Hey everyone,
This is my first time using a phone with an onscreen fingerprint reader and when I first got it I was somewhat disappointed with the speed of reading. That being said I tried a few things out and managed to get the reader to be fast enough for my liking so I thought I'd share what I did.
Note that this is not in any way meant to be a comprehensive guide that works for everyone-- just what I found worked best for me.
What I initially tried to do was register five fingerprints using my thumbs and index fingers. I had two registered for each thumb and one for my index finger. This worked but was markedly slow no matter how many times I redid the scans.
I then tried to delete all of them and then only had 1 fingerprint saved but scanned both my thumbs in the same fingerprint. This worked MUCH faster for reading but often didn't recognize my finger.
The sweet spot was when I added a second and third profile ALSO using both thumbs. I noticed by the third profile that when i tried to put my thumb on to teach it it would say "fingerprint already enrolled" more and more often untill it was a struggle for it to recognize any angle of my thumbs as "new". Once that was done I found the fingerprint reader to be incredibly fast and accurate.
Tldr; to get the best speeds add three profiles using the same two thumbs in each profile until it stops recognizing your thumbs as new fingerprints.
homer.ali said:
Hey everyone,
This is my first time using a phone with an onscreen fingerprint reader and when I first got it I was somewhat disappointed with the speed of reading. That being said I tried a few things out and managed to get the reader to be fast enough for my liking so I thought I'd share what I did.
Note that this is not in any way meant to be a comprehensive guide that works for everyone-- just what I found worked best for me.
What I initially tried to do was register five fingerprints using my thumbs and index fingers. I had two registered for each thumb and one for my index finger. This worked but was markedly slow no matter how many times I redid the scans.
I then tried to delete all of them and then only had 1 fingerprint saved but scanned both my thumbs in the same fingerprint. This worked MUCH faster for reading but often didn't recognize my finger.
The sweet spot was when I added a second and third profile ALSO using both thumbs. I noticed by the third profile that when i tried to put my thumb on to teach it it would say "fingerprint already enrolled" more and more often untill it was a struggle for it to recognize any angle of my thumbs as "new". Once that was done I found the fingerprint reader to be incredibly fast and accurate.
Tldr; to get the best speeds add three profiles using the same two thumbs in each profile until it stops recognizing your thumbs as new fingerprints.
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If you can register the same print twice then it didn't do a good job the first time. I have never been able to register the same finger twice.
Not sure what's going on with your phone where you need to do all that.
I registered both thumbs and index fingers only once each. It's basically the same speed as any physical fingerprint reader I've used with any of my registered fingerprints.
Seems to me (in my experience anyway) the only way to make it go faster is turn off all security and pick up and use the phone!
It's not as fast as the dedicated reader on the back of the 6, but it's plenty fast enough
I have registered each of both my thumbs only once and it works 99% of the time very quicky. Something is wrong with your finger mate.
I can confirm that registering two sets of Prints with the same finger works......and the fingerprint reader is way faster now. it will tell you that you already registered that singer but the trick is to keep trying because it didn't register every part of your finger with the first fingerprint.... my fingerprint reader was pretty fast before but now it's super fast I barely have to touch it. I can confirm this definitely works... Also I could only do two profiles for each finger
I needed to do this on my 6T. 7 Pro has been as fast as a physical scanner so I haven't felt the need to do any of this. Normal registration and use of the scanner works flawlessly for me. Just my experience!
rickysidhu_ said:
I needed to do this on my 6T. 7 Pro has been as fast as a physical scanner so I haven't felt the need to do any of this. Normal registration and use of the scanner works flawlessly for me. Just my experience!
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Same. I only registered my left and right once. Fingerprint sensor works 99 percent of the time and fast as hell. I had a note 8 and the fingerprint sensor on those was slow as hell.
Try turning off the fingerprint animation as well. It made it faster for me
You suck guys. You suck.
affection788 said:
I have registered each of both my thumbs only once and it works 99% of the time very quicky. Something is wrong with your finger mate.
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That's actually entirely possible ?
I work in health care so I have to sanitize my hands easily 50 times a day.. that tends to wear out fingerprints!
I turned off the haptic feedback.
affection788 said:
I have registered each of both my thumbs only once and it works 99% of the time very quicky. Something is wrong with your finger mate.
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Lol he got a stink finger and the phone wants none of it.
Eric214 said:
Lol he got a stink finger and the phone wants none of it.
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Hahahaha the ole stink finger
Guess I've got pretty complicated fingers as the thread starter as well ?
What works for me is:
1. Register the right thumb (1. fingerprint) with the "base" of the finger and a little bit more pressure.
2. Register the right thumb again (2. fingerprint) with the tip of the finger and light pressure.
3. Register left thumb like before (3. + 4. fingerprint).
4. Register index finger "normal" (5. fingerprint) or anything else.
5. Change animation to stripe.
When unlocking the phone from ambient display, lay down your finger while increasing pressure a tiny bit. It's super fast for me now.
I've got no chance when registrating only one or registrating the fingerprints in dark rooms, it'll be fast for the first hours but then they'll become very slow.
Maybe this will help anyone.
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On average it takes me 3 attempts to successfully log in using my fingerprint. Sometimes it will take many more attempts. I've scanned three fingers in every direction and orientation, but the recognition is still exceedingly poor. Why would the Note 4 have such a useless scanner? So frustrating
Don't scan each finger different directions when you register them. Do one orientation for each set of 10 registration swipes. I've registered my left and right thumb going sideways (as you would to unlock while holding it one handed) and I have near 100% success unlocking on the first try.
When registes my finger print i only use swipe straight and it work well.
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I find the fingerprint reader 100% reliable....not 95%....100% I have been so impressed that I have not had failed swipes at all. The thing is not to rush swiping your finger. Get a nice smooth movement. Even on the iPhone it takes more than 1 second to scan the finger and unlock even though there is no swiping movement. With the Note 4, you need to swipe at the same speed. When I registered my finger I did not swipe from different orientations but I did lean more on the left side of my finger, then middle, then leaning more on the right side. I use my index finger.....thumbs are bigger/fatter and therefore the contact part of the finger will be more variable.
It works fine but you absolutely have to do it slowly, if you swipe too fast it wont work. With slow swiping i'm easily getting 10 out of 10 successful unlocks
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Don't scan each finger different directions when you register them. Do one orientation for each set of 10 registration swipes. I've registered my left and right thumb going sideways (as you would to unlock while holding it one handed) and I have near 100% success unlocking on the first try.
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Same here.
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On average it takes me 3 attempts to successfully log in using my fingerprint. Sometimes it will take many more attempts. I've scanned three fingers in every direction and orientation, but the recognition is still exceedingly poor. Why would the Note 4 have such a useless scanner? So frustrating
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Mine is working just awesome unlocks in 1st attempt.
I very rarely have problems with it, but when I do, it's usually because I was doing it too fast.
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Muscle memory. It takes a while to get used to swiping with the right speed and direction but eventually it will become second nature. I was struggling at first with 3 or 4 failed attempts everytime but now, after a few days, it's pretty much 100%.
It works perfectly for me. Just like others said, just register one finger, swipe it 10 times. I love this function. it's much faster than a passcode.
It does not matter how many times you scan one finger. Ive scanned each finger and mine works perfectly. unless it says no match then that means you need to be more accurate on the scanner. if its because your not swiping correctly you will pick that up over time. took me a while to get used to it still occasionally doesn't but 95% works fine.
if i use my scanner with my finger straight on then it works 100% but that isn't viable one handed with such a phone you have to use your finger horizontally. That is why it takes getting used to to get it locked down.
I think it works perfectly
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I agree think it's a waste of space, if I really concentrate and do it slowly then fine but for me pattern unlock is twice as fast and I find the phone very top heavy for one handed fingerprint usage so can't be bothered with it
Works flawlessly, maybe placebo but seems far more reliable than the S5 one.
I have to disagree immensely, I thought this at first until I redone my the scans and it works almost all the time now.
You also need to swipe from just above the home button, so not to high, It's very accurate (at least for me ) once you get use to it. I'll advise don't give up.
I have the hardest time getting my thumb to work. ..so i tried swiping upward. Works much better for my thumb. (Train it that way)
Watch this also.
http://youtu.be/Mr526oaxdJk
I too disagree with the OP. Scanner has been near 100% recognition. The only exception is when my thumb is a little moist or sweaty while working it doesn't glide as smoothly so doesn't get a good scan.
Did they change the scanner since the Galaxy S5? It seems soooooooooooo much better on the Note than it did on the S5.
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On average it takes me 3 attempts to successfully log in using my fingerprint. Sometimes it will take many more attempts. I've scanned three fingers in every direction and orientation, but the recognition is still exceedingly poor. Why would the Note 4 have such a useless scanner? So frustrating
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Sorry its u not the note 4. Mine works flawlessly even with oil and grease on my hand from working on the car
I've found that my reader only works about 2 out of every 10 attempts. Sometimes I even get an error saying there's a problem with the scanner and I need to reboot the device. Curious as to if it's only me.
Been quite frustrating to say the least.
Yes I think it is too inconsistent. If you are more accurate in how you apply your print when unlocking it's better, but one shouldn't have to do this. There is also the individuals print depth variance although I know nothing about this. I would bet it can be improved with software updates
I had somewhat of that experience.. when I was setting up fingerprints, when you reach the 80% mark, it asks you to try the tip of your finger... also I register my thumb for example, sideways, not just up and down. Also 2 registered prints for 1 finger.
Hope it helps
I mentioned this in another post. But my advice would be have someone else with deeper fingerprint grooves try. (I used to work on fingerprint/biometrics scanners for medical systems). If they have noticeably better success, it could be your fingerprints. That said it could entirely be a Samsung issue as well. Until I get my hands on a couple of units to try with (one arrived last night I have to set up and the other is backordered), I won't know for sure what the issues are. But I would recommend what I suggested. Alternately note if the person has fingerprint ridges that are as shallow as yours before trying. Then find someone else whose fingerprints are more pronounced. Hopefully that helps at least identify the problem.
Could be hardware issue or natural fingerprint depth? No idea if that could even be the case, but makes sense if it's trying to register the prints. I can confirm that my device recognizes 8 out of 10 times both of my thumb prints and my wife's thumbs as well.
Mine works extremely well and very quickly (less than a second, faster than iPhone). When you register it and when you actually use it, press a bit harder so that your fingerprint flattens out more. For instance when registering it, it might say to "cover the whole button" or whatever, so just press a little bit harder to accomplish that.
Now when I pick up my phone, I just press and hold the button for a split second and am taken to the unlocked homescreen. This makes it quicker and helps it read the finger because you're obviously pressing harder when you actually push the button.
Finger print sensors take some time to get used to. I remember my iPhone 5S and I had issues getting it just right and then you figure it out. Every few days as you get used to the phone and where your finger sits delete the primary finger and out it back in. Also you only get 4 fingerprint slots (which is stupid) and you can train a single finger to multiple slots if you hold it multiple ways
Finally, if you get errors from the device asking you to reboot or its faulty do a factory reset. If that doesn't fix it then get it replaced.
Fwiw mine works about 99% of the times I expect it to. (Sometimes I'm holding it funky and don't want to move it so I try it to see if it catches.)
I will occasionally get a no match but I can tell when that's just because I've put my thumb on it at a bad angle.
I agree with the above, reset it to see if that fixes the issue with it erroring out and telling you to reboot, otherwise get a replacement. That is definitely not normal.
My fingerprint reader works flawlessly, no issues for me.
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My fingerprint reader works flawlessly, no issues for me.
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+1 Flawless! I have an iPhone 6 plus right next to me so I am well aware how they should function and the S6 is actually just a tad faster than the iPhone 6 plus. I really think that's all due to the animations though but the S6 is 10x better than the Note 4 sensor. Thank God they did away with that swipe down crap where it was basically useless unless it was done precisely.
i don't think its so much of an issue with the scanner as it is peoples perception of how it should work. the first time i set up my finger i held the phone in one hand and then pressed it in a couple of different ways with my thumb never really getting it with the tip or the side of my thumb as a result it would never recognize my thumb when i was holding in my hand and pressing the power button mostly hitting it with the tip of my finger. If you don't record your finger in every possible way you might touch the sensor then there's a chance it wont recognize your finger
Mine works great with out issue. I am very picky about my phone being locked. before now I never used any kind of security. This is the longest I have ever had any kind of security on my phone if that says anything.
Thanks for suggesting registering one finger twice, this put the accuracy at 9/10 on the first try versus 5/10 before.
I have also started to register the prints at the most common angles for me (sideways 90 degrees), rarely will you be going straight up and down.
Mine works like a charm. Registered two fingers so I could unlock w/one hand, thumb as well.
I have the tmobile GS6 edge and at first fingerprint scanner was ok (nearly as good as my iphone). In the last week it has been more inconsistent. Some times I get it on the first try, but many times need 4 tries or ending up having to enter the password.
I have an iphone as well (work). The iphone has significantly less errors (by order of magnitude). I have tried different fingertip positions and partial prints and the iphone is much more accurate. I rarely (practically never!) have to re-position a finger more than twice. It may be because the iphone has a round, depressed button, which guides the finger more accurately or simply better scanner quality- i don't know.
In addition the iphone allows ALL 10 fingers to be used.
I am not trying to praise the iphone or insult Samsung and it's galaxy edge line, but to keep throwing praise at a this phone is misleading and encourages mediocrity.
Just for the record, I do not like the iphone and its restrictions. However, most of the iphone's short comings are by purposeful and direct design. On the other hand, I see most of the Samsung's short comings (such as a lower quality fingerprint scanner system, Samsung's bloatware and so on) to be due to poor planing or lower quality rushed to market to try and beat, or catch up with, the competition.
faloom said:
I have the tmobile GS6 edge and at first fingerprint scanner was ok (nearly as good as my iphone). In the last week it has been more inconsistent. Some times I get it on the first try, but many times need 4 tries or ending up having to enter the password.
I have an iphone as well (work). The iphone has significantly less errors (by order of magnitude). I have tried different fingertip positions and partial prints and the iphone is much more accurate. I rarely (practically never!) have to re-position a finger more than twice. It may be because the iphone has a round, depressed button, which guides the finger more accurately or simply better scanner quality- i don't know.
In addition the iphone allows ALL 10 fingers to be used.
I am not trying to praise the iphone or insult Samsung and it's galaxy edge line, but to keep throwing praise at a this phone is misleading and encourages mediocrity.
Just for the record, I do not like the iphone and its restrictions. However, most of the iphone's short comings are by purposeful and direct design. On the other hand, I see most of the Samsung's short comings (such as a lower quality fingerprint scanner system, Samsung's bloatware and so on) to be due to poor planing or lower quality rushed to market to try and beat, or catch up with, the competition.
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Maybe you should delete it and register a new fingerprint. Mine works extremely well
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Can the note 5 fingerprint scanner unlock like nexus 6p without wake up the device(not pressing home/power button)?
Seem stupid to press and wake up the device then use finger print to unlock
As the fingerprint sensor is actually located on the Home button, I am not sure there is a usability issue here...
Okie...maybe just me
Just press and hold the home button. No reason to press then release the press again.
Works but not as fast as the Nexus 6P
Yeh...press the button and keep your finger on the button - unlock.
But actually, the fingerprint sensor is so terribly bad that you might aswell just disable it. That thing is exponentially worse than the iphone ones.
Bah. The fingerprint scanner on the note 5 works like 19/20 times for me. Maybe you just need to re-setup yours.
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Bah. The fingerprint scanner on the note 5 works like 19/20 times for me. Maybe you just need to re-setup yours.
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19/20 would equal a 5% miss rate....which would be terrible. Mine is even worse than that....usually 1 out of 4 is not recognised.
I've retrained it over 20 times, I've tried to scan only one thumb 4 times, didn't make it better.
My ipad and work iPhone didn't trigger a single miss for the last 2 weeks....so that is more like 1 out of of 400.
My wife has a note 5 as well (white one) and my boss has a silver one....none of these are better...
Sorry, the fingerprint reader on the Note is terrible and not even close to that on the iPhone.
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19/20 would equal a 5% miss rate....which would be terrible. Mine is even worse than that....usually 1 out of 4 is not recognised.
I've retrained it over 20 times, I've tried to scan only one thumb 4 times, didn't make it better.
My ipad and work iPhone didn't trigger a single miss for the last 2 weeks....so that is more like 1 out of of 400.
My wife has a note 5 as well (white one) and my boss has a silver one....none of these are better...
Sorry, the fingerprint reader on the Note is terrible and not even close to that on the iPhone.
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It's all in how you place your finger my friend. Keep your placement and pressure consistent... it works fine. If that's too much to ask, go get a different device lol.
I see people retouching their iPhone all the time because it didn't register. But whatever.
Note 5 fingerprint reader works just fine for me - each to their own.
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Tap to wake the device and leave your finger on the button.
Also, as far as accuracy goes, this thing is awesome. I had an iPhone 5s and my wife has the 6. My scanner is just as, if not more accurate than both of those and definitely faster. If you have an issue with the scanner, it's an operator error.
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Tap to wake the device and leave your finger on the button.
Also, as far as accuracy goes, this thing is awesome. I had an iPhone 5s and my wife has the 6. My scanner is just as, if not more accurate than both of those and definitely faster. If you have an issue with the scanner, it's an operator error.
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I highly doubt that. Speed is okayish - slower than the ipad Air 2. The idea behind the scanner is NOT to have to place your finger exactly the same each and every time. It is meant to be able to work fine even with a slightly misplaced fingerprint, that is why you scan it on different angles.
Also, there seems to be an issue with the software - I´ve found that using my finger to unlock the device security section (the one with the fingerprint data) will work at a rate of 19/20. Also, unlocking Apps with the fingerprint reader usually works quite well. Locking the screen and then using the same placement usually results in an error - so there seems to be some software issues going on here too, for some reason an unlock from a woken up device does not work as reliable.
However, I have yet to find anyone with an iPhone or iPad that is not happy with the way how the fingerprint reader works. Sadly it´s quite the contrary for the note 5. Such a great device with such a lousy fingerprint reader. I have times where none of my fingers is recognized, not a single one.
I´ve had a chance to play with the Nexus 6P and can say that their fingerprint reader seems to be on par with Apples. Not a single miss while trying it out ~30 times.
But back to the OP. Do what everyone here told - a slight press to wake up the device and then just leave the finger on the sensor.
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I highly doubt that. Speed is okayish - slower than the ipad Air 2. The idea behind the scanner is NOT to have to place your finger exactly the same each and every time. It is meant to be able to work fine even with a slightly misplaced fingerprint, that is why you scan it on different angles.
Also, there seems to be an issue with the software - I´ve found that using my finger to unlock the device security section (the one with the fingerprint data) will work at a rate of 19/20. Also, unlocking Apps with the fingerprint reader usually works quite well. Locking the screen and then using the same placement usually results in an error - so there seems to be some software issues going on here too, for some reason an unlock from a woken up device does not work as reliable.
However, I have yet to find anyone with an iPhone or iPad that is not happy with the way how the fingerprint reader works. Sadly it´s quite the contrary for the note 5. Such a great device with such a lousy fingerprint reader. I have times where none of my fingers is recognized, not a single one.
I´ve had a chance to play with the Nexus 6P and can say that their fingerprint reader seems to be on par with Apples. Not a single miss while trying it out ~30 times.
But back to the OP. Do what everyone here told - a slight press to wake up the device and then just leave the finger on the sensor.
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Doubt it all you want. My fingerprint scanner is just as good, if not better than the iPhone regardless of the position of my finger. Probably because I move my finger while setting it up.
Try this. When you're setting up your fingerprint, start at the tip of the finger, and every time you take your finger off the button, put it back in a different spot, slightly down your finger. Start from the tip and step down to about the first knuckle. Then do the same thing, starting from the inside edge of your thumb (like you're holding it one-handed) all the way to the other edge. The scanner will get a complete picture of your fingerprint and it won't matter the position it's in when you try to unlock it.
Maybe try to re-train but this time varies the finger position on the sensor as you re-train it, this really improved accuracy many fold for me.
Note 5 finger print scanner is fine for everyday use . Mines haven't failed me not once but that's my experience
Mine works flawlessly.
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The key is having the sensor to register maximum number of friction ridges, next time you re-register your print try to go in circular pattern...
For me personally I was having a lot of trouble with it but for a variety of reasons my fingers, particularly my thumb (which was what I was trying to use) are pretty beaten up. Added my little finger, which is the least beat up, anf from there it has worked at near 100%.
Hey i accidentally found this trick while i was registering my FP on openbeta 8 nougat rom.
and i know there are xposed modules and apps to add more fingerprint than 5 so for those who does not want root or xposed framework here is the trick for you.
Trick is when you are registering finger so instead of using one finger use two finger or even four in the SAME SETUP.
This will register your four finger with just data value of 1 fingerprint .
Hope this helps
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Sure ... And then you lose accuracy.
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I use 10 fingers since my op2.
Explorer23 said:
Sure ... And then you lose accuracy.
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Just try you will not loose any accuracy..
I'm using this trick my FP is fast as it was with one fingerprint
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I use 10 fingers since my op2.
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Nice :good:
sidhg said:
Just try you will not loose any accuracy..
I'm using this trick my FP is fast as it was with one fingerprint
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Fast, yes, ofc this has nothing to do with speed. But you have less inputs to compare scan to, so there's higher chance that sensor won't recognize your finger.
There is a reason they want you to input same finger many times - so you scan it from all angles. If you scan multiple different fingers simultaneously, that means you'll scan each of those finger less times (from less angles), which will give you worse accuracy.
If you always put the finger the same way on your scanner then good, you won't have trouble.
But I sometimes (rarely, but still) manage to get a failed scan even though I "correctly" set up my finger ... It just happens. And with this trick I'm pretty sure those situations would be more common.
Besides, I'm quite happy with only 4 fingerprints set up, don't see a reason why I would need more. Only if I wanted multiple persons to have access to my phone.
If I got myself into a rare situation when I can't use any of my set fingers, there's always the backup option (pattern/PIN/password).
Just my 2 cents
Still a good discovery, glad that it helps some
Use it aswell no issue sofar!
I used this trick on Galaxy s5
I'm using 2 thumbs and two fingers with single setup since very first day and it's working like a charm.
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Nice trick, but accuracy is'nt a matter of speed, it is a matter of safety
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Just try you will not loose any accuracy..
I'm using this trick my FP is fast as it was with one fingerprint
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its true, you dont lose accurancy.
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Fast, yes, ofc this has nothing to do with speed. But you have less inputs to compare scan to, so there's higher chance that sensor won't recognize your finger.
There is a reason they want you to input same finger many times - so you scan it from all angles. If you scan multiple different fingers simultaneously, that means you'll scan each of those finger less times (from less angles), which will give you worse accuracy.
If you always put the finger the same way on your scanner then good, you won't have trouble.
But I sometimes (rarely, but still) manage to get a failed scan even though I "correctly" set up my finger ... It just happens. And with this trick I'm pretty sure those situations would be more common.
Besides, I'm quite happy with only 4 fingerprints set up, don't see a reason why I would need more. Only if I wanted multiple persons to have access to my phone.
If I got myself into a rare situation when I can't use any of my set fingers, there's always the backup option (pattern/PIN/password).
Just my 2 cents
Still a good discovery, glad that it helps some
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No offence but this is just a theory but in day to day usage ulu won't find any difference.. because I'm using FP sensor with this trick and thers were not even a non recognizable sign popped up.. but as you said if always you put the finger same way on the scanner (i do this) so for me this methods works pretty well.. And ya who wants more than five finger registered :laugh: but ya it can save time in registering the fingers..
Though thanks for the thorough response :good:
The fingerprint scanner on the Nokia 9 is terrible! Seems to only read it 20% of the time. I use face unlock sometimes which is nice but I can't always hold phone up to face. Tempted to just use smart lock with my android wear watch but there goes my security. May end up trying to add fingerprints again for a 3rd time...
Mine almost always works, but I have to apply some pressure to it. It's not like most other in-display readers that work with just resting your finger on the screen.
I have each thumb trained twice on it.
It fails completely with a glass screen protector (at least for me).
Worst scanner. Works 50 percent or less and with multiple scans of same fingerprint. Utterly useless.Ar least the Galaxy S10 plus was fixed with updates and my success rate is 90% + on that phone.
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It's a painful fingerprint scanner, but I've found a way to make it reliable. Not necessarily convenient, but reliable..
Before scanning, I lick my thumb of index finger lightly, then run them together leaving them just slightly damp (just enough so they don't slide smoothly across the phone screen), then touch firmly, but certainly not hard, on the sensor patch.
Works almost first time every time. I also used this same method when training the prints.
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It's a painful fingerprint scanner, but I've found a way to make it reliable. Not necessarily convenient, but reliable..
Before scanning, I lick my thumb of index finger lightly, then run them together leaving them just slightly damp (just enough so they don't slide smoothly across the phone screen), then touch firmly, but certainly not hard, on the sensor patch.
Works almost first time every time. I also used this same method when training the prints.
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Do you know where that thumb has been since the last time you licked it??? :silly: :silly: :laugh: :laugh:
I received my phone yesterday. My fingerprint scanner seems to work just fine. There are a couple times where it did take a couple tries, but it's been nothing like I've been reading. I'm perfectly content with it. I'll also add that it's been working just as well for me with a plastic screen protector on it.
You guys never had a xiaomi mi 5s. If so, you would not complain about fingerprint scanner ?
I've had about a 75% success rate with the fingerprint scanner. I set it up in a dark room and registered both thumbs and index fingers. There are times when it won't read my fingerprint at all, which seems to be software related. Other times, it will say not recognized. In those cases, I've tried to place my hand over my phone as if I'm covering my PIN at the ATM, creating a bit of a shadow or darkness over the fingerprint area of the screen and then trying it, which seems to work a lot more often. Covering it with the other hand might be a fluke, but I am able to repeat the results again and again.
Edit: I deleted my post, because it was not repeatable. Whatever the software issue is, its too intermittent to isolate through physical means alone. Someone with programming knowledge though should be able to see what might be causing the problem and provide some insight on a workaround until then.
Right now for me, it seems to work when its being charged and battery saver seems to affect its success rate.
for me it depends on the situation, sometimes it doesn't work at all. Things like temp etc seems to be influencing the succes rate. my xz3 has a reader at the back and it doesn't work sometimes as well. they are equal in reliability. But if you are used to a Huawei (like the mate 9) it is terrible. I really had to adjust when I got the XZ3 (coming from a mate 9).
I received mine this morning and it performed a system update out of the box.
I put a glass screen protector on the phone straight away and I've had some success with using the fingerprint reader, although not so much that I would like to use it all the time.
These are my observations so far,
- The 'press harder' message is deceptive. I have never got it to work by pressing harder when it tells me to press harder in a spot where my thumb/finger already is. Instead if I use that as a cue to re-position my thumb/finger then I have much more success. When it works, I have never had to press hard at all.
- It doesn't like my thumb very much. It takes some time to find the right position with my thumb, where as my forefinger is fine.
Update: 16:14
I've been persisting with it and have found the right amount of pressure to make it work more consistently. The message on the screen says press a little harder, and pressing it to the point where it flattens your skin out against the screen makes the chance of success better.
Moseman, i did everything you did, unfortunately its a software issue. You are right about the 'press harder' message, its not true. You don't need to press hard at all to get it to work, which i have been able to test successfully. The issue is not about pressure, its about placement. You must place your finger in the exact position that you placed it when you did the first half of the enrollment. Interestingly, i've noticed that apps that use the finger print reader as part of their login, seem to work much better. Such as ADP app or Bank apps.
You will notice that it probably works better while on charger, and works terrible with battery saver on. I tried many ways to find a workaround to get it to work consistently, but eventually it goes back to working 10% of the time. I believe they will create a fix here soon.
I've heard the face scanner login works much better. GL!
I got a good working scan by holding the phone in landscape mode while learning the scan. Might be coincidence , but i figured since the scanner is the shape of a flat rectangle it might cover more of my finger that way. (in normal use i just unlock in portrait mode, i just did the landscape thing to learn the fingerprint)
Interesting. I will try your method and see what i get. Will post an update later. Thanks Bk227865.
*Update: The method does appear to be working somewhat better. I will have to keep testing. Thanks.
*Update2: I don't know why im obsessed with getting this working. But BK you gave me an idea.
So after trying your method, i wondered if enrollment was the issue. Perhaps i wasn't doing it right, and maybe someone else did do it right, so let me know if you did the following.
I deleted all enrollments and tried again, this time with battery saver off (just to rule anything out related to that). I also made sure that my finger placement was exactly as described in the training photo. Originally and before, i had placed the edge of my fingerprints to the edge of the scanner, but actually it wants you to place the middle part on the scanner.
So when i re-enrolled using the exact finger placement the picture showed, it didn't work 100% of the time, but i do get somewhat better overall success with different finger placements.
Anyone willing to test this out?
Sliksta said:
Interesting. I will try your method and see what i get. Will post an update later. Thanks Bk227865.
*Update: The method does appear to be working somewhat better. I will have to keep testing. Thanks.
*Update2: I don't know why im obsessed with getting this working. But BK you gave me an idea.
So after trying your method, i wondered if enrollment was the issue. Perhaps i wasn't doing it right, and maybe someone else did do it right, so let me know if you did the following.
I deleted all enrollments and tried again, this time with battery saver off (just to rule anything out related to that). I also made sure that my finger placement was exactly as described in the training photo. Originally and before, i had placed the edge of my fingerprints to the edge of the scanner, but actually it wants you to place the middle part on the scanner.
So when i re-enrolled using the exact finger placement the picture showed, it didn't work 100% of the time, but i do get somewhat better overall success with different finger placements.
Anyone willing to test this out?
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I can vouch for this, great discovery, Sliksta! :good:
UPDATE:
After further experimenting, it seems like the results are only slightly better and this is not a permanent solution.
Wow. Really improved! Almost 8/10 now
The way I did it was placing my thumb in different angles from the beginning. Don't have a lot of troubles with it. Some times the light just doesn't switch on. Direct sunlight doesn't help its accuracy. Wet fingers doesn't help as well. But I would say mostly it works
Thanks all and Chaosdark for testing. I still believe that battery saver somehow effects the consistency of its accuracy. I would say it works more often than not with battery saver off. This might be the inconsistency you are experiencing. Can you/anyone confirm it works better w/ battery saver off?
Today I think I've found something interesting, if you go to verification option in the fingerprint section under security and touch the FP scanner to verify which fingerprint enrollment belongs to which finger, I have found that it detects and identifies the fingerprints enrolled easily and quickly and doesn't ask you to press harder as often as on lockscreen ( needs more testing from other users).
This results makes me hopeful that a software fix is possible and in the making according to Nokia CEO how vaguely suggested there will be a fix in an upcoming update.
What do you guys think?
stiebs said:
It's a painful fingerprint scanner, but I've found a way to make it reliable. Not necessarily convenient, but reliable..
Before scanning, I lick my thumb of index finger lightly, then run them together leaving them just slightly damp (just enough so they don't slide smoothly across the phone screen), then touch firmly, but certainly not hard, on the sensor patch.
Works almost first time every time. I also used this same method when training the prints.
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This works 100% without pressing harder
Incredible