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just some questions about zenfone 4
1. is it easy to root z4?
2. like no problem in rooting my phone?
3. once i root my z4, is there a recommended bloatware list i can freeze?
4. is there other way to make the battery last longer?
5. and when will kitkat upgrade available to zenfone 4?
6. any unrooting guide here?
i just want to upgrade first my z4 before i root it.
THANKS anyone who will give me the answer
@yodaryll94
hi.
Here's "How to Root ASUS Zenfone 4" (I don't know in case device can be unrooted after rooted from method from the link).
1. is it easy to root z4?
-- Yes, In case you read(know what you are doing) and follow carefully. In short, not impossible.
2. like no problem in rooting my phone?
-- I don't think any dev take responsibility for any type of device damage after following his/her instructions. But mostly damages not happen. so always make sure by reading comments, possible that someone have replied success message.
3. once i root my z4, is there a recommended bloatware list i can freeze?
-- "Recommended", yep maybe in case someone have made list. but in simple, things you don't use and are not part of official firmware and by removing them it does not effect device OS. then it's fine to stop them or lock them from being loading in startup/boot or completely uninstalling them. there are apps to make this work easy. (i'm not recommending anything, just sharing for idea.)
4. is there other way to make the battery last longer?
-- Yes. there are threads on this platform.
5. and when will kitkat upgrade available to zenfone 4?
-- I don't know in case there will be Official upgrades or not. But maybe there are Custom ROMs on internet.
6. any unrooting guide here?
-- already answered. Other than last answer regarding this question, there are ways to unroot device with different tools type. but not sure about method of which i posted link above.
i just want to upgrade first my z4 before i root it.
-- I think there is option for upgrade/update in Phone setting "About phone" and in case upgrade/update is available then it will be Official.
Advice: Do not try anything on your device Until you know what you are doing. always make full Backup of your device before doing stuff like "Root/CWM(Custom Recovery/Custom ROM). don't take my answers as perfect, make more search, wait for more replies.... until you get enough information and are sure that you understood well, what you learned etc....
hope, answers helped you a little.
ajnabicancer said:
@yodaryll94
hi.
Here's "How to Root ASUS Zenfone 4" (I don't know in case device can be unrooted after rooted from method from the link).
1. is it easy to root z4?
-- Yes, In case you read(know what you are doing) and follow carefully. In short, not impossible.
2. like no problem in rooting my phone?
-- I don't think any dev take responsibility for any type of device damage after following his/her instructions. But mostly damages not happen. so always make sure by reading comments, possible that someone have replied success message.
3. once i root my z4, is there a recommended bloatware list i can freeze?
-- "Recommended", yep maybe in case someone have made list. but in simple, things you don't use and are not part of official firmware and by removing them it does not effect device OS. then it's fine to stop them or lock them from being loading in startup/boot or completely uninstalling them. there are apps to make this work easy. (i'm not recommending anything, just sharing for idea.)
4. is there other way to make the battery last longer?
-- Yes. there are threads on this platform.
5. and when will kitkat upgrade available to zenfone 4?
-- I don't know in case there will be Official upgrades or not. But maybe there are Custom ROMs on internet.
6. any unrooting guide here?
-- already answered. Other than last answer regarding this question, there are ways to unroot device with different tools type. but not sure about method of which i posted link above.
i just want to upgrade first my z4 before i root it.
-- I think there is option for upgrade/update in Phone setting "About phone" and in case upgrade/update is available then it will be Official.
Advice: Do not try anything on your device Until you know what you are doing. always make full Backup of your device before doing stuff like "Root/CWM(Custom Recovery/Custom ROM). don't take my answers as perfect, make more search, wait for more replies.... until you get enough information and are sure that you understood well, what you learned etc....
hope, answers helped you a little.
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hi thanks for your reply, really appreciate it
uhm another question. can you give a list of things i cant/should not freeze? (like system ui) so if ever i try to freeze i can avoid them. thanks
yodaryll94 said:
hi thanks for your reply, really appreciate it
uhm another question. can you give a list of things i cant/should not freeze? (like system ui) so if ever i try to freeze i can avoid them. thanks
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I'm not an expert, but try searching forum/internet for it. there is a lot of information.
Here few links from this Forum.
LINK:- Disable Apps (Bloatware) to speed-up and stabilize!
LINK:- How to Remove Bloatware without Rooting
LINK:- [GUIDE] Disabling system/bloatware apps using temp root
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I'm not an expert, but try searching forum/internet for it. there is a lot of information.
Here few links from this Forum.
LINK:- Disable Apps (Bloatware) to speed-up and stabilize!
LINK:- How to Remove Bloatware without Rooting
LINK:- [GUIDE] Disabling system/bloatware apps using temp root
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alright! thanks a lot
i just follow the guide in rooting my zenfone but after the reboot, in my phone says system failed returned to original (....)
my phone is in latest version v4.4.2 kitkat help me please
i just follow the guide in rooting my zenfone but after the reboot, in my phone says system failed returned to original (....)
my phone is in latest version v4.4.2 kitkat help me please
I am a newbie and this is the first time I have tried anything out of the way to update my phone. I have an unlocked S6 edge AT&T version which was running MM 6.0.1. I wanted to update it to the latest Android Nougat and in order to do that I started searching online, but there was no such straight post or article where I can get everything in one place. I found a lot of information and many ways to upgrade the firmware but not all the steps were perfectly placed.
Anyways, I referred to many articles and posts and realized that it could be risky but doable so I went ahead and did it successfully. Though I faced few errors and issues but I found most of the resolution here at xda-developers and other online forums. I am writing this post to help all S6 edge owners who want to upgrade to Android 7.0.
My Phone Details:
Model: SM-G925A (S6 Edge AT&T)
Build: G925AUCS5DPJ1
Android: 6.0.1
There are two major steps involved to upgrade to the latest android version.
1. Flash the firmware with the higher security patch (keeping the device at Android 6) using ODIN software.
2. Upgrade the firmware to Android 7 using ADB software.
[Note: I might be using flash, upgrade interchangeably]
Downloads
Tools :
Latest ODIN tool (I used 3.10.6)
ADB tool (I used 25.0.3 but you can find latest version here)
Firmware:
First you need to flash you ROM to reach G925AUCS5DPK5 build. You can download this file from here.
Refer to Post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6-edge/general/g925a-pk5-stock-repair-ota-7-0-t3564102
Then you have to update the firmware to get Android 7 using this fie SS-G925AUCS5DPK5-to-U5EQA8-UP (put a .zip after this file to make it recognizable by the tool)
Step 01: Flash latest security patch
ODIN Working:
Link 01: http://droidvendor.com/how-to-install-stock-firmware-using-odin-on-a-samsung-device/
Link 02: http://www.droidviews.com/install-android-nougat-on-att-galaxy-s6-s6-edge-sm-g920ag925a/
My recommendations:
1. Use 3.10.6 version.
2. Unpack the G925AUCS5DPK5.zip file and you will find 4 different .tar.md5 files namely AP, BL, CP and CSC.
3. Use all 4 files at once in ODIN. Do not use only AP. If you use only AP file then your phone will be updated to the latest security patch and will work fine but it won't update the baseband version and will still show it as G925AUCS5DPJ1 even though your latest build is G925AUCS5DPK5. This will create problem while going to Android 7.0.
4. Take proper back up of all your files before going ahead using Samsung SmartSwitch.(Download Links : Windows, Mac). This way you can take back up easily as well as your pc will have the latest USB drivers.
5. Make sure your phone baseband and build are same as G925AUCS5DPJ1.
6. Charge you phone at least 70% before going ahead. It is just a precaution in case this process takes longer than expected. (Mine was finished in 4 minutes)
Step 02: Update to Android 7.0
ADB Working:
Link 01: http://www.droidviews.com/download-latest-adb-and-fastboot-sdk-platform-tools-win-mac-linux/
Link 02: http://www.droidviews.com/install-apk-files-using-adb-commands/
My Recommendations:
1. Use the version I have recommended above instead of going to the latest version (I faced some issue with the latest one and had to go back to this version)
2. Instead of opening the command prompt from shift+right click. Use run or search cmd and open it as administrator.
3. Change the SS-G925AUCS5DPK5-to-U5EQA8-UP.zip to OTA.zip or any shorter name. It will be easy to type the command.
4. If you face any error try using adb kill-server and then use adb sideload <ota.zip>.
5. Be patient this process will take some time. Mine took 25 minutes to complete.
6. Again keep your phone battery charged enough to survive the process.
7. After restart my phone stuck at black screen AT&T logo for 5 minutes. So don't get worried just wait, it will work.
8. Read all the instructions twice on the links provided before going ahead. If you are not sure of any instruction you can search xda forum and you will find relevant information.
Problems/Issues I faced
1. Reduced Storage: After updating my phone to build G925AUCS5DPK5, I realized the phone is only showing 16gb storage while my phone internal storage was 64gb. ( I found the root cause when I got my 3rd error, for the storage issue I was not bothered enough but wanted to go ahead so that I can get Nougat soon)
2. ADB Terminated: My phone got this error when I was updating it to Nougat. (The error looked like this : terminate called after throwing an instance of std::logic_error what() ). I searched online I found out that this is happening because of the adb version I am using, so I downloaded another version and it went through without this error but gave me the below one.
3. Status 7 Error: Again in adb I faced this error. And the error looked like this: 'Verifying current system..."/system/csc/contents.db" has unexpected contents. Error Pic Link.
I searched online and found out that this could be related to CSC file which I have not updated in my first step. So this time I again performed my first step using Odin tool but I selected the 3 files except the AP and ran the process. Yippy, I got my storage back and in adb there was no any error going forward.
Conclusion: I got Nougat on my At&T S6 Edge but I faced few issues. Being a new comer it was not much difficult provided you have the information and passion to do it. The steps mentioned here are very specific to S6 Edge but it can be used for other versions as well. You only have to make sure you have the current files and build combination otherwise your phone could be bricked. I hope this post will be helpful for the users.
Thanks for the detailed instruction on how to upgrade. Very useful! I do have one question though. Does Samsung pay work after upgrading using the method stated above?
Thanks for the great step by step guide. The only amendments/extra things that might help a little more:
Step 1) I used ODIN v3.12 as described above. Loaded all 4 files, BL AP CP CSC
***Basic missing step in the guide was to use ODIN correctly, you need to put your phone into upload mode.***
***Basic step, to prepare to use adb you must enable USB debugging while you have the Step 1 complete before you start Step 2***
Step 2) I was getting the errors thrown with ADB terminated and did some research. You have to use v25.0.3 or else it throws the std::logic_error what() error. It was challenging to track down that version of the adb but I found it here: https://www.izzysoft.de/ftp/local/android/
***Basic Step, in order to use adb, you must put your phone in recovery mode*** (and be sure you use v25.0.3)
Thanks again for the great tutorial!
Shame you cannot start out with latest version of Baseband version: G925AUCS6DQC1 that is in the phone and not have to go Back a version first to PK5
techwire said:
1. Use the version I have recommended above instead of going to the latest version (I faced some issue with the latest one and had to go back to this version)
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i am curious, what specific issues did you have? should i stay on EQA8?
i had success with this method following the instructions and commentary going from DPK5 > EQA8. One additional thing to note is that each step of the process (odin, adb) will wipe the contents of the phone. I backed up with samsung switch, but it doesn't quite capture all the settings so you may want to use something else.
Hi
great post, i followed your instructions and i was able to get from DPK1 ( 6.01) to QA8. Now I noticed that G625AUCU5EQA8 is not the official ROM so would like to get at least to G925AAUCS6DQC1.
Do you know how to get from G625AUCU5EQA8 to G925AAUCS6DQC1?
thank you for your advice.
here is another DPK5 mirror
https://ulozto.net/!PpQ4SbJJOQyD/g925aucs5dpk5-6-0-1-4file-usa-att-7z
G925Aucu4dph5 is my build number, what can I do?
GoRi7o3 said:
G925Aucu4dph5 is my build number, what can I do?
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You can Odin to Nougat 7.0 from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72406969
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You have any tutorial video of this or something that prove this method?
GoRi7o3 said:
You have any tutorial video of this or something that prove this method?
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What proof do you need?
I don't now much things about this, can I jump to my baseband number g925aucu4dph5 to the baseband you mention in the post, or I have to do this method many times jumping from baseband to baseband to get the one you post
GoRi7o3 said:
I don't now much things about this, can I jump to my baseband number g925aucu4dph5 to the baseband you mention in the post, or I have to do this method many times jumping from baseband to baseband to get the one you post
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Yes. You can jump from whatever baseband you have to most of full Odin files.
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Ok thank you, I will use this method soon, I wish that work
I am still rooted with OE2 5.0.1
Is there any way to update my device using ODIN without losing the root? Just curious. Switching to Fi and I unlocked my phone from the carrier, but since its 5.0.1 it wont run the Project Fi app which requires 5.1+ to activate and operate.
Illiteracy and instruction...
I would like to know why it seems like the only threads on how to upgrade a SM-G925A from 5.1.1 to Nougat lack clear language, in an organized fashion, that would allow those most challenged by the process to accomplish the task with the least amount of frustration. I really cannot comprehend how it is that someone considered a "Senior Member" is permitted to instruct on complex procedures, when it is apparent the person does not have a fluency in the language being used. I don't say this as an insult to anyone's culture or ethnicity, it just adds to the difficulty. Where are the moderators (Admins) when you need clarity. There must be someone who can impart the step-by-step procedure concisely. This forum is not useful for its intended purpose otherwise.
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I would like to know why it seems like the only threads on how to upgrade a SM-G925A from 5.1.1 to Nougat lack clear language, in an organized fashion, that would allow those most challenged by the process to accomplish the task with the least amount of frustration. I really cannot comprehend how it is that someone considered a "Senior Member" is permitted to instruct on complex procedures, when it is apparent the person does not have a fluency in the language being used. I don't say this as an insult to anyone's culture or ethnicity, it just adds to the difficulty. Where are the moderators (Admins) when you need clarity. There must be someone who can impart the step-by-step procedure concisely. This forum is not useful for its intended purpose otherwise.
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What you talking about? This is very easy process. But there is even easier of you read another threads and learn from XDA or YouTube how to use ODIN. When you ready to try Odin you can flash firmware from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3611271 . This is 100% stock AT&T Nougat 7.0 Odin firmware use by Best Buys or Smasung to restore phones.
BTW Senior Members are mostly who build this forum. So just follow instructions, sit back and enjoy. If you need more clarification use your best friend Google or YouTube.
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Clarity wins
First of all, not admitting your English grammar is in need of some fine tuning doesn't help to clarify the issue. Additionally, combining both ADB sideloading and Odin, without clearly delineating which zip files need to be acquired for accomplishing the task using one or the other method, just adds to the confusion. I upgraded my phone using Odin and the "OCF" "tar" files. But, I was getting confused as to whether I also needed to use ADB to get to "OCF". I started off at "BOJ9". Not wanting to brick my phone led to much trepidation. I wanted to be absolutely sure. The main question I needed clarified was whether I could go from "BOJ9" to "OCF" without needing to go through each iteration. Many people had asked this question, but no specific answer was ever given. Thus, my frustration. I did eventually figure it out, but coming to XDA looking for a clear answer was not the solution. I see a lot of posturing, responders getting snarky telling the confused it's in some thread yet to be dug into or just being rude. Just help. Really, if that's not why you're here, move on.
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First of all, not admitting your English grammar is in need of some fine tuning doesn't help to clarify the issue. Additionally, combining both ADB sideloading and Odin, without clearly delineating which zip files need to be acquired for accomplishing the task using one or the other method, just adds to the confusion. I upgraded my phone using Odin and the "OCF" "tar" files. But, I was getting confused as to whether I also needed to use ADB to get to "OCF". I started off at "BOJ9". Not wanting to brick my phone led to much trepidation. I wanted to be absolutely sure. The main question I needed clarified was whether I could go from "BOJ9" to "OCF" without needing to go through each iteration. Many people had asked this question, but no specific answer was ever given. Thus, my frustration. I did eventually figure it out, but coming to XDA looking for a clear answer was not the solution. I see a lot of posturing, responders getting snarky telling the confused it's in some thread yet to be dug into or just being rude. Just help. Really, if that's not why you're here, move on.
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First of all English is my sixth language I know 5 more, how much more you know, second this is international forum open for whole world, third I'm almost 55 years old and understand all process ( this telling me one or two things about you) . You must be millennial who thinks he is most important person on world. If you don't like it move on to different place.
And yes you can go strait by ODIN from your build to QCF with out any problem, but seems like you not read enough.
O! One more you must be Polish because only this people critique other people's language ability, I know because I was like this once.
Edit: Also I see inability to follow instruction or search. You need to have everything put for you on silver platter.
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Attitude instead of resolution.
So, here it starts, attitude. I'm 56 and will shortly be 57. I am no millennial. Secondly, perhaps you should focus on your English grammar skills. While you may speak several languages, your skill with written English is atrocious. Even if your English grammar was passable, you have no skill at writing an organized and cohesive text. A simple, step-by-step guide to accomplish the task. Putting up a few links mixed with gibberish is not helpful. It's lazy and sloppy. Have some pride in your work. Exhibit some maturity and avoid superfluous writing.
Hello everyone,
I have to say I am completely lost regarding the whole rooting process for the XZ1C. I usually manage to get where I want just by carefully reading the forums, but with this device, I feel overwhelmed by information. And I sometimes feel like what I am reading contradicts what I though I understood from previous reads...
I will try to sum up what I know so far.
First of all, I have a just-out-of-the-box Sony model G8441 with firmware 47.1.A.12.179 / Oreo 8.0.0 (never been connected to the outside world yet), and I want to properly root the device and install TWRP with no loss of feature.
What I think I understand:
To root, I first need to unlock the bootloader, which seems to be a trivial operation. However, this will break some functionalities due to DRM keys being erased. Once it is done, there is no way, ever, to get them back. There are however ways to "trick" DRM-related functionalities into believing DRM keys are still there.
Alternatively, there seems to be a way to backup the DRM keys prior to unlocking the BL, and this backup can somehow be reused and injected back into the unlocked device. If true, then this would certainly be a preferable method than the previous one, which would then be obsolete. However, it obviously doesn't look obsolete when I read the related topics, so I must be missing something...
Another thing I noted (but do not quite understand): There are ROMs for this device that "include" a DRM fix.
Last important thing I read: there is a paid "do-it-all" tool which takes my locked device and, with one click, makes it unlocked - rooted - DRM-fixed - TWRP-enabled. Now that sounds really good! Maybe too good?
As far as i know (but I learn new stuff every day on this topic) this DRM stuff is the main difficulty here. I understand that the rest of the process (root + TWRP) will be much simpler (although I'm old-school and completly missed all this magisk trend...!)
What I don't understand:
I read that some people downgrade to Oreo to be able to root properly, and at the same time, I read that Pie removed the restrictions on unlocked bootloader. So I still have no idea if I should connect and receive Sony updates, or avoid them.
Another thing I don't get, is how many ways do we have to root this thing? In the past, I was used to see, for a specific device, always one major and widly used rooting method. Here I fail to identify it...
What I think I will do:
1. Backup TA partition with j4nn's tool. This will probably imply flashing an older firmware right? Is there any link that could help me with this flashing process? (I only know Odin - did I mention old-school?) I saw this page for generic sony Z devices, but the thread is from 2013 and now closed. Is it still up-to-date or is there a newer thread?
2. Unlock bootloader and restore TA partition.
3. Wait for Sony updates? Or should I first hide unlock status?
3bis. Alternaltively to waiting for updates, maybe I can just flash the latest build? (47.2.A.8.24 if I am not mistaken)
4. Flash modpunk's TWRP.
5. Flash janjan's Boot.img to get root functionalities?
Alternaltively to all the above (except maybe step 1 that I will probably do in any case), buy the paid all-in-one tool (Xperifix), plug, click and wait... But will I really end up the same as with the manual way?
I saw a few other methods in the forums but it seems my brain is currently refusing to bring them back...
That's all I have right now. I would really appreciate if you guys could share some insight and tell me what you think about this, whether there are missing steps, useless steps, incorrectly ordered steps, silly steps, or if I'm just completely wrong about the whole thing.
Feel free also to correct me on the assumptions I made at the beginning.
Thank you very much for reading this repulsive piece of text.
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I would really appreciate if you guys could share some insight and tell me what you think about this
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By the looks of it you have done a great deal of research on the project.
Yes, go down the route of backing up your TA partition first, but that is not a small step in itself, it's pretty complicated and if you get that working then the rest of the project will be a breeze.
You don't say what version of firmware you want to end up on. If you want to end up on Pie then forget the DRMfix . But if you're staying on Oreo and can't be bothered with lots of files & flashing, then this is the easy way out, I bought the paid version and can verify it works.
More recently I ended up janjan's kernel (Oreo build). Hidden root (Google Pay works), lots of performance tweaks, DRM completely working.
It's unlikely that anyone will bother making a DRM fix for Pie as the camera works and there are only a couple of other features that get disabled.
It sounds like you're not the sort of person who's only going to read the first couple of pages of a thread (or the last) flash the xxxxxx and then complain when it's broken.
The people on the forum here are very helpful and if you go into any of the threads you mentioned in your post with a question, you'll get a reply.
Good luck.
I agree, there is a lot of information out there and different methods of achieving what you want - very confusing if you have not been following the threads since the beginning.
In my opinion, the preferred method is j4nn's method outlined here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...devonly-exploits-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510
Use that post as your main guide (the final step in that guide, #13, is how you will achieve root). You will use Newflasher to flash the various firmwares along the way (this is linked from j4nn's procedure in step #2). User munted made a very detailed pdf file that fills in some of the details on j4nn's procedure - see the following post and download the pdf attached: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78255334&postcount=382
Most of the other methods out there came before j4nn's work - they didn't include DRM backup/restore.
If you follow j4nn's procedure, you won't need to use the janjan kernel as you assumed - janjan method is different and does not overlap with j4nn.
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Feel free also to correct me on the assumptions I made at the beginning.
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Sorry, I didn't point out that I was one of the early 'jumpers' who unlocked their bootloader without any backups, so I have been forced into always using fixes and all the information I have is based on having to fix your phone for it to work, but that's all changed now. I'm so out of date :-/
@camaro322hp is right, if you follow j4nn's method correctly you'll be rooted with no DRM loss. All of the other stuff is not required.
Thank you Digesteve and camaro322hp for your help.
From what I understand the XZ1C didn't get as much love as other devices, thus there was a long period of tinkering before a "do-it-all guide" could be considered "the" solution. That could explain all these different approaches that are proposed. Like you said camaro322hp it's rather difficult to jump on this train, and I can only guess how interesting this ride has been.
Anyway, I didn't see that the TA backup thread from j4nn also encompassed all the information I needed; I am glad to finally know that there is indeed a centralized "do-it-all guide" . To make it easier for XZ1C newcomers, I think j4nn should update his opening post to make this clearer.
Since I managed to grab the attention of 2 XZ1C power users, I would like to ask you: Did you keep stock? Did you try alternative ROMs? Do you like some of them? Do you prefer Oreo or Pie?
For information, the most up-to-date experience I have on a Android phone is my LG90 with CyanogenMod 11 (KitKat 4.4.4! Yes sir!). I heard that it's becoming less and less useful to flash a custom ROM due to major OS improvements, but I would still enjoy the simplest and lightest Android possible.
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Did you keep stock? Did you try alternative ROMs?
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I've always been on stock, the camera is an important part of what I want from my phone and although there's lots of alternative camera apps, there's no competition to the stock camera app. Then I theme it black with swift installer and just uninstall or freeze any apps I don't want with Titanium Backup. I have stuck with Oreo, everything works perfect and I remember seeing so many people jumping to 9 then wanting to go back to 8 because they didn't like it. Something about changing the way the drop down menu works, among other things, but having never installed it, I'm not the person to comment on if it's any good or not.
I have been watching the XZ1c thread and Lineage is gaining ground, it even has a stock camera now. I would have thought something like that with miniGapps is going to be pretty lightweight and very similar to your carbon rom of before. At the moment this is based on 8, but is working well. Depends how keen you are to move to Pie.
Thank you Digesteve.
One thing I still don't understand. Part of the process is to hide unlock status. If I do this, FOTA will be applied and I will automatically end up on Pie, right? Should I skip this step if I want Oreo?
EDIT: when you say "a stock camera", you mean the Sony camera?
@SunJu22 I've stuck with the Sony ROM. A rooted stock ROM meets all my needs, so I've never felt the need to experiment with custom ROMs. There are some custom options out there that people seem fairly happy with, so if that's your thing, I'd encourage it.
Without going into too much detail, I'm still on Oreo for the moment, for a variety of reasons, but I don't know of anything that would keep me from recommending Pie.
One thing you should note is that once you unlock, there is no going back. AFAIK there is no known or working method to relock the bootloader.
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FOTA will be applied and I will automatically end up on Pie, right? Should I skip this step if I want Oreo?
EDIT: when you say "a stock camera", you mean the Sony camera?
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Yes, I'm not entirely sure why having your rooted phone try and update itself is an advantage, but something I'd recomend avoiding.
Stock camera is the Sony camera, yes.
Thank you everyone, I believe I now have enough information to jump into this with confidence. The adventure begins, and will be reported in this thread for future reference, in the hope that it will help others like me!
Well, I am a bit sad... I wanted to report my "adventure" here in detail, but I'm afraid I have nothing to say.
Indeed, following the procedure from j4nn with a printed copy of munted's awesome guide, I managed to do all I wanted on the first attempt.
I don't have anything to add to this guide, everyone wanting to root their XZ1C can do it just by reading the opening post from j4nn and the mentioned guide. It takes a bit of time but nothing complicated thanks to the clear and detailed explanations.
I now have a fully functional rooted XZ1C (including camera) on Pie with Magisk root and TWRP.
Thank you all again from pointing me to the right direction.
I however have a slight disappointment. I wanted to start with Oreo and make an Nandroid backup before moving to Pie, but I didn't find Oreo builds on Xperifirm. So I jumped straight to Pie.
In case I want to test Oreo, I read that a downgrade is more complicated than an upgrade, but apart from the fact that a factory reset is needed for downgrade, I couldn't find an explanation for this. Any idea?
Last but not least: I looked for the latest Oreo build version number but couldn't find it. Do you guys know what it is and where I can download it?
I guess this will be all for this thread after this. Although it is very convenient to have my own thread to ask questions rather than finding the relevant page for each one, I don't want to annoy you too much...
EDIT: Please ignore the last question. I found out last Oreo build is 47.1.A.16.20, and I found the files via the download link in the opening post of the Lineage thread.
SunJu22 said:
In case I want to test Oreo, I read that a downgrade is more complicated than an upgrade, but apart from the fact that a factory reset is needed for downgrade, I couldn't find an explanation for this. Any idea? Lineage thread.
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There is an easy solution to downgrade:
Newflasher
Hi, I've been thinking about rooting my XZ1c for a long time now. So, do I understand correctly that the ONLY disadvantage compared to non-rooted device is not possible to receive the OTA updates from Sony anymore?
mEREHAIGE said:
Hi, I've been thinking about rooting my XZ1c for a long time now. So, do I understand correctly that the ONLY disadvantage compared to non-rooted device is not possible to receive the OTA updates from Sony anymore?
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No, you can flash a kernel to hide the bootloader unlock flag, this will mean that you will receive OTA updates, although depending on how you're rooted an update will most likely break your phone, so not that useful.
*made a thread*
Thanks--rooted withOUT adventure too
Very happily rooted now. Just wanted to say a quick thanks and add a few notes:
1. j4nn's renoroot to enable TA key backup and restore is fantastic. My advice: use and donate
2. munted's guide is excellent. clear and thorough...a rare combination.
3. do expect that renoroot may need to be restarted a couple of times. it took me 3 or 4 attempts to get temp root to pull the TA keys, although it took only 1 effort to get root back to restore.
4. topjohnwu's magisk is, of course, a key component to all this. Thx and $s there too.
I did a few things slightly differently/additionally than SunJu22.
5. I am on T-Mobile US, so I opted to create a hybrid Pie FW to get wifi calling and VoLTE. There are a number of discussions on this. I did it by combining the vendor**.sin and system**.sin files from custom-CH FW with the other files from custom-US FW. Of course (a) use IDENTICAL release numbers only, e.g. 47.A.2.10.28 w/ 47.A.2.10.28 and (b) you still need to delete .TA and persist files from the hybrid before you flash it.
Note: I don't really care about these features, but I have *heard* that T-mobile won't allow BYOD on their band-12 sites if they don't have VoLTE. Don't know if it is true (or where it is true) but figured why not?
6. I decided (for now, at least) to leave boot and recovery stock. So, I am using fastboot to run TWRP or a rooted kernel. Thanks again to j4nn for the method.
Note: I don't plan on allowing FOTA upgrades---I just like passing all the security checks and being able to *see* if updates are available.
That's all. Fine work in development and guides has made life simple and happy for me
kirkzp said:
Very happily rooted now. Just wanted to say a quick thanks and add a few notes:
1. j4nn's renoroot to enable TA key backup and restore is fantastic. My advice: use and donate
2. munted's guide is excellent. clear and thorough...a rare combination.
3. do expect that renoroot may need to be restarted a couple of times. it took me 3 or 4 attempts to get temp root to pull the TA keys, although it took only 1 effort to get root back to restore.
4. topjohnwu's magisk is, of course, a key component to all this. Thx and $s there too.
I did a few things slightly differently/additionally than SunJu22.
5. I am on T-Mobile US, so I opted to create a hybrid Pie FW to get wifi calling and VoLTE. There are a number of discussions on this. I did it by combining the vendor**.sin and system**.sin files from custom-CH FW with the other files from custom-US FW. Of course (a) use IDENTICAL release numbers only, e.g. 47.A.2.10.28 w/ 47.A.2.10.28 and (b) you still need to delete .TA and persist files from the hybrid before you flash it.
Note: I don't really care about these features, but I have *heard* that T-mobile won't allow BYOD on their band-12 sites if they don't have VoLTE. Don't know if it is true (or where it is true) but figured why not?
6. I decided (for now, at least) to leave boot and recovery stock. So, I am using fastboot to run TWRP or a rooted kernel. Thanks again to j4nn for the method.
Note: I don't plan on allowing FOTA upgrades---I just like passing all the security checks and being able to *see* if updates are available.
That's all. Fine work in development and guides has made life simple and happy for me
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Now riddle me this cause I'm on Tmo USA as well and I did the hybrid work fine as well but heres the question, does googlepay and banking apps still work with a unlocked bootloader or did you flash a modified kernel to hide the unlocked status.
Sitting on the fence about unlocking mine so I can do a full nandroid before trying out some gsi pie roms infact this is the first phone I haven't unlocked or least put twrp on since my samsung sidekick 4g o.o
kernel with hide-unlock
T_Tank said:
Now riddle me this cause I'm on Tmo USA as well and I did the hybrid work fine as well but heres the question, does googlepay and banking apps still work with a unlocked bootloader or did you flash a modified kernel to hide the unlocked status.
Sitting on the fence about unlocking mine so I can do a full nandroid before trying out some gsi pie roms infact this is the first phone I haven't unlocked or least put twrp on since my samsung sidekick 4g o.o
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Full disclosure: I don't use Google pay or too many banking apps, so YMMV. But, I am using j4nn's kernel with unlock hidden. (See link in my note 6.) You can flash this, or you can leave in your stock kernel and merely fastboot to this. From what I have seen, it hides most - if not all -- indicators that the phone is rooted and the BL in unlocked.
Does somebody has :
G8441_1310-7123_47.1.A.16.20-R7B_Customized_CE1.ftf ?
Only backup i did not make, and its gone from XperiFirm.
Still have the feeling battery life was better in Oreo, and would be nice for experimenting.
Would be nice.
Thanks in advance.
this is mosty a copy and past cuz i didnt find this part of the forums when i had to remake my acc. if u watch the video u'll see what i did and what i should cuz the how-to for install magisk is broken to say the least
i have a sony xperia z3v and before u ask yes i did follow when was on the xda but NOTHING works as u see in this video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaga6MUcTdc&feature=youtu.be.
so first thing i need is a Custom Recovery. so i follow what that page here - https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-flash-install-custom-recovery/ says...
first thing it is say i need Android SDK but never once talks about needing it ONE TIME.
2nd, both links given on that page for the custom recoverys 404! - https://imgur.com/bV9egdH
so what do i do next? i follow whats given and BOTH SITE R DEAD! also that page doesnt ONCE going into how to set up a custom recovery at all.
how is that u guys can help me out when it comes to flashing my sony xperia z3v back to stock after i F-ed up on a root and yet not have a set by set for geting Magisk to work install and work on your phone?
You don't need a custom recovery to install Magisk. I'm not gonna sit and watch some video about what you have and haven't done, so I'm not sure what how-to you've been following.
But, I can tell you what instructions you should be following (the official Magisk docs):
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html
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You don't need a custom recovery to install Magisk. I'm not gonna sit and watch some video about what you have and haven't done, so I'm not sure what how-to you've been following.
But, I can tell you what instructions you should be following (the official Magisk docs):
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html
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yes u do need a custom recovery as said on this page here - https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-magisk/
"What You’ll Need:
A device running Android 4.2+
Custom Recovery (how to install)
We’ll be using TWRP in this guide"
i have the magisk manager already install as is my phone it rooted as u can see in this SS from the phone here - https://imgur.com/a/Kq1EChq but as u see magisk has a red X since its not installed so i go to install it but it give a .zip so i use that and it errors out EVERY ****ING TIME as see here - https://imgur.com/a/VyAslvt
if u toke a few mins of your day to watching the video instead of being a ass and commenting that knowning full well u could have watched the video to see i did everthing that the pages sad u wouldnt be most the comment u just did. u just make yours look like a ass. i want ppl the help me not say "u dont need a custom recovery" when the page on the how to install SAYS U ****ING NEED ONE.
No need to swear or scream at me... I am actually trying to help.
I did not need to watch that video (and didn't feel like spending 12 minutes doing it, would have been better to just link that how-to from the start), since from your post I knew you had not been following the official Magisk docs (that I linked you). If you took a moment to read those you would have seen that you don't need a custom recovery to install Magisk (it can be useful, but you don't need one).
The guide you've been following is outdated (but unfortunately doesn't have a date, so that's hard to know). Take a look at the link I posted above and see if you can figure things out from there.
If you need further help it's just too ask (but without the swearing and screaming, please). It's also possible that you can find some information in my Magisk guide:
https://didgeridoohan.com/magisk/HomePage
You might run into some troubles since you're already rooted with some other root solution, but there's a section about that as well in my guide (if you're using a systemless root that is):
https://didgeridoohan.com/magisk/Magisk#hn_Moving_from_another_systemless_root_solution_to_MagiskSU
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No need to swear or scream at me... I am actually trying to help.
I did not need to watch that video (and didn't feel like spending 12 minutes doing it, would have been better to just link that how-to from the start), since from your post I knew you had not been following the official Magisk docs (that I linked you). If you took a moment to read those you would have seen that you don't need a custom recovery to install Magisk (it can be useful, but you don't need one).
The guide you've been following is outdated (but unfortunately doesn't have a date, so that's hard to know). Take a look at the link I posted above and see if you can figure things out from there.
If you need further help it's just too ask (but without the swearing and screaming, please). It's also possible that you can find some information in my Magisk guide:
https://didgeridoohan.com/magisk/HomePage
You might run into some troubles since you're already rooted with some other root solution, but there's a section about that as well in my guide (if you're using a systemless root that is):
https://didgeridoohan.com/magisk/Magisk#hn_Moving_from_another_systemless_root_solution_to_MagiskSU
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i saw that page and it makes no since to me. it still says i need a custom recovery also. i dont understand a single think. why cant they make it set-by-set?
let me make it as simple to understand what im looking for. i want to use my Sony Xperia Z3v to game assets dumps for Uta-Macross so i can have pull the 3D models and cards (very nice photos) from the game. to do this i need to have my sony phone rooted and i need to have Magisk so i can hide the root from Uta-Macross so i launch into the game to download the assests to do a dumb. everthing up to this point i have YET to understand what do at all. that link u give - https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html says to this then go here then go here and do this over and over again never saying just do this, this, and this, and your done.
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i saw that page and it makes no since to me. it still says i need a custom recovery also. i dont understand a single think. why cant they make it set-by-set?
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The instructions by @topjohnwu are pretty complete... They do assume that you are somewhat familiar with things like fastboot, but that is information that can easily be found by searching the big ol' interwebz.
Using a custom recovery is one of the ways of installing Magisk. If this is the route you really want to go I suggest you take a look in your device's forum here on XDA:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3
That's usually a good first step since you'll likely find others discussing the same device specific topics.
But if you take a look again in the linked docs, you'll find that you can also use something called boot image patching (which doesn't require a custom recovery at all):
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#boot-image-patching
Rooting and tinkering with your device does require a certain level of knowledge about what you're doing. If you can't follow/understand the instructions available there's a good chance you might mess up your device. If you have your data backed up somewhere off the phone (which you should always have when playing with this stuff) you should be good since a complete and catastrophic failure is very unlikely. It's really annoying to have to set everything up from scratch though...
But if you take a look again in the linked docs said:
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#boot-image-patching[/url]
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i did see this. witch is want im thinking of doing. by "boot/recovery image" does it mean the stock rom for the phone? if so does this work sice my Xperia Z3v is on 5.1.1? - https://xperiastockrom.com/sony-xperia-z3v-d6708
also right now i went and removed everything from the phone when it comes to rooting, but kingroot (what a stupid name. i also unrooted the phone) and Magisk manager. i cuz i need to reroot my phone and get magisk manager back on my phone?
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i did see this. witch is want im thinking of doing. by "boot/recovery image" does it mean the stock rom for the phone? if so does this work sice my Xperia Z3v is on 5.1.1? - https://xperiastockrom.com/sony-xperia-z3v-d6708
also right now i went and removed everything from the phone when it comes to rooting, but kingroot (what a stupid name. i also unrooted the phone) and Magisk manager. i cuz i need to reroot my phone and get magisk manager back on my phone?
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You'll need the boot image that corresponds to your currently installed firmware/ROM. If that is the firmware you have, then that should work.
You'll need to install the Manager again so that it can patch the image.
A small warning as you progress further: I've seen reports of old Sony devices having issues installing Magisk. Therefore it might be a good idea to visit the Z3 forums (linked in my previous post) and see if there's any information available on this before you continue. Doing proper research before committing always helps in the long run.
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You'll need the boot image that corresponds to your currently installed firmware/ROM. If that is the firmware you have, then that should work.
You'll need to install the Manager again so that it can patch the image.
A small warning as you progress further: I've seen reports of old Sony devices having issues installing Magisk. Therefore it might be a good idea to visit the Z3 forums (linked in my previous post) and see if there's any information available on this before you continue. Doing proper research before committing always helps in the long run.
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i should also root the phone again also?
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i should also root the phone again also?
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No. If you want to install Magisk you should not install any other root solution.
Install the Manager.
Patch the boot image.
Flash the patched boot image to your device.
Those are the basics...
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No. If you want to install Magisk you should not install any other root solution.
Install the Manager.
Patch the boot image.
Flash the patched boot image to your device.
Those are the basics...
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ok now im lost again. to do date dumps for Uta-Macross i need a rooted phone so i can pull the files without windows again tard and saying "unknow error" when i go to copy the files from my phone. but to play this game i need to hide the root from Uta-Macross so i need to use Magisk. is Masgisk a root itself? im really lost again
Magisk provides a way to do systemless modifications to your device, it is a root solution in itself, and it has the ability to hide itself and it's components from most apps and services that look for a rooted or modded device.
This is kind of the basics, so I reallly suggest you do more research before continuing. The best source for information is the Magisk GitHub page:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk
Start there, take a look at the readme and the documentation available and continue searching for whatever other information you might need.
I'm not going to be available for further assistance for the next 8 to 9 hours (I hope, but that's entierly up to my little one). G'night.
nothing i did worked. the .zip fail or the D6708_23.4.B.0.319_1288-1477_R30C.ftf file in the .zip witch in the rom from the phone, it will ALWAYS say failed, unsupported/unknow image format.
Morning. Like I posted previously, old (and new) Sony devices have been known to have issues installing Magisk. Search your device's forum for Magisk related posts and you'll likely find the info you need.
Good luck.
Hi Guys!
I have spent hours and hours trying to find a solution to my problem and it has lead me here so here goes;
My friend has given me a S10 which has had a factory reset done to it, He is in need of retrieving some documents on there which i believe was written in the notepad. The phone hasnt been touched since the factory reset.
Google had led me to the whole dr.fone software > got cracked version > and like everything i have read the phone has to be rooted
Then i see all these one click softwares like iroot, kingroot etc and really didnt hear to many great things about them and really mixed reviews for dr.fone too.
I guess my question is; If i root my S10 then can i retrieve data from before the reset? And if YES to that > Can the phone then be unrooted and back to normal?
If someone could please lead me to a tutorial, i started reading some but they were talking about custom mod's etc where as i just want ROOT > OLD DATA > PHONE BACK TO NORMAL (if possible) i def do not lack skills, just never touched an android phone before and also if somebody could suggest software to use for the data recovery once rooted.
Thanks Guys, hope y'all can help
[Magisk] Root for the Galaxy S10 Series
Here comes official Magisk support for the Galaxy S10! Let's get Magisk to kick start the development of these Samsung devices! Link to Instructions Carefully read through everything in the page linked above! Follow the instructions closely so...
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