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Could someone who has the Nokia 8 comment on the quality of the audio recording the OZO system? Especially compared to other modern phones like note 8 HTC U11 LG V30? It's hard to find this kind of comparisons because the phone is not available in many countries...
I'm looking to buy a new phone and these two are top of my list because I want a stock android experience. Nokia 8 is around 30 USD more expensive from where I live. Does the Snapdragon 835 really outperform the 821 and is it worth paying the extra bucks? for whose who have used both, which phone is better in terms of user experience in your opinion? also, have you faced any major issues with the Android 8.1 update on the Nokia 8?
The pixel has the better camera and is significantly faster/smoother, gets quicker updates and has AMOLED if you are into that. The sound quality is also better on the pixel compared to the Nokia 8.
The Nokia 8 has expandable storage and longer battery endurance compared to the pixel 2.
Choose which of these things are more important to you.
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I'm looking to buy a new phone and these two are top of my list because I want a stock android experience. Nokia 8 is around 30 USD more expensive from where I live. Does the Snapdragon 835 really outperform the 821 and is it worth paying the extra bucks? for whose who have used both, which phone is better in terms of user experience in your opinion? also, have you faced any major issues with the Android 8.1 update on the Nokia 8?
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I don't have either but from what I have learnt in researching and watching demonstrations is that Nokia 8 has wonderful microphones for recording audio when shooting a movie better than the microphones of the pixel, other than that the pixel is better in everything
After using nokia 8 and pixel xl , both phones are smooth , I noticed after oreo update nokia's screen got much better with the colours , so you wont feel much difference between xl and nokia 8's screen , the camera is better on pixel xl but if you use google camera on nokia 8 the camera will get much better but pixel's camera still better , the battery is better on nokia 8 and nokia 8 is faster opening apps and multitasking , the speaker on nokia 8 might be louder than pixel but pixel's speaker is clear more than nokia , selfie camera a little bit better on nokia , both are smooth but nokia have better processor , pixel get faster updates
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I'm looking to buy a new phone and these two are top of my list because I want a stock android experience. Nokia 8 is around 30 USD more expensive from where I live. Does the Snapdragon 835 really outperform the 821 and is it worth paying the extra bucks? for whose who have used both, which phone is better in terms of user experience in your opinion? also, have you faced any major issues with the Android 8.1 update on the Nokia 8?
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I own the Nokia 8 , it is beautiful device in terms of smoothness , display , sound and speed . the only thing that pixel beats Nokia is in the camera department .
pixel display has Amoled and it sucks because it suffers from a Burn-in . go search google if you don't beleive it .
Nokia has zero modding instead pixel xl has a lot of modding
Apart for the camera, I would say that the Nokia 8 is better in everything, especially reliabilty.
There is so much reports about problems with the Pixel 2.
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Apart for the camera, I would say that the Nokia 8 is better in everything, especially reliabilty.
There is so much reports about problems with the Pixel 2.
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And there are so much reports about problems with Nokia 8. For me I never buy any Nokia device! I have the 8 and don't use it. No bootloader unlock is for me an unusable phone.
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And there are so much reports about problems with Nokia 8. For me I never buy any Nokia device! I have the 8 and don't use it. No bootloader unlock is for me an unusable phone.
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Which kind of problems ? I don't see a lot of problems on forums, and most of them are due to Android 8.1, and not the Nokia 8 's hardware itself, so...
I can understand that you want an unlocked bootloader but this is not the case of the majority of customers
I have the Nokia 8 (although only since last Thurs) and it upgraded to Oreo 8.1 OTA the day I received it and I have no problems with this phone. It is as close to pure Android as it gets outside of the Pixel series. The camera is a bit quirky but everything else is first class, smooth and fast.
i would say staY clear of both.The pixel has loads of hardware issues coming up in it's life cycle the motherboard issues and mic and wifi issues are pretty common and damaging @BoomXhakaLaca. But if you are going with one go with the 8,there still stays hope of better imaging with the upcoming firmware update,scrolled a lot on chinese sites and the 7 plus holds its own against the good cameras.
BoomXhakaLaca said:
I'm looking to buy a new phone and these two are top of my list because I want a stock android experience. Nokia 8 is around 30 USD more expensive from where I live. Does the Snapdragon 835 really outperform the 821 and is it worth paying the extra bucks? for whose who have used both, which phone is better in terms of user experience in your opinion? also, have you faced any major issues with the Android 8.1 update on the Nokia 8?
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What did you choose after all? I'm in the same situation , between Nokia 8 ,Google Pixel 1 and Sony XA2 . I want Pixel 1 because of the camera but most of them users have problems with hardware side ( motherboard and mic ) and battery draining fast
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ss-action-lawsuit-defective-pixel-smartphones
Nokia 8 have a decent camera , good specs and a nice battery and Sony XA2 have a better camera then Nokia 8 , decent specs and nice battery .
Hi Guys
I’ve recently shifted from OnePlus 3 to Note 8 and I use an iPhone 6S as a secondary phone.
I like everything about the phone but I feel that the camera is not satisfactory. I feel that my iPhone 6S is giving me better clicks than the Note 8
I don’t use any filters and everything is set to automatic on both the devices.
Does any other user have this same feeling?
My daughter has an iphone 6 and a 7 plus, and I can tell you for sure, that my note 8 beats both of them easily
I have to agree with you.
I've come from the Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design and find that the pictures using that are in another league - especially moving pictures.
I'm not very happy with the camera on the note but I'm not sure there is anything can be done, is there?
The camera is better but maybe try the Pixel Camera Mod? I've been using that and have noticed photos come out a little bit better compared to the stock camera app.
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The camera is better but maybe try the Pixel Camera Mod? I've been using that and have noticed photos come out a little bit better compared to the stock camera app.
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Will surely try that. Thanks!!
I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....
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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery
What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/horrible-touchscreen-latency-lag-delay-t3774567
It's this
I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups
I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?
Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..
You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.
i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally
I like to buy the best photo phone - is P30 Pro for me?
I don't care for nothing like NFC and so on....
HELLO
Do You think P30 Pro is now the best photo making phone?
Is it also the best video making phone? Cause in videos Samsung tand to be the king here
I have Samsung Galaxy S8, will I be happy with:
1) photos of P30 Pro
2) videos of P30 Pro
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How about the world situation with Huawei Phones?
I don't know anything about it. Shall I be calm and go head buy the phone?
S10+ makes worse pics than P30Pro in my opinion
Ive had this phone for over two weeks. I think the photo quality is good in most conditions. Then again I'm coming from a oneplus 6t. As for video the Sony xperia 1 seems to be the best gathered from reviews. I would say this is the best vetsitile camera. Low light conditions and 10x zoom no other phone can compare. Day to day shot this phone has impressed me. For me personally I bought this phone for battery life and camera and the fact performance is just as good if not better then top flagships
Photo quality is great, but battery life is amazing
I came from a S9+ and honestly... In a overall situation, I think that my old phone took better pics with the GCam app... The sharpness was higher, especially from pics of people.
In video, I also prefer the Samsung. When I try to record a video, the focus is in the most of time searching for a focal point, even if is in it face!
Isn't that P30 PRO is a bad phone, but in overall I prefer the S9+ with GCam.
You can only record videos in 4k 30 FPS which is a bummer. If you want the best video making phone, I'd suggest LG V40 or V50 (V40 has a limit of like 10 minutes in 4k 60FPS, not sure about the V50 though). Otherwise you can wait for the upcoming Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro. Those phones should have 4K60FPS recording.
As for photos, the P30 can definitely take some amazing pics and has a great night mode (although it doesn't work for selfies like Pixel's Night Sight. Just a small thing to note.)
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I came from a S9+ and honestly... In a overall situation, I think that my old phone took better pics with the GCam app... The sharpness was higher, especially from pics of people.
In video, I also prefer the Samsung. When I try to record a video, the focus is in the most of time searching for a focal point, even if is in it face!
Isn't that P30 PRO is a bad phone, but in overall I prefer the S9+ with GCam.
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GCam is truly magical, I wish it was possible to port it for Kirin devices.
Im a mate20x owner but i can that all Huawei phones are extremely inconsistencd when it comes to taking photos. I think the main issue is the discrepancy between the viewfinder and the final photos. Most of the the times the picture will have diffferent exposure than the viewfinder and that will introduce tons of issues when taking point and shoot photos.
Also, the skin tones is really bad and seems to target Asian audience, i wish there was a way to edit them like similar to selfies.
Tldr, highly inconsistent software that you cant depend on when taking point and shoot photos.