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No more unlocked bootloader for you...
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-bootloader-unlocking-869169/
Will be my last too, but more likely due to their update priorities. We pay flagship prices but all promises made at the keynote forgotten, sad.
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......, but more likely due to their update priorities. We pay flagship prices but all promises made at the keynote forgotten, sad.
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Beside Pixel and other Phones running stock Android who is doing better???? .....ok, Apple :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Samsung :highfive:
LG
HTC
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and from my persepective it would be hard to find any phone that performance and quality wise would come even close to the Mate's.....
...maybe Treble will provide some improvments but even this is quite doubtfull.
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Beside Pixel and other Phones running stock Android who is doing better???? .....ok, Apple :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Samsung :highfive:
LG
HTC
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and from my persepective it would be hard to find any phone that performance and quality wise would come even close to the Mate's.....
...maybe Treble will provide some improvments but even this is quite doubtfull.
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Just because nobody is doing it better does not make it ok.
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Just because nobody is doing it better does not make it ok.
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sure...but what would be the alternative...in case nobody is doing it better, you can stay with Huawei and enjoy the great phones....
i had mate 10 pro.They ****ed up something with the bootoader,there is at least 20 people who broke their device since a month ago while rebranding the phone to another region,all of a sudden from that week they closed bootloader unlocking page ? and now they say they never going to open,really i was happy with my phone but paying 1000$ to get a complete brick after no reason is real bull****.and its not solvable by the way.
I think they somehow made bootloader partition read only or something.and our devices cant be revived with any tool at the moment.im really mad for this nonsense.i even mailled them,write on reddit but no ones care untill their device is broken too
I have the non-pro Mate 10. It may very well be my last Huawei phone...but I will say this....it is, by far, the best phone available that ticks all the boxes for me right now.
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i had mate 10 pro.They ****ed up something with the bootoader,there is at least 20 people who broke their device since a month ago while rebranding the phone to another region,all of a sudden from that week they closed bootloader unlocking page ? and now they say they never going to open,really i was happy with my phone but paying 1000$ to get a complete brick after no reason is real bull****.and its not solvable by the way.
I think they somehow made bootloader partition read only or something.and our devices cant be revived with any tool at the moment.im really mad for this nonsense.i even mailled them,write on reddit but no ones care untill their device is broken too
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Well, you are not supposed to flash unapproved firmwares, so Huawei isn't responsible for that.
And complaining to them about that, would most likely do more damage than good.
When we unlock the bootloader and install stuff like that, we have to assume the risk and responsibility.
I know that in some cases, they replaced the device under warranty, but i doubt that those users told Huawei the whole story! ?
I will sell my Mate in few days.
mate 10 pro will be my only and last Huawei phone. ordered the u12+ and then going to sell the mate
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I have the non-pro Mate 10. It may very well be my last Huawei phone...but I will say this....it is, by far, the best phone available that ticks all the boxes for me right now.
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This. Exactly.
Well... Wrong... I owned the following devices : LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, HTC 10, Galaxy S7, Oneplus 3T, Galaxy S8 and now Mate 10 Pro. I can say that exept the camera this is by far the best phone yet. LG and Samsung are far behind with updates, HTC just simply sucks, OnePlus sucks on support and accesories (in East Europe at least). Battery life on this phone is just amazing, screen quality ok, call quality ok, build quality ok, updates better than Samsung or LG. In my opinion all phones are crap and all have bugs or problems.
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Well... Wrong... I owned the following devices : LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, HTC 10, Galaxy S7, Oneplus 3T, Galaxy S8 and now Mate 10 Pro. I can say that exept the camera this is by far the best phone yet. LG and Samsung are far behind with updates, HTC just simply sucks, OnePlus sucks on support and accesories (in East Europe at least). Battery life on this phone is just amazing, screen quality ok, call quality ok, build quality ok, updates better than Samsung or LG. In my opinion all phones are crap and all have bugs or problems.
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I agree 100%, everyone has ups and downs, however Mate 10 definitely made an impact as my daily driver, I used Sony, Samsung, and iPhone in the past and got frustrated with limitation in daily use --- battery and usability.
This is likely my first and last Huawei phone unless they change the way updates are delivered. Maybe Googles Android P Mandate will make Huawei change the way they deliver updates requiring monthly security updates.
As a daily driver it is a great phone. The support is the only thing keeping it down. Face Unlock took way too long to come out for a flagship phone. Lesser phones getting Higher Android versions are also concerning.
Nokia is showing their care very much about support on their phones. And they are on the top of my list for my next phone.
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sure...but what would be the alternative...in case nobody is doing it better, you can stay with Huawei and enjoy the great phones....
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This is likely my first and last Huawei phone unless they change the way updates are delivered. Maybe Googles Android P Mandate will make Huawei change the way they deliver updates requiring monthly security updates.
As a daily driver it is a great phone. The support is the only thing keeping it down. Face Unlock took way too long to come out for a flagship phone. Lesser phones getting Higher Android versions are also concerning.
Nokia is showing their care very much about support on their phones. And they are on the top of my list for my next phone.
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Hmm my Mate 9 got updated to Oreo long (months) before the S7 , S8 and LG G6
I kept my mate 9 when I got my mate 10... And both are on the April security updates. Both supposedly support treble
I also have a xiaomi mi mix 2 on the April update
So on the second day in June..... What non Google pixel phone are you going to switch to so that you can get more timely updates?
Let me know so that I can switch as well
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I agree 100%, everyone has ups and downs, however Mate 10 definitely made an impact as my daily driver, I used Sony, Samsung, and iPhone in the past and got frustrated with limitation in daily use --- battery and usability.
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You two are against the grain of this board
I've even seen a poster saying that his S5 took far better pictures than the mate 10
I've been on xda since I first flashed my Samsung omnia in 2008... And this mate 10 board is truly something different to me
I'm happy with my Mate 10 (non pro)... The ai stabilization night shot is already on FF for the Chinese mate 10... So hopefully we get it in a month or two
Btw
I have a C605 mate 10
And a C636 mate 9
Never had any issues getting updates
And now it seems that you get access the update through the stock updater as soon as it's approved
My only real complaints are that:
Even at beauty = 0.. there's still something going on... However it's not a deal breaker
I wish all brands used the OnePlus method of delivering updates... So that a free VPN would be all you need to trigger the update
If Huawei won't realise the official blobs.. then I can do without the bootloader unlock for now
Devs are mostly on snapdragon devices
I actually bought the mi mix 2 so that I could install custom ROMs (cheapest snapdragon 835 I could find).... But the phone is sooooo smooth... That I just installed Nova launcher and I have been using it like that
Smoothest Android device that I've ever used
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Is this a joke? This subforum is just laughable, I usually lurk here for anything new and interesting, instead however I see most of the time is someone complaining about the phone not getting timely updates, "ugh, this is my last Huawei phone" "I hate how slow these updates are rolling out compare to others" "Where is my update, and why does this _____ region have this update but I dont?"
THIS is all I see here being posted whether its a new post or someone making comments on an already existing post. What has this turned into? "Lets complain about Huawei and crappy their support is subforum"?
Like the dude above me, I have been here since 2008 and this is by far probably on par with the Mate 9 subforum here on XDA the worst. No offense but damn!
You want updates in a timely manner? Get a Pixel
You want extensive ROM/Kernel developement with big support? Get a Snapdragon phone.
Simple as that, yeah sucks Huawei is going to shut down its bootloader unlocking service but thats reality and it might be for the better anyways. Yes this is XDA risk are taken but...(Think from Huawei's stand point)
Honestly I could CARE LESS about it. These phones were excellent from the start, I have no complaints whatsoever. Huawei out did themselves in terms of delivering a phone for performance and battery out of the box both 10s and the 9.
I see this more as a daily driver phone, not a phone a flash junkie can have fun with. People making threats saying "Oh im switching out for this _____ phone because of the amount of support and updates it gets" or "I regret getting this phone, support and updates are horrible" Um ok? Cool man as if that'll make a change anywhere, my thing is this, why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
Face unlock update? Dont care about it as much, if I receive it cool.
Not trying to offend everyone here, only those that seem to be impatient and think that we should be getting the latest updates in such quick time frame. Yeah yeah sure you paid premium prices and you expect the world? Not every company is the same, should have done your research if youre really after custom ROM development
Even SD device ain't a guarantee that you'll have community room support, just look at Sony. It is what it is. I bought this device cuz of battery and big amoled screen(un notched) and Huawei delivered. Yeah it got it's flaws but every phone has. As long they don't override pros it's a good purchase....and I'll sure be looking into Mate 20 if they keep the same philosophy as with predecessors.
Limited ROMS on this device and they wanted to lock the bootloader for good. Lol, I'm about to do a clean swap for Oneplus5t, think it will be worth it?
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Is this a joke? This subforum is just laughable, I usually lurk here for anything new and interesting, instead however I see most of the time is someone complaining about the phone not getting timely updates, "ugh, this is my last Huawei phone" "I hate how slow these updates are rolling out compare to others" "Where is my update, and why does this _____ region have this update but I dont?"
THIS is all I see here being posted whether its a new post or someone making comments on an already existing post. What has this turned into? "Lets complain about Huawei and crappy their support is subforum"?
Like the dude above me, I have been here since 2008 and this is by far probably on par with the Mate 9 subforum here on XDA the worst. No offense but damn!
You want updates in a timely manner? Get a Pixel
You want extensive ROM/Kernel developement with big support? Get a Snapdragon phone.
Simple as that, yeah sucks Huawei is going to shut down its bootloader unlocking service but thats reality and it might be for the better anyways. Yes this is XDA risk are taken but...(Think from Huawei's stand point)
Honestly I could CARE LESS about it. These phones were excellent from the start, I have no complaints whatsoever. Huawei out did themselves in terms of delivering a phone for performance and battery out of the box both 10s and the 9.
I see this more as a daily driver phone, not a phone a flash junkie can have fun with. People making threats saying "Oh im switching out for this _____ phone because of the amount of support and updates it gets" or "I regret getting this phone, support and updates are horrible" Um ok? Cool man as if that'll make a change anywhere, my thing is this, why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
Face unlock update? Dont care about it as much, if I receive it cool.
Not trying to offend everyone here, only those that seem to be impatient and think that we should be getting the latest updates in such quick time frame. Yeah yeah sure you paid premium prices and you expect the world? Not every company is the same, should have done your research if youre really after custom ROM development
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So why this device on here ? on XDA forum. There are lots of devices who doesnt have forum thread, so lets put out Mate 10 PRO, if nobody need updates or custom roms or ......
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It's trash! I bought a Note 4, years ago and I don't use it, because CyanogenMod was not ready. Samsung is today much better but still trash.
If somebody ask me now "yo, get Lineage OS but lose warranty?" I will instant flash Lineage OS, because EMUI is just a copy of the old MIUI, with bug's and ugly interface.
So, in future no more Huawei, just Xiaomi, Android One (Nokia) and OnePlus. Pixel never, because no dual SIM.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alph abet-exclusive-idUSKCN1SP0NB
They are not "banning them", they are just stopping doing business with them until the US government comes out of their drug-induced state, and reverse course on their recent blacklisting.
This is most likely just Google being forced by the government, which is using this blacklisting as a mean to strong-arm China in their recent trade discussions.
What truly pisses me off is how these schoolyard politics is affecting us non-American.
Time for the world to migrate to another open OS for phone and PC. One country cannot hold the world consumers at ransom this way.
And Google silently complying to US govt. demand while ditching millions of worldwide consumers says a lot.
Didn't this happen to ZTE?
I heard we will still have access to the play store but I assume we won't get future android updates or android 10 when it's out? My p30 Pro is going back and swapping for S10 I think.
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I heard we will still have access to the play store but I assume we won't get future android updates or android 10 when it's out? My p30 Pro is going back and swapping for S10 I think.
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I have the same problem right now. Just bought the P30 Pro a few days ago because Huawei promised to bring out Android 10 short time after Googles release. Now it's just guessing if the update will come out or not. If not this devices is already near it's EOL since Huawei doesn't provide boot loader unlock codes...
I hope Google will sort this out and finds a way to still give Huawei access to Android 10, or Huawei must start giving out boot loader unlock codes again so the community can provide future android updates for the devices.
Huawei central
hongmeng is huaweis first ever self developed operating system Huawei
https://www.******************/hongmeng-is-huaweis-first-ever-self-developed-operating-system/amp/
Huawei can still implement future versions of android through the AOSP, as stated in most of the articles discussing the topic. They will not provide access to Google Play services such as the Play Store and 'baked in' apps such as Gmail and Chrome.
I can't foresee the availability of services being affected to an already-approved device, however I don't think it will be positive for a Mate 30 Pro if it is in the works. Likewise I am unsure about whether they would want to release Android 10 if it didn't contain the play services, but as said I think certification is done per-device, not per OS revision.
Update: While future Huawei smartphone plans are in doubt following the restrictions, Google has promised to continue offering security and app updates through its Play Store for existing handsets.
Yeah, but the monthly device patches is an other thing. And what about Android Q? If this damn device could be boot loader unlocked it would be a god sent now.
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I heard we will still have access to the play store but I assume we won't get future android updates or android 10 when it's out? My p30 Pro is going back and swapping for S10 I think.
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wonder how this will affect those who have taken out contracts??
not a very good smart phone if stuff dont work on it (maps,youtube,gmail,chrome)
They seem to all be forgetting something. https://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-leaks-timeline-2016-9
I mean, must be me, but I'd much rather own and use (and root) a Huawei phone than a Google one.
Anyone that wants to sell me their P30 Pro Black, please message me. I'll pay you €300 for it.
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wonder how this will affect those who have taken out contracts??
not a very good smart phone if stuff dont work on it (maps,youtube,gmail,chrome)
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you know the apks will be out there and available to download and install right onto your device
I'm neither Chinese or American or living in either of these countries - I just want to use my P30 Pro in peace like everybody else.
Why does everything have to be political these days. Nobody wins. I still believe it's because the US is jealous that Apple can't be #1 so they're doing everything they can. Look at OnePlus, Xiaomi and Vivo... they're Chinese companies too.
I think the whole thing is just....ridiculous....I'm in the US and drool over the p30 pro literally almost every day. I really wish the government would just stop with the non-sense and B$. Its silly and does nothing but hurt the companies and end users. This combined with the tariffs is just stupid in my opinion.
Well at this point the statement regarding the bootloader unlock:
"the unlock code application service has ended, as of July 25th 2018, to ensure user experience and safety"
prevents user experience and safety... and this is the perfect time to get Huawei to give us the unlock codes...
just continue the discussion here alot of useful infos
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p30-pro/how-to/future-huawei-t3931677
xnostra said:
just continue the discussion here alot of useful infos
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p30-pro/how-to/future-huawei-t3931677
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This is not leading anywhere for me
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you know the apks will be out there and available to download and install right onto your device
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Not that easy...
Users will not be able to just side-load APKs for these services because Google prohibits CTS-unverified devices from running its apps. Besides Google apps, all the others that use Google’s APIs, to facilitate log-in, for instance, will also be blocked on smartphones by Huawei and sub-brand Honor.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-revoke-huawei-android-ban-blacklist/
We all know it sucked when Huawei stopped offering their bootloader unlocks a while back, but now with the US ban and their plans of releasing a OS of their own do you guys think there's a chance they'll start offering unlocking bootloaders to their older products as a incentive to have them install their new one?
If not then my P20 Pro is gonna end up being a paperweight fairly shortly I fear...
The new os might come to p20 pro too.
But hey, i think they will since people will return their phones thus loosing profit. Soooo
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The new os might come to p20 pro too.
But hey, i think they will since people will return their phones thus loosing profit. Soooo
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Considering the range of their products and how many are in circulation I suppose it would make sense to offer the option atleast
I don't think huawei will worry about customers who have already paid for their handsets.
Question is how many of you would consider buying another huawei device. Speaking for myself...I wouldn't. Possibility to unlock bootloader wouldn't make much difference when we're out of regular android updates.
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I don't think huawei will worry about customers who have already paid for their handsets.
Question is how many of you would consider buying another huawei device. Speaking for myself...I wouldn't. Possibility to unlock bootloader wouldn't make much difference when we're out of regular android updates.
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If they are making their own OS variant with their own marketplace then having as many users migrate over to it as possible is beneficial to their spying services
A new OS is the least of Huawei's problems. UK's ARM has cut ties with them now. No ARM = no Kirin chipset. US trade war is kind of getting out of control. Spying, as most people are lead to believe has yet to be proven in the 7 years it first came up. However, shady business practice is a different thing.
Let's just wait and see, this is a political and commercial issue, negociations will happen shortly, I am not worried, service will resume.
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Let's just wait and see, this is a political and commercial issue, negociations will happen shortly, I am not worried, service will resume.
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I hope they ditch Android for their os. It would be much better imo, since it will also support android apps so what is the reason to keep android if your os will be much better?
With prices on Huawei and Honor phones taking a beating, I was hoping to pick up a cheap one, unlock its bootloader and install Lineage or other Android distro.
Sadly, looks like H have blocked the opportunity
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With prices on Huawei and Honor phones taking a beating, I was hoping to pick up a cheap one, unlock its bootloader and install Lineage or other Android distro.
Sadly, looks like H have blocked the opportunity
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Sadly yes, if they kept on with their previous policy on that matter, it would be easier to maintain. I had the chance to have had an unlocked unit on lineage which was working great, and was faster. I lost it and got a new one, but locked without any hope to get it unlocked. But this phone ages well anyways, and one can uninstall or disable many many apps, which makes the phone more responsive. Also, it will unfold well, is just an unfortunate trade move but it will get well.
Tbh EMUI is very optimised for the cpu.
If huawei's new os had the deep intergration style of IOS, you can say goodbye to custom roms.
I mean EMUI as rn is very fluid and fast and i see no reason to change roms(even tho they locked the bootloader)
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Tbh EMUI is very optimised for the cpu.
If huawei's new os had the deep intergration style of IOS, you can say goodbye to custom roms.
I mean EMUI as rn is very fluid and fast and i see no reason to change roms(even tho they locked the bootloader)
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You've never seen an OnePlus fluidity . Got an 3t at a bargain price. 4 years old and is more fluid than p20 pro .
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You've never seen an OnePlus fluidity . Got an 3t at a bargain price. 4 years old and is more fluid than p20 pro .
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Sacrifice features over fluidity, not really my cup of tea. But still, i am waiting for what Huawei will come up with.
Personally I think there is far too much money involved in all this for Huawei to just go under.
The biggest issue is the CPU, every Android device is based on arm and as arm have pulled their contracts with Huawei, Huawei for the moment at least are on borrowed time, they'll have a stock pike but due to the nature of arm, they can't even make their own chip as it'll use arms architecture and that can't happen as arm will sue, problem with that is, even if they did make a chip, they'd have to get developers to develop for it and as it stands everyone makes for arm. Lol it's impossible, very clever on the person who is pulling the strings part.
That being said, it won't last, they'll negotiate and it'll be resolved, as it was with ZTE from sanctions in Iran against the US.
The long and short of it is just money, the US wants to tax that Huawei ass a little bit, as well as show them who's boss.
Then everyone will be happy.
As for the bootloader, I would say a resounding no, looking at Huawei, they've gone totally Apple now, going for their own OS too (they were anyway)
Plus the Chinese variant didn't have the play store to begin with so they're half way there.
I can't see them ever offering bootloader keys ever again, which is fine for them, but the way they went about it was abysmal.
The phones they used to make were sub standard and weak with lots of issues and most techies avoided them like the plague then they teamed with XDA and it's users, got some great press and buzz from XDA users, not to mention our influence and started banging out some decent phones.
Then they pulled the rug out and essentially closed their doors on any kind of loyalty there was to the true modders, developers and enthusiasts of Android, shocking.
The will almost certainly not go bust, but for what they've done and how they've held themselves, to me and many other users on here who like to root and tinker, they may as well not exist any more..
Shame as they we going in a good direction.
Ah well. One plus time.
Rant over.....
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You've never seen an OnePlus fluidity . Got an 3t at a bargain price. 4 years old and is more fluid than p20 pro .
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I agree Vs emui, but I'm running AOSIP on the p20 pro and it's ridiculously smooth, would still prefer a OnePlus tho.
Getting the 7pro very soon.
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Sacrifice features over fluidity, not really my cup of tea. But still, i am waiting for what Huawei will come up with.
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Well, what features exactly ?
Decision of giving bootloader unlock codes again will lead to that consequences:
-part of their userbase will turn to open-source OSes
-due to their beign as second top manufacturer that part will be large in numbers
-that will hit Google's positions in userbase of standard Android (system and services).
That looks like win-win situation for Huawei, except they want to move that switching userbase to themselves and their new OS.
So I doubt Huawei will decide to make world better. It's just business.
djama29 said:
hi, bootloader code service start work today, i can get code, +375257585263 Viber WhatsApp
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Yeeeeeeeahhhhh, why not on xda private? And will it be free?
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Yeeeeeeeahhhhh, why not on xda private? And will it be free?
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I wrote to him on whatsapp .... for $45
pablo103 said:
I wrote to him on whatsapp .... for $45
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Does it come with a paper that says You got scammed?
Yeah i would not trust any bootloader unlock methods that require cash.
hey...
how i can install emui 10 without beta app !!
i can see any new update for emui 10 now...its bad company..
P20 is scheduled to receive EMUI 10 in March 2020.
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its bad company...
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You are welcome to sell your phone and switch to another brand that rolls our updates faster. Also, let us all know when you find one.
Iphones are good for long software updates. Huawei has a lot of issues with maintaining their new HMS since Trump went full child mode because apparently Huawei spies, even tho a lot of american tech (excluding Apple, i guess) spy on us since the dawn of time.
Emui 10 got rolled out in China for p20 pro, not sure if it is beta or not.
I will be switching (possibly) to an Iphone xs max, because i grew tired of software update issues and all. I really hope i don't get any hate because i want to switch to an apple product. Android is great too, but Google likes to ruin in each update
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P20 is scheduled to receive EMUI 10 in March 2020.
You are welcome to sell your phone and switch to another brand that rolls our updates faster. Also, let us all know when you find one.
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in march 2020 ? lol i will update to beta with unlock bootloder ^_^
You are welocme for your opinion and i will switch to oneplus 7 pro next week :highfive:
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in march 2020 ? lol i will update to beta with unlock bootloder ^_^
You are welocme for your opinion and i will switch to oneplus 7 pro next week :highfive:
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Beta completely locks the bootloader, some people on the forums claimed that, as well as being a permanent lock
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Beta completely locks the bootloader, some people on the forums claimed that, as well as being a permanent lock
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Well what can we do ??
maahmd said:
Well what can we do ??
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Switch to OP7Pro as u mentioned?
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Well what can we do ??
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Simple. If you care about bootloader, go to oneplus or any other brand that allows custom roms. If not, stick to Huawei or go to Apple since it's the only brand who respects old devices(reason the price costs a kidney and a half) . Xiaomi counts too but they update their MIUI, not the android version, as well as oneplus too but uhh, not so sure about them yet.
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Huawei isn't really such a bad company. It's only that they are too lazy to provide after sales support for any sort of device. I get it, Trump issues, Google issues, HMS issues. They should roll out Harmony OS as a beta software from devices that have Kirin 970 and up and let everybody develop apps and all, as well as test the software and allow people to report any sort of bugs. This way, the production of it will be a faster way to finish and polish Harmony OS. Their ego with "We are ready to replace you, Google" just make things worst, to the point where Trump can add a law to restrict all Chinese brands (yes, including Xiaomi and maybe Oneplus) from using Android all together, then everybody would be stuck on Android Q (or lower).
Either way, until Huawei fixes their issues and learns how to coop with the xda community and customers (now they need developers with HMS to develop apps, are we Huawei?), i will stick to Apple's Iphones, because even a 5 years old iphone still gets the latest software ( reason being the services, ofc). This is a lesson to be learned, Huawei. I am not the type of person who cares about bootloader and custom roms, but still, either coop with the community or watch your brand slowly die.
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Switch to OP7Pro as u mentioned?
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no i will take the oneplus 7 pro and stay with p20 pro like a Secondary device if necessary ^_^
So is it possible to get get the unlock code to a CLT-L29 in 2020?
I was backing up pictures with USB, and cable was loose and fell off, and for some reason that made my P20 remove all media on my phone.
Due to limitations in EMUI 9 i cant use any deepscan, but might work on EMUI 8, but my phone wont show the allow PC remote hisuite app window to appear, so its a bust.
Next i wanna try ROOT, but need unlock code to root.
Has anyone any way of getting this code? that know it works? dont feel like spending 50$ on a fake page/service.
// Fredrik
frodrick79 said:
So is it possible to get get the unlock code to a CLT-L29 in 2020?
I was backing up pictures with USB, and cable was loose and fell off, and for some reason that made my P20 remove all media on my phone.
Due to limitations in EMUI 9 i cant use any deepscan, but might work on EMUI 8, but my phone wont show the allow PC remote hisuite app window to appear, so its a bust.
Next i wanna try ROOT, but need unlock code to root.
Has anyone any way of getting this code? that know it works? dont feel like spending 50$ on a fake page/service.
// Fredrik
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Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
dladz said:
Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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You'll never walk alone!
dladz said:
Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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Neither would i too. Tired of all the waiting and issues that i had with huawei, to the point where i will be switching to Iphone.
I will say it again for huawei : Great hardware, **** software.
The Restless Soul said:
Neither would i too. Tired of all the waiting and issues that i had with huawei, to the point where i will be switching to Iphone.
I will say it again for huawei : Great hardware, **** software.
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GPU is crap too, but I agree for the most part.
Never again
OnePlus mate, get the 8, I wouldn't buy apple personally.
dladz said:
GPU is crap too, but I agree for the most part.
Never again
OnePlus mate, get the 8, I wouldn't buy apple personally.
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Well, i am done with Android in general. Google's been removing features each update and honestly, the **** optimization that Android has regarding multitasking is so bad....how could Apple use 4gb of ram to keep so many apps easily?
Oneplus, yeah, they have their opimizations here and there, but i don't want to go set up the app background limit or some other stuff just to get it fictional (according to dontkillmyapp.com)
Either way, i will see what will happen in the future. If oneplus 8 comes with true water resistance and wireless charging, then sure as hell i might switch to it. If not, then i am going for Apple (i'd rather pay a kidney and know i got a functional device that will have 5+ years of updates)
Still it's sad that Huawei doesn't co-op with the xda community by letting us test harmony OS, develop apps and report bugs, but oh well...
I am also very interested in what op 8 brings but i would be slightly more skeptical. Well sure, if dev support and performance are the only factors go get it. Keep in mind that Oneplus (7 serie) is also known for terrible ram management. Another thing worth to consider is camera. Compared to huawei, samsung, pixel or iPhone it is just ok. If you have time please read op 7t pro review on xda. It's long but worth to read.
Btw. You're totally right about root and development today. It's not that fun anymore, unlocking bl often breaks functionality of crucial apps (like paying with phone) and magisk hide doesn't help it all.
(besides even op 7t pro doesn't have fully working twrp yet).
As for the iPhone. Price is still scary and storage/battery capacity is a joke. Only iphone 11 pro max gets decent size battery... and beats android handsets on this field About ios it's all about t personal preferences.
There is method called BLK, it costs about 30 dollars to get BLK key and two guys who know how to do it will help you with getting bootloader code for free. You can contact them at huaweihax on telegram
forever_lol said:
I am also very interested in what op 8 brings but i would be slightly more skeptical. Well sure, if dev support and performance are the only factors go get it. Keep in mind that Oneplus (7 serie) is also known for terrible ram management. Another thing worth to consider is camera. Compared to huawei, samsung, pixel or iPhone it is just ok. If you have time please read op 7t pro review on xda. It's long but worth to read.
Btw. You're totally right about root and development today. It's not that fun anymore, unlocking bl often breaks functionality of crucial apps (like paying with phone) and magisk hide doesn't help it all.
(besides even op 7t pro doesn't have fully working twrp yet).
As for the iPhone. Price is still scary and storage/battery capacity is a joke. Only iphone 11 pro max gets decent size battery... and beats android handsets on this field About ios it's all about t personal preferences.
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I mean, you get what you pay for. I am not an apple fanboy since i never got a chance to fully test an iphone or any apple product, but honestly, after testing an iphone 11 pro in a store (as well as iphone 11 which, for an hd screen, it looks pretty good), i'd take the risk with the prices just for a phone that will hold me very well for more than 5 years. Storage wise, i always do cleanup on my phone and, on my p20 pro, i barely used the 128gb storage (sits somewhere under 32gb). About battery, for a 3000mah battery, it holds longer than my p20 pro, which is amazing! Yeah, the max pro is better but it is too big and large to even fit in my pocket. But either way, i will see what iphone i should get.
I wish ANDROID OEM's would keep up with apple and bring up at least 5 years of OS updates, especially when they have their own services.
And thank you for agreeing with me regarding my opinion about bootloader unlocking. It is pretty much useless and Google may just disable the adb command in the near future. Why sacrifice 80% of the phone's features for a custom rom?
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There is method called BLK, it costs about 30 dollars to get BLK key and two guys who know how to do it will help you with getting bootloader code for free. You can contact them at huaweihax on telegram
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..... Interesting, has anyone on these forums had any success with this method?
(other than the thread by @XTutorials https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/finnaly-t3972825 - which i noted with interest but nothing much seemed to come of it)
Could really do with hearing some success stories - I don't mind sabotaging the phone by getting the cover off and losing water-resistance.... but I'd want to be reasonably sure it was going to work :laugh:
What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
purple patch said:
What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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Pretty much "xdatards" complaining at every huawei post that they no longer provide bootloader unlocking. I mean, samsung and other big oem still don't allow it or it does but breaks the entire software and they barely have any custom roms (not talking about xiaomi or oneplus)
Either way, i won't be surprised if Google removes the bootloader unlock command from adb in the next big android update.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking ......
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Personally, I'm not interested in any phone restricted to EMUI - whilst it's not a terrible iteration of Android it's still too restrictive by half (e.g. the low maximum headphone volume really pee'd me off!)
I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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Personally, I'm not interested in any phone restricted to EMUI - whilst it's not a terrible iteration of Android it's still too restrictive by half (e.g. the low maximum headphone volume really pee'd me off!)
I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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They already blocked the bootloader unlocking thing in emui 10, just like how every android oem will do in their next major update.
I start to think that Apple is no longer the **** company now when it comes to mobile market, it's the android oem. Let's be fair : you pay 1k for a phone that becomes irrelevant in 2 years, becomes slowers because of those so called "security updates", no custom rom support (even though custom roms are pretty much dead at this point, barely any builds coming up), and other software related issues.
What the hell is innovation if software is the main point of a product? Those so called "Isheeps" are so right with android's terrible update platform and optimization. 12gb of ram for what? Just for specs to flex with.
Everybody should switch to Iphones at this point.
Huawei tried to kill apple but honestly, with their broken promises, i start to think that maybe the android ban is a good reason for Huawei to start respecting customers and coop with them. After all, they want to be on top...
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Well, i am done with Android in general. Google's been removing features each update and honestly, the **** optimization that Android has regarding multitasking is so bad....how could Apple use 4gb of ram to keep so many apps easily?
Oneplus, yeah, they have their opimizations here and there, but i don't want to go set up the app background limit or some other stuff just to get it fictional (according to dontkillmyapp.com)
Either way, i will see what will happen in the future. If oneplus 8 comes with true water resistance and wireless charging, then sure as hell i might switch to it. If not, then i am going for Apple (i'd rather pay a kidney and know i got a functional device that will have 5+ years of updates)
Still it's sad that Huawei doesn't co-op with the xda community by letting us test harmony OS, develop apps and report bugs, but oh well...
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Screw Huawei, they deserve it.
As for Apple, it's exactly the same with Mac OS Vs windows, windows has to work on a plethora of hardware combinations, as does android, osx and iOS have very very very limited hardware combinations, bare in mind how much android has caught up, it's not noticeable any longer, in fact a lot of phones have surpassed apple in so many ways. Oneplus and Pixels namely.
I've lived with Apple once, that was enough
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They already blocked the bootloader unlocking thing in emui 10, just like how every android oem will do in their next major update.
I start to think that Apple is no longer the **** company now when it comes to mobile market, it's the android oem. Let's be fair : you pay 1k for a phone that becomes irrelevant in 2 years, becomes slowers because of those so called "security updates", no custom rom support (even though custom roms are pretty much dead at this point, barely any builds coming up), and other software related issues.
What the hell is innovation if software is the main point of a product? Those so called "Isheeps" are so right with android's terrible update platform and optimization. 12gb of ram for what? Just for specs to flex with.
Everybody should switch to Iphones at this point.
Huawei tried to kill apple but honestly, with their broken promises, i start to think that maybe the android ban is a good reason for Huawei to start respecting customers and coop with them. After all, they want to be on top...
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Where are you getting this from?? Samsung, OnePlus, Google, lg, have all kept the door open for bootloader unlocking or did I miss something?
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I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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Lol about the updates, for many it's the potential prospect of having anything other than EMUI and or any limitations being lifted and or the poor optimizations becoming better than the trash that we've had to get used to.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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Titanium.
AOSIP ROM
True ad blocking
Xposed
Magisk mods
Snapchat mods
Ability to remove zram (massive boost in gaming and device speed)
Root optimizations
Root apps
Kernels
TWRP mods
True dark mode (something I've been using for several years not this awful crap they're calling a feature nowadays)
I could be here all day long.
Removing the shackles, gives you freedom, it's your choice what you do with it.
This is the essence of android, which is why people are annoyed at Huawei primarily amongst other awful decisions.
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Where are you getting this from?? Samsung, OnePlus, Google, lg, have all kept the door open for bootloader unlocking or did I miss something?
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Possibility to unlock bl is limited to regional releases in case of LG or Samsung. Lastly i check there was no way to unlock bl on lg g8 (flagship 2019). LG update policy is the most stupid ive ever experienced. Regarding galaxy s serie - there are still regional variants (eg american carrier branded) where unlocking bl is not available.
As for the perks you mentioned... I am afraid not of them are available / fully working today. I am not a gamer so only adblock is sth really useful to me, but it's not a deal breaker.
Couple of years ago root meant sth. Gave you freedom and didn't bring any negative consequences. It's no longer the case. I think root scene will be dead within couple of years.
It's a shame that htc is dead. Their flagships were equipped with top notch hw and devs support was among the best on xda.
Unlock bootloader on samsung : Knox ****s the entire phone up
Unlock bootloader on lg : impossible on some phone variants
What i was talking about is that all companies like to copy eachother, no matter how small or big it is. Take a note with the disappearance of the headphone jack : Apple did it first and then everybody did it too. Huawei got the in display fingerprint scanner and reverse wireless charging : Samsung copies it.
Now with emui 10, Google can as well block the unlock command because then companies will copy this "feature".
Actually, since the iphone 11 pro release, Apple caught up with the competition of flagship devices.
I understand you regarding oneplus being a good comapany that allows bootloader unlocking. But the thing is : you unlock it you loose some important daily driver features like banking apps (which i use). Oneplus, by the looks of it, did it so well with the speed and optimization, however i'm not sure how well they did it with ram management. Either way, when it comes to overall support and less headaches, Apple does it better. "it just works!"
Still, let's see what 2020 brings up. Huawei might redeem themselves this time. If not, then say goodbye because i don't give more chances.
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Possibility to unlock bl is limited to regional releases in case of LG or Samsung. Lastly i check there was no way to unlock bl on lg g8 (flagship 2019). LG update policy is the most stupid ive ever experienced.
As for the perks you mentioned... I am afraid not of them are available / fully working today. I am not a gamer so only adblock is sth really useful to me, but it's not a deal breaker.
Couple of years ago root meant sth. Gave you freedom and didn't bring any negative consequences. It's no longer the case. I think root scene will be dead within couple of years.
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Unfortunately, the root community is pretty much dying since summer 2019 (imo). Most rooting apps can be used with adb (like appops and shizuku). Either way, like i said, i won't be surprised if Google blocks unlocking in the adb command.
Also, Huawei can root their phones using service mode, but nobody has access to their service software, yet.
I think we will disagree on this. I cannot remember everything I use root for, but things do pop up from time to time.
It's just easier with root.
Android will always have root and if not then it's the end of android, i really wouldn't bother anymore.
What I mentioned still works btw, and yes you do trust the efuse chip on some devices, but so what, it's worth it.
Losing a banking app? You use it yes but that's you lol, I would trade that off for root.
Apple is still a closed eco system and always will be I honestly cannot see android ever being that way, if it is then bye bye android.
This is my opinion and it's staying that way lads, sorry but that's me.
dladz said:
I think we will disagree on this. I cannot remember everything I use root for, but things do pop up from time to time.
It's just easier with root.
Android will always have root and if not then it's the end of android, i really wouldn't bother anymore.
What I mentioned still works btw, and yes you do trust the efuse chip on some devices, but so what, it's worth it.
Losing a banking app? You use it yes but that's you lol, I would trade that off for root.
Apple is still a closed eco system and always will be I honestly cannot see android ever being that way, if it is then bye bye android.
This is my opinion and it's staying that way lads, sorry but that's me.
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If Google completely killed rooting, ppl will still buy them. XDA rooting is a niche market now days. Rooting, custom ROMs etc was fun while it lasted. I still love android eco system, way superior to iDevices. iPhones can be jailbroken too, not as closed as you might think.
purple patch said:
If Google completely killed rooting, ppl will still buy them. XDA rooting is a niche market now days. Rooting, custom ROMs etc was fun while it lasted. I still love android eco system, way superior to iDevices. iPhones can be jailbroken too, not as closed as you might think.
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Quite a defeatist attitude of you. ask me, jailbreak didn't work on the latest OS, it's cat and mouse, not the same thing as root, not the same OS, your comparing oranges and apples.
Google won't do that, not being naive either, time will tell. I didn't think unlocked multipliers on CPUs would still be around today, yet here we are with a dedicated line for both AMD and Intel, GPU had now followed suit as had RAM.
Google isn't dead, they're just getting started, closing off a massive part of what made them famous in the first place isn't something they're going to embrace, that's the likes of Huaweis job.
Time will tell, right now it's open and there's nothing to suggest otherwise, besides the backlash should it happen.
If it did happen I would have no hesitation to buy apple, at that point android would have lost their ace up their sleeve, because I'm a small minority who thinks that doesnt mean I'm wrong, not wanting to follow the masses is a good thing, and going by Google's hiring techniques they'd agree.