It's been awhile but the last time this was brought up was in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-4x/help/magisk-doesnt-pie-roms-t3848025
Eversince interacting with the people in the thread I've been stuck on Oreo Non-treble for almost a year now, I've been dying to upgrade to 9.0, but the thing is the problem I had almost a year ago STILL persists to this day. I've tried installing Latest Magisk 19.0/19.1 on Latest AEX, Havoc and, PE.
I don't want to be stuck on Oreo forever, please to those who got root (Magisk) working on their Pie ROMS please help me. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and help me!
Dont flash while you flash the rom let the rom setup then install the magisk apk and then flash the 18.1 magisk I do this mine always work on every rom
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Dont flash while you flash the rom let the rom setup then install the magisk apk and then flash the 18.1 magisk I do this mine always work on every rom
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I did what you said before posting this thread but flashed 19.0 and 19.1. I'll do it again with 18.1 later, i'm currently back on oreo.
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I did what you said before posting this thread but flashed 19.0 and 19.1. I'll do it again with 18.1 later, i'm currently back on oreo.
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So, what,s the problem, magisk apk shows you: not installed?
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So, what,s the problem, magisk apk shows you: not installed?
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Pretty much, yes.
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Pretty much, yes.
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So, I have had a problem for several months. With magisk. Always shows me not installed on stock kernel. Then I install gabriel kernel and magisk root my phone.
Try!
I do not have to worry about switching the phone off or restarting. Magisk just works.
Hi
Same problem, same solution : flash a custom kernel ! Jaguar kernel works, Gabriel kernel seems to work too !
newbie_or_not_newbie said:
Hi
Same problem, same solution : flash a custom kernel ! Jaguar kernel works, Gabriel kernel seems to work too !
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zkoz said:
So, I have had a problem for several months. With magisk. Always shows me not installed on stock kernel. Then I install gabriel kernel and magisk root my phone.
Try!
I do not have to worry about switching the phone off or restarting. Magisk just works.
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What's the order of the flashing? Do I flash the Kernel right after the GAPPS or do I flash it after the initial setup (allowing the phone to boot and finish the setup)
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What's the order of the flashing? Do I flash the Kernel right after the GAPPS or do I flash it after the initial setup (allowing the phone to boot and finish the setup)
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I do:
Clean partitions,
Flash rom,
Flash kernel
Flash magisk,
Reboot to system.
I dont know how it with gapps because i use microg
I think you ncan flash gapps after rom, then reboot nto system, then reboot to recovery and flash the other things.
And? Did you run magisk on pie?
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And? Did you run magisk on pie?
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I actually managed to run Magisk (with working root) on pie, after flashing Latest Rockstar Kernel. Thanks for helping!
Sygnomi said:
I actually managed to run Magisk (with working root) on pie, after flashing Latest Rockstar Kernel. Thanks for helping!
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Yeah, it looks like magisk also works with rockstar :]
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Hi, I'm using Magisk on my LG G2 with RessurectionRemix 5.7 and am looking to update to the Nougat version 5.8. I want to start clean, so will wipe system before the update, but will I have to flash Magisk again after that? What are the steps here, flash the ROM + gapps, unroot, flash Magisk?
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Hi, I'm using Magisk on my LG G2 with RessurectionRemix 5.7 and am looking to update to the Nougat version 5.8. I want to start clean, so will wipe system before the update, but will I have to flash Magisk again after that? What are the steps here, flash the ROM + gapps, unroot, flash Magisk?
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Yep that should be about it. To be sure try safetynet after unrooting and after magisk
guessingagain said:
Yep that should be about it. To be sure try safetynet after unrooting and after magisk
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Flashed the ROM and magisk last night, so far so good, safetynet passes I went for a clean install this time, but if I was to dirty flash an update now would magisk survive that?
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Flashed the ROM and magisk last night, so far so good, safetynet passes I went for a clean install this time, but if I was to dirty flash an update now would magisk survive that?
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No because Magisk modifies the boot image, which gets overwritten with a new one when you flash a ROM, clean or dirty. So you'll need to flash Magisk again.
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No because Magisk modifies the boot image, which gets overwritten with a new one when you flash a ROM, clean or dirty. So you'll need to flash Magisk again.
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Was suspecting this might be the case, thanks for clarifying this. At least I know all the steps now, should be only getting more familiar with every flash
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Flashed the ROM and magisk last night, so far so good, safetynet passes I went for a clean install this time, but if I was to dirty flash an update now would magisk survive that?
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afaik Resurrection Remix has addon.d (check if /system/addon.d exists)
you can test this https://github.com/osm0sis/GN-Synap...mdisk/res/synapse/scripts/999-customkernel.sh or modify it to flash magisk instead of the backup (in case you got an updated kernel)
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afaik Resurrection Remix has addon.d (check if /system/addon.d exists)
you can test this https://github.com/osm0sis/GN-Synap...mdisk/res/synapse/scripts/999-customkernel.sh or modify it to flash magisk instead of the backup (in case you got an updated kernel)
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wow, that'd be great if it worked. I can confirm addon.d exists, I might try this next time. Do I just put the script into addon.d and flash ROM?
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Do I just put the script into addon.d and flash ROM?
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yes :good:
//btw:
yesterday I posted a feature request to add this to Magisk Manager: https://github.com/topjohnwu/MagiskManager/issues/72
crusader727 said:
yes :good:
//btw:
yesterday I posted a feature request to add this to Magisk Manager: https://github.com/topjohnwu/MagiskManager/issues/72
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Flashed an RR update to 5.8.1 over the weekend and it went smoother than I expected, to be honest. Didn't use the script you mentioned in the end, just flashed the new ROM, gapps, unsu.zip, magisk and phh's su in TWRP and rebooted. Simple.
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Flashed an RR update to 5.8.1 over the weekend and it went smoother than I expected, to be honest. Didn't use the script you mentioned in the end, just flashed the new ROM, gapps, unsu.zip, magisk and phh's su in TWRP and rebooted. Simple.
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Yes, of course the manual method works :good:
phh-SU was removed in Magisk v11 btw - root is now integrated (MagiskSU).
I still need to have phh's Superuser management app installed. And now on boot I get a notification that my SU binary is out of date. The transition here has been a bit rough.
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I still need to have phh's Superuser management app installed. And now on boot I get a notification that my SU binary is out of date. The transition here has been a bit rough.
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Are you on about updating your ROM or magisk? Phh su app is required for magisk v10.2, you need to remove it if you're using magisk v11 or later
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No because Magisk modifies the boot image, which gets overwritten with a new one when you flash a ROM, clean or dirty. So you'll need to flash Magisk again.
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In reference to this, does reflashing Magisk alter anything within Magisk? Namely and really the only thing that would come to mind is it downgrading the Manager app to whatever is in the installer and possibly resetting it settings.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I clean install Purenexus 7.1.2 (latest) with the recommended gapps, let it boot and get setup. Then I install Magisk and let it fully reboot. Then I try installing the ElementalX 4.20 kernal and it won't finish booting after that. Help! I did it twice now and got the same result.
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Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I clean install Purenexus 7.1.2 (latest) with the recommended gapps, let it boot and get setup. Then I install Magisk and let it fully reboot. Then I try installing the ElementalX 4.20 kernal and it won't finish booting after that. Help! I did it twice now and got the same result.
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Hello,
Maybe try this way:
Install ROM and reboot to system
Reboot twrp, Install kernel first and magisk.
Reboot.
Good luck...
That seems to be working. Thanks!
Jwikoff99 said:
That seems to be working. Thanks!
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Hey,
You're welcome.
As both Magisk and EXKernel alter boot.img, I guess EX needs to be installed first. If you install after Magisk, it brakes a part of Magisk modifications. Hence the bootloop. But it's just an assumption.
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Mmmh,
I did a clean flash with ROM (purenexus_shamu-7.1.2-20170423-OFFICIAL), GApps (BeansGapps-Mini-7.1.x-20170415) - reboot and start new system.
Than I fashed Magisk-v12.0 for root and installed Magisk-Manager.
After that I flashed ElementalX-N6-4.20 (and today ElementalX-N6-4.21).
Everything runs without any issue!
Yeah I was kinda wondering what happens when I try to install a kernel update since that would be like what I was doing before.
Hello, so I decided to reflash my ROM because I kept running into issues, and I didn't uninstall Magisk before doing so.
Then when I tried flashing Magisk it showed me error 1. Flashing the uninstaller gives the same error. Magisk Manager shows that it is not installed, Root Checker states that the device is unrooted, and so far the only app that mentioned my phone being rooted is LastPass.
What can I possibly do to reinstall Magisk so it's back on my device in its full grace?
I checked other posts and either they are not related to my problem or didn't help
Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon, Recovery: official TWRP non-treble, ROM: latest build of official AOSP Extended
Maybe try dirty flashing and flashing Magisk again?
Not Sally when Magisk is already installed, I can flash it again with no problem. Weird that you're having these issues. ?
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Hello, so I decided to reflash my ROM because I kept running into issues, and I didn't uninstall Magisk before doing so.
Then when I tried flashing Magisk it showed me error 1. Flashing the uninstaller gives the same error. Magisk Manager shows that it is not installed, Root Checker states that the device is unrooted, and so far the only app that mentioned my phone being rooted is LastPass.
What can I possibly do to reinstall Magisk so it's back on my device in its full grace?
I checked other posts and either they are not related to my problem or didn't help
Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon, Recovery: official TWRP non-treble, ROM: latest build of official AOSP Extended
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Did you wipe everything? Wipe system and data before re flashing your rom.
@LennyTheCat To be absolutely sure what's going on you're going to have to provide the recovery log, saved after you've attempted you flash Magisk.
madbat99 said:
Did you wipe everything? Wipe system and data before re flashing your rom.
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Yes I did
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@LennyTheCat To be absolutely sure what's going on you're going to have to provide the recovery log, saved after you've attempted you flash Magisk.
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Will provide later now I have stuff to do
@Didgeridoohan here's the log file
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@Didgeridoohan here's the log file
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Try updating your TWRP. That has solved "cannot mount vendor" for other Mido users.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/5903?query=mido cannot mount vendor
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Try updating your TWRP. That has solved "cannot mount vendor" for other Mido users.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/5903?query=mido cannot mount vendor
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well, it has installed no problem, but then my phone got stuck in a bootloop after rebooting. I have to reflash everything now, will tell if it worked later
@Didgeridoohan when I install Magisk, the phone keeps running into bootloops. Clean install of the ROM and Gapps seems to work fine. Tried 16.0 and 16.4 packages
LennyTheCat said:
@Didgeridoohan when I install Magisk, the phone keeps running into bootloops. Clean install of the ROM and Gapps seems to work fine. Tried 16.0 and 16.4 packages
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Well... You're using a Treble ROM, right? So I'm assuming you're using a Treble modified Magisk version (since there's no official Treble support in Magisk yet)... If not, I'm sure you can find the relevant information in your ROM's thread.
Always go to the source...
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Well... You're using a Treble ROM, right? So I'm assuming you're using a Treble modified Magisk version (since there's no official Treble support in Magisk yet)... If not, I'm sure you can find the relevant information in your ROM's thread.
Always go to the source...
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I decided to flash Lineage OS and then I flashed the Magisk package included in the post. Now it's working all squeaky and shiny. Thanks for help anyway
why Pixel experience rom is not available for redmi note 10s yet?
i beg developers attention, plz make this rom for redmi note 10s
there is not an official TWRP, thats why.... but you can still install GSI roms
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there is not an official TWRP, thats why.... but you can still install GSI roms
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I have some question
1. Does phone manufacture provide this twrp?
2. how can I install GSI ROMs?
3. Is there any possibility to release the twrp mode?
is there any change to release pixel experience for redmi note 10s
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I have some question
1. Does phone manufacture provide this twrp?
2. how can I install GSI ROMs?
3. Is there any possibility to release the twrp mode?
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1. we already have twrp
2. fastbootd
3. what
Oh btw just to add, lineageos (built from source) booted, but don't expect it to be released soon, nor pixel experience to get released
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1. we already have twrp
2. fastbootd
3. what
Oh btw just to add, lineageos (built from source) booted, but don't expect it to be released soon, nor pixel experience to get released
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but eventually note 10s will get pixel experience right , i mean without bugs
phoenixnithish2112 said:
but eventually note 10s will get pixel experience right , i mean without bugs
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too late
does flashing a miui rom;for example miui14; using pe recovery lock the bootloader again?
is there way to flash to the new miui14 without locking back the bootloader?
thank you
kidbetin said:
does flashing a miui rom;for example miui14; using pe recovery lock the bootloader again?
is there way to flash to the new miui14 without locking back the bootloader?
thank you
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No, you will get a nice bootloop if you try that
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No, you will get a nice bootloop if you try that
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thank you
what rom can i flash with the pe recovery?
kidbetin said:
thank you
what rom can i flash with the pe recovery?
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none if you want still have a phone to use
There is one rom now https://download.pixelexperience.org/rosemary/
Has anyone installed the PE rom yet? I tried yesterday, following the instructions, and just got a boot loop after flashing the PE recovery rom.
However, the instructions confused me a little...
Flash a recovery on your device by typing (replace <recovery_filename> with the actual filename!):
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fastboot flash boot <recovery_filename>.img
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(My bold)
Should that be 'fastboot flash recovery' ??
Also, I'm not coming from stock but from a custom ROM (riceDroid). Would that make a difference?
Thanks for any (kind) comments
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Has anyone installed the PE rom yet? I tried yesterday, following the instructions, and just got a boot loop after flashing the PE recovery rom.
However, the instructions confused me a little...
(My bold)
Should that be 'fastboot flash recovery' ??
Also, I'm not coming from stock but from a custom ROM (riceDroid). Would that make a difference?
Thanks for any (kind) comments
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Hey, I ran into the same problem today. If I find a solution, I'll let you know. I would be glad if you share too.
I tried again yesterday to install Pixel Experience, and again it just boot loops when booting into recovery mode. I've now reinstalled stock Miui and will try again.
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Has anyone installed the PE rom yet? I tried yesterday, following the instructions, and just got a boot loop after flashing the PE recovery rom.
However, the instructions confused me a little...
(My bold)
Should that be 'fastboot flash recovery' ??
Also, I'm not coming from stock but from a custom ROM (riceDroid). Would that make a difference?
Thanks for any (kind) comments
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There no recovery partition so it shouldn't. I'm on this ROM currently and have no problems with installation. The guide says that you need to be on latest global a11 miui (12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM). You didn't miss that?
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There no recovery partition so it shouldn't. I'm on this ROM currently and have no problems with installation. The guide says that you need to be on latest global a11 miui (12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM). You didn't miss that?
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I've no idea what version of the bootloader I'm on as getprop ro.bootloader returns 'unknown'
But, as I'm on "latest" v13 Miui, I suspect the bootloader is the wrong one. Do I have to downdate to 12.5 before installing PE?
Edit: I've downdated the device to 12.5 RKLMIXM and have flased the PE recovery image, all okay. It's now installing the PE zip, so fingers crossed that's it.
Edit edit: I have PE on my device! Thank you at @xuser_0 for highlighting were I'd gone wrong.
The key @JohanGriman appears to be to ensure your device is not on the latest Miui but the latest 12.5 version.
Is there any instructions on how to install Magisk on this? I've tried to usual ways (via apk and flashing .zip thru adb sideload) but it fails to repack the boot image. Will a manual patch of the boot image and reflash work?
Edit: I've been able to directly patch the PE recovery image (as used in the installation process) using the Magisk apk on my device. Can I now flash this patched image to the device?
I don't want to try it as other instructions I've found talk about a vbmeta image that needs to be flashed too, and I don't know if that's necesary.... and I don't want to trash my device again!
Just flash it but it will break safetynet. To fix safetynet enable Zygisk, add google play services to deny list and install shamiko.
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Just flash it but it will break safetynet. To fix safetynet enable Zygisk, add google play services to deny list and install shamiko.
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Thanks, that worked perfectly
I'm new here on this site and idk if I'm doing I correctly but I need help with it. I'm a noob to rooting and Twrp stuff. I have unlocked my bootloader and have tried to watch videos about rooting and read articles but I couldn't understand. That's why I am posting this thread. Could someone explain things to me in the most simple way and how can I avoid bootloops or stuff like that if I come across one. I'd appreciate it very much.
I think it is best to start with reading the "HowTo" guides
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I think it is best to start with reading the "HowTo" guides
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Alright I'll try it, thanks
Download Magisk Manager Latest Version 26.1 For Android 2023
Magisk Manager is an app which helps users to root their phone. With the help of Magisk you can run banking apps and also pass SafetyNet tests.
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Hello Sir, sorry to disturb you again. I have installed the adb, fastboot and fastbootd drivers. I need your help with something, should i continue with the latest version of Magisk? I have Redmi note 10 pro (sweet)
Because you are a starter, I advice to follow the guide exactly.
If you flash a lower version of Magisk, you always can update afterwards with Magisk manager
You haven't said what the reason is for root.
If you want to flash custom rom, you need Twrp or OrangeFox too
That is also done with ADB
In case of Magisk you patch the original boot.img
(that is why you need an original stock boot.img. Keep a copy for revert back)
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Because you are a starter, I advice to follow the guide exactly.
If you flash a lower version of Magisk, you always can update afterwards with Magisk manager
You haven't said what the reason is for root.
If you want to flash custom rom, you need Twrp or OrangeFox too
That is also done with ADB
In case of Magisk you patch the original boot.img
(that is why you need an original stock boot.img. Keep a copy for revert back)
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Im following the guide that you have given the link for. And by update do you mean I can install new updates of the phone (because I know after rooting you can't or won't receive updates) or do you mean magisk by it? Well I want to modify and tweak with my Phone appearance and install some modules. For now Im not going for custom roms. Since I just want to root my phone for now, could you please tell me what do you mean by original stock boot.img? Because I have downloaded and extracted the rom contents that i have in my phone (following the guide). I know I am asking too much, sorry
p.s. what would you like to suggest me to use the latest version of magisk or some old version?
I mean update of Magisk.
The older versions are working with the same modules till v23
From v24 Magisk has another base (zygisk) and you need other modules
So decide which modules you need for which Magisk version, before flashing
Inside the stock rom you find boot.img and recovery.img (these are replaced by magisk.img and twrp.img)
If something goes wrong you can flash these original images back with ADB and you have stock Miui without root again and can start again with clean sheets.
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I mean update of Magisk.
The older versions are working with the same modules till v23
From v24 Magisk has another base (zygisk) and you need other modules
So decide which modules you need for which Magisk version, before flashing
Inside the stock rom you find boot.img and recovery.img (these are replaced by magisk.img and twrp.img)
If something goes wrong you can flash these original images back with ADB and you have stock Miui without root again and can start again with clean sheets.
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Thank you alot. Its really helpful to me. Also I just checked that I do not have the recovery.img but the boot.img
Bilalbilly87 said:
Thank you alot. Its really helpful to me. Also I just checked that I do not have the recovery.img but the boot.img
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If you only flash Magisk you only need boot.img
I see now what you mean
Normally inside the stock fastboot rom you find all partition images, but you recognize only the boot.img
Boot.img is one of them, also recovery.img is one of about 13 partitions.
Be sure to double check the version. It must be exactly the same as what you have now on the phone.
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If you only flash Magisk you only need boot.img
I see now what you mean
Normally inside the stock fastboot rom you find all partition images, but you recognize only the boot.img
Boot.img is one of them, also recovery.img is one of about 13 partitions.
Be sure to double check the version. It must be exactly the same as what you have now on the phone.
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I have installed Twrp and Magisk As well. I was able to install some modules but with some modules I'm having this problem and I don't quite understand why. I downloaded it from GitHub like the zip file and after flashing.
Congrats with flashing Twrp and magisk
I understand you speak about Magisk modules?
As I said before, ckeck carefully for which Magisk version the module can be flashed
v.xx t/m v. 23 or v24 t/m 25.3 (zygisk)
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Congrats with flashing Twrp and magisk
I understand you speak about Magisk modules?
As I said before, ckeck carefully for which Magisk version the module can be flashed
v.xx t/m v. 23 or v24 t/m 25.3 (zygisk)
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Thank you for helping me. Actually i was having problem with flashing the modules, because the contents are in the zip file in a folder and they need to be outside of any folder meaning all those files need to be in the zip instead of being in a folder in the zip. I'm good to go as i checked and its installing now.
kon kkonsay modules use krra ha hmy bhi bta
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kon kkonsay modules use krra ha hmy bhi bta
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Laptapper, one thing is happening to my RN10P
I have Lineage Os
I have flashed your vantom kernel
Using magisk in it
Problem is my phone is heating after kernel install, i checked cpu clock speed
when i changed min* clock speed to 300 it always reset back to max
i.e. 2304Mhz min and @2304Mhz max.
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Laptapper, one thing is happening to my RN10P
I have Lineage Os
I have flashed your vantom kernel
Using magisk in it
Problem is my phone is heating after kernel install, i checked cpu clock speed
when i changed min* clock speed to 300 it always reset back to max
i.e. 2304Mhz min and @2304Mhz max.
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For me not.
Clean install? With format data yes?
Which kernel vantom latest?
If yes, try the lineage os original kernel again.
Sorry for late reply. Everything has been working okay with modules altho i didnt install alot of them but a few. So i guess there weren't enough modules which provided me any customization for Miui 13 because i had the wrong concept. Now i want to take it a step further, i want to flash a custom rom. I have looked and searched. Have decided to go for either Pixel Exp A12 or AncientOS A12 (It has alot of customizations). Now i want to ask you a few questions that i have in mind.
1) Should I flash Custom Rom through Twrp?
2) If so, do i need to flash that Dm verity file (because when I installed twrp in my stock rom which im still using rn, they told us to do that to avoid bootloop and to keep Twrp permanent so do i also need to do it with custom rom?
3) And if its safe to flash through Twrp, Could you please tell me how to (through twrp if its safe)?
4) Which Rom should i go for? Pixel or AncientOs
lineage Os
Laptapper said:
For me not.
Clean install? With format data yes?
Which kernel vantom latest?
If yes, try the lineage os original kernel again.
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yes the problem was with magisk module, thermal profile disabler. i removed it and everything is stable now