefully some insight can be shed on this topic, it would be greatly appreciated.
I've read that all you need to do is use the device in the region of purchase for 5-10 mins of local calls & then the region lock is unlocked to any world wide sim.
- is this still the case with Samsung devices?
- lets say once the device is unlocked (in country of origin) but reset a few months later in another country other than it was bought in, will the region lock be back?
Thanks

antares* said:
Hi There
Hopefully some insight can be shed on this topic, it would be greatly appreciated.
I've read that all you need to do is use the device in the region of purchase for 5-10 mins of local calls & then the region lock is unlocked to any world wide sim.
- is this still the case with Samsung devices?
- lets say once the device is unlocked (in country of origin) but reset a few months later in another country other than it was bought in, will the region lock be back?
Thanks
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so, the question youre asking can be answered in several ways. Firstly, the locks placed on the phones are placed by the carrier, so if your phone is truly unlocked, itll never lock on to a service provider permanently. The process you describe about using it for local calls for a few min to have it grab your carrier is CSC related and more applies to whether you can use SPay and SHealth or not. There are also subsidy locks that make carrier switching impossible without an unlock. These subsidy locks can be in the firmware or even an app that was granted root permissions making it impossible to remove on snapdragon devices outside of Odin.
I guess, what issues are you trying to avoid?

Youdoofus said:
so, the question youre asking can be answered in several ways. Firstly, the locks placed on the phones are placed by the carrier, so if your phone is truly unlocked, itll never lock on to a service provider permanently. The process you describe about using it for local calls for a few min to have it grab your carrier is CSC related and more applies to whether you can use SPay and SHealth or not. There are also subsidy locks that make carrier switching impossible without an unlock. These subsidy locks can be in the firmware or even an app that was granted root permissions making it impossible to remove on snapdragon devices outside of Odin.
I guess, what issues are you trying to avoid?
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Firstly thanks for taking the time to respond. ?
So I'm not technical at these things but here's a quick background on my query.
A friend purchased a Samsung from an Asian country now while there & the box said specifically that it is made for use in that region and their sim. He's using it but won't know if it will work here till he returns. He is able to get one for me as it's much cheaper there, hence the research on the topic.
Through my search I've seen on Samsung forums people buying phones from difference regions with some able to successfully use it in their country & others not (comments vary on reasoning as to why but the use of that country local SIM seems common)
When he queried the sticker they said to just follow that calling process (I'm presuming now this is the carrier lock) However I'm not sure if there are carrier locks on the device as through my search, that country normally doesn't practice carrier locks (Service Provider) as the US or Europe does as devices are sold at any shop in Asia. So it's a bit confusing..
From your knowledge, let's say he activates & uses it for a few minutes. When he returns & I reset the device, will the lock revert back for that region or will be opened for any sim? And something that just came to mind, as the Samsung devices are regional, will this affect how updates come through or will it be based on that regional timetable for updates?
Thanks again

antares* said:
Firstly thanks for taking the time to respond.
So I'm not technical at these things but here's a quick background on my query.
A friend purchased a Samsung from an Asian country now while there & the box said specifically that it is made for use in that region and their sim. He's using it but won't know if it will work here till he returns. He is able to get one for me as it's much cheaper there, hence the research on the topic.
Through my search I've seen on Samsung forums people buying phones from difference regions with some able to successfully use it in their country & others not (comments vary on reasoning as to why but the use of that country local SIM seems common)
When he queried the sticker they said to just follow that calling process (I'm presuming now this is the carrier lock) However I'm not sure if there are carrier locks on the device as through my search, that country normally doesn't practice carrier locks (Service Provider) as the US or Europe does as devices are sold at any shop in Asia. So it's a bit confusing..
From your knowledge, let's say he activates & uses it for a few minutes. When he returns & I reset the device, will the lock revert back for that region or will be opened for any sim? And something that just came to mind, as the Samsung devices are regional, will this affect how updates come through or will it be based on that regional timetable for updates?
Thanks again
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terrible questions.. i tell ya what..... TOTALLY KIDDING!!
actually very solid questions and its also great to hear people doing this kind of research prior to pulling the trigger. I commend you
Anywho, lets see.
1: What Asian country? Yes, it matters. Or if you can get the model number from the download mode screen, that would be helpful too. If you dont know how to get to the DL mode, power the phone off, hold down the volume down button along with power and itll boot to a warning screen that will say volume up to continue to download mode or volume down to reboot normally. If you cant get that kind of access to the phone (or your friend rather) then its a crap shoot as many phones being offered up like this have been found to be non-us versions or even worse, utter fakes. Buyer beware if you cant get to download mode to at least check that too. Download mode is the hardest part to fake, fwiw
2: Galaxy S devices come in 2 flavors, Snapdragon and Exynos. Well, 3 i guess, the 3rd being fake. Snapdragons are the only ones that can work on CDMA carriers such as Sprint and VZW, Exynos phones work on GSM only. SD phones can also use GSM services, but the Exynos equipped phones are GSM only. SD are not rootable, Exynos are.
3: The part about your friend using it with their SIM and having problems strictly due to that. No. So long as its a legit USA model with no financial locks on it etc etc, you will be just fine. You might have to flash a CSC file in download mode or perhaps even the entire firmware (doubt youd need to do that last part), but if its an unlocked SnapDragon model built for the US market, then youre good to go.
4: make sure it doesnt have a FRP lock enabled. As long as your friend can boot it up and get past the login screen, you should be fine.
5: The last bit about the SIM again, as long as its a legit G973U with no locks and FRP inst on, you should be good to use it on any USA carrier no matter where it was initially used.
6: updates are issues out in order of IMEI batches. Being physically in a country outside of the one that the firmware is for can and often does impede updates, but thats not a worry as updates can be easily flashed manually and once the phone is on the correct CSC and physically in the right country, then updates will go on as normal.
7: youre welcome

Youdoofus said:
terrible questions.. i tell ya what..... TOTALLY KIDDING!!
actually very solid questions and its also great to hear people doing this kind of research prior to pulling the trigger. I commend you
Anywho, lets see.
1: What Asian country? Yes, it matters. Or if you can get the model number from the download mode screen, that would be helpful too. If you dont know how to get to the DL mode, power the phone off, hold down the volume down button along with power and itll boot to a warning screen that will say volume up to continue to download mode or volume down to reboot normally. If you cant get that kind of access to the phone (or your friend rather) then its a crap shoot as many phones being offered up like this have been found to be non-us versions or even worse, utter fakes. Buyer beware if you cant get to download mode to at least check that too. Download mode is the hardest part to fake, fwiw
2: Galaxy S devices come in 2 flavors, Snapdragon and Exynos. Well, 3 i guess, the 3rd being fake. Snapdragons are the only ones that can work on CDMA carriers such as Sprint and VZW, Exynos phones work on GSM only. SD phones can also use GSM services, but the Exynos equipped phones are GSM only. SD are not rootable, Exynos are.
3: The part about your friend using it with their SIM and having problems strictly due to that. No. So long as its a legit USA model with no financial locks on it etc etc, you will be just fine. You might have to flash a CSC file in download mode or perhaps even the entire firmware (doubt youd need to do that last part), but if its an unlocked SnapDragon model built for the US market, then youre good to go.
4: make sure it doesnt have a FRP lock enabled. As long as your friend can boot it up and get past the login screen, you should be fine.
5: The last bit about the SIM again, as long as its a legit G973U with no locks and FRP inst on, you should be good to use it on any USA carrier no matter where it was initially used.
6: updates are issues out in order of IMEI batches. Being physically in a country outside of the one that the firmware is for can and often does impede updates, but thats not a worry as updates can be easily flashed manually and once the phone is on the correct CSC and physically in the right country, then updates will go on as normal.
7: youre welcome
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Firstly apologies for the long delay in response, just been crazily busy and was doing research on what you said soon I am up to scratch to what you said.
1. It is from India, and yes I am aware of fakes so any purchases will be from reputable seller's. I'll have to do some research on that because I'm sure the different Samsung models will have their own codes.
2. I believe for that region they get Exynos variants.
3. From looking at some of the Samsung models online I see the product code ends with "INS" which I'm pretty sure relates to India and that country only so probably I will have to follow the DL mode you explained for my region in changing the CSC
4. I never knew about this.. How does one make sure its not enabled? Is this in the process that relates to no.3 during the CSC change?
5. Not from the US but good to know lol
6. Perfect lol
7. Thanks again, appreciate it :good::good:

antares* said:
Firstly apologies for the long delay in response, just been crazily busy and was doing research on what you said soon I am up to scratch to what you said.no worries mate, life happens. I just hope all is well in your part of the universe
1. It is from India, and yes I am aware of fakes so any purchases will be from reputable seller's. I'll have to do some research on that because I'm sure the different Samsung models will have their own codes. booting to recovery will generally tell you if its fake or not. you cant fake knox
2. I believe for that region they get Exynos variants. i believe so too. Id just get pretty much any F variant of the phone model you want and youll likely be able to get it working from there
3. From looking at some of the Samsung models online I see the product code ends with "INS" which I'm pretty sure relates to India and that country only so probably I will have to follow the DL mode you explained for my region in changing the CSC. just stick with the F models, you can flash whatever carrier stuff you need after you have it in hand
4. I never knew about this.. How does one make sure its not enabled? Is this in the process that relates to no.3 during the CSC change? Itll show you this in the download mode screen. Itll say FRP: on or FRP: OFF
5. Not from the US but good to know lol
6. Perfect lol
7. Thanks again, appreciate it :good::good:
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always glad to help bro!

OEM unlock option is greyed out, How enable it ?

I have recently purchased a Pixel 4 XL, in order to root it I have enabled USB debugging however the option of OEM unlock is greyed out, that means I won't be able to unlock the bootloader.
I want to root my phone in order to install Substratum themes, Please help me and let me know how I can enable OEM unlock option on my phone.
I have updated my Pixel 4 XL with latest MAY20 system update.

Purav786 said:
I have recently purchased a Pixel 4 XL, in order to root it I have enabled USB debugging however the option of OEM unlock is greyed out, that means I won't be able to unlock the bootloader.
I want to root my phone in order to install Substratum themes, Please help me and let me know how I can enable OEM unlock option on my phone.
I have updated my Pixel 4 XL with latest MAY20 system update.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/how-to-sim-unlock-pixel-4xl-t-mobile-t4081235

My phone is not network locked phone, I have a Sim unlocked phone.... Only issue is Developer option is greyed out and I want to enable it.

It really depends on your carrier. If you bought it directly from Google (unlocked or Google Fi), it should be available without contacting anyone. I've heard that it might not be available until it has been activated for a few days with service. Otherwise, I've heard that you may need to fully wipe all user data before it becomes available. The process of OEM unlocking will wipe all user data as well, so you must be prepared for that eventuality.
If you did not get it from Google, the waters become murky and your success will vary.

Purav786 said:
I have recently purchased a Pixel 4 XL, in order to root it I have enabled USB debugging however the option of OEM unlock is greyed out, that means I won't be able to unlock the bootloader.
I want to root my phone in order to install Substratum themes, Please help me and let me know how I can enable OEM unlock option on my phone.
I have updated my Pixel 4 XL with latest MAY20 system update.
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If you bought a Pixel 4 XL with a unlockable bootloader, use this Guide to root.
Most Pixel 4 XL that are purchased from Carriers with the exception of Google Fi are not bootloader unlockable.

Purav786 said:
My phone is not network locked phone, I have a Sim unlocked phone.... Only issue is Developer option is greyed out and I want to enable it.
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You aren't providing much useful information to solve your problem in your OP. Post a screenshot of your bootloader page, and what are the first two digits of your IMEI's. If you have already 100% WIPED your phone, skipped through setup and gone straight to dev settings with an active Wi-FI signal and get a greyed out OEM unlock , you will likely never succeed because you inadvertently purchased a bootloader locked phone. SIM unlocked definitely does not equal BL unlockable.

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You aren't providing much useful information to solve your problem in your OP. Post a screenshot of your bootloader page, and what are the first two digits of your IMEI's. If you have already 100% WIPED your phone, skipped through setup and gone straight to dev settings with an active Wi-FI signal and get a greyed out OEM unlock , you will likely never succeed because you inadvertently purchased a bootloader locked phone. SIM unlocked definitely does not equal BL unlockable.
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So that means my phone is bootloader locked phone and there is no way to unlock it...

Purav786 said:
So that means my phone is bootloader locked phone and there is no way to unlock it...
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Remove SIM, factory reset from recovery, initiate setup enabling Wi-Fi, proceed to dev settings and check "Allow OEM unlocking". If you have completely wiped the phone and OEM unlocking is still greyed out, then your phone is bootloader locked and there is no workaround.

I downgraded my p40 lite to lowest version of emui...
which is 10.0.1.108 and oem unlock option appeared but its grayed out and I took advice from the guy in this thread that said call them and tell them you are developer and you need it to install android 11 and they were like oh ok then will figure this out and give you a call hahahahhaahahahhahah awesome dude it worked
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I saw there is a tool created by skyemie on github that uses bruteforce method to retrieve the unlock code so if they fix my oem grayed option then I will try that and give you all update if everything worked.

Just a FWIW: I bought two phones from Google directly and returned both since OEM was greyed out on both. Third try I purchased one off Swappa and it worked. Something to do with the IMEI... Search for posts started by me.. It's a looooong thread.

If you got your pixel from Verizon, just call them and say that you're a developer and you need OEM unlocking. They'll need your IMEI and Verizon account number tho to check that you're the owner. If you got it second hand you may have to contact the person you bought it from.

CoNsTaR said:
If you got your pixel from Verizon, just call them and say that you're a developer and you need OEM unlocking. They'll need your IMEI and Verizon account number tho to check that you're the owner. If you got it second hand you may have to contact the person you bought it from.
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Do you have a source for this? The only official answer I've seen is that Verizon has no process in place to enable OEM unlocking. It's actually baked into the ROM.

V0latyle said:
Do you have a source for this? The only official answer I've seen is that Verizon has no process in place to enable OEM unlocking. It's actually baked into the ROM.
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I did it. I saw someone saying that calling T-Mobile does the job so I just decided to call Verizon too and it worked.

CoNsTaR said:
I did it. I saw someone saying that calling T-Mobile does the job so I just decided to call Verizon too and it worked.
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Well, that's interesting. What exactly were the circumstances, and how did you get unlocked? Such as, were you using the phone on the VZW network? Did they push a software update or something?

V0latyle said:
Well, that's interesting. What exactly were the circumstances, and how did you get unlocked? Such as, were you using the phone on the VZW network? Did they push a software update or something?
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From what I know, by the moment you install a Verizon SIM on your pixel, it becomes a Verizon phone. How they do this is that they'll add your phone's IMEI to their database, and until it's deleted from their database your phone will be a Verizon phone. You can check that by trying adding an eSIM, if it says anything about Verizon at the QR code step, you know it's still bound to Verizon.
I think the mechanism of checking if the phone is bound to any carrier is baked in the ROM, but not the information itself. I do see people saying that it needs time for the records to be propagated after they've removed you from their database, but YMMV.
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No, I wasn't on the VZW network.

CoNsTaR said:
From what I know, by the moment you install a Verizon SIM on your pixel, it becomes a Verizon phone. How they do this is that they'll add your phone's IMEI to their database, and until it's deleted from their database your phone will be a Verizon phone. You can check that by trying adding an eSIM, if it says anything about Verizon at the QR code step, you know it's still bound to Verizon.
I think the mechanism of checking if the phone is bound to any carrier is baked in the ROM, but not the information itself. I do see people saying that it needs time for the records to be propagated after they've removed you from their database, but YMMV.
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No, I wasn't on the VZW network.
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Right, and I'm asking exactly how you did it.

V0latyle said:
Right, and I'm asking exactly how you did it.
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The ONLY thing I did is to call them, tell them I am a developer and I need OEM unlocking, and provide the information they needed. Hope this answers your question.

I've called Verizon 6 times and talked to several reps and no idea what I'm talking about. I was even sent to 2nd tier and nothing. The 2nd tier rep said he's worked at vzw for 8 years and has never seen or heard of this happening. So I find this whole thing hard to believe.

I am just providing my experience, and maybe someone will benefit from it. I came across this thread when I did my research so I thought I should share it here too.
If more details may help, I called them with the number 800-922-0204, on Oct 27 9:48 AM, the time I spent on the call was 36m4s (30m or so was waiting on the line), and I was on Fido network (Canadian).
When the system asked me about my area code or something like that before they connect me with a human, I both entered # key, and also chose something like I want to be a Verizon customer.
That's really all what I did, and I got it done on the first try. This was my first time calling Verizon, so I don't know much about 2nd tier or what not, but that's all I wanted to share here.

hey guys I know I'm not in the right group but I've been looking at Any Pixel related posts to try to get OEM unlock and came across some options using dialer code *#*#0702#*#* which is ims setting, sim provisioning and a lot more in which are editable. could we find something to do with network unlock in those settings? I'm attaching screen shots of this find. I'm very limited in knowledge as this is my first pixel. oh and Btw I have the spectrum mobile variant of the Google pixel 7 pro. I have always been under the assumption that pixels were able to be flashed with official firmware without bootloader unlocked, but apparently pixel 7s have to have network unlock at least to enable OEM unlock toggle to flash official firmware even with the Android flash tool. if anybody could shine some light on this for me I would greatly appreciate it as I have never been able to come across this type of information before on any other device

GrapeneOS Compatibility?

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are versions of the Google Pixel 5 that have locked bootloaders? For example on the Galaxy S10e Snapdragon model you can't enable OEM unlocking with a certain bootloader version, however on the Exynos version this isn't as much of an issue. Are there specific updates on the Google Pixel that may prevent you from using GrapheneOS? If I get a Google Pixel I want to ensure it will be compatible with GrapheneOS.
Thanks!

Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.

andybones said:
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?

Skyty said:
I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
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I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.

andybones said:
I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
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And here we come full circle once again. The problem is that unlocked does not mean bootloader unlockable which I know you know but others might not. GrapheneOS needs to have an unlocked bootloader or it will not install. I don't know how a buyer can get a business to boot into the OS in order to see if the OEM switch is active. But as you state that is really the only way to tell. @Skyty which carrier are you using? I don't know how you will get that guarantee that you can unlock the bootloader but that is really what you need to do if you can't handle the phone.

In the case of Pixels, the unlocked version has the added bonus of having an unlockable bootloader, Google doesn't seem to play the games that Samsung does. They're both carrier unlocked and don't have the bootloader super locked down.

andybones said:
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.

Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but in my post I did say "usually" the way to go.
And, just to state, I had no issues with VoLTE on my rooted, unlocked variant P5 on Verizon, nor At&T, VoWIFI works also.. what am I doing special? Just curious. Here I am on a call using VoLTE.

Also, if they are creating VoLTE Magisk modules for China and more. This is the first complaint I've read about this issue. My HTC 10 was also an unlocked variant on Verizon with VoLTE, Wi-Fi Calling and preferred options were the same as my brother stock un-rooted Verizon variant. So, I'm lost. Sorry.

Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.

bobby janow said:
Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.

Schroeder09 said:
When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?

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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
Schroeder09 said:
When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.

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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.

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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
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No, I'm not that lucky, believe you me.
And I've let this go on long enough.
Anymore OT on this subject gets deleted.
Thank you.

I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked

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I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
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I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.

bobby janow said:
I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
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I usually add +40 to +75, unless I have original boxes and accessories. They really do sell for more, and people pay it.
As for the VZW P5, I have a few in my shop office right now that cannot be unlocked and their IMEI reads back as a Verizon phone, double checked by inserting another SIM and comes up locked. VZW Statement on unlocking is "if the phone was paid off (6 months of payments), it will auto unlock" .. so you probably have one that's paid off.

No, I bought the Google version. Even paid up you can't unlock the Verizon version. It's just the way they operate.
Seems like a fair price. This is the article I was talking about. https://9to5google.com/2021/09/05/n...-focused-grapheneos-that-costs-twice-as-much/

Samsung Galaxy S10 - Unlocked Phone (AT&T Blocked Call Issue)

So many people are reporting with the 3/1 sweep by AT&T, that they are blocking almost all Unlocked phones: See: Downdector Link We personally have a S10 (G973U1). AT&T is saying on this list: AT&T approved phone list that it is supposed to work. But like many other people "calls" end immediately, but we can text and data work. It is some sorta ploy by AT&T to force us to upgrade our phones. They want us all to upgrade to S22s. Anyway I was ranting. Anyway, if you look at that link, they are saying that the phone has to be on the latest software. The last update from AT&T or the manufacturer was in January. I checked the firmware site, and Android 11 is the latest in January. I'm wondering if there is some hack to get us on to '12' or something. An update might solve this issue. We know that a new SIM does not work. Calls seem to be rejected on the network, just based on the phone model or Android version.
We are aware that a version 12 is out there for the phone, just that firmware is not for our US-unlocked model yet. But maybe it can be hacked?
Edit: It appears this thread may be linked with this older one... But it is ever more pressing issue now:
S10 Unlocked phone with AT&T Firmware here they explain how, and the problems with flashing. This was back in 2019, so I'm not sure if this will still work. Even then it didn't work for everyone. Some in that forum claimed that it did. AT&T seems to now be blocking from their calling network any phones not enabled with VOLTE and the extended AT&T services that are not present in Unlocked phones.

robertkjr3d said:
So many people are reporting with the 3/1 sweep by AT&T, that they are blocking almost all Unlocked phones: See: Downdector Link We personally have a S10 (G973U1). AT&T is saying on this list: AT&T approved phone list that it is supposed to work. But like many other people "calls" end immediately, but we can text and data work. It is some sorta ploy by AT&T to force us to upgrade our phones. They want us all to upgrade to S22s. Anyway I was ranting. Anyway, if you look at that link, they are saying that the phone has to be on the latest software. The last update from AT&T or the manufacturer was in January. I checked the firmware site, and Android 11 is the latest in January. I'm wondering if there is some hack to get us on to '12' or something. An update might solve this issue. We know that a new SIM does not work. Calls seem to be rejected on the network, just based on the phone model or Android version.
We are aware that a version 12 is out there for the phone, just that firmware is not for our US-unlocked model yet. But maybe it can be hacked?
Edit: It appears this thread may be linked with this older one... But it is ever more pressing issue now:
S10 Unlocked phone with AT&T Firmware here they explain how, and the problems with flashing. This was back in 2019, so I'm not sure if this will still work. Even then it didn't work for everyone. Some in that forum claimed that it did. AT&T seems to now be blocking from their calling network any phones not enabled with VOLTE and the extended AT&T services that are not present in Unlocked phones.
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I was helped by a user to achieve ascendance onto the AT&T network. I'm not sure if I'm to reveal his name. We 1) go into Developers mode on the phone. 2) Hack the Kernel. 3) Flash the rom to the G973U (model)... with the AT&T firmware. So that the Wifi-Calling and 5G features would work, and AT&T would allow it on their network.

robertkjr3d said:
I was helped by a user to achieve ascendance onto the AT&T network. I'm not sure if I'm to reveal his name. We 1) go into Developers mode on the phone. 2) Hack the Kernel. 3) Flash the rom to the G973U (model)... with the AT&T firmware. So that the Wifi-Calling and 5G features would work, and AT&T would allow it on their network.
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I've literally been searching for an answer to this for days now. My wife and I have S10's. I work far from home so I really need her phone working in case of emergency. Can you please point me in the general direction? Thanks!

Agreed, I didn't know such a thing was possible, but I'd love to hear more about this!

skrapmetal said:
I've literally been searching for an answer to this for days now. My wife and I have S10's. I work far from home so I really need her phone working in case of emergency. Can you please point me in the general direction? Thanks!
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At first I had to use the Samsung Band Selector app from the Play store and go into More Network Settings > AT&T > Preferred Network Type and choose 3G. Unfortunately this killed LTE so all data and calls were going through H+. As I was mostly on wifi I could live with it since I could actually use the phone again.
Then Friday morning I checked for updates and there was the update to take me to Android 12. I took the update then when it finished it said it needed to reboot to connect new SIM to carrier services....it wasn't a new SIM. I let it reboot and everything was working with VoLTE again.
Hope this helps.

KennyG123 said:
At first I had to use the Samsung Band Selector app from the Play store and go into More Network Settings > AT&T > Preferred Network Type and choose 3G. Unfortunately this killed LTE so all data and calls were going through H+. As I was mostly on wifi I could live with it since I could actually use the phone again.
Then Friday morning I checked for updates and there was the update to take me to Android 12. I took the update then when it finished it said it needed to reboot to connect new SIM to carrier services....it wasn't a new SIM. I let it reboot and everything was working with VoLTE again.
Hope this helps.
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I appreciate you getting back to me. Unfortunately I am still on android 11 with a custom ROM and also this is a global phone so that app didnt work for me. I dont receive OTA updatez. I'll update to a new ROM and see what happens. Thanks