40mp mode removed from night mode on EMUI 9.1 - Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

Anyone still on EMUI 9? can anyone give me 40 mp night mode vs normal on low light condition? i haven't save it yet
The emui 9.1 remove 40mp from night mode , why huawei remove their top feature? the night mode can't replicated with pro mode, it takes multiple frame to remove noise, bring up brightness and detail. Using these with 40mp is awesome and make low light shot with 40mp useable, also this feature is only on huawei other 48mp does not give night mode on 48mp mode CMIIW

It has wide angle and zoom, which don't operate at the 40 mp setting.

yes, but before i can change to 40mp and choose night mode so the 40mp res can have better useable image in low light. The 40mp mode by itself is capable taking pictures on the night as long there's enough light, with the help with night mode it capable to take any picture in various condition
and the wide angle night mode is 10mp only now, before on EMUI 9 it was fully 20mp, still the wide angle camera is nothing to write about,it have different league with the 40mp sensor

amdultra said:
Anyone still on EMUI 9? can anyone give me 40 mp night mode vs normal on low light condition? i haven't save it yet
The emui 9.1 remove 40mp from night mode , why huawei remove their top feature? the night mode can't replicated with pro mode, it takes multiple frame to remove noise, bring up brightness and detail. Using these with 40mp is awesome and make low light shot with 40mp useable, also this feature is only on huawei other 48mp does not give night mode on 48mp mode CMIIW
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In Emui 9.0 night mode have only 10MPX option not 40MPX

In night mode at any resolution you have only 10MP. The same is valid for Aperture and Portrait modes. There is no difference between 9 and 9.1 about this.
The camera, in addition to the slightly changed interface, generally has positive changes in the quality of the photos.
1. AI is less aggressive, the colors in AI mode are more natural than before. But in general, Auto mode without AI, Night and HDR seem to me closest to reality.
2. The night mode seems to me more realistic and the colors do not appear so yellowish
3. Zooming is smoother. Unfortunately, the zoom controls are still only on the right side when shooting in portrait mode and this is not so convenient for those holding the phone with the left hand. 30x zooming is usable if the phone is completely motionless, otherwise it is blurry.
4. HDR is slightly softer with less sharpening (probably cons for someone)
5. On a wide-angle camera the noise at darker pictures is less. But it still seems to me that the wide angle camera behaves better in the P30 Pro, although the hardware is the same. Generally, with a wide-angle camera, photos with AI included are brighter than those turned off

techops said:
In night mode at any resolution you have only 10MP. The same is valid for Aperture and Portrait modes. There is no difference between 9 and 9.1 about this.
The camera, in addition to the slightly changed interface, generally has positive changes in the quality of the photos.
1. AI is less aggressive, the colors in AI mode are more natural than before. But in general, Auto mode without AI, Night and HDR seem to me closest to reality.
2. The night mode seems to me more realistic and the colors do not appear so yellowish
3. Zooming is smoother. Unfortunately, the zoom controls are still only on the right side when shooting in portrait mode and this is not so convenient for those holding the phone with the left hand. 30x zooming is usable if the phone is completely motionless, otherwise it is blurry.
4. HDR is slightly softer with less sharpening (probably cons for someone)
5. On a wide-angle camera the noise at darker pictures is less. But it still seems to me that the wide angle camera behaves better in the P30 Pro, although the hardware is the same. Generally, with a wide-angle camera, photos with AI included are brighter than those turned off
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nope, there's 40mp size for night mode, there's other people confirming the same issue. You can use 40mp and choose night mode and your photo will still 40mp with the help of dark mode

10 mp night mode only on my mate 20 pro emui 9

amdultra said:
nope, there's 40mp size for night mode, there's other people confirming the same issue. You can use 40mp and choose night mode and your photo will still 40mp with the help of dark mode
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Wrong. Never available night mode and 40 Mpix

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Is there a way to force the zoom lens at lower light?

The question is simple.
Sometimes it switches back and forth from the zoom lens to the main one and vice versa in lower light conditions.
Would be nice to have the option to manually select which one we want. Even tho the conditions are a bit darker the image would still look better with the zoom lens tho.
Btw I love the phone. Awesome piece of tech.
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Photone69 said:
The question is simple.
Sometimes it switches back and forth from the zoom lens to the main one and vice versa in lower light conditions.
Would be nice to have the option to manually select which one we want. Even tho the conditions are a bit darker the image would still look better with the zoom lens tho.
Btw I love the phone. Awesome piece of tech.
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Any zoom at 10X plus, it switches.
shollywood said:
Any zoom at 10X plus, it switches.
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I'm mainly talking about the 5x optical one. In lower light it can switch to the other lens. It's more apparent with it's switching back and forth.
Photone69 said:
The question is simple.
Sometimes it switches back and forth from the zoom lens to the main one and vice versa in lower light conditions.
Would be nice to have the option to manually select which one we want. Even tho the conditions are a bit darker the image would still look better with the zoom lens tho.
Btw I love the phone. Awesome piece of tech.
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I found a way to trick it and switch to the zoom lense in low light conditions, zoom in to 5.1 instead of 5 and it will trigger the zoom lens.
I would also advise you to use the night mode while zooming in conditions where light isn't that sufficient.
Here are three images that I just took to show the difference. One is at x5 zoom, which used the regular lens, then at 5.1 which triggered the zoom lens, then also at 5.1 but in night mode.
Maher.k22 said:
I found a way to trick it and switch to the zoom lense in low light conditions, zoom in to 5.1 instead of 5 and it will trigger the zoom lens.
I would also advise you to use the night mode while zooming in conditions where light isn't that sufficient.
Here are three images that I just took to show the difference. One is at x5 zoom, which used the regular lens, then at 5.1 which triggered the zoom lens, then also at 5.1 but in night mode.
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Very useful. Thank you!
I tried that solution, but it still doesn't force it to change the lens. This happens on video as well. Any other suggestions??
soldier16 said:
I tried that solution, but it still doesn't force it to change the lens. This happens on video as well. Any other suggestions??
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In like really really low light conditions, it won't work as the zoom lens becomes useless, unless you switch to x10 zoom.
As for videos, make sure you're not using 1080 60fps,because even during daytime, the camera will never switch to the zoom lens, as it's not capable of shooting at 60 fps.
Yeah its still very hit or miss even in night mode. I'll be in a well lit room and zoom in one of the objects. It'll start off with the perdicope lens and then switch back to the other one. The picture quality is very different from both
It switches back and forth due to lighting availability when it focused on the subject.
If light is not enough, the 5x optical zoom will shift into digital zoom because the 3.5 aperture will be dark enough to produce good photos and the main camera with 1.6 aperture will take over. It is just like how samsung shifts its camera mode during night shot where its telephoto lens was taken over by main camera due to poor lighting condition.
Try to shoot it both (digital and optical)and you'll see on the exif file that it is shifting camera mode, one is with 1.6f and the other one is with 3.4f.
Based on my observation during a good lighting condition, the camera is doing the following:
1x to 4.9x is digital zoom (using main camera)
5x optical zoom (using periscope camera)
5.1x to 10x is hybrid lossless zoom (using periscope)
10.1x-50x digital zoom (using periscope)
For pictures in pro mode you can enable raw file and it will restrict you to only optical which will force the 5x zoom lens but you can't use any digital zooming
Maybe in pro mode using tripod and long exposure time
Thats weird, I have never seen my model switch lens without my input.
Is it supposed to?
Saying that zoomed pictures in lowlight is a processing nightmare, they come out looking like drawings
Install this, select CAM 5 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lensesdev.manual.camera.pro
Maher.k22 said:
I found a way to trick it and switch to the zoom lense in low light conditions, zoom in to 5.1 instead of 5 and it will trigger the zoom lens.
I would also advise you to use the night mode while zooming in conditions where light isn't that sufficient.
Here are three images that I just took to show the difference. One is at x5 zoom, which used the regular lens, then at 5.1 which triggered the zoom lens, then also at 5.1 but in night mode.
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I found out that using the periscope camera at night or in low-light environments, for example, with 50x zoom, the Automatic Mode produces better overall quality photos than with Night Mode or HDR Mode. Maybe the Automatic Mode makes a better use/control of the periscope sensor OIS.
PS: loving the Aperture Mode - it produces DSLR-style photos with a short depth of field
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7UIS said:
I found out that using the periscope camera at night or in low-light environments, for example, with 50x zoom, the Automatic Mode produces better overall quality photos than with Night Mode or HDR Mode. Maybe the Automatic Mode makes a better use/control of the periscope sensor OIS.
PS: loving the Aperture Mode - it produces DSLR-style photos with a short depth of field
☀ Sent from SUN
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Not really because if you can shoot with periscope camera in manual mode, increasing the shutter speed you can reach result that cannot reach with prime sensor
Actually distance between the subject and phone also matters. If the camera is not able to focus at a subject properly it will shift to regular lens. The focal length of telephoto lens is different and requires some distance to trigger. Also if you want to force the telephoto lens to shoot then use Pro Mode.
In my opinion distance plays a more important role in switching to telephoto lens.
Reeb_Lam said:
Actually distance between the subject and phone also matters. If the camera is not able to focus at a subject properly it will shift to regular lens. The focal length of telephoto lens is different and requires some distance to trigger. Also if you want to force the telephoto lens to shoot then use Pro Mode.
In my opinion distance plays a more important role in switching to telephoto lens.
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Looks like you need to enable RAW in Pro Mode to force the Telephoto sensor on zoom, otherwise it still defaults to the 40mp sensor if the subject is too close / it thinks it will get a better result
You can see if it has changed to telephoto by opening settings once it has zoomed, the max rez displayed of the sensor, also it will not allow digital zoom
*Detection* said:
Looks like you need to enable RAW in Pro Mode to force the Telephoto sensor on zoom, otherwise it still defaults to the 40mp sensor if the subject is too close / it thinks it will get a better result
You can see if it has changed to telephoto by opening settings once it has zoomed, the max rez displayed of the sensor, also it will not allow digital zoom
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The quality of RAW mood is less better, you can do some tests

optical zoom in low light conditions

hi, plz who can confirms this, does optical zoom work in low light conditions?
Unfortunately no. It switches to software based zoom in low light. I wish there was a way to control this yourself as I think it turns to software zoom a bit to quickly.
i don't know why, zoomed pictures from concerts seems to be done through periscope lens, even though, light condition is low.
what do you think
Just switch to pro mode if you want to force optical zoom, however the sensor used for the periscope doesn't capture much light. Therefore it is a little hard to capture sharp pictures hand held.
This is a night shot with the periscope :
i hope so

Photo's colours change when zoomed in.

Has anyone ever had the issue whilst taking a photo zoomed in as the photo goes to take the colours almost desaturate. I've noticed this on both EMUI 9.1 and 10.
The reason for this is because when switching to 10x zoom and beyond, the phone changes to a different lens and sensor set. The zoom lens sensor is not the same as the standard sensor and will detect colours differently.

XZ2 Camera Tripod Mod Bug [52.1.A.2.1]

I have noticed an issue with the stock camera app in auto mode for low light situations.
My understanding is that the camera has a couple of auto detect features for low light situations.
-The generic "low light" / night scene indicator
-The tripod mode, where a small tripod icon appears when you put the camera on a surface to keep it still.
As far as I am aware, the two modes should work as follows:
- When low light is detected, and the camera is being held in hand, ISO should be prioritised and shutter speeds kept sensible to avoid motion induced blur. For example, 1/8 second, 12,800 ISO.
- When both low light and a tripod/still phone is detected, Shutter Speed should be prioritised. For example, 1 second exposure at 1600 ISO.
This is not happening for me. Tripod mode behaves exactly the same as low light mode, so even if you have the little tripod icon showing, and it's low light, shutter speed remains high and ISO at max.
I did a test scene, and, in auto mode it chose 12,800 ISO at 1/8s. In tripod and low light mode it was exactly the same. When I went into manual mode, I set the speed to 1s and 3600 ISO and got a great, sharp, and bright picture. What's going on?
Thanks.

Question [SOLVED] Anyone with some problems when using Pro mode with manual focus to take macro shots?

I just can't get it to focus on near objects using the Pro Mode of the camera. The green indicator on the scene is too far for a macro shot. I tried with the main and the ultra wide camera and same result.
EDIT: Just confirmed that the focus distance for macro is indeed worse comparing to my old S9+ Pro mode but the Focus adjustment on the main camera without Pro mode compensates a lot for macro shooting.

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