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Stereo Speakers on the X2?

Are the speakers on the X2 as loud as the N95 / Touch Pro2?
Are the speakers on the X2 as crisp as the N95?
How is the bass?
Is it stereo or mono speaker?
Where are the speakers located?
What are the two slits on the back face of the phone?

dude,
it isn't available jet, so nobody knows how it sounds...
And there a a lot of big threads with the specs of the x2..
good luck

It has been confirmed that there will be stereo speakers on the X2...

Klaus1960 said:
It has been confirmed that there will be stereo speakers on the X2...
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Source please? That would be great news.

why ?
if you move your stereo speakers as close together as the speakers in a phone would have to be
you'd have to rest your head on them to get the 2 different sources experience
with a phone it would have to balance on your nose

orelsi said:
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-white paper from SE
-GSMarena
-pictures on the net show stereo speakers
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Rudegar said:
why ?
if you move your stereo speakers as close together as the speakers in a phone would have to be
you'd have to rest your head on them to get the 2 different sources experience
with a phone it would have to balance on your nose
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This is true in most cases, but the N95's speakers are quite good and noticable, even over a small distance.

orelsi said:
This is true in most cases, but the N95's speakers are quite good and noticable, even over a small distance.
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Mobile-review transaltion states they're great on X2.

orelsi said:
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GSM-Arena is one of the most legit sources. They have it. Just type Xperia X2 on the site's search bar and read all 5-6 pages of the "preview".
The speakers are located where the battery is location. The long but narrow slits are the speaker grille. The grille design on top and bottom of the phone is just aesthetic.
Now all we need to know is if the speakers are loud and crisp.
If it's as loud as the Touch Pro2, I probably still won't get it.
But if it is as loud as N95 and as CRISP, I will highly consider this phone.

poetryrocksalot said:
GSM-Arena is one of the most legit sources. They have it. Just type Xperia X2 on the site's search bar and read all 5-6 pages of the "preview".
The speakers are located where the battery is location. The long but narrow slits are the speaker grille. The grille design on top and bottom of the phone is just aesthetic.
Now all we need to know is if the speakers are loud and crisp.
If it's as loud as the Touch Pro2, I probably still won't get it.
But if it is as loud as N95 and as CRISP, I will highly consider this phone.
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Ckeck the Google translation from mobile-review of their preview.

speaker on any SE phone can not beat W960. W960 music function is just the BEST eventually its on market for alomost 3 years

vietdoan20062006 said:
speaker on any SE phone can not beat W960. W960 music function is just the BEST eventually its on market for alomost 3 years
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I don't think you know what the heck you are talking about. W960 has 1 speaker and it's mono.
It's not that loud. I even think the Xperia X2 will be louder and more crisp.
Well... the N95 has got to be 2 times louder too.

poetryrocksalot said:
I don't think you know what the heck you are talking about. W960 has 1 speaker and it's mono.
It's not that loud. I even think the Xperia X2 will be louder and more crisp.
Well... the N95 has got to be 2 times louder too.
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its true the w960 had one speaker but the sound was very good. the n95 was rubbish, i have had both and the n95 was poor, i dont understand why everyone thinks it was good.

Ganondolf said:
its true the w960 had one speaker but the sound was very good. the n95 was rubbish, i have had both and the n95 was poor, i dont understand why everyone thinks it was good.
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Hm.. That's weird, because the N95 still has the best speakers on a phone to date.
Maybe you had a faulty one or something? Have you heard other N95s except the one you had?
When people say N95 I take it they mean the 8gb version, because the first one sucked big time. I don't know if they upgraded the speakers though, along with the other things they upgraded.

Well yes that's true from all the nokia phones, the N95 has the best speaker so far..

orelsi said:
Hm.. That's weird, because the N95 still has the best speakers on a phone to date.
Maybe you had a faulty one or something? Have you heard other N95s except the one you had?
When people say N95 I take it they mean the 8gb version, because the first one sucked big time. I don't know if they upgraded the speakers though, along with the other things they upgraded.
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mine was a black 8gb, did not seem faulty (heard a standard n95 which i think was worse but not another 8gb version) i had a w960 at the same time, and i was comparing the 2. maybe next to a standard phone it was good but the w960 i had was really good. have u tried a w960? to compare?

"stereo" speakers on both sides.
still not gonna buy it just for this & its cam.
initial review with 360deg spin by gsmarena here: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-review-392p2.php
and photo gallery here: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-pictures-2926.php
EDIT: @ ganondlof, you're right. my bad. edited it so as not to mislead others anymore. thnx for that one

biernes_atrece said:
speaker phones on both sides.
judging by the looks of it, it is gonna be awesome.
hope im not wrong. but still not enuff buff for me to go for it.
initial review with 360deg spin by gsmarena here: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-review-392p2.php
and photo gallery here: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-pictures-2926.php
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these are the grills not the speakers, there is 2 on each side but the are both on the back, like two lines on either side. have a look at the pic below

Ganondolf said:
mine was a black 8gb, did not seem faulty (heard a standard n95 which i think was worse but not another 8gb version) i had a w960 at the same time, and i was comparing the 2. maybe next to a standard phone it was good but the w960 i had was really good. have u tried a w960? to compare?
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Not the w960, but plenty of other device. There are some that are louder, some that are more "crisp", etc. The N95 has the best speakers OVERALL. At least from what I have compared it to. Second place goes to some phones in the Walkman series.
I guess, I have to find a w960 and come back to you on that hehe.

Ganondolf said:
mine was a black 8gb, did not seem faulty (heard a standard n95 which i think was worse but not another 8gb version) i had a w960 at the same time, and i was comparing the 2. maybe next to a standard phone it was good but the w960 i had was really good. have u tried a w960? to compare?
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Ganondolf are u sure? The N95 has very crisp sound and you could notice the bass in which most phones can't even do that.

[Q] Disappointed with headphone audio output. any fixes?

I know this is the dev section but posting this on the i9000 board will just allow it to get lost and ignored.
I got this phone to replace my old deteriorating samsung d500. i was quite excited to use this as my main music player since i lost my old ipod.
dont get me wrong.the phone is great. but audio volume and quality is really lacking. i thought it was my imagination at first (since i lost my ipod i couldnt compare) but then i tried out my friends iphone 3g (same headphones of course) and iphone audio quality clearly trumps the galaxy sl's.
I tried using an app for users on GB 2.3.4 called "volume +". it does the job of increasing the volume beyond the phones natural limits, but by exceeding the phones max volume by even just a bit causes the music to be distorted no matter what settings i use.only the phones default setting sounds clear (relatively speaking) I listen to flac,not mp3.
Are i9003 owners screwed on this aspect of our phone? I love android and i love this phone, and i dont think spending over 500usd on an iphone with limited functionality albeit great sounding audio is worth it.
I read volume + is an app that renders the audio on a software level while voodoo sound does so on a hardware level (though it relies on certain kernels which are obviously not available on this phone atm)
Also, voodoo sound from what i know will only be effective with a good sound chip (wolfson) found on the original sgs. does anyone know if the sl uses the same chip?
If this phone is really limited this aspect, can anyone recommend an android unit which has excellent headphone output (comparable to apples devices or even better hopefully)?
thanks for your time reading this post

Actually, The sound quality is superb. It is not good on the Stock FW, the FW when you buy the phone. But after the Gingerbread update of XXKPH and the Froyo update of XXKB3, The sound is a charm! WHich FW are you on?

Have u try poweramp?
this got a equalizers
so u can adjust volume,bass,treble and etc
or try the following link fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
Hope this will helpful

mingfai said:
Have u try poweramp?
this got a equalizers
so u can adjust volume,bass,treble and etc
or try the following link fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
Hope this will helpful
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im currently on XXKPE.
Ive tried Poweramp and its not really something that equalizers can fix imo. The output just doesnt have enough drive in it. but ill check that link you posted
edit: after trying out what was suggested in the link, ive noticed a slight improvement in volume and bass. thank you!

Buy another headphones.
I purchased Rs 100 headphone just to listen to my phone, and I am quite happy with my sound output with that it has great Bass .but it has no mic.
Accessories headphones sucks.
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manrock111 said:
Buy another headphones.
I purchased Rs 100 headphone just to listen to my phone, and I am quite happy with my sound output with that it has great Bass .but it has no mic.
Accessories headphones sucks.
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I wouldnt complain about sound quality while using stock headphones.
I use Koss portapros which sound exellent on my laptop and ipod.
thanks anyway.

the phones sound is indeed below par and there is nothing we can do about it.on the other hand it is comparable to the iphone 3gs sound quality so cant complain at all.after all very few phones can compete with dedicated mp3 players.if you want sound quality try going for the phones with wolfson dacs

jit_devil2 said:
the phones sound is indeed below par and there is nothing we can do about it.on the other hand it is comparable to the iphone 3gs sound quality so cant complain at all.after all very few phones can compete with dedicated mp3 players.if you want sound quality try going for the phones with wolfson dacs
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I'll definitely keep that in mind when making my next purchase

sicmofo said:
I'll definitely keep that in mind when making my next purchase
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Ask misledz about sound... he might help...also invest in a good pair of headphones or earphones...
Do some research on brands... try sennheiser or Bose....
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Yeap, I got most of my music advice from spacebar, And he mentioned that never rely on an app's built in equalizer it's horrible! Get the "Equaliser" app from the market, and adjust the settings to +2db on the first bar and +1db on the 5th bar. That will boost your music needs and also it combines well with poweramp/Miui player.

Misledz said:
Yeap, I got most of my music advice from spacebar, And he mentioned that never rely on an app's built in equalizer it's horrible! Get the "Equaliser" app from the market, and adjust the settings to +2db on the first bar and +1db on the 5th bar. That will boost your music needs and also it combines well with poweramp/Miui player.
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To be honest i recall the post where you mentioned the equaliser app but I merely shrugged it off as one of those eqs that come with every music player out there.
Now let me tell you how WRONG I was to think that. This app really does the job. other EQs just distort the sound, but this one allows for awesome tweaking/customization. I'm quite happy now listening to music on this phone.
Maraming salamat kapatid (Thank you)

thanks for the tips guys . coming from nokia (5800) , i9003's sound quality was unacceptable to me . with this app its somewhat usable now. although it still lacks the loudness imo

Well loudness can be modified with a volume+ app, that isn't the best I'm aware but it does the job to raise the volume to a certain amount. Equaliser is a free app, But in some term's your custom preset doesn't get saved in the free version, oh well, there are alternatives to the paid anyways.
So far so good, I've noticed that PowerAMP has really good volume output, when combined with Equaliser, it really brings out the perfection that is really intended to be heard. Raw beauty. But in order to get the best of your settings, *If you use PowerAMP, you should disable any pre-existing equalizer settings or boosts, etc, they just lower the volume to a point where the deaf can hear*
As for the Equaliser setting's, Some might be wondering how to you enable the sliders in the EQ app, *Put the widget on your homescreen to make it easier to access, plus it's got a sexy layout*, Press the power button on the top right in EQ app and enable the tick mark's hence giving you the option to expand your listening experience.
Bass Boost - 15%~50% the choice is upto you, there isn't any real distortion and the quality is still superb. I'm a fan of dubstep/electronic music so I tend to love it when heavy bass drops in.
Visualizer - Not more than 5%-7%, I don't usually enable this because it tends to make the audio seem a bit faded off. It's only effective when you own a 7.1 Stereo highclass headset.
Reverb - Usually keep this disabled, But the Plate effect is a nice way to focus on the audio aswell as keep track of the bass.
@sicmofo Your welcome part ! Anytime bro.

Misledz very clearly explained ....
It seems to be pretty no0b proof ATM!
any ideas or equalizer presets for getting a half decent surround sound or 3d sound effect for heavy metal or instrumental rock tracks... when using the bundled earphones? And instead of poweramp does miui player integrate well with eq app...?
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Lordrdx666 said:
Misledz very clearly explained ....
It seems to be pretty no0b proof ATM!
any ideas or equalizer presets for getting a half decent surround sound or 3d sound effect for heavy metal or instrumental rock tracks... when using the bundled earphones? And instead of poweramp does miui player integrate well with eq app...?
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Yeap It works with most supposed player's except for Fede's Ubermusic, That's a bit glitchy and needs a major rework That player tends to start music on it's own D:. Bro the settings I mentioned should be good enough for general listening experience It boosts background while making the vocals audible

Just my feedback but I noticed that the stock music player imo has overall better sound quality and volume compared to poweramp (I'm not a fan of the early 90's-ish stereo ui either). Proplayer has a beautiful ui and good sound but it sucks the battery like there's no tomorrow. Miui player's ui reminds me too much of my old ipod (apple hater)
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if we are talking about music player here then
TTpod is just awesome, it has its own decoders-- just try it
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with equalizer its a fantastic combo.

sicmofo said:
Just my feedback but I noticed that the stock music player imo has overall better sound quality and volume compared to poweramp (I'm not a fan of the early 90's-ish stereo ui either). Proplayer has a beautiful ui and good sound but it sucks the battery like there's no tomorrow. Miui player's ui reminds me too much of my old ipod (apple hater)
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Apple hater? You truly are my child! SON!! --Err well, on another note, MIUI has a nice shake feature that I really enjoy, I can't take out the phone in the jeepney due to security/anti-theft measures but the fact that I need to shake my leg just to change the music isn't so bad ---Although that might seem like I have parkinson's to some people ;-;

manrock111 said:
if we are talking about music player here then
TTpod is just awesome, it has its own decoders-- just try it
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with equalizer its a fantastic combo.
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I've tried this out and I have to say its quite good. Props to the chinese devs. UI is attractive yet easy to navigate. The whole setup reminds me of a karaoke machine lol.
It also has the shake function that Misledz mentioned from Miui. This would be my music app of choice BUT...no flac support. BAAAAAWWWWWWW
@Misledz
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I havent had the (dis)pleasure of using it but I believe having one around your neck during one of those late commutes in a jeepney acts as a deterrent already (granted everyone knows what it is)
Haha dont worry mine isnt as flashy as the picture above which is just for reference I hold onto mine like a priest clutching onto a rosary on a crashing plane
I HAVE prepared meals with it though. Very handy

Try Volume+ v1.73
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I like customization, but sometimes it's just stupid

You have to ask why, what is the reason behind the customizations you do. Customization for customization sake is just not going to work.
For me, I customize to make my phone easier to use and better looking, that's all. if a customization doesn't serve neither of these purloses, I'm not gonna do it no matter how cool it may seem.
But sometimes it seems to me people just "customize" to be "cool", "unconventional", "unique", "style" or whatever other phsycological satisfactions people get from it.
This time I'm not gonna get into the crappy themes, cuz people will jsut claim it's their personal opinion to like the ****ty themes.
Let's take a look at this mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692233
it's an audio "enhancement" mod that supposidly "improves" your audio.
Features:
-System Wide What I can't turn it off if it sucks?
-Maximum Audio Re-sampling (Re-Sampling sound to 48kHz!) Why in the love of ****, would you resample it to 48Khz? anyone who knows ANYTHING about sound quality in digital audio, knows not to resample into a simillar sample rate. You know you might get minor improvements if you upsample it to 88.2Khz or even 96khz. But 48Khz? it's not gonna do anything but vastly decrease sound quality
-DPS Manager V3
-AudioFX DSP Widget [Removed in AOSP/AOKP]
-Massively Improved overall sound How? where? highs lows mids? soundstage? clarity? positioning? warmth? coloring?
-Improved Beats Audio Effect again, how?
-Louder, Clearer vocals in the background ok fair enough, but what headphones are you using? please don't tell me it's Beats
-100% FULLY ACTIVATED ALSA MODULES AND DRIVERS! (SPECIFICALLY COMPILED FOR TLV320AIC3008) (TEGRA 3 ONE X ONLY) I don't know man, it just seems to me that the stock roms from any phone don't have ANY driver working, they always require a mod
-Sony xLOUD Engine you mean that dynamic range compressor that DECREASES sound quality?
-Powerful, Louder Bass (MegaBass)
-More Powerful Drums It just seems to me that every false audio quality advertising focuses on bass and drums. from cheap headphones to crap audio players
-Walkman Sound Enhancement Features: ClearBass, ClearVoice, Clear Audio, Hearing Protection, VPT Wrapper yea let's stack as many effects as possible ontop of the origional audio. it's gonna vastly "improve" my audio!
-Walkman Music Player
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Any audiophil knows that in the world of HiFi, Beats doesn't mean ****. nobody uses Beats headphones. People who care about audio quality more than anyone else use AKG, Sennhaiser, Ultimate Ears, Deon excetera excetera, even Bose is more prestigious than Beats.
So, if you know that, "Beats Audio" isn't cool at all.
Clearly, this mod is probably not going to increase your overall audio quality. In fact it will do more harm than good because of the resampling.
People somehow always want to believe that the professionals suck, somehow all the programmers working for HTC are assholes they either don't know how to or don't want to make your sound drivers work. So somehow we require a mod to "fix" it.
There is also a belief that somwhow all the audio mixing engineers and studios are filled with idiots and retards who don't know how to mix songs properly. Therefore somehow we need to add in equalizers, compressors, filters, 3D effects, crossfeeding, SRS audio, doulby audio, beats audio all at the same time to make them sound "better".
yea, I don't think so.
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And there is the "Sony Mobile Bravia Engine" which people also feel like intergrading into their ROMs and making mods to add this feature to your phone.
This one is really simillar to beats audio. Anyone who knows about display quality knows this is just an advertising tool, it's not gonna imrpove your audio quality in any way. The only way to improve on the software level, is to make a display calibration and make sure you're following stricktly with the sRGB standard.
Any software that deviates from that, will not improve but decrease your image quality, PERIOD.
so Bravia has two choices here, it either does NOTHING, or it DECREASES your image quality. because it's made for ****ty sony TFT TN screeens, it can't be calibrated with whatever non-sony phone you're using.
However there is one exception when image enhancing softwares could potentially work, that is if your image or vidio isn't properly developed. The fix of which isn't to implement a system wide screen filter, it's to fix that particular image! or make your video show up properly by fixing your video player.
so in conclusion, does XDA have a lot of skilled developers? yea you bet. But too bad they don't seem to read up on anything but coding.
Do people in XDA like customizing? same answer. But they don't seem to know why they're customizing their phones.

Don't know much about audio and I mainly just use stock settings and players so I can't comment on that.
Other than that why do you care if others like customising. You don't? congratulations. The basic answer is because people like options. Having options are not a bad thing. people customise because they want to for aesthetics, functionality or both . No point in ranting about it. Why do people like or do anything?
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hungry81 said:
Don't know much about audio and I mainly just use stock settings and players so I can't comment on that.
Other than that why do you care if others like customising. You don't? congratulations. The basic answer is because people like options. Having options are not a bad thing. people customise because they want to for aesthetics, functionality or both . No point in ranting about it. Why do people like or do anything?
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It's wasn't a rant, the man made specific points. And your answer verifies his point about an issue on xda. Modding for the sake of it even if it's detrimental to the user experience.
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jacobgong said:
You have to ask why, what is the reason behind the customizations you do. Customization for customization sake is just not going to work.
For me, I customize to make my phone easier to use and better looking, that's all. if a customization doesn't serve neither of these purloses, I'm not gonna do it no matter how cool it may seem.
But sometimes it seems to me people just "customize" to be "cool", "unconventional", "unique", "style" or whatever other phsycological satisfactions people get from it.
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I'm confused at how you've managed to connect these to that particular mod. The mod itself is meant to improve your phone by making it "better sounding"; its rationale isn't just to be "cool", "unconventional", etc. Even if it doesn't work (I wouldn't know), it's still not "customization for customization's sake".

I don't know a lot of things, but I know that xLoud improves the audio quality (in fact, just make the sound louder, and only works with the speaker). I say that because I have a Sony phone. Also, what you can judge on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609868
Say whatever you want, this improves my sound quality a LOT.

Tim Cook? Plan B eh?

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Felimenta97 said:
I don't know a lot of things, but I know that xLoud improves the audio quality (in fact, just make the sound louder, and only works with the speaker). I say that because I have a Sony phone. Also, what you can judge on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609868
Say whatever you want, this improves my sound quality a LOT.
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there are physical limits to how loud your speaker can go, and tha cannot be changed by any kind of software. The way to make it louder is to use a compressor, which compresses the dynmaic range of your song. in other words, it makes all the parts that are not on max loudness louder.
This obviously decreases your audio quality, because you want more dynamic range in your audio just like you want 16-bit CD quality audio over the 8-bit NES audio. a compressor won't make your audio 8-bit because it's wayyyy smaller than 16-bit, but it's going in the same direction.
my recommendation for actually getting better sond quality and loudness, is to get a good blutooth speaker. or use some good headphones.

jacobgong said:
there are physical limits to how loud your speaker can go, and tha cannot be changed by any kind of software. The way to make it louder is to use a compressor, which compresses the dynmaic range of your song. in other words, it makes all the parts that are not on max loudness louder.
This obviously decreases your audio quality, because you want more dynamic range in your audio just like you want 16-bit CD quality audio over the 8-bit NES audio. a compressor won't make your audio 8-bit because it's wayyyy smaller than 16-bit, but it's going in the same direction.
my recommendation for actually getting better sond quality and loudness, is to get a good blutooth speaker. or use some good headphones.
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Again, this is for speakers. And I don't see any differences. The sound is really good, and I think 90% of the other Sony users too. Mostly doesn't even know what you know (even some experienced users), so it's good for them.
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Why don't you just 10 and make it louder?
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i used one of the beat mods on my atrix one time and damn did it make it suck worse lol! i rock sennheiser buds and they are awesome, but i tried out like 20 pair of headphones this weekend and i must say klipsch image ones from bestbuy are amazing. when i work off wed im headed back to bestbuy to pick them up while they are on sale :good: i do have to say the dsp manager did make a diff on the atrix though in cm9 i cld tell in my car and on the buds!

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Why don't you just 10 and make it louder?
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Because it goes to 11. Other threads only go to 10 and this is 1 louder.

063_XOBX said:
Because it goes to 11. Other threads only go to 10 and this is 1 louder.
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Thank you for understanding the reference. I thought it would take longer, especially since I missed a word.
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jacobgong said:
there are physical limits to how loud your speaker can go, and tha cannot be changed by any kind of software. The way to make it louder is to use a compressor, which compresses the dynmaic range of your song. in other words, it makes all the parts that are not on max loudness louder.
This obviously decreases your audio quality, because you want more dynamic range in your audio just like you want 16-bit CD quality audio over the 8-bit NES audio. a compressor won't make your audio 8-bit because it's wayyyy smaller than 16-bit, but it's going in the same direction.
my recommendation for actually getting better sond quality and loudness, is to get a good blutooth speaker. or use some good headphones.
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There are physical limits, yes, but generally manufacturers set the max sound that standard volume will achieve below that so as not to have to worry about the speaker being destroyed or the sound being too distorted. Software tweaks can most definitely make a difference. That's a big part of why a lot of people got Power Amp when it first dropped.

TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Thank you for understanding the reference. I thought it would take longer, especially since I missed a word.
Sent from your mom.
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MissionImprobable said:
There are physical limits, yes, but generally manufacturers set the max sound that standard volume will achieve below that so as not to have to worry about the speaker being destroyed or the sound being too distorted. Software tweaks can most definitely make a difference. That's a big part of why a lot of people got Power Amp when it first dropped.
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yes install a mod that will not only introduce distortions but also has the potential to blow your speaker. that's a great idea.

like apple **** products more then go and buy one and stop whining that android is this and this just because you a single person doesn't like it cause you aren't a special person that when rants and whines everyone must listen and agree with

blazex1 said:
like apple **** products more then go and buy one and stop whining that android is this and this just because you a single person doesn't like it cause you aren't a special person that when rants and whines everyone must listen and agree with
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His reasons are indeed correct. Honestly, who wants a distorted sound quality when they can be the best with stock settings? Being such an audiophile, I highly doubt that most of the people will aware of the decrease in the sound quality, instead of the placebo of the modded 'better' audio mod. It is tuned to be heard better in speakers or headphones (xLoud, Beats boost etc.) for MOST people. So it will (or has it?) becomes a stereotype. Therefore, his rationale is true for me, but false on the majority.
Aaaand, he has the right to rant it out here as long as Archer or other Mods said he could.

blazex1 said:
like apple **** products more then go and buy one and stop whining that android is this and this just because you a single person doesn't like it cause you aren't a special person that when rants and whines everyone must listen and agree with
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you can disagree as much as you like
I can buy apple as much as I want
but it won't change the fact that some of the mods people post here are more placebo than empirically functional.

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Guys check the Beats Audio MOD (Gingerbread) at XDA.
Beats Audio for CM9, AKOP, MIUI -> Here (not tested)
Was using DSP Manager, now I switched to beats audio. high performance improvement in my Atrix.
NOTE :- Remove the DSP Manager via Titanium (or similar app) to avoid conflict !!
All credits to the dev RockoDev (2.3) and ...Awesome... (4.0)

but beats audio is a pointless app. its just a preset equaliser that emphasises bass and high treble in a simple S curve through the range.
you can get this exact same effect with dsp or poweramp etc. dont waste your time.
in fact most record producers scream at your average Joe for messing with equalisers and would prefer everyone to keep it flat/neutral.
Many producers reference classical music for a good reason when they calibrate recording studios: all the instruments tend to sing in perfect harmony. They all have a clearly defined space within the mix, and if you move away from flat, you will remove certain aspects of the orchestra.
Leave it alone.

nicks90 said:
but beats audio is a pointless app. its just a preset equaliser that emphasises bass and high treble in a simple S curve through the range.
you can get this exact same effect with dsp or poweramp etc. dont waste your time.
in fact most record producers scream at your average Joe for messing with equalisers and would prefer everyone to keep it flat/neutral.
Many producers reference classical music for a good reason when they calibrate recording studios: all the instruments tend to sing in perfect harmony. They all have a clearly defined space within the mix, and if you move away from flat, you will remove certain aspects of the orchestra.
Leave it alone.
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It need not be a pointless app. You need to adjust the curve carefully that no distortion occurs. The DSP gave me noises in its default config. adjusted so many times, but couldn't make it clear. Anyways the beats is giving me perfect sound combination now. As you know beats is being promoted by/included in most HTC phones, its worthy testing.

Looks great! I'm about to try.

njarun said:
Guys check the Beats Audio MOD (Gingerbread) at XDA.
Beats Audio for CM9, AKOP, MIUI -> Here (not tested)
Was using DSP Manager, now I switched to beats audio. high performance improvement in my Atrix.
NOTE :- Remove the DSP Manager via Titanium (or similar app) to avoid conflict !!
All credits to the dev RockoDev (2.3) and ...Awesome... (4.0)
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I am on jokersax CM9 0.8.1 and I uninstalled DSP Manager via titanium backup as recommended prior to flashing the AwesomeBEATS.zip.
AwesomeBEATS constantly FCs while trying to access it through Apollo and well as Google Play Music. Music playback stopped working. Not working with this ROM.

I been included that as an alternative option to DSP manager in the aroma installer for my rom,. beats is great but its meant to be used with headphones and you can tell the difference when its enabled once it senses the jack input..
but this mod is old already, why post a repost?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/beats-audio-now-available-on-any-gingerbread-rom/

I think Beats is HORRIBLE. Obviously, there's no 'right' way for music to sound. The only thing that would be close to 'right' is if you were using exactly the same device, amp and monitors as were used to master the music in the first place (and even then there's probably variation in different copies of the same equipment) But personally, I like to hear the vocals in my music, rather than just a muddy bassy din and some ear piercing treble. Everybody has their own opinion on these things
Seems a shame to spoil the Atrix's good quality amplification with this tripe though Count yourself lucky you don't have a One X. It has the most terrible headphone output quality of any device I've owned in a long time, and that includes £10 MP3 players.

nicks90 said:
but beats audio is a pointless app. its just a preset equaliser that emphasises bass and high treble in a simple S curve through the range.
you can get this exact same effect with dsp or poweramp etc. dont waste your time.
in fact most record producers scream at your average Joe for messing with equalisers and would prefer everyone to keep it flat/neutral.
Many producers reference classical music for a good reason when they calibrate recording studios: all the instruments tend to sing in perfect harmony. They all have a clearly defined space within the mix, and if you move away from flat, you will remove certain aspects of the orchestra.
Leave it alone.
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He is right. I'm a mastering engineer, and I can tell you that eq is only for correcting mistakes; either in the recording/mixing process, or in the reproduction system. You use eq to return the signal to flat. However, unless you know what's wrong with the sound you are probably just making things even worse.
On the other hand, if you like how it sounds, don't let snobs like us dissuade you!
I only hope that you'd try getting used to even response speakers and/or headphones (if such a thing exists). You'll thank us when you realize all parts of the audio spectrum are equally important.
And thank you to the OP for this, even if it is controversial. =)
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=JKT= said:
He is right. I'm a mastering engineer, and I can tell you that eq is only for correcting mistakes; either in the recording/mixing process, or in the reproduction system. You use eq to return the signal to flat. However, unless you know what's wrong with the sound you are probably just making things even worse.
On the other hand, if you like how it sounds, don't let snobs like us dissuade you!
I only hope that you'd try getting used to even response speakers and/or headphones (if such a thing exists). You'll thank us when you realize all parts of the audio spectrum are equally important.
And thank you to the OP for this, even if it is controversial. =)
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I don't always click the thanks button, but when I do it's for informative posts like yours. :good:
Audio equalizers are for broadcast stations and recording studios, you're just undoing what they've already done by using your own EQ to mess with the frequencies. It's not a bad thing to do considering everyone has a different impression of what sounds "good". I tend to enjoy my music at slightly higher bass frequencies than flat when using a good subwoofer.
But yeah, equalizers are used to correct mistakes or unwanted audio frequencies which can be produced by recording equipment and to make certain frequencies more prominent (think, if you have a bunch of low pitch instruments and a high pitch singer, you can bring out those higher pitches with equalization).
Keeping your EQ flat means it stays at the recorded and already equalized levels the artists wanted it at.
But like I said, everyone has different opinions.
My only issue with this post, if I was being nitpicky, is that it's in the wrong forum section! I'd suggest having a mod move it Atrix 4G Themes & Apps section, unless we're defining any "Development" thread something you need to install via nandroid, in which case people may start packaging up their own apk bundles and posting them here as rom extensions.

aint that the truth... i agree 100% with the above statement... i feel the same way about that XLoud hack & Bravia Engine Hack... I've done tons of research and testing on my own phone using the libs and codes and strings and door knobs with dental floss and floor lint under my neighbor's car tire during the summer. lol, what I mean is that these hacks are floating around without any real concrete proof to their advantages or benefits whatsoever, yet I still see people add them into roms like it's that extra golden nugget that will extended life expectancy by 25+ years and people still request them because they swear how good the hack\tweak is that they would really wish to have it included in the rom.
The beats audio, if anything, i feel like just raises the mids & highs almost like a guesstimated pre-configured value meant to be like a one size fits all kind of thing.
Personally, I prefer having the option of doing my own corrections through the equalizer whether it's for the worse or better. In the end it's how it good it sounds to the listeners ear and different people hear sounds sometimes far different than others. So what someone might say is perfect, someone else could hear a brain aneurysm building from the noise pollution. But atleast with equalizers like the one with DSP for example, it's nice to be able to adjust and play with the frequencies instead the levels being preconfigured.
I would love to see the comparison of this with the "XLoud" hack to see which one is doing what it'said to be doing and which one is really just a "hack".

=JKT= said:
You use eq to return the signal to flat.
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Oh wow... I knew there's a reason it's called an "equalizer"!
Yeah, believe it or not, I always wondered why is it called that... Stupid me, never bothered to google though... But at least now I know.

Nice
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i got this app with custom rom, It doesnt do anything... I mean, anything.
I use note 2, i have Klipsch earphones, so they arent cheap and low quality earphones but Beats app does not do anything.
also I tried this app with Bose Quiet Comfort 15 and still nothing!
Bose 15's got much much better sound quality than beats but app is still useless.
IF i really need to chance EQ, Neutron and Power AMP does the job done.
You can really make your music better or worst with Neutron (Neutron EQ is much detailed) and PowerAmp but Beats does not do anything.
I wish custom roms do not include beats at all...

try it on mt25i

Sound quality

How to know which smartphone gives the best sound output experience one can ever have?
I have so many reviews about a lot of smartphones but I never read something about sound quality.
Do all smart phones share the same soundcard or sth
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anonymousss said:
How to know which smartphone gives the best sound output experience one can ever have?
I have so many reviews about a lot of smartphones but I never read something about sound quality.
Do all smart phones share the same soundcard or sth
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They don't. In my experience HTC made great ones, esp. the One X has got awesome sound even without DSP.

anonymousss said:
How to know which smartphone gives the best sound output experience one can ever have?
I have so many reviews about a lot of smartphones but I never read something about sound quality.
Do all smart phones share the same soundcard or sth
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http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
Denna finns i Note II (och SIII tro jag).
Rekommenderade lurar: http://www.ljudmakarn.se/view.asp?art_id=201&menu=1
Njut

Dmwitz said:
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
Denna finns i Note II (och SIII tro jag).
Rekommenderade lurar: http://www.ljudmakarn.se/view.asp?art_id=201&menu=1
Njut
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Forum rules: PLEASE write English. Most guys here don't get any Swedish (I guess). So pls write English.
Thank you

All HTC's suck. The One XL is alright, with mods
Best is
Nexus S
Galaxy S (original)
Galaxy S 3
Nexus 10
Anything with a tegra 3 is generally rubbish with sound, as they have a crappy DAC. Anything with a Wolfson DAC is good GENERALLY
But Snapdragons are getting better

markj338 said:
All HTC's suck. The One XL is alright, with mods
Best is
Nexus S
Galaxy S (original)
Galaxy S 3
Nexus 10
Anything with a tegra 3 is generally rubbish with sound, as they have a crappy DAC. Anything with a Wolfson DAC is good GENERALLY
But Snapdragons are getting better
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I really liked the sound of the One X. Galaxy devices have to have some mods to make it sound ok. Once I got my Nexus the sound was awful until I rooted it and flashed some mods. Now it's awesome. Same with every device I ever used or got my hands on. Without mods it's like trying to drive a car with the handbreak on.

WILLI120 said:
I really liked the sound of the One X. Galaxy devices have to have some mods to make it sound ok. Once I got my Nexus the sound was awful until I rooted it and flashed some mods. Now it's awesome. Same with every device I ever used or got my hands on. Without mods it's like trying to drive a car with the handbreak on.
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Yeah lol
I was going to try porting ALSA libs to our device (qualcomm sound enhancement project thing) but I have no idea where to start

Guys correct me if I am wrong :d
So you are saying that u can improve the sound that comes out of your earphones attached to our device??
And all that by flashing some mod ??
If so, the plz tell me which mod would u recommend
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markj338 said:
Yeah lol
I was going to try porting ALSA libs to our device (qualcomm sound enhancement project thing) but I have no idea where to start
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And I don't even get any of the words you just said hahah no, srsly, have no clue what to do to port the stuff. But would be awesome to see
anonymousss said:
Guys correct me if I am wrong :d
So you are saying that u can improve the sound that comes out of your earphones attached to our device??
And all that by flashing some mod ??
If so, the plz tell me which mod would u recommend
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Oh, of course you can! I would have died without any DSP-Manager is a MUST-have. The rest differs from which type of phone you have and so on. I use ACID sound engine. It's a mix of a few great sound mods and together with AwesomeBeats it just rocks But it doesn't work on any device. Great on my GNex but e.g. doesn't work on my dad's DHD. But try DSP-Manager, you won't regret it.

I am on cm 7 and I think I got DSP manager can u guide me or should I play around myself??
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I am on cm 7 and I think I got DSP manager can u guide me or should I play around myself??
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Never tried anything on CM7, but I can show you my setup. Bass is really, really high here. That's because my good earphones broke and I have to use the cheap, crappy Samsung ones, that came with my phone. Have to turn the bass up as hell to even hear it. But here you go:
Dynamic Range Compression: OFF
Bass Boost/Beats Boost: EXTREME (I would keep that, no matter which earphones you have - Of course just if you like bass - I do)
Loudness Compensation: Try out from STRONG to STRONGEST (dependend on earphones)
Virtual Room Effect: OFF
My soundcurve is now really disorted because of my cheap earphones but it was always the best for me to do sth in a "u" shape.It can be a very weird "u" like here but it was always the best for me. I'm not an expert though, just telling you my personal experiences.
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I'll try it and tell u what I think
But why is the bass So high ?because of crappy earphones?? O don't get it
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I want to get the latest DSP manager.
Can I get it on cm7 ??
and did u flash awesome beats mod??
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Latest DSP-Manager doesn't work on CM7. U need ICS or JB for that. AwesomeBeats is just working on AOSP ROMs. No Sense, no Touchwhiz. And yeah, I'm running AwesomeBeats in combination with ACID sound engine.
The bass is so high because I have very crappy earphones and I have to push the bass up that much to get sth of a normal sound. With better headphones I would do half of the shown or even less. Just try out what's best for you. Usually it's this "u" shape but it's dependent on which earphones you use and what their permormance is.

Earphone soundcurve has generally a "n" shape because they're optimised for middle frequencies.very high and very low ones are weaker. A good sound should be more or less flat so that you can hear what the studio wanted the music to sound like. Using a "u" shape equalizer compensate the n shape of the earphone. Then as said before some very cheap earphones lack of bass frequencies, particularly the small ones. However the tendency for today's headphones is more to have too much bass. You'll have to edit your curve depending on your headphones and also depending on your tastes and music style. You probably won't put so much bass to listen to jazz as to listen to dubstep.
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pec0ra said:
Earphone soundcurve has generally a "n" shape because they're optimised for middle frequencies.very high and very low ones are weaker. A good sound should be more or less flat so that you can hear what the studio wanted the music to sound like. Using a "u" shape equalizer compensate the n shape of the earphone. Then as said before some very cheap earphones lack of bass frequencies, particularly the small ones. However the tendency for today's headphones is more to have too much bass. You'll have to edit your curve depending on your headphones and also depending on your tastes and music style. You probably won't put so much bass to listen to jazz as to listen to dubstep.
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It's just really dependend on your earphones. If I had set an "n" shape for my old good earphones it would have sounded very weird. I guess every pair handles the sound in an other way so you really gotta try what's the best.

WILLI120 said:
It's just really dependend on your earphones. If I had set an "n" shape for my old good earphones it would have sounded very weird. I guess every pair handles the sound in an other way so you really gotta try what's the best.
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The n shape I talked about is the one of the sound coming out of the earphones. You wanna compensate it with an equalizer in u. But again it depend a lot on your phones
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pec0ra said:
The n shape I talked about is the one of the sound coming out of the earphones. You wanna compensate it with an equalizer in u. But again it depend a lot on your phones
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Ah, now I get it You're right. That should be the reason why a u shape is usually the best. On my 2nd broken pair (Sony) I have to push the mids a bit more than the highs. So again, dependend on earphones. On my beats I had to push the highs a lot and the bass just a little. And with my crappy Samsung pair it's like in my post before. Sound is still not that good, though. Just barely can hear any traces of a bass guitar:/

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Thank you
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Sorry. I blame it on all the forum jumping I do. I didn't even realise lol

Dmwitz said:
Sorry. I blame it on all the forum jumping I do. I didn't even realise lol
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Sh*t happens;D No big deal
So, I got some sweet new earphones (new urBeats), so I just wanna share my new setup:
Dynamic Range Compression: Slight
Bass/Beats Boost: Moderate
Loudness Compensation: Strong
Still experimental but I'm getting close to it...