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There are no usenet groups for android/G1.

Moderators, please feel free to move this to another forum if it doesn't fit here.
There are currently no Usenet groups for Android software or supported trans-coded video files. There are advantages to hosting these files on Usenet, rather than on this, or other websites. Please PM me if you would like to hear my opinion. I will not discuss this openly.
I would like to propose one be created, but actual new group additions to Usenet are a pain in the rear and require a community backing.
Is anyone else here familiar with the process?
I have never added a group myself, but I have worked for a Usenet provider and know that it is not a simple process. It would require a proposal in the alt.control newsgroup, as well as a discussion and justification of the group between supporters and the ISC (www.isc.org). For this, we need people to speak up and support our group in the alt.control newsgroup.
Notice how I say OUR group. I propose the group be un-moderated, because suggesting a moderated group requires a lot more organization, time, and discussion before the ISC will consider the addition.
Again, if anyone has actually undergone the addition of a new group, please speak up. If no one has, but people are interested, I will try to work with Usenet assistance groups on getting a group added.
Thoughts?

I'd be surprised if a quarter of this forum knows what a newsgroup is.

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I'd be surprised if a quarter of this forum knows what a newsgroup is.
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Ahh, well if there is not a community interest, I won't pursue it. In my opinion, the brightest people use this site, so I'm only posting here.

I guess then, I am one of the 25%. I gave up on usenet years ago when the content to spam ratio got too bad.
I still grin when I think of alt.barney.die.die.die

I guess it all depends on what exactly the OP wants out of a newsgroup. These days most interest groups / communities on the internet form around http-based services like forums and bulletin boards. There are also hybrid http/email mailing list type things. Generally the whole of the Android community is well served by these tools already. Between the various fansites (phandroid, androidguys, etc), the Google android-discuss groups, xda-dev, and #[email protected], I think there are plenty of points on the internet as-is for all comers alike.
Of course, then theres the modern-day usage of usenet, which is not so much discussion-centric rather than a no-holds-barred haven for digital piracy and pretty much every kind of porn under the sky.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714435 by MikeChannon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1271745 by Kareem,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1100447 by Greenstuffs,
Some informal advice on trading for avoiding scams
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Use your common sense. If someone is selling something that is going on ebay in similar condition for more, consider why they are doing this, when ebay would give them more money.
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Censorship on social media platforms

Truth is the first casualty in a war or something similar is an often quoted saying these days. The recent reports of censorship on social media platforms are good examples of this censorship. Freedom of speech does not mean the license to troll or spread wrong information. I feel censorship by impartial judges is justified. The operative word being impartial.
What do you think? Do you agree with this view?
Do you think social media platforms should allow the unfiltered flow of content?

I don't use FB, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp, Tic-tok or bother to view a any of the major US news network's bs.
They pushed too hard and the worm has turned...

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I don't use FB, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp, Tic-tok or bother to view a any of the major US news network's bs.
They pushed too hard and the worm has turned...
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Not using any of these social media apps is definitely one approach. The problem is if we have family members active on only these platforms!

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Not using any of these social media apps is definitely one approach. The problem is if we have family members active on only these platforms!
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Not good... my Mom didn't raise a fool.
Need to bring up their level of wherewithal.
All those sites are purveyors of disinformation at the very best and completely untrustworthy.

censorship is no longer a matter of social media, it's daily business on public media too and concerns all people around the world. nowadays it's even forced by law on governments outrage. we have passed 1984 long ago.
I don't see a reason why we should play their game and self-censor each own. On the other hand there are people out there spreading fake-news on telegram or whatever, so I am fine with our common board rules - no religion - no politics.
Having own opinion is part of our identity. we don't judge about someones avatar or profile signature - what we all have in common we are tech nerds, that's why we signed up here, don't we?

this is currently happen on xda? some true useful stuff is from 4pda (WwR MTK which is really great tool to create scatter files for mediatek devices, Orange State Disabler which patches little kernel to remove the 5 seconds delay on unlocked bootloader, just to mention two of them) and is mirrored on xda by members (not authors). some genius russian spend lot time and mind and offers it for free, so why not allow link to origin for respectful giving proper credits?
my opinion, xda should generally allow links to 4pda and only censor if necessary. each link should be surveyed for its advertising character on its own. only explicit links should removed, no generalized claims...
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Welcome to XDA! We're greatful that you share your knowledge.
However; I've removed the references to 4pda! Same applies to your post here.
4pda is not only another phone related website (and not at all affiliated with xda-developers) but also well known for the distribution of malware and warez. Links to 4pda are not accepted on XDA.
XDA Forum Rules (excerpt):
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aIecxs said:
this is currently happen on xda? some true useful stuff is from 4pda (WwR MTK which is really great tool to create scatter files for mediatek devices, Orange State Disabler which patches little kernel to remove the 5 seconds delay on unlocked bootloader, just to mention two of them) and is mirrored on xda by members (not authors). some genius russian spend lot time and mind and offers it for free, so why not allow link to origin for respectful giving proper credits?
my opinion, xda should generally allow links to 4pda and only censor if necessary. each link should be surveyed for its advertising character on its own. only explicit links should removed, no generalized claims...
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@Alecxs Thanks very much for sharing your opinion. Censorship is a very subjective qualification for an action especially on a completely private website. In all the years that I'm visiting, monitoring and contributing to XDA - even before I was allowed to join the very small team of volunteers who mediate this site - I've never seen that anything has been censored on XDA. What I've seen (and am actually also now doing as a moderator) is that posts were edited or removed in cases when no content would remain after an edit because those post were not in line with the rules of this private website.
Would you call it censorship if I remove a post with a link to a child-porn site and ban the author? I certainly wouldn't call it so, and I'd even report all information I have in such cases to my local police station. Would you call it censorship?
Would you call it censorship if I remove a link to a website that offers warez and cracked premium applications and inform the authors that we don't accept that at all and made all users aware about this stance shown in rule no. 6 of our forum rules? I certainly wouldn't call it so. Would you do?
If we've visitors at our home and we told them please not to smoke but they don't care and do, I ask them to immediately leave. Would you call that censorship of the actions of our visitors? I certainly wouldn't call it so. Would you do?
In your above post you clearly explain that 4pda is another phone related website; something I also mentioned in my post that you've quoted. And the third bullet of our rule no. 11 says:
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
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I think it's just fair and quite understandable that XDA doesn't want to be a promotional platform for another phone related website.
If I visit the restaurant "Bella Roma" and order my drinks but when the waiter brings the menu, I say negative, please bring me the menu of the "Bella Napoli", I like to order their food, I'm most likely told that I won't be served and eat at the "Bella Roma" but could leave any time.

no generalized claims. that's all I said
edit: google translate: no sweeping accusations. that's what I wanted to say