I've read all over the place about not being possible to unlock the bootloader when it says no. That's fine. I assume I can still root it, using a specialist tool. I'll look into that bit spearately.
My question is, if I can root it, delete everything I don't want and make it as stock as possile without installing a custom rom, then just block Google Play Services ever using the internet with a firewall, will it work and give me the privacy I want from Android? I don't want to go back to Apple, or buy another device, so any help much appreciated.
If it's now possible to bypass the unlock bootloader allowed: no, even better!
TIA.
No way so no.
Unless you find a hack.
When you decide to buy a phone it is good to read about it beforehand , xda forum can give you all the details you want , but the most important thing is not to buy a phone as soon as it appears, it is good to spend some time so you can collect all the data about it
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I was reviewing how both Android pay and Samsung pay verify the device. It looks like having an unlocked bootloader is going to cause issues with either of these going forward unless someone finds out how to hide the check.
I have also been messing around with Android M and it looks like the verify for most apps with be to check for both root and bootloader lock.
So here is my question is it possible to install a custom ROM and relock the bootloader? Thought I might as well start a thread about it., and see if anyone has any ideas.
It looks like it is possible on a Nexus device, but not sure on the GN4. http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...4-7-bootloader-after-flashing-a-non-stock-rom
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As for Android Pay they have mentioned only root will be checked and if present it will fail verification. In this case all you need to do is re-flash the factory stock rom and you will be able to use the application.For Samsung Pay the problem is much more complex as the application checks the integrity of Knox so if you already tripped it then you will be unable to use it.
Hi, long time lurker here. I want to start by saying how great and informative this site is. Anyway, my nexus 6 came in from the mail like 5 hours ago, did all the updates from 5.0 to 6.0 and it's now running Marshmallow mra58n. Question is should I root it immediately and if so, are there any guides I can follow? Much love to you all, I'm not exactly pro at this kind of things but I can follow instructions since I have competently rooted my past phones which were an HTC M7, M8 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet.
Thank you.
Edit: Phone is also unlocked, I currently have no SIM card
start here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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razortaz18 said:
At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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I've been looking at the Nexus Root Toolkit since I am kind of confused on how to proceed with anything at all, is that ill advised since I've read that there are problems with the USB cable disconnecting during reboot?
Also, thank you for the reply.
I used the NRT without issue. Just follow the guide step by step.
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and, dont touch the usb cable while the phone is processing your commands!
j/k, never even heard of the USB cable "problem"
I just used the toolkit today to unlock and root my N6.
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I rooted last night initially using manual method described in the first link provided, however after some driver issues ultimately used the 2.1.0 rootkit to uninstall and reinstall all drivers. That too alone saved me tons of time and either method is simple if you can follow instructions.
Totally recommend rooting and then experimenting with custom roms, its like getting a new phone everyone you install a new rom.
Have fun!
Kristine,
In answer specifically to your question "Should I...?" my answer is "No". It really depends on what you think you'll get from it - why do you want to do it? What specific benefits do you want?
The reason that I say "no" is that I've been rooted on all my several phones for years, and I've decided that for me the annoyance of having to manually flash ROMs outweighs the benefits - particularly now that Google are releasing frequent security updates. The moment you root your device the OTA (over the air) updates no longer work.
For me the major reason for rooting was to have a firewall. The other things (wakelock detection, double tap to wake, auto-hibernation...) were great but not showstoppers. Now that there is a non-root firewall (Netguard) I'm happy to leave my phone unrooted. I haven't had an OTA to apply yet, so if I have any problems then I might change my mind, but my advice would be to think hard about why you want root before you buy yourself into a world of tinkering...
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At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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Dammit, are you kidding me? I just downloaded and setup everything, figured I'd do all everything else tomorrow... Oh, well I can do it again I suppose.
Kristine-N said:
Question is should I root it immediately....
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Because I don't want a white interface, rooting is necessary. Google forces to many things, like forced encryption, useless apps and a white interface (battery drain). When rooting was impossible I would not have bought a Nexus.
Short answer: No!
Long answer: Well, it's sill no, but you can or even should do a couple of things.
First if all, allow OEM Unlocking in development settings. There are gazillion how-tos to switch developer mode on, and tick that switch. Google has borked OTAs already, and if your phone doesn't boot, and the switch is off, then you're boned, you can send it for repair. But if you can unlock you bootloader, then you can flash a custom recovery and make your phone working again.
Second, if you do plan to root your phone in the near future, you should unlock the bootloader now, while it's still new, because it will erase everything (IMHO this would be sufficient as a security measure, the Enable OEM Unlocking is overkill).
As for the main question if you don't have any specific ideas what you want the root for, then don't root your phone. It's a clear and present security risk, and you're just one too many "Allow" taps from letting someone acquire your passwords, clone your IMEI, and download your personal stuff. My motto is, if you don't know what exactly root is, what it does, then you don't know how to prevent exploits that need it to run.
Also if you modify your phone in any way, and that includes rooting, you won't receive the monthly OTAs, and will have to flash it manually.
And finally, don't use toolkits on a Nexus. Spend another hour reading about the matter and you will find out typing adb and fastboot commands is a easy as clicking buttons on toolkits. There is nothing extra in them, they just download the images to flash, and "type" these commands for you.
Unlock bootloader and don't root it for now. After some time, if you feel like you're missing some features that you can obtain only with root, then go ahead. But for now I would strongly recommend to stay stock and see how it goes...
I downloaded the wugfresh tool to try and unlock and root my Nexus 6 used on Verizon but obtained from the Google Play store.
Wugfresh recognizes the device. I have enabled debugging and developer options and have the phone properly set up with the original cable.
When I open wugfresh and after I download the appropriate files, I click on unlock phone and a pop up just says ENCRYPTED.
I tried googling as well as searching this forum and I cannot figure out how to remove encryption without the phone already having been unlocked and reverted back to Lollipop.
Can someone give me a hand? I'm unsure of what to do next.
Thanks!
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I downloaded the wugfresh tool to try and unlock and root my Nexus 6 used on Verizon but obtained from the Google Play store.
Wugfresh recognizes the device. I have enabled debugging and developer options and have the phone properly set up with the original cable.
When I open wugfresh and after I download the appropriate files, I click on unlock phone and a pop up just says ENCRYPTED.
I tried googling as well as searching this forum and I cannot figure out how to remove encryption without the phone already having been unlocked and reverted back to Lollipop.
Can someone give me a hand? I'm unsure of what to do next.
Thanks!
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All the info you need is in the stickies. Many will tell you not to bother with tool kits. This is due to that you wont know how to fix any issues that may come up. It is always best to learn what you are doing. All you re.ally have to do to un-encrypt is to completely wipe the device. Then you need a kernel that doesnt force the encryption
I checked this sticky - http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-frequently-questions-t3106029
Q17: What is encryption and should I disable it?
"First off, to best answer the "what is" question, look HERE. Now, whether or not to disable it, is entirely up to you. For the most part, the benefits are dependent on your usage. HERE is a thread discussing encryption on 5.1 so please check it out."
I clicked that link and ended up at http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...-fed-patcher-v8-forceencrypt-disable-t3234422
It appears that this would work if my phone was unlocked, but it isn't. I don't yet understand how I can flash anything if my phone is still locked and I don't know how to unlock the phone if the device is still encrypted.
I'm still stuck!
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I checked this sticky - http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-frequently-questions-t3106029
Q17: What is encryption and should I disable it?
"First off, to best answer the "what is" question, look HERE. Now, whether or not to disable it, is entirely up to you. For the most part, the benefits are dependent on your usage. HERE is a thread discussing encryption on 5.1 so please check it out."
I clicked that link and ended up at http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...-fed-patcher-v8-forceencrypt-disable-t3234422
It appears that this would work if my phone was unlocked, but it isn't. I don't yet understand how I can flash anything if my phone is still locked and I don't know how to unlock the phone if the device is still encrypted.
I'm still stuck!
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Read the stickies on unlocking your phone manually first.
Be careful that some of the stickies and or threads on rooting ect are old. Before you blindly follow instructions check the date and the version its meant for. If its more then a month or so old, or states a different version of android proceed with causion. Also, make sure you read the last maybe 4 or so pages of the threads if not more, as if the instructions ARE out of date you will see people note it there, and either suggest what changes are necessary or point to newer guides.
You really will help yourself out A LOT to learn the little bit it takes to do it manually. Multiple threads every day from people who have one little thing go wrong with the toolkits, that would be REALLY easy to fix if they knew what they were doing.
First read up on how to unlock, its really really easy... Once your unlocked STAY UNLOCKED, and make sure you keep "allow OEM unlock" on... Do those two things and you can almost definitely fix your phone no matter what you mess up.
Hi guys, I'm pretty new to xda community, so I don't know if my issue is solved before or not but I can't find any.
As u know, when u use an app to lock the phone screen, u can't unlock it the next time with fingerprint. Is there any way, root or no root required to make it possible? And if it's root required, could u plz tell me how to do it or give me any tutorial on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Well firstly, if no else has said so, welcome to XDA ?
Firstly, what your looking to do is definitely possible. But as you likely suspected, you will require root for it to work properly.
Once you have root access, you will just need to make sure that the app your using to lock the phone has the option to utilise root access to work.
Nova launcher for example allows you to choose root as the method of locking the phone.
As for actually rooting your phone, you will first need to unlock your phones bootloader, which although there is an official method for now, still comes with serious and permanent consequences.
I believe there are guides on how to unlock the bootloader and how to subsequently gain root and/or install TWRP, here in the Nokia 8 forums which I am sure you will be able to find yourself (rather then me redundantly providing you instructions here)
However, as a friendly warning to you (and any other users new to the forums who read this later) due to the consequences and implications of unlocking the bootloader (i.e. impact on device security, receiving OTA updates etc.) you should only proceed if:
- You 100% understand the steps involved (rather than blindly following them)
- You truely understand what they are actually doing to your device
- You are 100% aware the consequences
- You know how to, and are prepared to, recover your device if something does go wrong.
In the end, most of the issues I've seen on XDA over the years are the result of people not truely understanding what they were doing. You can never know too much.
Hopefully this answered your question?
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Well firstly, if no else has said so, welcome to XDA ?
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Hopefully this answered your question?
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Oh god, you are so nice. I will absolutely try to follow the steps u mentioned above. Thanks so much.
Hello to everyone reading this, wish you all the best in the New Year.. Now let's get to the problem I have.. I'm using Brave as my browser and I am sure most of you are familiar with Brave Ads, well they don't work on my phone.. While duckduckgo-ing through I stumbled on possible reason why it may not work, the said reason was unlocked bootloader.. It was suggested to download SafetyNet test and check if everything is as it should be. To my surprise my bootloader was unlocked (I double checked via developer options since Xiaomi offers information on that there as well) but the issue is I never flashed any ROM or Firmware nor anything similar, it's stock as it can be from the store.. Now that I elaborated the best I can (Since my native language is not English) I need to ask 3 questions as stupid as the may sound.
1. Is it possible that bootloader unlocked by itself or some shady app?
2. Does that lock icon below front camera unlocks bootloader by tapping when you turn on the phone? (Since it was locked before and now its not)
3. Is there a way I can lock it without using PC and adb tools?
Thank you for your answers and time, much appreciated!
PS: I would add pictures if needed but since I didn't tamper with the phone nor change anything in developer options I doubt it's of any help.
To lock the bootloader in mi you need to flash the stock rom and if you only need to pass the safety net checks install magisk canary and it's not actually possible to unlock an mi device without the authentication of Xiaomi so it can not unlock by itself as far as I know. Are you totally sure you or someone in your family or friends didn't unlock the bootloader because if not this may be a dangerous exploit used by a shady app and should be reported to Xiaomi now.
Not a single soul have a access to my phone, and if they did they sure as hell don't know hot to flash custom roms or unlock bootloader.. So it might be some shady app.. But how would I check and see if that is true?
PS: And about magisk canary I don't see it in google play store, but I suppose that is apk for rooted phones? The issue is my phone is not rooted if that is the case.