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I read this demo from Droid-Life about the Ambient Display feature of the Nexus 6:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...-display-is-a-very-cool-take-on-moto-display/
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
So, this supposed to replace the LED notification that we all knew already.
My question: When the phone receives a notification, the display will lit on showing the notification.
That's good.
But, for how long it is displayed?
I meant, I recall with LED notification, I could see it for quite long until I noticed that I got a notification.
Will the ambient display, display the "new" notification until we "touch" the display OR interact with it?
That would be ideal.
Anyone know?
Yep, it will appear each ca. 5 seconds for ca. 2 secs until you´ve marked it as read (or until battery is empty ).
So for me it´s kind of an smarter / advanced LED replacement
Only drawback is that it only makes sense with AMOLED display (Which we know the N6 is equipped with).
So, when a new notification came in ...
The ambient display will display the notification for 2 seconds ... then OFF ... then 5 seconds later appear for 2 seconds ... then OFF ...
Repeat the above until the notification is marked as read ... or the battery has run out.
Correct?
If yes, then I think this is better!
Sorry, now I´m not 100% sure anymore as I´ve seen your linked video. I thought that Google implements it like Moto indeeds blinks as I described, but on the N6 it seems to light up only (1x) on arrival of new notifications or if you pick up the phone. Fingers crossed that N6 will get kind of a permanent blinking mode.
Android police has a nice video showing this feature. The notifications do light up periodically after they come in. Something like every 5-10 seconds until you dismiss them. Picking it up does light the ambient display as well, but they will 'pulse' on their own.
Nice, was wondering how it will work. To me better then the led.
I wonder if dynamic notifications from the play store would work better in this situation.
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biggiestuff said:
I wonder if dynamic notifications from the play store would work better in this situation.
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Have you used this on an amoled screen before? I'm curious the battery usage on it.
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Have you used this on an amoled screen before? I'm curious the battery usage on it.
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This is the response I got from the developer. I've used it on my nexus 5 before and it didn't seem to make a huge impact on battery life but the nexus 5 doesn't have an amoled screen. I imagine on they nexus 6 that it would be less of a battery hog than the ambient display.
thanks for your message! The app automatically uses the low-powered motion detection chips on newer handsets. The allocation of computing tasks to low-powered processor cores is, to the best of my knowledge, performed automatically by the system depending on the situation, so I would imagine that the app does make use of them, as it is frequently in the background and doesn’t do any “heavy lifting”. The CPU/memory footprint of the app is minimal, as it doesn’t constantly query for new notifications, but is provided with them as they come in by the Android system.
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biggiestuff said:
This is the response I got from the developer. I've used it on my nexus 5 before and it didn't seem to make a huge impact on battery life but the nexus 5 doesn't have an amoled screen. I imagine on they nexus 6 that it would be less of a battery hog than the ambient display.
thanks for your message! The app automatically uses the low-powered motion detection chips on newer handsets. The allocation of computing tasks to low-powered processor cores is, to the best of my knowledge, performed automatically by the system depending on the situation, so I would imagine that the app does make use of them, as it is frequently in the background and doesn’t do any “heavy lifting”. The CPU/memory footprint of the app is minimal, as it doesn’t constantly query for new notifications, but is provided with them as they come in by the Android system.
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Thanks. I'm gong to have to try this out on n7 and n5 just to see.
gtalum said:
Android police has a nice video showing this feature. The notifications do light up periodically after they come in. Something like every 5-10 seconds until you dismiss them. Picking it up does light the ambient display as well, but they will 'pulse' on their own.
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Can't seem to find that video
With Ambient Display turned on and NO unread notifications, does the screen still light up when the phone is picked up (because that would be bad from my point of view)?
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
mlapaglia said:
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Half the time mine doesn't even come on when picked up.
mlapaglia said:
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Yep, that's exactly how it works for me too! The good thing though is that it lights up 98% of the time so I don't have any major complaints about it.
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Do you not like looking at your phone and without having to interact with it know that you have a notification?
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Do you not like looking at your phone and without having to interact with it know that you have a notification?
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I have not gotten a "pulse" on it yet...it lights up when a notification comes in, and "breathes" a few times...but it seems to stop after minute or two...I don't see any settings to control this either.
I'd like to have a definitive understanding of exactly how it will function...
I did see the vid and from what i get out of it, sometimes when you pick up the phone the notification lights up, sometimes it doesnt. Not to mention, accelerometer/gyroscope sensor would need to be active at all times for ambient display to work.
A clear case of "if it isn't broken, don't f'king fix it."
I found that ambient display is useless.
I was thinking that whenever I got notification, the ambient display will lit the screen and then OFF ... then lit ... then OFF.
You know, kind of asking attention.
It is NOT.
It lit ONCE, then OFF forever, until I pick up the phone (of course).
The problem with this, if I leave the phone on my desk for quite long, I won't know if there was notification arrived, unless I pick up the phone.
So, what's the use of this ambient display?
Damn, LED notification would be much useful!
gogol said:
I found that ambient display is useless.
I was thinking that whenever I got notification, the ambient display will lit the screen and then OFF ... then lit ... then OFF.
You know, kind of asking attention.
It is NOT.
It lit ONCE, then OFF forever, until I pick up the phone (of course).
The problem with this, if I leave the phone on my desk for quite long, I won't know if there was notification arrived, unless I pick up the phone.
So, what's the use of this ambient display?
Damn, LED notification would be much useful!
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So you can either see the notification come in first time when it lights up. Or you can quickly pick the phone up to see if there are any notifications without it fully waking up.
LED is easier though!
I prefer they don't lit it on and off constantly because it is distracting when you are in a meeting and it drains your battery. Though having an option would be nice
Yeah, I agree it is a useless battery wasting feature (though the impact to battery is minimal). Thankfully the LED can be enabled with Light Flow even though that is flawed as well since the app will randomly get killed and the light won't work.
Ambient Display would be perfect if it flashed continuously until you check it and if it worked in priority mode, which it doesn't if you have priority mode set up like the old silent mode. If you don't want your phone making noise or vibrating but still need to see notifications it is pretty worthless.
you are dead on sir.
gogol said:
I found that ambient display is useless.
I was thinking that whenever I got notification, the ambient display will lit the screen and then OFF ... then lit ... then OFF.
You know, kind of asking attention.
It is NOT.
It lit ONCE, then OFF forever, until I pick up the phone (of course).
The problem with this, if I leave the phone on my desk for quite long, I won't know if there was notification arrived, unless I pick up the phone.
So, what's the use of this ambient display?
Damn, LED notification would be much useful!
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I was told Google is moving away from using led notification, but yet they designed a phone? with one built in but totally useless at this point. Hopefully the next update will address this.
Mine flashes continually until I check things... Every ten seconds or so. It is wonderful... Not sure what is up with your guys' one time notifications...
ambient display is alrite.... It doesn't work that well though. It does not consistently work when you pick up the phone. I would much rather have them activate the LED since it's already there.
you. me. and many more
tsy87 said:
ambient display is alrite.... It doesn't work that well though. It does not consistently work when you pick up the phone. I would much rather have them activate the LED since it's already there.
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I'm setting this gripe in many circles outside of xda hopefully they will address it in the next update. Lots of corporate people want that portion which was always a part of android and even non android phones of the past.
EmperorX said:
Mine flashes continually until I check things... Every ten seconds or so. It is wonderful... Not sure what is up with your guys' one time notifications...
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So does mine
vvveith said:
I was told Google is moving away from using led notification, but yet they designed a phone? with one built in but totally useless at this point. Hopefully the next update will address this.
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in all fairness, Moto made the phone, whether for Android Silver or whatever other reason, it wasnt designed ground up with Google or originally planned as a Nexus.
I like ambient. Works great for me. and being an Amoled display, only the pixels being used light up, so battery is minimal
users report otherwise.
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in all fairness, Moto made the phone, whether for Android Silver or whatever other reason, it wasnt designed ground up with Google or originally planned as a Nexus.
I like ambient. Works great for me. and being an Amoled display, only the pixels being used light up, so battery is minimal
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Acording to the battery threads I've read, ambient display sucks battery.
mzimand said:
So does mine
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What are you guys using? Lightflow?
vvveith said:
Acording to the battery threads I've read, ambient display sucks battery.
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Does the device wake up from deep sleep for it? If yes it sure does suck a lot of battery. Especially if it is supposed to flash up in intervals to remind you of the notification.
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What are you guys using? Lightflow?
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I just tested it... it flashes up every 30 seconds or so. As soon as as you click on it the screen is on without any delay. So I guess it screws your battery hard by making it wake up each time? It would mean that as soon as you have a notification your device would wake up every 30 seconds.
I can't get Lightflow to work at all. Do you need a kernel that has LED support?
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What are you guys using? Lightflow?
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I am just using the regular ambient feature built into the stock rom. I am encrypted, rooted with stock kernel on stock 5.0.1. I have not messed with any AOSP roms .
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I can't get Lightflow to work at all. Do you need a kernel that has LED support?
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Rooted and use root access for the LED activated in Lightflow.
Lightflow screws up ambient tough. It constantly flashes as if it has an notification, even if it only shows the clock. This WILL kill your battery in my opinion...
Led notification will drain batttery fast?
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I actually like it more than Active Display. Active was much more sensitive to movements which for really annoying.
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Alienfreak said:
Rooted and use root access for the LED activated in Lightflow.
Lightflow screws up ambient tough. It constantly flashes as if it has an notification, even if it only shows the clock. This WILL kill your battery in my opinion...
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I don't know what settings you set to make it do that.
Light Flow doesn't do that here. Cooperates fine with Ambient.
I know there are people (Lightflow Dev) who are working on getting the built-in led working, and I think that's great. I wonder if there are any devs working on making Ambient Display more useful...? I'm going to shut off the Ambient Display today and mess around with an app I used to use on the Galaxy S called NoLed. It puts dots or icons on the screen and could notify me of anything... might be the ticket here.
Hello dear xda-community,
I just returned from my vacation to Mexico. Whilst being there and taking pictures I encountered a very strange dilemma with the display and the brightness-automatic of the P10: Even if I deactivated the automatic screen-brightness, the system shaded when shooting pictures in the bright sunlight. Which resulted in a barely seeable screen, whereby the S7 of my girlfriend provided a sharp and bright screen.
I really wonder what caused this strange behaviour, and if anyone of you experienced a similar behaviour? I really don't get it why a feature still works when it's deactivated -__-
Thanks, cheerz
J
did no one experience this issue?
I experienced this, too.
But mostly I got it working with manual focus.
The most annoying thing is that the colors are a bit darken with bright sunlight, even if the sun isn't in the picture. The colors seems to be faded, the saturation is very low. See the attachment, the smaller prop plane is blue in reality but on this photo it looks like black, like the background buildings, too.
Hello Janno,
my issue is not with the postproduction, but with the lightsensor which is shading the whole display (even if this option has been disabled)
Thanks for your reply though, I chose a bad headline
Um getting this issue too... After about 10mins in the bright sun light the phone dims...even when i turn off automatic brightness and increase the brightness level it wont work...i think its a flaw on oreo update...when using nougat this never encountered
Jebbel said:
Hello Janno,
my issue is not with the postproduction, but with the lightsensor which is shading the whole display (even if this option has been disabled)
Thanks for your reply though, I chose a bad headline
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I guess it has something todo with the device temperature - Have the same behavior while using navigation :x
hm... not sure if it's really temperature-driven, since in the lockscreen no dimming took place and the display was shining in brightest and good readable colors.
Jebbel said:
hm... not sure if it's really temperature-driven, since in the lockscreen no dimming took place and the display was shining in brightest and good readable colors.
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Yeah thats true...
Its a bug in the display, you can turn it off in developer options but it still occurs. I think B365 has a fix for it
is B365 a user here?
Thanks for the help
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is B365 a user here?
Thanks for the help
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B365 is an Oreo update.
I am pretty sure it is temperature issue, had it on oreo 360 and 365 after update. It happens while I am driving with navigation (waze)and charging and direct sunlight on the device. Then I take the p10 and place it in front of the air conditioner opening for 30 seconds and everything is ok.
Chillkroete_ said:
I guess it has something todo with the device temperature - Have the same behavior while using navigation :x
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So for me, it has something todo with the device temperature. I bought a new phone holder, which is placed in front of the Ventilation and my display didnt changed the brigthness anymore ?
Same problem
In application's it get dark even you have automatic switched off. This issue is a really annoying and looks like connected with temperature.
My P10 was/is on B365 as this issue happened. Just got it back today from repairs, of course they found nothing^^
So it seems really to be a software-issue. Any way to fix this?
Hi guys, a question: setting the brightness manual, you noticed by chance if entering some Apps like Facebook, Gmail etc the same is lowered and then return to the set value when you leave? Thanks to those who will answer
Nobody knows the problem?
Mines a bit dodgy too. To me seems like it doesnt dim unless i turn it down to about 20%. 20-70 doesnt seem to dim or get brighter.
Unsturdy said:
Mines a bit dodgy too. To me seems like it doesnt dim unless i turn it down to about 20%. 20-70 doesnt seem to dim or get brighter.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I notice that the manual set brightness is lowered when I enter the Facebook app for example.
frusso3 said:
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I notice that the manual set brightness is lowered when I enter the Facebook app for example.
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Well if like me you're on c782, good luck getting a fix in the UK. Networks have to verify the updates for my model.. doesnt happen.
I've been having some issues with manual brightness. Sometimes it takes setting the brightness twice (dragging the knob a bit to have it actually change brightness) , and less often automatic brightness will turn itself back on.
rashad1 said:
I've been having some issues with manual brightness. Sometimes it takes setting the brightness twice (dragging the knob a bit to have it actually change brightness) , and less often automatic brightness will turn itself back on.
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Thats exactly what i get.
Auto brightness re-enables on every reboot. Huawei say its normal. I say its a mistake they cant be bothered to fix.
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Well if like me you're on c782, good luck getting a fix in the UK. Networks have to verify the updates for my model.. doesnt happen.
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Why is it like this here? I bought it out of contract and now I'm getting aware that since I've put a Vodafone sim in it, I need to wait for their updates. What's the point in buying it sim free then???
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Federicadr said:
Why is it like this here? I bought it out of contract and now I'm getting aware that since I've put a Vodafone sim in it, I need to wait for their updates. What's the point in buying it sim free then???
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Its a deal they have with networks, it auto brands as soon as you add the sim. Only way around it is to install the C432 firmware which is eu but not too sure how good that would be in the UK
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Well if like me you're on c782, good luck getting a fix in the UK. Networks have to verify the updates for my model.. doesnt happen.
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No, c781. The firmware release will be long, always as they want to fix the bug.
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No, c781. The firmware release will be long, always as they want to fix the bug.
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No, thats not why it takes so long. C432 is getting monthly security patches.
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Hi guys, a question: setting the brightness manual, you noticed by chance if entering some Apps like Facebook, Gmail etc the same is lowered and then return to the set value when you leave? Thanks to those who will answer
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I am new to the Huawei environment, and I noticed this too...my OCD is quite relentless, so I noticed this straight away...I just don't know whether it is a feature for bright background apps...or a glitch...but it is there...so I checked the Auto Brightness box to stop it!
I just got my Mate 20 Lite through amazon, but I noticed something weird with the notification LED.. it looks a bit out of place to the right, is this normal?
Should I ask for a refund?
Here are some pictures of the issue.
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eNkk. said:
I just got my Mate 20 Lite through amazon, but I noticed something weird with the notification LED.. it looks a bit out of place to the right, is this normal?
Should I ask for a refund?
Here are some pictures of the issue.
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I got the same. I bought the phone in mediaexpert. I think its a normal. Nothing to worry about.
Slawek1995 said:
I got the same. I bought the phone in mediaexpert. I think its a normal. Nothing to worry about.
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Wow, this makes no sense, the phone was perfect but that just ruined it.. can't even see it in the dark.. I always use my phone on silent and really needed that feature..
Lol my led is on the left in the speaker grill
The LED should be on the right of the speaker grill - it's meant to be that way, but is very dim. However, a recent firmware update increased the LED's brightness (not by much).
Btw, the LED is actually RGB (controller and diode) but Huawei disabled that function, for some reason. You can get RBG functionality back by using third-party apps.
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The LED should be on the right of the speaker grill - it's meant to be that way, but is very dim..
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I wonder why they've made such a dumb decision..
That is the correct place. Huawei always have put the LED in stranges places...
Anyway, just be glad that Mate 20 even have a LED. Many phones doesn't come with that...
tonemapped said:
The LED should be on the right of the speaker grill - it's meant to be that way, but is very dim. However, a recent firmware update increased the LED's brightness (not by much).
Btw, the LED is actually RGB (controller and diode) but Huawei disabled that function, for some reason. You can get RBG functionality back by using third-party apps.
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Mind telling the apps?
Not sure if they disabled to make it more visible
Yup, it's supposed to be like that. A stupid move if you ask me. Going from an Honor 8 (has the LED in its speaker grill too but it's very bright) to this was a shock. In daylight you can't even see it.
Frau Son said:
In daylight you can't even see it.
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You can't even see the LED if you're looking from the right of the phone..
tonemapped said:
The LED should be on the right of the speaker grill - it's meant to be that way, but is very dim. However, a recent firmware update increased the LED's brightness (not by much).
Btw, the LED is actually RGB (controller and diode) but Huawei disabled that function, for some reason. You can get RBG functionality back by using third-party apps.
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wich app??
eNkk. said:
You can't even see the LED if you're looking from the right of the phone..
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You can even barely see the LED in the dark.
gerardolan64 said:
wich app??
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This one worked for me: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koo.lightmanager3
You can test every color, you can specify your own ones, but you can only test it, with screen turned off.