10bit HEVC Extreme Black Crush after using Camera App - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Somthing I noticed a few times on my Note 9 was that some times my media files would play very dark. Now this would only happen with 10 bit Hevc files.
So I did some trouble shooting and found that whenever I start and exit the camera in "Photo" mode this would happen.
I have put a pic for a 10 bit hevc video paused on the phone, in both instances all settings are the same, the pic titled "No Black Crush" is before using the camera and the other after using the camera and exiting in Photo mode. From the pic we can see that one pic is significantly darker and details are lost (eg. White spots on the sign and some background stuff).
The only way to fix the black crush is to restart the device.
Would really appreciate if some one out there that is using an Exynos version and plays 10bit hevc videos on the phone would help in testing some stuff out.
Edit - Ok so I guess some more info is in order.
Device info - Note 9 Exynos (Model SM-N960F) on latest official build and NON ROOTED
To replicate issue download the video in the link (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QR-5JEWNOFI3nbvbLR_80Z7BgA37Dil_)
1. Restart phone
2. Play the video using stock video player (keeping Video Enhancer on makes noticing the bug easier as screen is brighter, Video Enhancer off should also work)
3. Open stock camera and make sure "Photo" mode is selected and then exit staying in "Photo" mode (switching camera modes wont let the bug show up.)
4. Play the clip again. BOOM everything is a dark mess.
5. Restart phone and play the clip again and everything looks clear again

AshDroidG said:
Somthing I noticed a few times on my Note 9 was that some times my media files would play very dark. Now this would only happen with 10 bit Hevc files.
So I did some trouble shooting and found that whenever I start and exit the camera in "Photo" mode this would happen.
I have put a pic for a 10 bit hevc video paused on the phone, in both instances all settings are the same, the pic titled "No Black Crush" is before using the camera and the other after using the camera and exiting in Photo mode. From the pic we can see that one pic is significantly darker and details are lost (eg. White spots on the sign and some background stuff).
The only way to fix the black crush is to restart the device.
Would really appreciate if some one out there that is using an Exynos version and plays 10bit hevc videos on the phone would help in testing some stuff out.
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does changing the the screen mode from adaptive display to amoled cinema or even basic help at all?
if you get inconsistent results then it would seem that is would have something to do with the "auto" nature of the display mode. moreover the ambient lighting in the room you are watching might also be a cause. adaptive brightness might produce different results and might be tied the the screen mode as described above.
so remove auto brightness and put screen mode to Amoled cinema or even basic if you really want to compare apples with apples.

bober10113 said:
does changing the the screen mode from adaptive display to amoled cinema or even basic help at all?
if you get inconsistent results then it would seem that is would have something to do with the "auto" nature of the display mode. moreover the ambient lighting in the room you are watching might also be a cause. adaptive brightness might produce different results and might be tied the the screen mode as described above.
so remove auto brightness and put screen mode to Amoled cinema or even basic if you really want to compare apples with apples.
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Since I have been seeing this behaviour for some time now I have actually checked to see what was triggering it. Changing the screen mode does not help. Also in the pic I attached the brightness level is the same since adaptive brightness is off.
Now I understand where you are coming from but this is not a screen illumination issue. If I play a H264 file everything works fine no black crush even HEVC files which are not 10bit play correctly, the issue is only with 10bit HEVC files.
Oh and am not sure if you are aware as to what "black crush" is, it basically is the tendency of amoled panels to make dark areas so dark that u loose details in the video. In the pic I uploaded u can clearly see that one pic is significantly darker than the other even though all settings are kept exactly the same even the brightness levels are the same but dark areas appear much too dark when the bug is triggered.

AshDroidG said:
Since I have been seeing this behaviour for some time now I have actually checked to see what was triggering it. Changing the screen mode does not help. Also in the pic I attached the brightness level is the same since adaptive brightness is off.
Now I understand where you are coming from but this is not a screen illumination issue. If I play a H264 file everything works fine no black crush even HEVC files which are not 10bit play correctly, the issue is only with 10bit HEVC files.
Oh and am not sure if you are aware as to what "black crush" is, it basically is the tendency of amoled panels to make dark areas so dark that u loose details in the video. In the pic I uploaded u can clearly see that one pic is significantly darker than the other even though all settings are kept exactly the same even the brightness levels are the same but dark areas appear much too dark when the bug is triggered.
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ok well if basic mode dosent change this then how about video enhancer? that's an other peice of trash i disable.
btw its hard to help or replicate when you provide 0 info on your testing enviroment....
like what player are you using?

bober10113 said:
ok well if basic mode dosent change this then how about video enhancer? that's an other peice of trash i disable.
btw its hard to help or replicate when you provide 0 info on your testing enviroment....
like what player are you using?
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Ok, so you are right. More info definitely needed so I have updated the original post with details on how to replicate the issue and have shared a clip as well that you can download and play using the stock video player.

AshDroidG said:
Ok, so you are right. More info definitely needed so I have updated the original post with details on how to replicate the issue and have shared a clip as well that you can download and play using the stock video player.
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ill test it tonight under full obscurity.

bober10113 said:
ill test it tonight under full obscurity.
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Below mentioned steps should work to replicate the bug.
Testing to be done on Exynos version.
To replicate issue download the video from the link in the very first post
1. Restart phone
2. Play the video using stock video player (keeping Video Enhancer on makes noticing the bug easier as screen is brighter, Video Enhancer off should also work)
3. Open stock camera and make sure "Photo" mode is selected and then exit staying in "Photo" mode (switching camera modes wont let the bug show up.)
4. Play the clip again. BOOM everything is a dark mess.
5. Restart phone and play the clip again and everything looks clear again
If you need any more info let me know and thanks for helping out man.

AshDroidG said:
Below mentioned steps should work to replicate the bug.
Testing to be done on Exynos version.
To replicate issue download the video from the link in the very first post
1. Restart phone
2. Play the video using stock video player (keeping Video Enhancer on makes noticing the bug easier as screen is brighter, Video Enhancer off should also work)
3. Open stock camera and make sure "Photo" mode is selected and then exit staying in "Photo" mode (switching camera modes wont let the bug show up.)
4. Play the clip again. BOOM everything is a dark mess.
5. Restart phone and play the clip again and everything looks clear again
If you need any more info let me know and thanks for helping out man.
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so i forgot before leaving for home to do the test while having access to an other phone taking a picture of both scenarios so that i could analyze both pictures. but by testing it right now doesn't seem to make any difference.( picture seems ok.) but i am using a custom rom and kernel and system is heavily modded so who knows that might have had an impact. also when you do switch from camera to video, do you remove the camera app from memory( remove it from recents? i left it and no change)
for what's it worth im on a july build...
ill try again tomorrow this time taking before and after pictures

bober10113 said:
so i forgot before leaving for home to do the test while having access to an other phone taking a picture of both scenarios so that i could analyze both pictures. but by testing it right now doesn't seem to make any difference.( picture seems ok.) but i am using a custom rom and kernel and system is heavily modded so who knows that might have had an impact. also when you do switch from camera to video, do you remove the camera app from memory( remove it from recents? i left it and no change)
for what's it worth im on a july build...
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Ahh so I should have mentioned. Am on July official build, non rooted (still have 2 months on the warranty). I guess rooting and a modified system would have an impact on the issue but thanks for testing out. Out of curiosity what is your setup? Which custom rom and kernel are u using and what extra addons if any.

AshDroidG said:
Ahh so I should have mentioned. Am on July official build, non rooted (still have 2 months on the warranty). I guess rooting and a modified system would have an impact on the issue but thanks for testing out. Out of curiosity what is your setup? Which custom rom and kernel are u using and what extra addons if any.
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dr.ketan p13
beast mode v69
but ill re test tonite

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Capturing seminar while taking notes

So, I really want to be able to attend a seminar with a whiteboard or projected powerpoint... record the video and audio and text on the whiteboard - WHILE using Note to take handwritten and/or typed notes.
My solution - thought I'd share this accessory structure for recording:
1 piece double sided clear 3M stickies;
1 right angle prism (about 5-8mm) with an aluminized hypotenuse (about $5 on ebay).
Then I just apply the prism to the sticky and on to the front facing camera.
Works GREAT for taking pictures/video while the note stays flat on the desk. Also great for traffic black box video with note 2 on the dash for heads up display hud.
Problems to solve:
1) background video/audio recording THAT ALLOWS S-memo or Polaris Office or similar to be on (still looking - advice greatly appreciated).
2) self-portrait camera shows orientation on screen correctly, but it transposes or mirror flips the image when saving such that text on powerpoint is mirror reversed.
3) FFC has no way to zoom in stock app.
willfck4beer said:
Problems to solve:
1) background video/audio recording THAT ALLOWS S-memo or Polaris Office or similar to be on (still looking - advice greatly appreciated).
2) self-portrait camera shows orientation on screen correctly, but it transposes or mirror flips the image when saving such that text on powerpoint is mirror reversed.
3) FFC has no way to zoom in stock app.
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Thats pretty creative.
1) You could setup Multi windows to have camera and S-memo running at the same time, then just minimise( drag the divider bar) the window with the camera. (not sure if that would work)
2) Use any video editing program you have (i.e Windows Movie Maker) and use that to flip the video to how it should be
3) stick the prism to the main rear facing camera, and use that to record and be able to zoom. If the video appears mirrored, then use the video editing program to un-mirror it.
Optimistic Pessimist said:
Thats pretty creative.
1) You could setup Multi windows to have camera and S-memo running at the same time, then just minimise( drag the divider bar) the window with the camera. (not sure if that would work)
2) Use any video editing program you have (i.e Windows Movie Maker) and use that to flip the video to how it should be
3) stick the prism to the main rear facing camera, and use that to record and be able to zoom. If the video appears mirrored, then use the video editing program to un-mirror it.
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Thanks for your help! I appreciate it.
Unfortunately, I'm on stock because this is a work phone - waiting for the warranty to expire before rooting so can't add camera app to multiwindow yet. This was a great idea though!
The rear camera was a great idea too but it wouldn't let me keep the liveview comfortably on the desk for writing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuKlVKZgQc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This background configurable Secret Video Recorder SVR seems almost perfect;
Seems to lack orientation setting in exif metadata though. Would be tits if I could control horizontal and vertical (maybe with orientation lock?) mirroring flipping transpose live on android itself rather than reencoding on desktop pc in post processing.
willfck4beer said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuKlVKZgQc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This background configurable Secret Video Recorder SVR seems almost perfect;
Seems to lack orientation setting in exif metadata though. Would be tits if I could control horizontal and vertical (maybe with orientation lock?) mirroring flipping transpose live on android itself rather than reencoding on desktop pc in post processing.
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Seems like a cool app. Might come in handy
willfck4beer said:
Thanks for your help! I appreciate it.
Unfortunately, I'm on stock because this is a work phone - waiting for the warranty to expire before rooting so can't add camera app to multiwindow yet. This was a great idea though!
The rear camera was a great idea too but it wouldn't let me keep the liveview comfortably on the desk for writing.
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Don't sweat it man, no one at your work will even know that your phone is rooted. Well, that is unless they're into rooting phones themselves and really dig into your phones information.
1-You shouldn't let your coworkers dig into your phone like that.
2-If they're into rooting phones, then they won't care anyways.
Go ahead and take the plunge man, you'll be glad that you did!!!
SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 2 using XDA Premium
Look at an app called Arcnote. Does exactly what your want and more
This is a good point. Just haven't had the need yet. And I'm concerned about a hardware failure... warranty not being honored due to root... and having to pay our have firm pay. Maybe this is obviated by insurance though?
Arcnote is awesome but seems to require focus and manual capture of pictures of slides.
Secret video recorder svr from zero noise dev team is exactly what I was looking for for background video and audio recording. This thing is sweet! Five stars. Arc note would be badass if it could post process video... detecting each slide transition, capturing a photo and then doing its auto zoom, keystone magic. Thank you for the recommendation nonetheless!
willfck4beer said:
This is a good point. Just haven't had the need yet. And I'm concerned about a hardware failure... warranty not being honored due to root... and having to pay our have firm pay. Maybe this is obviated by insurance though?
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Solutions for your warranty problem :
1. Use a a one click root & unroot program called framaroot v 1.4.1 : See this link for tutorials - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1mQz4n-Z-M
download : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
3. When ever your sending this phone for any repair just one click unroot.
2. Use Trainagle away app from play store to reset your binary ( this is what your warranty guys check) - Now you are back to factory Cheers !
Thanks good call

Video recording

I noticed that video recording is darker than pictures..in a video recording at night I can barely see the faces of people but I can see them if i take a picture without flash..I never had any similar problem with all my previous android devices(htc,xperia)..Any way to fix it?
antkalaitzakis96 said:
I noticed that video recording is darker than pictures..in a video recording at night I can barely see the faces of people but I can see them if i take a picture without flash..I never had any similar problem with all my previous android devices(htc,xperia)..Any way to fix it?
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Maybe buying a phone with pureview ?
RAZR i's camera is good only with good light. I mean, almost with all smartphone this happens.
But try increasing video exposure.
sky0165 said:
Maybe buying a phone with pureview ?
RAZR i's camera is good only with good light. I mean, almost with all smartphone this happens.
But try increasing video exposure.
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I am not a rich boy that can buy a new smartphone whether I want..I bought razr 20 days ago..and I am happy with the picture light(without flash) but video is more dark and that's not happening on other smartphones.
Did you already try rising the exposure level while recording?
-Synix- said:
Did you already try rising the exposure level while recording?
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yep, but it didn't improve the lighting..it was brighter on light only..
antkalaitzakis96 said:
yep, but it didn't improve the lighting..it was brighter on light only..
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I just tested my camera and can confirm your problem. Recording videos (under not-so-bright conditions) is darker than capturing photos in the same environment.
In photo mode, the brightness (I guess the ISO sensitivity) is auto adjusted, but in video mode it's fixed and also can't be changed manually.
Very strange :/ I don't own my phone that long, so I didn't notice it before.
Maybe another camera app from the play store could add that brightness adjustment for video recording. Googles android 4.3 camera app doesn't do any better than the motorola one.
-Synix- said:
I just tested my camera and can confirm your problem. Recording videos (under not-so-bright conditions) is darker than capturing photos in the same environment.
In photo mode, the brightness (I guess the ISO sensitivity) is auto adjusted, but in video mode it's fixed and also can't be changed manually.
Very strange :/ I don't own my phone that long, so I didn't notice it before.
Maybe another camera app from the play store could add that brightness adjustment for video recording. Googles android 4.3 camera app doesn't do any better than the motorola one.
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I used camera MX from play store but nothing changed..maybe it's the camera libs.

little help about the camera

hello
i want to ask it its normal, i have the international version
and when i take a picture its show me some statics dots like on the tv but at the end the photo is good without it.
does it okey?, btw its only in home,with out too much lighting...
if needed i will post a picture or a video.
thanks
Xantox said:
hello
i want to ask it its normal, i have the international version
and when i take a picture its show me some statics dots like on the tv but at the end the photo is good without it.
does it okey?, btw its only in home,with out too much lighting...
if needed i will post a picture or a video.
thanks
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I think that it's just fine when the outcome is good. You can try playing with it's setting to know what to use in low light settings .
Hit thanks if it helps. :fingers-crossed:
I know exactly what youre saying, mine does the same. OSD shows the speckles, as an old TV would or a picture with too-high ISO setting would, but the resulting pictures always turn out great quality without the speckles. Not sure what causes it, but doesnt bother me. I would guess the phone cant handle displaying a live UHD video supplied by the camera directly to the screen while still being able to have a fairly quick shutter speed so its downscaled to a lower display res. I have yet to try 3rd party camera apps, tho.

How to make YouTube app full screen without black bars

Is there a way to make video fit to screen with no black bars on each side when on full screen or landscape mode. My phone is currently rooted as well. Thanks
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You may want to reword the thread as a question. It seems more like a statement that you have already figured this out. Just a thought.
I don't know if this works as i don't have recieved the phone yet, but try to copy the youtube link and paste it here.
stretch.site
It has sliders that let you chose your own aspect ratio. Maybe you can reach fullscreen in that way?
i think the only way you can do it is to root, install xposed, and make changes with per app settings. that should work i think
I currently download the youtube video with TubeMate, then open the clip with MX Player Pro or KMPlayer. In MX Player Pro it's possible to enable pintch to zoom, so you can over-zoom until there are no black bars visible. KMPlayer allows to zoom in a bit, which for some youtube videos is sufficient to remove all black bars, but not for the youtube videos that have black bars encoded in the video already.
Anyone successfully changed the Youtube DPI with an xposed DPI changer, to allow overzoom?
Because the aspect ratio is different, it won't happen natively. Like the other poster suggested, you need to zoom in the screen to chop off the top/bottom of the video.
just bumping this thread. Has anyone come up with a solution for per app? would love to be able to pinch-zoom native in the app.
Some apps like Netflix scale pretty damn well, most shows will take full advantage of the screen and movies will zoom to fit the width (leaving very narrow black bars), whereas youtube and iplayer leave these little black edges left and right... is a shame.
I just tried the latest guardians of the galaxy trailer and it played in full screen, i was trying to so what size that video is. Maybe new videos on YouTube are going to start being played in different ratios since the new up coming phones are 18.9
You can do it without root on every video on Youtube !
Just activate the "Magnification gesture" setting and then triple tap whenever you want to "zoom in" a Youtube video,it will still crop a little part of the video to make it full screen if the ratio is not the same though.
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You can do it without root on every video on Youtube !
Just activate the "Magnification gesture" setting and then triple tap whenever you want to "zoom in" a Youtube video,it will still crop a little part of the video to make it full screen if the ratio is not the same though.
Native app feature from Youtube app version 12.44.54. Updated today and works fine.
So we no longer need Vanced?
MrColdbird said:
So we no longer need Vanced?
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Nope, we do.
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Yes it works with the current YouTube app only pinch to zoom full screnn
fiskersc said:
Yes it works with the current YouTube app only pinch to zoom full screnn
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How does it work? I can't seem to get it to work.
fiskersc said:
Yes it works with the current YouTube app only pinch to zoom full screnn
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Which ROM are you on? Cause on RRemix it does not work.
admirdante said:
Which ROM are you on? Cause on RRemix it does not work.
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Ah, that solves it then.
Im on global stable MIUI 9 and it doesnt work too...
So how do you do it, I'm on epic rom android 6 miui 8, what is the latest YouTube version you are guys running
fiskersc said:
Yes it works with the current YouTube app only pinch to zoom full screnn
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please explain how you got it to work then

Question S21 Ultra motion smearing issue

I have been noticing significant motion smearing on my S21 Ultra. I did a side by side comparison to a OP7tpro to make sure that it was not my eyes playing tricks on me. I also tried with a friend's S21 Ultra and it yielded the same result so I know it's not a random defective unit on my side. I notice the issue prevalent on videos that are rendered with the HEVC codec. I really hope Samsung has an update that fixes the issue. The whole point of getting an Ultra phone was for a no compromises phone and this hasn't been the case. Do any of you guys also face the same problem or have a solution. I tried lowering the screen resolution, the refresh rate, turning on and off video enhancer, blue light filter, and even factory reset my phone once.
Source of the file to verify?
Disney+
ione2380 said:
Source of the file to verify?
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I used Amazon prime's invincible and Disney+'s falcon and the winter soldier.
Can you recommend a YouTube video or a link to video file to see this effect on?
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Can you recommend a YouTube video or a link to video file to see this effect on?
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Maybe you can focus on the character outlines when they are in contrast with the white background
agesarchus said:
Maybe you can focus on the character outlines when they are in contrast with the white background
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This is a 30fps video. I watched it in 720p.
My screen resolution was set to 720p and I couldn't notice any blurring.
I'll check again, try different resolutions, and report back.

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