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Hi I've used a AKG 450 headset for a long time. The sound of it was very good if I used sony's w600 Bluetooth. If I connected it to the phone the sound wasnt to much to brag about. But now I've bought a sennheiser HD25-II-2 and a Fiio E11 but the sound through the Sony just sucks. But when I connect it directly too the phone, it sound, well, bloody f***ing good! So the situation has turned 360°. So what's wrong here? It got a great DA-converter but the phone's amp cant handle any resistance?
Amplifier, not a DA converter ;-)
I'm satisfied with sound, nothing spectacular but ok. It depends on what kind of headphones you have, higher impendance means higher load on headphone amp. Some like that, some not...
But, review on GSM arena said something about almost exceptional sound when connected to external amp so check it out
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No, DA -converter. It must be really good compared to its amp. The akg is a perfect 32 ohms resistance, but still it sounded very bad indeed. But with the Fiio E11 amp it sounds so good that it just (almost) doesnt make sense
I seem to remember that the highend senheisers, needs power to play well. I always go for low resistance headphones, since i only drive them with my phone amp. Sound was good with my old Sennheiser cx300 and realy good with my Sunrise Xcape Impressive edition.
That was why I bought the amp. But I had no idea that this sound was waiting to be release from the x2! All the reviews points at the stereo crossover.
I wasn't aware about theese portable amps, i might be interested if i would gain anything with my easy driven inears. I haven't taken any concern about the crossover, i don't notice it. But I guess it would still be pressent with the amp.
I've just gone through the review from gms arena and the crossover is only with headset. That confirms what I experience with an amp. Believe me, it sounds really good!
Ok normaly the Xcapes don't need an amp. But that's with ipods and sansa clip's etc. Do you think the amp in the optimus 2 x is a lot less powerfull than mp3 players normaly is. Then i should consider getting an amp maybe the Fiio e5 ?
I havent heard the E5. Its dirt cheap and I bet it sounds like it. The E11 was about 36$ from mp4 nation when I ordred it ....
Edit: from mp4 nation: )
Ok just noticed the e6. An upgrade of e5. The sound quality is said to be good. But not on par wit e11
Just one way to find out.
i find it just a meh. the bass is flat.
The bass of E11 is very tight and punchy. Guess its the way to go then.
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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Are you sure your friend didn't say that usb would use the headunit dac instead? I know that works that way, usb c to usb into my headunit for direct file play using only the headunit dac not headunit dac+ phone dac. No, I can't see any adapters your talking about having built into dac.
I can also tell you that I can't use high res in poweramp through usb or UHQ upscaler in settings with usb audio. I prob won't use it much due to those reasons, or Bluetooth for poor audio quality and no uhq upscaler either. Leaving aux for being the best for audio on this phone.
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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The moment you use the usb-c port to play your music, it bypasses the internal DAC. This is why ALL usb-c earbuds etc have their own DAC. I honestly doubt an adapter-DAC combo less than 10 pounds will outperform the DAC in the Note 8.
There is a major distinction between
1. How the DAC processes and shapes your music.
2. How 'powerful' it is and if it can handle high impedance headphones.
Seems to me that no. 2 is likely but definitely not no.1 with the adapter you linked.
It is well known that LOUDNESS(not volume) often comes across as BETTER quality sound.
Thanks guys I'm no audiophile I just wanted better and louder sound which the usb c headphone adapter seems (placebo maybe) do I've looked around on Amazon with a few of them claiming that they have decent dac built it
Do these dac in the adapters bypass the phone dac or something ?
Hi, I would like to buy the xz2. I recently had the lg v30 and since I like to use Viper4Android, I just did not like the v30 DAC. I also like to use Viper4Android again, my question is, is the sound quality about usb type c to jack just as good as the old 3.5 mm jack? can I use Viper4Android like that? with the jack adapter?
I own headphones from good old Z2 times (MDR-NC31EM) and sound quality is better than Z2 and better than Z5, Clear & Loud, i do miss noise the canceling function in sound menu, maybe because of usb to 3.5 adapter. But i cannot speak about sound mods cause i dont use them realy.
I used this headphones on Z2, Z5 and now XZ2 to give real comparison. Sound is Excelent
I agree, sound is excellent. Slightly louder than previous Sony devices. Quality is good but as stated by stipi69, no noise cancelation capability and I'm using the Sony mdr-nc750. No comparison to LG V30 though. That device audio is far superior to the XZ2.
I do not know how to assess it, whether much quality is lost from the sound, thereby only having an adapter for headphones
can one actually use the original adapter of the htc?
You did not like the V30 DAC? That's odd. Together with the V20 it has the best sound quality you can get in a phone (or pretty much any other portable device). If you want better, you'll be looking at spending quite a bit on an external DAC and headphone amp.
I did not like LG's default settings for the dac. Now have the Bose Soundsport Wireless free. With my xz2 and a Tidal Hifi Abbo just the MADNESS
I have them too, I'm not so impressed with them from a sound quality perspective. Had the Sony WF-1000X before, which sounded better, but had connection issues. My main headphone is the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm though, and before that Sony MDR-CD480. The Beyerdynamic really need the amp of my LG V20.
Do you mean now, you are not so excited about the evil headphones?
You mean about the Bose? They are fine. Overall I like them more than the Sony WF-1000X. However those made me smile listening to them, which happens with very few headphones. The Sonys sound wonderful, but have some serious connection issues, no volume controls, etc.
Can someone tell me how I can use the HTC adapter with viper4android correct? At the moment this is unfortunately only recognized in the tab speaker, which is not meaningful. I want the adapter to be recognized as headphones or under USB in Viper. Is there in the ne XML, where you could achieve something by means of editing
You could contact Viper team directly, i would imagine they'll be happy to add support for even more devices andconfigs
I am looking for a 3.5 mm jack aif usb type c adapter, with which you can get the most out of music quality. I ask you to enlighten me and advice. A second question would be still, is the quality of the sound over a jack adapter worse than a built-in 3.5 mm jack connection. thank you for your help
There's no way you will hear a difference between 3.5mm jack and usb-c connector, because it's still the audio chip that "makes" the sound. Still, if you'd have headphones costing thousands of bucks, you'd never tell if 3.5mm or usb-c is better in phone. Mobile audio chips aren't so great all in all. That being said, adapter that comes with XZ2 is perfectly fine. Buy reasonably earphones and enjoy the music.
He's talking about external DAC... And it makes a huge difference if the DAC is decent. This way the sound is transmitted to the usbc hardware as a digital feed and is then decoded.
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Check out this guy.
Qualcomm AQT1000 32bit/384kHz with playback dynamic range of 122dB.
I was actually interested in whether the sound on the included adapter is just as good as if you directly installed a jack. I would be interested in the technical data as far as the sound of the snapdragon 845 is concerned. at xz2
HTC U11 adapter is good enough. (I use and recommend it)
Sound quality is great, with no distortion and good (high) volume! (24bit/192kHz)
Sent from my Sony Xperia XZ2!
I also looked for that. but where can I buy the original?
In USA, HTC website.
From time to time it appears to sell.
https://www.htc.com/de/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/#!pid=htc-u11
that would be him? what is actually better with the adapter than with the sony?
The HTC adapter has a stronger AMP and better DAC inside.
but that's the adapter where I posted the link from
the SMSL DACs work, brought one over from my XZ1. But it has the same issue it did there, it'll only work through specific apps for local audio files and supported streams. I use USB Audio Player Pro, a paid app.
If you're just looking for an analogue pass through for USB C to 3.5mm and NOT a DAC, these from INGOUE work fine: https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-IN...533674928&sr=8-8&keywords=usb+c+3.5mm+adapter
Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
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why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
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because the sound quality from the 3.5mm is so poor
I have huawei p20 headphones also with usb-c and these are better than anything else.
spender1 said:
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
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Want to know does it worths to buy the adaptor just for sound quality improvement?
That's a difficult question as I always find audio a very personal thing.
I have just tried my Akg K451 headphones with both the audio jack on the phone and the HTC adaptor.
The HTC 3.5 mm adaptor is significantly louder than the audio jack at full volume. I notice some distortion in the audio jack that is absent on the HTC adaptor. I think the audio from the adaptor is fuller and far more pleasing to my ear.
I have no idea how these things work, for instance does the HTC adaptor have its own DAC or is it simply a pass through device? The difference in audio level would suggest to me the presence of its own DAC so maybe that would account for the difference in audio .
Maybe it's worth buying the adaptor just to drive certain headphones better. I have a pair of status audio headphones at home that I normally use with a headphone amp to drive them I will try them on the 7 plus later to see how they sound with the audio jack and the adaptor.
Sorry I can't be more definitive.
By the way the HTC adaptor is around £10 in the UK direct from HTC.
Is the sound quality and volume really that bad or is it just some specific/batch units?
I listen to a lot of audiobooks on the go and it would be a shame if this was a dealbreaker.
No I don't find the audio particularly bad and most of the time it is loud enough.
Most of the time I use the 3.5 jack and don't have a problem but when I'm sitting listening to music and doing nothing else I prefer the audio from my HTC adapter.
The volume will depend on the impeadence of the headphones used, my AKG headphones are always much louder than my status audio ones when used in the same device.
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Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
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I think it can，I used a Xiaomi's type-c headset that can be used
Quite strangely, My Mi A2's USB-C to 3.5 adapter DOES NOT WORK with my Nokia 7+