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This camera has some kind of zoom, right? Optical or digital? Can someone explain how to zoom in the default camera app? I can't find the buttons or settings or anything... TIA!
there is no way it can be optical, even a photo amateur will know that.
yes there is digital zoom feature included
right. so how do i zoom?
Use the volume buttons.
I never would have guessed that. Thank-you!
But digital zoom is useless..
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But digital zoom is useless..
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You don't have to tell me that. Thankfully I don't rely on my camera for high quality images.
ohh you'll be surprised with our build in camera
it has auto focus, shaky hands control (IS), and lots and lots of other features
and if that is not enough, you can also use 3rd party professional photo camera software, results are even more amazing.
there as a side by side comparison in a topic forum
but i forgot the tittle
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ohh you'll be surprised with our build in camera
it has auto focus, shaky hands control (IS), and lots and lots of other features
and if that is not enough, you can also use 3rd party professional photo camera software, results are even more amazing.
there as a side by side comparison in a topic forum
but i forgot the tittle
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I'm actually a hobby photographer. The cell phone cam does indeed have many great features... but such a small sensor in a phone + plastic optics will never be on-par with a real camera, even one with less megapixels.
yup for real photos i use my Cannon (model #) IS... damn having a mental lapse, can't remember a lot of anything
EDIT: So, I did some more testing and the fault seems to be with the focus of the camera. Initially when you open the camera app it auto focuses and this then leaves me with an out of focus picture and touch to focus never actually changes anything. I tested Camera FV-5 and this app has an option to disable auto focus, allowing me to take a picture without the camera ever focusing, this takes a perfect picture but if I touch to focus it goes out of focus just like the stock camera.
Obviously it is faulty as it no longer makes that click when you open the camera app, well it does, but only like once every dozen times the camera is opened (still out of focus btw) ... Macro shots work perfectly, focus is spot on but anything at a distance of about more than a foot or two away just seems to blur.
Below are a few more shots that highlight the error:
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It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike
sp5it said:
It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
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Thanks for the reply .. So it's not faulty then? Just a big negative of having so few pixels, no matter how much light they let in?
IMO it is hardware problem.
Mike
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Has anybody else had problems with blurry shots when not taking a picture of something close? I recently went to the coast for the day and decided to take some pictures from the cliffs and on the beach, all of which were just scenic pictures at distance (nothing close up or in particular that could/wanted to focus on) but they all came out blurry. I don't seem to have any issues when taking pictures of close up objects or when there's something in particular to focus on but anything else is just pathetic.
I compared them to my Sony digital camera from about 4 years ago the pictures were spot on compared to the One ... See a couple of examples below. I tried focusing on various parts aswell but still the pictures are terrible ... Does this sound like a fault with the camea or focusing part in particular, or is it just that the One takes terrible pictures when not close up?
Thanks for any input. (The ones in focus are from my digital camera and everything blurry is from the One)
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I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!
gustav30 said:
I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!
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Lol, I don't have the caffeine issue but with regards to tests, I have done lotssssssssssss lol. Pictures I've taken close up, especially ones where I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.
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I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.
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Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike
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Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
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I'm 99% sure it's software related and that's based purely on a test I just did with a 3rd party camera app and the stock one. I took the same shot with both camera apps and did nothing but let it auto focus and take the shot, one looks fine, the other looks blurry ... Doesn't take much guess work to figure out by these results, that it must be software based because both pictures use the same hardware
Check these 3 pictures. One is a nice close up with the stock camera on Sense, which looks very good. The other two pics are the two mentioned earlier, as you can see, stock Sense camera is blurry and out of focus but the 3rd party one is much, much better ...
Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
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Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
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They're not going to be full of detail, it's dull, I didn't adjust any settings, I didn't manually focus or adjust exposure and I took them from my room ... Through the window.
I didn't take them to capture detail, purely to show how two different camera apps using the same hardware, give completely different results when it comes to backgrounds not being blurred or out of focus. If it had been a nice day and scenic then the pictures would obviously have looked better but then my issue is with focus and blur on the Sense camera, not how little detail the HTC is capable of capturing when the conditions are anything but perfect.
My camera just seems to have issues staying focused, pictures aren't bad by any means though.
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I am on my 3rd HTC One M7 since April when I initially ordered. First two had gaps and poor build quality. I finally get a good build but have the same camera issue. Its all out of focus and bit blurred. I have reset to factory etc but no fix so its hardware problem.It's now on its way back for repair with P4U in the UK. Hopefully 4th time I will get a workable well built phone.
I seem to be experiencing the same issue. It didn't start happening until Sep. 14th. Did your issues start suddenly, or did your One always have this problem?
Here are some example shots:
Proper auto focus at a short distance
Improper auto focus from maybe 10 feet away
Improper auto focus from far away
And my phone issues, you can interview about the android4.2.2, perfect results, the focus is normal, close-range vision is normal, personal guess is driver problem, but no ability to solve, hope can help transplant drive.
please delete.
I'll start this off by saying I am new to this phone. I currently use this and a galaxy note 2, but for all purposes this has been my daily driver. I have been very pleased with nearly every aspect of it, but there is one small thing that has been driving me up the wall (maybe it exists but I'm simply missing it??):
Why is there no macro mode??!!??
I like to take macro shots, and because of this I cannot get nearly as close as I can on pretty much any other phone I've owned. For some reason it will not focus extremely close.
I'm so confused as to why they left this out.. The intelligent auto does next to nothing to fix it. You can get in relatively close, but not macro close. Any other fixes other than using a different camera app (if that would even fix the issue)?
I use the Lenovo app, its great and there is a macro mode.
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I use the Lenovo app, its great and there is a macro mode.
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Thanks for the suggestion!
I'll have to try that out
huh ? i get the flower and the "macro" when i try to take a picture of something 3cm away in iAuto mode!
Haldi4803 said:
huh ? i get the flower and the "macro" when i try to take a picture of something 3cm away in iAuto mode!
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You cannot get as close as you can with most cameras
I tested with my note 2, and others (which were able to get much closer)...
It just won't focus properly
i get good macro shots can you upload a macro shot to see what are you talking about
You can try all the applications that you want, simply won't focus under 10-12 cm.
I don't know why, but it is so.
Touch focus is better for me, Touch the object you want and your phone will try to focus
But, don't get too close, 8-12cm is the normal range for phone to take very sharp macro photos.
If you want to get closer, don't forget that crop "Digital Zoom" function, Yes it reduce the quality, but you can make better composition.
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Touch focus is better for me, Touch the object you want and your phone will try to focus
But, don't get too close, 8-12cm is the normal range for phone to take very sharp macro photos.
If you want to get closer, don't forget that crop "Digital Zoom" function, Yes it reduce the quality, but you can make better composition.
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That is what I use, touch focus,..
Imo that isn't a real macro then
I mean a macro, not just a "fairly course picture"
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But, don't get too close, 8-12cm is the normal range for phone to take very sharp macro photos.
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Imo for macro shot Xperia S is better than Xperia Z (I have both). With XS I can focus properly at 5-6 cm.
Not being nasty in any way, but lets remember, this is only a phone. The camera is a convenience, not a luxury. If you want great macro shots or the like then you need to be looking to either hit up a DSLR or like me head for the oldschool SLRs.
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Not being nasty in any way, but lets remember, this is only a phone. The camera is a convenience, not a luxury. If you want great macro shots or the like then you need to be looking to either hit up a DSLR or like me head for the oldschool SLRs.
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Haven't had the issue with pretty much any other phone I've owned though
I'm just not really sure why it is like this.
This kind of answer isn't really helpful though in any way.
Sony are praised for their cameras, yet they leave out a basic feature that my note 2 has, and my older x10 had.
Just seems strange
crixley said:
Haven't had the issue with pretty much any other phone I've owned though
I'm just not really sure why it is like this.
This kind of answer isn't really helpful though in any way.
Sony are praised for their cameras, yet they leave out a basic feature that my note 2 has, and my older x10 had.
Just seems strange
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I appreciate it is a strange decision, but then so was the choice to release the add on lense things.Honestly, manufactures do slip up, and I would guess this was one of those times. It's a shame, aside from the battery bug issue and the one you are on about, the phone is near perfection.
Right.. We actually need manual focus like in the pro camera app from Nokia.. And it's now impossible since I've used manual focus on a gingerbread LG phone before.. Tried Porting the app, get fc moments after the ui shows
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Why you dont shoot from 10-12 cm with goog focus and next go to crop the image with edithor - stock or something from the market.Or just use digital zoom- it is actualy real time croping.The picture is 13 mpx and have many many pixels to zoom/crop.
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Why you dont shoot from 10-12 cm with goog focus and next go to crop the image with edithor - stock or something from the market.Or just use digital zoom- it is actualy real time croping.The picture is 13 mpx and have many many pixels to zoom/crop.
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Besides the point though really..
It is a very basic feature, I just can't understand why it isn't there. Does the s4 have it (since it uses the same sensor I hear)?
We gave our Nexus 5 in the hands of a photographer (friend of mine) for a month, and this is what we get!
Very impressive!
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/01/...i-di-un-fotografo-il-nostro-test-foto-209321/
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We gave our Nexus 5 in the hands of a photographer (friend of mine) for a month, and this is what we get!
Very impressive!
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/01/...i-di-un-fotografo-il-nostro-test-foto-209321/
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Knowing a thing or two about taking picture taking results in some impressive pictures.
Whodathunkit!
Cirkustanz said:
Knowing a thing or two about taking picture taking results in some impressive pictures.
Whodathunkit!
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yup
There's some pretty severe pink-camera-problem going on in the center of most of the photos.
Wow, these look great.
Getting excited to see if I'll be able to get shots which look are remotely as good
and you had to get a photographer for those shots? :laugh:
anyways, OP has "generating clicks" written all over it.
Nice shots! I especially like how well OIS works on the n5 when taking videos too, much better than the n4.
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There's some pretty severe pink-camera-problem going on in the center of most of the photos.
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I think that issue is pretty common these days, you camera might even produce those with the very same conditions.
Nice Pic's, probably could have been a litter better if it was from a White N5
Grande ciso!
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I think that issue is pretty common these days, you camera might even produce those with the very same conditions.
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My N4 has it as well, I agree, but not to the extent as observed in those photos.
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Nice Pic's, probably could have been a litter better if it was from a White N5
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O_O explain
biscuitownz said:
O_O explain
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Auto correct. Little. White N5's are better than the black ones
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Auto correct. Little. White N5's are better than the black ones
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How are they a little better?
cisoprogressivo said:
We gave our Nexus 5 in the hands of a photographer (friend of mine) for a month, and this is what we get!
Very impressive!
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/01/...i-di-un-fotografo-il-nostro-test-foto-209321/
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I am assuming that your friend bit**ed and moaned about the lack of manual shutter speed and aperture control, default camera app (awful), and in general lack of a manual mode (which is how most pros shoot- manually setting everything).
Disclaimer: I'm a photographer (not the 'I have a DSLR and use AUTO mode and press this thingy' photographer, the 'I have my own successful business' kind) and the lack of manual shutter & aperture is beyond frustrating to me. Sure there are (mostly worthless) apps that give you some control of ISO, WB, burst mode, etc., but without those vital exposure controls (shutter and aperture) to me all smartphone cameras will suck.
I know, I know. It's not a pro level slr... it's a phone...
Of course having stunning locations always helps.
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I am assuming that your friend bit**ed and moaned about the lack of manual shutter speed and aperture control, default camera app (awful), and in general lack of a manual mode (which is how most pros shoot- manually setting everything).
Disclaimer: I'm a photographer (not the 'I have a DSLR and use AUTO mode and press this thingy' photographer, the 'I have my own successful business' kind) and the lack of manual shutter & aperture is beyond frustrating to me. Sure there are (mostly worthless) apps that give you some control of ISO, WB, burst mode, etc., but without those vital exposure controls (shutter and aperture) to me all smartphone cameras will suck.
I know, I know. It's not a pro level slr... it's a phone...
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While I agree with you that the default camera app is incredibly awful and lacks many controls, mobile phones are replacing point and shoot cameras, not DSLRs or micro 4/3. Also, most people use photos nowadays for stupid web shots/social/ready-made-filters etc and not for printing or cropping and zooming for the perfect frame.
I replaced my Cannon P&S since I had the HTC One X two years ago, but no mobile will ever replace my Fuji X-A1
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(which is how most pros shoot- manually setting everything).
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I don't disagree with you on anything but this - most modern SLR pros I know (less than 100, but many more than 10) do NOT shoot all manual. Most may shoot A-priority or S-priority, or use P mode and wheel their way to the desired blend, but only landscape, product or portrait shooters really can practically go all manual, all the time - you need non-moving subjects and somewhat consistent lighting to rock all manual and get a decent return on your shots.
And let's be fair, manual shooting modes do not make better pictures: better photographers make better pictures.
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While I agree with you that the default camera app is incredibly awful and lacks many controls, mobile phones are replacing point and shoot cameras, not DSLRs or micro 4/3. Also, most people use photos nowadays for stupid web shots/social/ready-made-filters etc and not for printing or cropping and zooming for the perfect frame.
I replaced my Cannon P&S since I had the HTC One X two years ago, but no mobile will ever replace my Fuji X-A1
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I know this and agree with you entirely, but I do have an old Polaroid P&S that allows me to set the shutter speed (like from 1/30-1/200, but no aperture control) and that thing is 5+ years old now. But yeah, the need to own a P&S is mostly non-existent with how good smartphone cameras are getting now. It still wouldn't stop me from griping about the things I mentioned if someone gave me a smartphone to take photos with the expectation of delivering pro quality work though (OP was 'I gave my phone to my pro friend to see what he/she could do').
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I don't disagree with you on anything but this - most modern SLR pros I know (less than 100, but many more than 10) do NOT shoot all manual. Most may shoot A-priority or S-priority, or use P mode and wheel their way to the desired blend, but only landscape, product or portrait shooters really can practically go all manual, all the time - you need non-moving subjects and somewhat consistent lighting to rock all manual and get a decent return on your shots.
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The only problem I have with P, A, and S priority modes is the reaction time of the camera to lighting conditions - especially outdoors. I particularly have an issue with P mode as most cameras seem to want a neutral/balanced shutter and aperture - like 1/60 @ f8 - whereas I may want 1/125 or faster @ f4.5-6.3 - and it gets worse outdoors (like wanting 1/160 @ f25 instead of 1/800 @ f8 etc) almost necessitating use of S mode if auto operation is desired. It also seems to take too long sometimes for the camera to read the amount of light and adjust the exposure (shutter speed in A mode or aperture in S mode) correctly. Shooting in manual mode for me is easier and better for me as I can read the light and pick a proper shutter, etc. based on conditions where I am shooting without having to worry about being occasionally slightly too bright (concern for a loss of detail being washed out) or too dark (where softness/pixelation comes into play).
But I suppose how you use your camera will vary on what you are taking pictures of. My gripe with the Nexus 5 is that with adequate lighting indoors and having the flash on auto the camera seems to always want to take pictures with the flash off at 1/10 or 1/20 @ f10 ISO ~400 or something like that, and that's just no good with really anything especially pictures of the kids. Why can't I at least just set the shutter? So many blurry pics... I thought there would be more emphasis on getting the camera experience better on a Nexus phone... the sad thing is that the hardware is actually really good for a phone but sadly the software side is woefully behind :crying:
And let's be fair, manual shooting modes do not make better pictures: better photographers make better pictures.
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Absolutely correct.
I always love these posts,
I have been an on again off again professional photographer for over 10 years mostly in industrial photography.
Even once owned an online photography magazine with pros writing articles from around the world.
My first thought is that it never really has much to do with the camera, its the photographer that stands behind this.
The best example I can give you of this, is the gear snobs that say you can't use mirror-less cameras in the professional setting.
Just grab a pro photographer give them a Nikon V1 or a Olympus OM-D and let them go shooting for a day.
As far as not having P/S/A/M modes, it's a phone....
1 in 100 000 people will even know what that is and about a third of those will actually know how to use it.
If we want to talk camera geek for a moment.
Sensor size is 1/3.2″
Aperture is f2.4 (fixed Aperture)
Max iso is 100 - 800
What does this mean?
Low light shots will still be grainy (Tiny sensor doesn't collect enough light)
The Lens is equivalent to about 28mm which if you have a Canon Rebel or a Nikon DXXXX camera it works out to the 18mm on a kit lens.
So why no manual control?
Well with a fixed aperture of 2.4 what can you change?
Well if you know cameras there is something called the exposure triangle, all this means is aperture, shutter speed, iso have to line up just right for an image to be exposed correctly. In A (aperture priority) you only control aperture and iso, S (shutter priority)you only control shutter and iso, and M you control everything. If you can't change the aperture then you can't use these modes.
Any app that says it gives you control of these things are just simulated.
Every photographers favorite word.... Bokeh!
The blur in the background, how to get it on a phone.
First we have to look at two things the 28mm lens and the tiny sensor. The smaller the sensor does not help at all in this case and nether does the focal length. To get Bokeh with your phone you have to get really really close to your subject almost as if your taking a macro shot.
One more trick for you guys if your still reading this, the camera phone is not ideal for taking portraits.
The reason why is at 28mm you get barrel distortion that pulls the center of the image towards the viewer. You can give people longer than usual noses and get strangeness going on. If your going to take a portrait of a person, instead of taking a close up on the face back up a bit. It will help hide this distortion.
Wow didn't mean for this to come out this long but I am at work, and bored.... lol
Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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Are you talking about back or front camera?
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Are you talking about back or front camera?
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Sorry Back cam
The zoom is pathetic, I give it that. I'm visually impaired and frequently use the camera to read at a distance. Can't do it on this phone.
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The zoom is pathetic, I give it that. I'm visually impaired and frequently use the camera to read at a distance. Can't do it on this phone.
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It's digital zoom, obviously you lose quality when using it.
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It's digital zoom, obviously you lose quality when using it.
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All phones are digital zoom to my knowledge. This is the worst camera for zoom I've ever had on a phone.
not sure why people are complaining on smartphone cameras expecting to provide SLR like features.
3T camera is not bad at all, in fact it is better than in my HTC 10
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Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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you did remove the small piece of film over the lens? (sorry had to ask)
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you did remove the small piece of film over the lens? (sorry had to ask)
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... there's film over the lens? I didn't see it, and can't see it now
The iPhone with 2 cameras have optical zoom. So not all phones. Probably some huawei phones as well.
If you want clear zoom (for visually impaired) get a zoom lens that clips on.
As for fuzziness (this note is for OP) try fussing with the app. HQ mode etc.. Also is it low light or bright light?
get the google camera 4.2 apk very nice shoots