Hey guys. I have been coming to these forums for a bit over a year now just reading posts and decided to make an account to get help with a problem I am having. I got a Kindle Fire almost a year ago and I rooted it successfully as soon as I got it. I installed FFF and TWRP to it and an ICS version loaded to it. However recently I tried to update the KF to the Jellybean version as well as update my TWRP version. Well, long story short, I got it stuck in the FFF fastboot.
Normally this wouldn't be a problem since I could just use the KFU to set the bboot back to normal, however the Kindle is also listed as an Unknown Device in my device manager and it says all the drivers are up to date. I tried manually overriding this by going into the device manager -> updating driver software -> and selecting from a list on my pc, however I either get an error saying there is no compatible file (which it is the sdk google usb driver downloaded for this exact reason so I know it should work) or I am getting the message saying windows thinks my driver is already up to date. I can't use the command prompt or adb to even locate the device. I am getting frustrated and need help. Thanks!
Ilumene said:
Hey guys. I have been coming to these forums for a bit over a year now just reading posts and decided to make an account to get help with a problem I am having. I got a Kindle Fire almost a year ago and I rooted it successfully as soon as I got it. I installed FFF and TWRP to it and an ICS version loaded to it. However recently I tried to update the KF to the Jellybean version as well as update my TWRP version. Well, long story short, I got it stuck in the FFF fastboot.
Normally this wouldn't be a problem since I could just use the KFU to set the bboot back to normal, however the Kindle is also listed as an Unknown Device in my device manager and it says all the drivers are up to date. I tried manually overriding this by going into the device manager -> updating driver software -> and selecting from a list on my pc, however I either get an error saying there is no compatible file (which it is the sdk google usb driver downloaded for this exact reason so I know it should work) or I am getting the message saying windows thinks my driver is already up to date. I can't use the command prompt or adb to even locate the device. I am getting frustrated and need help. Thanks!
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You say you have FFF installed, right? What version...better yet...what does the boot logo look like? A yellow triangle?
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You say you have FFF installed, right? What version...better yet...what does the boot logo look like? A yellow triangle?
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Yes, It had the yellow triangle with a flame in the middle...as to the version I don't know since I got a new pc since installation on the kindle and don't have those files available at the moment.
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You say you have FFF installed, right? What version...better yet...what does the boot logo look like? A yellow triangle?
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I just fixed it after many, many hours of work. I found a solution by bootloading a usb stick of ubuntu and using firekit to reset it into normal boot where KFU couldn't. That guy who wrote the program and article is a savior. Here's the link for anyone else who has this same problem and thanks for the help! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
Hi Folks,
i am completely desperate and really don´t know what to do. I researched the whole internet yesterday, read so many Topics regarding my problem, but i still can´t solve it.
My goal is to root my Kindle Fire with the Kindle Fire Utility but therefore i need the driver with adb and fastboot. So i downloaded the last version of KFU 0.96 unzipped it like recommended to c:/kfu and installed the drivers through the install_drivers.bat
Afterwards i uninstalled the "Kindle" Driver over the device manager and rebootet my system. I reconnected the KF but he used the same driver for my device again.
When i now try to actualize the driver on my own, i never see this Android or Google Driver in my overview and i really dont know why?
What am i missing? Why i cant pick this driver on my own? Any helpful suggestions?
Edit: what i am start thinking about is that i might have a wrong driver in the package? because when i try to pick the driver on my own i got an error message that this driver is not compatible for my windows. do i may have to change anything inside the code of the driver???
Short push and the big hope to find someone who can help me out
Try youtube
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Short push and the big hope to find someone who can help me out
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Did you try searching on YouTube? If you type how to root kindle fire there are a dozen videos for the original kindle fire. Which kindle do you own?
Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
Before you panic too much, you need give more information. What were you doing to "brick it"?
Have you tried a hard reset btw? (Hold the power button down for 30 seconds) then let go and turn on?
Worked for me before when I thought messed up
Kgyuszko
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Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
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You were doing something in fastboot mode, What was it? did you try to install the 2nd bootloader by hashcode or just restoring your device?
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Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
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I did something similar and have what i though 'bricked' the kindle. Have another good read through hashcode 2nd bootloader thread, others have has similar, and there are some instructions on how to resolve fastboot cable not recognised, and kndle is bricked. if not, go down the firstaide thread, that also deals with bricked kindles.
good luck
kgyuszko
have you successed to fix it ?
unluckily, I have the same problem.
factory cable is no use.
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have you successed to fix it ?
unluckily, I have the same problem.
factory cable is no use.
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I just had same problem. Factory cable no use. I intalled Kinology but thought to restore to a Kindle version. When the bootloader was being flashed, a black brick ... Anyone knows how to deal with this? I even opened the case and unplug battery.
qiudongxiao said:
I just had same problem. Factory cable no use. I intalled Kinology but thought to restore to a Kindle version. When the bootloader was being flashed, a black brick ... Anyone knows how to deal with this? I even opened the case and unplug battery.
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Your problem will be overcome if you follow here
Hi, I also ahve a black brick. It won't start after I used the wrong bootloader(the one for KFHD8 isntead if KFHD7)
I do have a factory cable but still nothing.
duncanidahoe said:
Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
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gogolovedell said:
have you successed to fix it ?
unluckily, I have the same problem.
factory cable is no use.
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qiudongxiao said:
I just had same problem. Factory cable no use. I intalled Kinology but thought to restore to a Kindle version. When the bootloader was being flashed, a black brick ... Anyone knows how to deal with this? I even opened the case and unplug battery.
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Hi, I also ahve a black brick. It won't start after I used the wrong bootloader(the one for KFHD8 isntead if KFHD7)
I do have a factory cable but still nothing.
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You all have a paperweight on your hands. The factory cable was the very last resort. If you're in warranty, send it in for a replacement.
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searching i found this page where explain how to fix the hard brick, black screen no sing of life, cant post links so, search in google "new life for a dead Kindle fire hd, is in mascote..... can any expert try it and explain that to the rest of us,
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searching i found this page where explain how to fix the hard brick, black screen no sing of life, cant post links so, search in google "new life for a dead Kindle fire hd, is in mascote..... can any expert try it and explain that to the rest of us,
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A while back, I brought this question up to Pokey9000, the developer of FireFireFire and Firekit for the Original Kindle Fire. His exact response to me was...
When the OMAP USB boots, it first waits a bit to handshake with a host. If the handshake is successful, the host sends a small loader to the OMAP that then does some hardware init and handshakes again with the host to get a payload to shove into RAM. This loader is similar to x-loader in that it has to be small to fit in the SRAM of the OMAP, and does low level initialization like mux, clock, and memory setup. However it differs in that it replaces the MMC and FAT handling in x-loader with USB loading as there's not enough room for a generic x-loader that does MMC and USB.
On HS (fused) OMAPs this initial USB loader payload must be signed just like x-loader has to be for eMMC boot. If the payload doesn't have a signature that checks out, the OMAP halts until it's reset. This is enforced by hardware, so short of finding a sploit in the OMAP ROM code or a copy of Amazon's USB boot tools used in factory it's not going to work.
TL;DR not likely.
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Considering his knowledge of bootloaders and low level hardware stuffs far exceeds mine, and the fact that he's been looking at this issue ever since the B&N Nook devices (maybe even longer), I have to assume he knows what he's talking about.
The information on the page at Mascote seems to contradict what Pokey9000 says because usbboot uses an a-boot(x-loader) instead of this not-so-typical USB loader mentioned previously. And the answer to whether or not the author was actually successful in reviving the KFHD using this method has been left a little ambiguous.
But, as much as it would suck for me to have been the d*ck that told everyone that it couldn't be done, I would LOVE to be proven wrong.
I'd say, if you have a hard-bricked KFHD, then I guess there's not much else you can lose by testing it out.
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A while back, I brought this question up to Pokey9000, the developer of FireFireFire and Firekit for the Original Kindle Fire. His exact response to me was...
Considering his knowledge of bootloaders and low level hardware stuffs far exceeds mine, and the fact that he's been looking at this issue ever since the B&N Nook devices (maybe even longer), I have to assume he knows what he's talking about.
The information on the page at Mascote seems to contradict what Pokey9000 says because usbboot uses an a-boot(x-loader) instead of this not-so-typical USB loader mentioned previously. And the answer to whether or not the author was actually successful in reviving the KFHD using this method has been left a little ambiguous.
But, as much as it would suck for me to have been the d*ck that told everyone that it couldn't be done, I would LOVE to be proven wrong.
I'd say, if you have a hard-bricked KFHD, then I guess there's not much else you can lose by testing it out.
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I have tried this on the 2012 KFHD (tate) and found it to work. After trying every recovery option via adb/fastboot. plus using factory cable. i was left with no choice. i used a pin needle with grounding wire attached to chassis of the kindle. be carefull the top is power(button?), bottom is restart. if you lose contact at all during the process. It will boot/reboot as normal.
with this method you must use CMD(in admin mode from pc) and adb push/pull/install/uninstall as needed. device has no input in this boot.
bryanfeanor said:
searching i found this page where explain how to fix the hard brick, black screen no sing of life, cant post links so, search in google "new life for a dead Kindle fire hd, is in mascote..... can any expert try it and explain that to the rest of us,
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Were you able to get yours going using that?
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Were you able to get yours going using that?
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sadly no, it´s been more than 3 years now that my kindle brick.
Djskizo said:
I have tried this on the 2012 KFHD (tate) and found it to work. After trying every recovery option via adb/fastboot. plus using factory cable. i was left with no choice. i used a pin needle with grounding wire attached to chassis of the kindle. be carefull the top is power(button?), bottom is restart. if you lose contact at all during the process. It will boot/reboot as normal.
with this method you must use CMD(in admin mode from pc) and adb push/pull/install/uninstall as needed. device has no input in this boot.
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I just recently bricked mine. Black screen. And all it does is charge. I can tell because the cable and device gets hot. Before i waste my time, would this help me. And yes i have that exact version
Otak98 said:
I just recently bricked mine. Black screen. And all it does is charge. I can tell because the cable and device gets hot. Before i waste my time, would this help me. And yes i have that exact version
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A few hours ago I was given a Tate to fix, and having read around the subject, Djskizo's post sounds either like a complicated homemade factory fastboot cable, or to be honest a fake. Perhaps the OP meant fastboot instead of ADB, but that combined with vague details puts me off trying it. Try a factory cable perhaps, I'm gonna try making one (short out micro usb pins 1 and 4) and I'll get back to you on the results.
Any updates?
Any updates on this? I hard bricked mine yesterday flashing the wrong bootloader. Can't believe how easy it is to brick it. I just have myself to blame, I know...
I saw this post on Mascote and it seems like a post for KFHD Gen 1. Is this the one being referred to, by you guys?
Only Djskizo seems to claim that this works for KFHD Gen 2(tate) so far. Is this true?
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I have tried this on the 2012 KFHD (tate) and found it to work. After trying every recovery option via adb/fastboot. plus using factory cable. i was left with no choice. i used a pin needle with grounding wire attached to chassis of the kindle. be carefull the top is power(button?), bottom is restart. if you lose contact at all during the process. It will boot/reboot as normal.
with this method you must use CMD(in admin mode from pc) and adb push/pull/install/uninstall as needed. device has no input in this boot.
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I cant seem to figure out how to do the usbboot trick. I have a fire hd 3rd gen. On the board there is actually a point that says usb boot next to it but when i ground that out and plug it in it's still froze at the unanimated boot screen, sometimes the background also turns white? What am i doing wrong or is this point labeled just to confuse me
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Here is the pic of the usb boot and the board name.
I WAS BACKING UP MY KINDLE FIRE WITH KF First Aide AND TO MY HORROR IT HAD INSTALLED THE ORIGINAL KINDLE FIRE 2 OS INSTEAD OF MY 7" KINDLE FIRE HD OS I DID NOT COMMAND KF First Aide TOOL TO DO THIS AND I SWEAR TO GOD I DIDN'T. I SELECTED FOR IT TO BACK UP MY ORIGINAL OS TO THE BACK UP FILE. NOW ALL IT DOES IS BOOT DISPLAYS KINDLE FOR A SECOND THEN GOES BRIGHT RED AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO GET IN TO FAST BOOT MODE FROM HERE!!! I AM VERY ANGRY AT THE THE DEVELOPER OF KF First Aide TOOL!!! CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE. :MY QUESTION IS IF YOU COULD SO KINDLY HELP ME....HOW DO I GET IN TO FAST BOOT MODE WHEN YOU CAN NOT ENTER THE OPERATING SYSTEM CAN YOU DO IT MANUALLY OR NOT?........
I HAVE MANAGED TO CAPTURE THE KINDLE LOGO IN THE 1 SECOND IT IS DISPLAYED AND A PICTURE OF THE RED SCREEN
IF THAT HELPS
ANY HELP WOULD BE AMAZING I AM SO UPSET AND FRUSTRATED :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
pretty much the same thing just happend to me but in different words. We will both get through this together. I'm searching right now on what needs to be done.
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pretty much the same thing just happend to me but in different words. We will both get through this together. I'm searching right now on what needs to be done.
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Thanks buddy I will help you as much as I can with info I find. iv been told I need to get it in to fast boot mode with a factory cable but then saying that I read in another post that does not work iv purchased one of eBay to try out so ill let you know if that works
You can reflash stockboot.img and stockrecover.img files by following step 5 and it will be work well.
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You can reflash stockboot.img and stockrecover.img files by following step 5 and it will be work well.
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I know that but can't enter fastboot mode
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I know that but can't enter fastboot mode
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That's why you need the factory cable; It's used to boot the Kindle directly into FastBoot mode. From my understanding, the only way a factory cable would fail is if the bootloader is damaged.
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That's why you need the factory cable; It's used to boot the Kindle directly into FastBoot mode. From my understanding, the only way a factory cable would fail is if the bootloader is damaged.
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Ok iv just got one of eBay now how do I use it sorry for the noody question do I just power it on and plug it in and its in fastboot? Also how could I have damaged the bootloader I hope I haven't how will I know if the bootloader its damaged? All I did was install the wrong os from the wrong kindle do your restore packages contain a bootloader?
thanks for your help
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Ok iv just got one of eBay now how do I use it sorry for the noody question do I just power it on and plug it in and its in fastboot? Also how could I have damaged the bootloader I hope I haven't how will I know if the bootloader its damaged? All I did was install the wrong os from the wrong kindle do your restore packages contain a bootloader?
thanks for your help
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I will try to answer to the best of my ability (as I am still a noob with the Kindle HD). If anyone more knowledgeable is reading, you're input would be much appreciated
- Using the factory cable: I think you need to plug in the cable to the Kindle HD (powered off). Then plug in the other end to the computer, and it should power on to FastBoot mode. As far as what to do in FastBoot mode and what commands to use, you will probably have to ask someone more knowledgeable than me.
- Bootloader: When people say 'the bootloader is damaged' they are most likely referring to the fact that the device cannot accept FastBoot commands. When you turn on the Kindle, the bootloader decides whether to turn on the kindle in normal mode or fastboot mode. So if you can't get into fastboot mode, then the bootloader is not functioning properly for some reason.
As far as how you would damage the bootloader? Well... Iike I said before I'm a noob with the Kindle so I can't really answer this. From what I've read, the most common mistake is that people have flashed something onto the Kindle Fire HD 7 that was meant for another version of the device.
I suggest you to try working with one of the senior members/developers to troubleshoot and fix your problem.
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I will try to answer to the best of my ability (as I am still a noob with the Kindle HD). If anyone more knowledgeable is reading, you're input would be much appreciated
- Using the factory cable: I think you need to plug in the cable to the Kindle HD (powered off). Then plug in the other end to the computer, and it should power on to FastBoot mode. As far as what to do in FastBoot mode and what commands to use, you will probably have to ask someone more knowledgeable than me.
- Bootloader: When people say 'the bootloader is damaged' they are most likely referring to the fact that the device cannot accept FastBoot commands. When you turn on the Kindle, the bootloader decides whether to turn on the kindle in normal mode or fastboot mode. So if you can't get into fastboot mode, then the bootloader is not functioning properly for some reason.
As far as how you would damage the bootloader? Well... Iike I said before I'm a noob with the Kindle so I can't really answer this. From what I've read, the most common mistake is that people have flashed something onto the Kindle Fire HD 7 that was meant for another version of the device.
I suggest you to try working with one of the senior members/developers to troubleshoot and fix your problem.
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thanks for all your help its been great ill let you know if the fast-boot lead works unfortunately the stock charging/data lead did not work because it does not supply power to 4th pin like the fastboot leads do to enter fastboot. im normally a wiz with android but the kinle fire hd 7 is one of the worst tabs i have ever owned. im not sure if you are familiar with the AOSP but part of the rules and agreements manufacturers make with Google if they choose to use android is that the system is open source and the ability for advanced super users to modify and customize android how they want it not how the device manufacturer puts it e.g. apple ios (closed source) the manufacturer is allowed to add a boot-loader and stock recovery to prevent accidental damages like wiping partitions etc.... and due to people complaining a lot of manufacturers have not included a boot-loaded unlock tool like htc dev web site but unfortunately you have got amazon...who have locked the boot-loader, disabled button combination and installed a very minimal recovery with just factory reset and reboot, this is actually against the AOSP and i do not know why Google have not done something about this its very frustrating for all of us we have to make our own system recovery tools because amazon do not include one and other such features like 2ndinit boot-loader < (thanks for that) they have actually refereed to the device os as kindle os when its an android 4.0.1 SDK build they make me so angry now i have literally got a £159 brick! i understand its an ebook but they agreed to install android as the default os so they should do it properly haha!!
but im sure in the end google will do something about it an sue them for millions well fingers crossed haha
Hello Guys!
I currently own a Kindle Fire 7" HD 7.4.6(Rooted) but I have a little problem getting my kindle to show up on 'My Computer' (Trying to transfer some music to my device) I have looked everywhere for this one specific question that I cant find an answer to hopefully it could be solved here... Anyways before my device was rooted Windows couldn't detect the device plugged in but here is the confusing part after I found out about rooting, I went on to try to do it and I managed to successfully root the kindle (following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351201) installed the ADB drivers and yes "Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v31" program did detect my Kindle and rooted it which is weird because I mean Windows couldnt detect my kindle but that program did? I can plug in my kindle and it is detected as an ADB and even shows up in my device manager, but my question is, how do I get my kindle to be recognized so I can manage it (i.e. adding music/pictures) Another weird thing is that yes my kindle is detected but you know the sound that Windows makes when you plug something in via USB? Well when I plug in my kindle that sound is different I dont know if it has anything to do with this problem... Well that is my question hopefully someone will come to save the day!
Is the kindle listed under portable devices in the device manager?
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app
stunts513 said:
Is the kindle listed under portable devices in the device manager?
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app
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Actually, no it doesnt, when I go in Device manager it has its own little tab called Kindle and when I click on the plus sign next to it it says ADB
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Hello Guys!
I currently own a Kindle Fire 7" HD 7.4.6(Rooted) but I have a little problem getting my kindle to show up on 'My Computer' (Trying to transfer some music to my device) I have looked everywhere for this one specific question that I cant find an answer to hopefully it could be solved here... Anyways before my device was rooted Windows couldn't detect the device plugged in but here is the confusing part after I found out about rooting, I went on to try to do it and I managed to successfully root the kindle (following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351201) installed the ADB drivers and yes "Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v31" program did detect my Kindle and rooted it which is weird because I mean Windows couldnt detect my kindle but that program did? I can plug in my kindle and it is detected as an ADB and even shows up in my device manager, but my question is, how do I get my kindle to be recognized so I can manage it (i.e. adding music/pictures) Another weird thing is that yes my kindle is detected but you know the sound that Windows makes when you plug something in via USB? Well when I plug in my kindle that sound is different I dont know if it has anything to do with this problem... Well that is my question hopefully someone will come to save the day!
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Plug your Kindle Fire HD in to USB port. Go to your device management. Look for the driver that is being detected right now. Right click on it and click and choose properties. Click to uninstall the driver. Now unplug the KFHD and plug it back in. Let the driver install. This should fix it. Restarting your computer after uninstalling the driver might be tried as well. removing the root hubs is sometimes necessary as well.